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7th Feb '16 10:54:36 AM EDP
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* ''Manga/CodenameSailorV'' (the series from which ''Franchise/SailorMoon'' was spun off) ends with Sailor Venus and the ''BigBad'' both having one: for Venus is between love or continuing to fight as a Sailor Senshi, and for Danburite/[[spoiler:Ace]] is to stand down and join Sailor Venus [[spoiler:the woman he loves]], or fighting (and dying) to [[spoiler:make her understand [[MarriedToTheJob she'd always choose her duty over love]] before she can be destroyed by the doubt]]. [[TearJerker They both choose to fight]].
30th Dec '15 1:01:48 PM Anddrix
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* During the final confrontation between Franchise/{{Superman}} and SelfDemonstrating/LexLuthor prior to ''ComicBook/TheNew52'', Luthor has gained god-like power and has actually brought total peace to the cosmos. However, the Lois Lane android with him warns him that he can't do negative things like, say, ''kill Superman''. Luthor actually agonizes over before finally deciding that killing Superman is the lesser evil. All the while SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker is laughing back in Arkham, realizing that Luthor had all of that power and he ''threw it all away''.
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* During the final confrontation between Franchise/{{Superman}} and SelfDemonstrating/LexLuthor ComicBook/LexLuthor prior to ''ComicBook/TheNew52'', Luthor has gained god-like power and has actually brought total peace to the cosmos. However, the Lois Lane android with him warns him that he can't do negative things like, say, ''kill Superman''. Luthor actually agonizes over before finally deciding that killing Superman is the lesser evil. All the while SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker is laughing back in Arkham, realizing that Luthor had all of that power and he ''threw it all away''.
8th Dec '15 4:25:06 AM darksoul4242
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*** Well Father would have still been unstoppable had his EvilPlan not worked then due to [[spoiler:Hohenhiem's trap not being able to work unless Father succeeded even if it would only be temporary.]] Plus Al returning, period, would have given Father what he wanted as he only needed a soul who was capable of returning from the gate. It really didn't matter which form he returned in. Plus his choice did [[spoiler:save Ed's life because it enabled him to make a HeroicSacrifice later.]]
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*** Well Father would have still been unstoppable had his EvilPlan not worked then due to [[spoiler:Hohenhiem's [[spoiler:Hohenheim's trap not being able to work unless Father succeeded even if it would only be temporary.]] Plus Al returning, period, would have given Father what he wanted as he only needed a soul who was capable of returning from the gate. It really didn't matter which form he returned in. Plus his choice did [[spoiler:save Ed's life because it enabled him to make a HeroicSacrifice later.]]
26th Nov '15 5:50:55 PM nombretomado
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* A SandmanMysteryTheatre flashback story in {{Comicbook/Starman}} reveals a case where The Gambler had a stolen statue in one hand and a knife to Wesley Dodds' throat in the other. Ted Knight doesn't hesitate to blast the Gambler and destroy the statue. It turns out he knew it was a fake, but he would have fired anyway, because an inanimate object isn't worth a human life. Ted and Wesley weren't even good friends.
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* A SandmanMysteryTheatre ComicBook/SandmanMysteryTheatre flashback story in {{Comicbook/Starman}} reveals a case where The Gambler had a stolen statue in one hand and a knife to Wesley Dodds' throat in the other. Ted Knight doesn't hesitate to blast the Gambler and destroy the statue. It turns out he knew it was a fake, but he would have fired anyway, because an inanimate object isn't worth a human life. Ted and Wesley weren't even good friends.
25th Nov '15 12:45:23 AM kazokuhouou
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* In ''Film/TheManFromUNCLE'' both Napoleon and Illya are forced into this position by the end of the movie: retrieve the tape containing sensitive information at all costs, including, if necessary, killing the other to do so. Yet to do so would mean killing a man they've come to respect. [[spoiler: After Napoleon gives Illya his father's watch (which had been stolen from a mook, and Napoleon found during the raid), they TakeAThirdOption and burn the tape altogether. Immediately after Mr. Waverly comes to them with a job offer to join U.N.C.L.E.]]
24th Nov '15 3:18:18 AM jormis29
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* In the finale of ''VideoGame/SplinterCell: Double Agent'', Sam (having infiltrated a terrorist group as one of their members) is given the choice of either shooting his NSA boss (a series regular, who's been captured by the terrorists) to maintain his cover, or shooting the terrorist standing guard over them (which instantly blows his cover and causes everyone in the base to come and try to kill him).
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* In the finale of ''VideoGame/SplinterCell: Double Agent'', ''VideoGame/SplinterCellDoubleAgent'', Sam (having infiltrated a terrorist group as one of their members) is given the choice of either shooting his NSA boss (a series regular, who's been captured by the terrorists) to maintain his cover, or shooting the terrorist standing guard over them (which instantly blows his cover and causes everyone in the base to come and try to kill him).
24th Nov '15 12:52:44 AM LadyNorbert
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->''"Destiny has cheated me,\\ By forcing me to decide upon,\\ The woman that I idolize,\\
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->''"Destiny has cheated me,\\ me\\ By forcing me to decide upon,\\ upon\\ The woman that I idolize,\\idolize\\

