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25th Jul '16 12:56:28 AM EternityofSpirits
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* Due to having LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters, many of whom with their own plotlines, this tends to happens during the larger story arcs in ''Manga/TokyoGhoul''. The Rushima Arc in particular stands out, with plotlines often being halted for several chapters at a time. This leads to [[spoiler: Kaneki and Arima's rematch]] lasting ten chapters despite not the fight not being terribly long in general.
19th Jul '16 6:38:03 PM rjd1922
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* There's a reason ''WesternAnimation/TitanicTheLegendGoesOn'' was such a flop. Some plotlines don't even converge until the [[WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue epilogue]], and even then it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

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* There's a This is one reason ''WesternAnimation/TitanicTheLegendGoesOn'' was such a flop. Some plotlines don't even converge until the [[WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue epilogue]], and even then it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.



* The first Transformers movie has this problem. Besides the Autobots vs Decepticons, there is the military plot, the Sam and Mikela teenage romance plot, the Sector 7 conspiracy plot, and the mostly pointless the HollywoodHacking plot with the [[MsFanservice hot]] NSA agent.

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* The first Transformers ''Film/{{Transformers}}'' movie has this problem.this. Besides the Autobots vs Decepticons, there is the military plot, the Sam and Mikela teenage romance plot, the Sector 7 conspiracy plot, and the mostly pointless the HollywoodHacking plot with the [[MsFanservice hot]] NSA agent.
30th Jun '16 7:39:15 PM nombretomado
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* ''{{Bionicle}}'', so so much. As of this edit, there's Marendar trying to kill the biomechanicals (which is about 90% of the cast), Kopaka and Pohatu being stuck in orbit with a character who had been presumed dead for years, and also investigating a murder mystery, Lewa being captured by tribesmen, the golden being becoming a godlike entity, the Toa Mahri being his slaves, the Great Beings looking for a way to stop a disaster, a Gelu and three Toa looking for said Great Beings but being caught by a savage tribe, and another mystery regarding a Great Being masquerading as well-known character. These are just the new unfinished plot-lines. Older ones include the Mask of Time being stolen by Voporak, Vezon and a rag-tag bunch of ultra-powerful characters meeting a Great Being, and that's not even counting all the minor but still ongoing stories.

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* ''{{Bionicle}}'', ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'', so so much. As of this edit, there's Marendar trying to kill the biomechanicals (which is about 90% of the cast), Kopaka and Pohatu being stuck in orbit with a character who had been presumed dead for years, and also investigating a murder mystery, Lewa being captured by tribesmen, the golden being becoming a godlike entity, the Toa Mahri being his slaves, the Great Beings looking for a way to stop a disaster, a Gelu and three Toa looking for said Great Beings but being caught by a savage tribe, and another mystery regarding a Great Being masquerading as well-known character. These are just the new unfinished plot-lines. Older ones include the Mask of Time being stolen by Voporak, Vezon and a rag-tag bunch of ultra-powerful characters meeting a Great Being, and that's not even counting all the minor but still ongoing stories.
19th Jun '16 1:57:51 PM nombretomado
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* ''AgainstTheDay'' by ThomasPynchon manages four genres, all waiting. [[spoiler:They are boy's adventure, western revenge, geek eccentric science and spy adventuress.]] In different parts of the book, one will be become more dominant.

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* ''AgainstTheDay'' ''Literature/AgainstTheDay'' by ThomasPynchon Creator/ThomasPynchon manages four genres, all waiting. [[spoiler:They are boy's adventure, western revenge, geek eccentric science and spy adventuress.]] In different parts of the book, one will be become more dominant.
11th Jun '16 1:21:48 PM Doug86
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* Part of the problem of the first year of ''Amazing {{Spider-Man}}'''s ComicBook/BrandNewDay arc. Storylines such as the identity of Menace, the mystery of Harry's return, the election of a New Mayor of New York, and the Spider-Tracer murders were all milked for all they were worth for an entire year, and mostly resolved within a single storyline. Creators have gone on record saying they intended to touch base on the plot threads a lot more in the year prior, but ran out of time. This despite having at least three times the length as any other series to make such plans. And that didn't stop plotlines in the next two years from being milked for all they were worth and not resolved until the "big finale" of Brand New Day - Origin of the Species.

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* Part of the problem of the first year of ''Amazing {{Spider-Man}}'''s ComicBook/SpiderMan'''s ComicBook/BrandNewDay arc. Storylines such as the identity of Menace, the mystery of Harry's return, the election of a New Mayor of New York, and the Spider-Tracer murders were all milked for all they were worth for an entire year, and mostly resolved within a single storyline. Creators have gone on record saying they intended to touch base on the plot threads a lot more in the year prior, but ran out of time. This despite having at least three times the length as any other series to make such plans. And that didn't stop plotlines in the next two years from being milked for all they were worth and not resolved until the "big finale" of Brand New Day - Origin of the Species.



* A common criticism of ''ComicBook/{{X-Men}}: The Hidden Years'' by Creator/JohnByrne. As [[Podcast/HouseToAstonish Paul O'Brien]] [[http://web.archive.org/web/20081016055109/http://www.thexaxis.com/indexes/hidden/10.htm put it]]:

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* A common criticism of ''ComicBook/{{X-Men}}: ''ComicBook/XMen: The Hidden Years'' by Creator/JohnByrne. As [[Podcast/HouseToAstonish Paul O'Brien]] [[http://web.archive.org/web/20081016055109/http://www.thexaxis.com/indexes/hidden/10.htm put it]]:
14th May '16 2:13:53 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Creator/HarryTurtledove's ''{{Worldwar}}'', ''{{Timeline-191}}'' and ''Literature/DarknessSeries''. LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters mean we can go 100 pages between appearances of a given character. Sometimes, it works.