Without these hands, I can't complete,\\
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Without these hands, I can't complete,\\complete\\

* A Burger King's viral marketing scheme tried to be a parody of this concept. With the "Whopper Sacrifice" facebook app, you can get a free Whopper. The real cost? You must un-friend 10 people. As most could probably expect though, all this resulted in were thousands more free whoppers given away than expected as just about everyone has some pruning they could do on their friends list, and, for that matter, had nothing stopping them from refriending once they got the friggin' burger.
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* A Burger King's viral marketing scheme tried to be a parody of this concept. With the "Whopper Sacrifice" facebook Facebook app, you can get a free Whopper. The real cost? You must un-friend 10 people. As most could probably expect though, all this resulted in were thousands more free whoppers Whoppers given away than expected as expected, since just about everyone has some pruning they could do on their friends list, list - and, for that matter, had nothing stopping them from refriending once they got the friggin' burger.

* In ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'', during a chaotic fight, May Chang has to choose between going for the Philosopher's Stone, which she needs to complete her quest to save her clan, or stop [[spoiler:Hawkeye]] from bleeding to death, someone who she barely knows. She chooses the latter, only to see that [[spoiler:Wrath]] has seized the stone.
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* In ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'', during a chaotic fight, May Chang has to choose between going for the Philosopher's Stone, which she needs to complete her quest to save her clan, or stop [[spoiler:Hawkeye]] from bleeding to death, someone who whom she barely knows. She chooses the latter, only to see that [[spoiler:Wrath]] has seized the stone.

*** Well Father would have still been unstoppable had his EvilPlan not worked then due to [[spoiler:Hohenhiem's trap not being able to work unless Father succeeded even if it would only be temporary.]] Plus Al returning period would have given Father what he wanted as he only needed a soul who was capable of returning from the gate. It really didn't matter which form he returned in. Plus his choice did [[spoiler:save Ed's life because it enabled him to make a HeroicSacrifice later.]]
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*** Well Father would have still been unstoppable had his EvilPlan not worked then due to [[spoiler:Hohenhiem's trap not being able to work unless Father succeeded even if it would only be temporary.]] Plus Al returning period returning, period, would have given Father what he wanted as he only needed a soul who was capable of returning from the gate. It really didn't matter which form he returned in. Plus his choice did [[spoiler:save Ed's life because it enabled him to make a HeroicSacrifice later.]]

** The story before that had a childhood friend of Tenchi's coming to visit, royally pissing of Ayeka and Ryoko due to her clingyness and a childhood promise. However, Washu discovers why the friend was there and agrees to help her with a plan. They end up knocking out Ryoko and Ayeka and putting through a theoretical situation - for Ryoko, she gets a chance to date Tenchi with the agreement to not use her powers or lose that chance forever. However, an ambulance carrying an expecting couple she aided gets stuck in traffic and only she can make a difference. For Ayeka, she's asked to return to Jurai with Sasami. However, she panics and tries to stay, with Emperor Azusa calling her and telling her that if she stays, she loses the crown. Both end up going with their hearts rather than what others tell them. [[spoiler:Turns out the childhood friend set it up because she was ''dying'' and she wanted to make sure Tenchi would be alright with them. They return the favor by having Tsunami resurrect her moments after her death.]]
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** The story before that had a childhood friend of Tenchi's coming to visit, royally pissing of Ayeka and Ryoko due to her clingyness clinginess and a childhood promise. However, Washu discovers why the friend was there and agrees to help her with a plan. They end up knocking out Ryoko and Ayeka and putting through a theoretical situation - for Ryoko, she gets a chance to date Tenchi with the agreement to not use her powers or lose that chance forever. However, an ambulance carrying an expecting couple she aided gets stuck in traffic and only she can make a difference. For Ayeka, she's asked to return to Jurai with Sasami. However, she panics and tries to stay, with Emperor Azusa calling her and telling her that if she stays, she loses the crown. Both end up going with their hearts rather than what others tell them. [[spoiler:Turns out the childhood friend set it up because she was ''dying'' and she wanted to make sure Tenchi would be alright with them. They return the favor by having Tsunami resurrect her moments after her death.]]
24th Nov '15 12:49:16 AM LadyNorbert
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[[folder:Music]] * In the ConceptAlbum ''TheLambLiesDownOnBroadway'' by Music/{{Genesis}}, the protagonist [[UnreliableNarrator Rael]] is ultimately confronted with a situation where he can either escape from the mad dream he has been caught in and go back to his normal life in New York City, or risk dangerous rapids to rescue his drowning brother John (who has repeatedly refused to help Rael in his times of need). [[spoiler: He decides to save John from the rapids, but during the confusion and peril of the struggle, the mad dream takes another turn and Rael finds that he and John are actually the same person]]. See also: [[spoiler: TomatoInTheMirror]], [[spoiler: TwistEnding]], and [[spoiler: ItWasHisSled]]. [[/folder]] [[folder:Professional Wrestling]] * No one in Wrestling/{{GLOW}} was capable of defeating Mountain Fiji, especially not one on one, but many were more than capable of defeating her little sister. So whenever Mt Fiji came close to winning a championship in GLOW, one of her enemies would run out an attack Little Fiji or come out to taunt Mt Fiji with a kidnapped Little Fiji, forcing big sister to choose between continuing to fight the champion of forfeiting the match to save Little Fiji. Mt. Fiji always opted to save her sister. * Valkyrie revealed itself by jumping and mercilessly beating Wrestling/AmazingKong, laying out members of the SHINE roster who, somewhat unexpectedly, tried to stop them. This [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney and]] an {{army of lawyers}} let Valkyrie ride a wave of intimidation to the crowning of their leader, Rain, as SHINE's first champion. But Kong didn't go away, fought off Valkyrie when they attacked her again and then joined Wrestling/{{Daffney| Unger}}'s squad [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections for a title match]]. So Valkyrie switched targets and went after one of Kong's new teammates, Solo Darling. Amazing Kong opted to save Solo, Rain retained by count out.[[/folder]]

* In ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyBlackOpsII'', a [[TheMole mole]] on the heroes side is forced with this when the BigBad of the game manages to crash a helicopter and capture a fellow soldier (Your commanding officer in fact) who managed to survive, then giving the mole a gun and forcing him to kill the soldier. You're given the opinion of killing the solider [[spoiler: (which is a requirement to get the GoldenEnding as said mole has to survive for a later part in the story)]] who even ''encourages'' you to do it to maintain your cover. Or try to kill the Big Bad right there [[spoiler: which predictably fails and results in the mole getting killed.]]
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* In ''VideoGame/CallOfDutyBlackOpsII'', a [[TheMole mole]] on the heroes side is forced with this when the BigBad of the game manages to crash a helicopter and capture a fellow soldier (Your commanding officer in fact) who managed to survive, then giving the mole a gun and forcing him to kill the soldier. You're given the opinion of killing the solider soldier [[spoiler: (which is a requirement to get the GoldenEnding GoldenEnding, as said mole has to survive for a later part in the story)]] who even ''encourages'' you to do it to maintain your cover. Or try to kill the Big Bad right there [[spoiler: which predictably fails and results in the mole getting killed.]]

[[folder:Music]] * In the ConceptAlbum ''TheLambLiesDownOnBroadway'' by Music/{{Genesis}}, the protagonist [[UnreliableNarrator Rael]] is ultimately confronted with a situation where he can either escape from the mad dream he has been caught in and go back to his normal life in New York City, or risk dangerous rapids to rescue his drowning brother John (who has repeatedly refused to help Rael in his times of need). [[spoiler: He decides to save John from the rapids, but during the confusion and peril of the struggle, the mad dream takes another turn and Rael finds that he and John are actually the same person]]. See also: [[spoiler: TomatoInTheMirror]], [[spoiler: TwistEnding]], and [[spoiler: ItWasHisSled]].
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[[folder:Music]] [[folder:Web Animation]] * Happens several times in ''WebAnimation/HomestarRunner''. In the ConceptAlbum ''TheLambLiesDownOnBroadway'' by Music/{{Genesis}}, original children's book that started the protagonist [[UnreliableNarrator Rael]] is ultimately confronted concept, Homestar gives up the chance to win the Strongest Man In The World Contest in order to expose Strong Bad's cheating. As a result, Pom Pom shares the victory trophy with a situation where he can either escape from the mad dream he has been caught in and go back to his normal life in New York City, or risk dangerous rapids to rescue his drowning brother John (who has repeatedly refused to help Rael in his times of need). [[spoiler: He decides to save John from the rapids, but during the confusion and peril of the struggle, the mad dream takes another turn and Rael finds that he and John are actually the him. The same person]]. See also: [[spoiler: TomatoInTheMirror]], [[spoiler: TwistEnding]], thing happens in the remade cartoon version of it, only Pom Pom refuses to share the trophy. And in "A Jumping Jack Contest", it's Pom Pom who exposes the cheating, and [[spoiler: ItWasHisSled]].Homestar who ends up winning and sharing the trophy with Pom Pom.

[[folder:Professional Wrestling]] * No one in Wrestling/{{GLOW}} was capable of defeating Mountain Fiji, especially not one on one, but many were more than capable of defeating her little sister. So whenever Mt Fiji came close to winning a championship in GLOW, one of her enemies would run out an attack Little Fiji or come out to taunt Mt Fiji with a kidnapped Little Fiji, forcing big sister to choose between continuing to fight the champion of forfeiting the match to save Little Fiji. Mt. Fiji always opted to save her sister. * Valkyrie revealed itself by jumping and mercilessly beating Wrestling/AmazingKong, laying out members of the SHINE roster who, somewhat unexpectedly, tried to stop them. This [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney and]] an {{army of lawyers}} let Valkyrie ride a wave of intimidation to the crowning of their leader, Rain, as SHINE's first champion. But Kong didn't go away, fought off Valkyrie when they attacked her again and then joined Wrestling/{{Daffney| Unger}}'s squad [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections for a title match]]. So Valkyrie switched targets and went after one of Kong's new teammates, Solo Darling. Amazing Kong opted to save Solo, Rain retained by count out.[[/folder]] [[folder:Web Animation]] * Happens several times in ''WebAnimation/HomestarRunner''. In the original children's book that started the concept, Homestar gives up the chance to win the Strongest Man In The World Contest in order to expose Strong Bad's cheating. As a result, Pom Pom shares the victory trophy with him. The same thing happens in the remade cartoon version of it, only Pom Pom refuses to share the trophy. And in "A Jumping Jack Contest", it's Pom Pom who exposes the cheating, and Homestar who ends up winning and sharing the trophy with Pom Pom. [[/folder]]
18th Nov '15 6:52:55 PM CaptainSkywalker
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* In the climax of the ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' , Darth Vader must make the choice between obeying his master Palpatine, or saving his son Luke. In the end he chooses to save his son by throwing Palpatine down the reactor shaft at the cost of his own life.
5th Nov '15 4:06:43 PM nombretomado
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* In the ''RanmaOneHalf'' movie ''Nihao My Concubine'', Ranma and Akane find themselves falling through open air toward a magical pool whose water will turn anyone permanently into a man, even overriding the GenderBender [[TransformationRay Jusenkyo curse]] Ranma had spent the whole series trying to cure. In an unusually elegant variation of the Friend or Idol Decision, Ranma realizes that if he dives right in, Akane will fall into the water as well, and will become afflicted with the very curse he seeks to cure in himself! And of course, since they are the OfficialCouple, and StatusQuoIsGod, it naturally follows that FailureIsTheOnlyOption, and so Ranma must use his tremendous chi powers to destroy the fountain before they touch the water, so that Akane will be spared.
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* In the ''RanmaOneHalf'' ''Anime/RanmaOneHalf'' movie ''Nihao My Concubine'', Ranma and Akane find themselves falling through open air toward a magical pool whose water will turn anyone permanently into a man, even overriding the GenderBender [[TransformationRay Jusenkyo curse]] Ranma had spent the whole series trying to cure. In an unusually elegant variation of the Friend or Idol Decision, Ranma realizes that if he dives right in, Akane will fall into the water as well, and will become afflicted with the very curse he seeks to cure in himself! And of course, since they are the OfficialCouple, and StatusQuoIsGod, it naturally follows that FailureIsTheOnlyOption, and so Ranma must use his tremendous chi powers to destroy the fountain before they touch the water, so that Akane will be spared.
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