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* Creator/HarryTurtledove's ''{{Worldwar}}'', ''{{Timeline-191}}'' ''Literature/{{Worldwar}}'', ''Literature/Timeline191'' and ''Literature/DarknessSeries''. LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters mean we can go 100 pages between appearances of a given character. Sometimes, it works.
11th May '16 7:17:22 AM Eievie
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And then there's Four Lines, All Waiting: When a show - typically a SoapOpera, although any {{Soaperiz|ing}}ed show will do - maintains four or more concurrent plotlines advancing simultaneously throughout an episode. Sometimes ''every'' episode of a season. The episodes are structured like a miniature SoapWheel cycling through a day's worth of events in "real time", going from one group of people to another and then starting the cycle anew.

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And then there's Four Lines, All Waiting: When a show - typically show--typically a SoapOpera, although any {{Soaperiz|ing}}ed show will do - maintains do--maintains four or more concurrent plotlines advancing simultaneously throughout an episode. Sometimes ''every'' episode of a season. The episodes are structured like a miniature SoapWheel cycling through a day's worth of events in "real time", going from one group of people to another and then starting the cycle anew.
26th Apr '16 8:57:13 AM JamesAustin
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* ''Film/TheAvengersAgeOfUltron'' was criticized for trying to give each Avenger their own individual character arc, which result in the majority of them being underdeveloped or badly executed.
* ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' came under critique partly because some viewers felt that trying to be Man of Steel 2, a Batman Solo film, and set up the Justice League at the same was to ''Dawn of Justice's'' detriment.

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* ''Film/TheAvengersAgeOfUltron'' ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' was criticized for trying to give each Avenger their own individual character arc, which result in the majority of them being underdeveloped or badly executed.
* ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' came under critique partly because some viewers felt that trying to be Man ''Man of Steel 2, 2'', a Batman Solo solo film, and set up the Justice League at the same was to ''Dawn of Justice's'' detriment.



* Averted frequently by RobertAltman. Take ''Film/{{Nashville}}'' for example, something like twenty characters, the film constantly shuffles between them, building a world of interplay rather than plot. Also this being an Altman, the dialogue is very low on the sound mix, sometimes several conversations at once, plus music, it's up to you which characters you want to listen to.

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* Averted frequently by RobertAltman.Creator/RobertAltman. Take ''Film/{{Nashville}}'' for example, something like twenty characters, the film constantly shuffles between them, building a world of interplay rather than plot. Also this being an Altman, the dialogue is very low on the sound mix, sometimes several conversations at once, plus music, it's up to you which characters you want to listen to.
17th Apr '16 3:48:12 PM VeryMelon
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* ''Film/TheAvengersAgeOfUltron'' was criticized for trying to give each Avenger their own individual character arc, which result in the majority of them being underdeveloped or badly executed.
* ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' came under critique partly because some viewers felt that trying to be Man of Steel 2, a Batman Solo film, and set up the Justice League at the same was to ''Dawn of Justice's'' detriment.
9th Apr '16 2:20:01 PM Morgenthaler
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* This is how the show ''Series/TheWire'' works. Usually, storylines will be hinted at in an episode at the beginning of the season and won't start to bear fruit until near the end. Sometimes they're hinted at in one season and start to pick up in another season. This is done surprisingly well and never really feels disorienting because you need to pay very close attention anyway to enjoy the show.
** The trope also grew progressively more emphatic as the series went on. If you read episode summaries on TheOtherWiki, the fourth-season summaries, for instance, are about five times longer than the first-season summaries.
** Also the case with producer David Simon's later show, ''{{Treme}}''. For instance, the season 2 premiere, with the job of getting us up to speed on what had been going on since the year-long TimeSkip, was only able to give each character two or three scenes.
* There are so many concurrent plotlines in every episode of ''TrueBlood'' that, combined with their [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters fairly extensive cast]], it usually takes half a season to get anything done in any of the plotlines or any of the characters.
** It's taken UpToEleven in season 5, with such a multitude of plotlines that have very minimal interaction with each other that it's hard to say which one is actually supposed to be the main plot.

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* This is how the show ''Series/TheWire'' works. Usually, storylines will be hinted at in an episode at the beginning of the season and won't start to bear fruit until near the end. Sometimes they're hinted at in one season and start to pick up in another season. This is done surprisingly well and never really feels disorienting because you need to pay very close attention anyway to enjoy the show.
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show. The trope also grew progressively more emphatic as the series went on. If you read episode summaries on TheOtherWiki, the fourth-season summaries, for instance, are about five times longer than the first-season summaries.
** * Also the case with producer David Simon's later show, ''{{Treme}}''.''Series/{{Treme}}''. For instance, the season 2 premiere, with the job of getting us up to speed on what had been going on since the year-long TimeSkip, was only able to give each character two or three scenes.
* There are so many concurrent plotlines in every episode of ''TrueBlood'' ''Series/TrueBlood'' that, combined with their [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters fairly extensive cast]], it usually takes half a season to get anything done in any of the plotlines or any of the characters.
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characters. It's taken UpToEleven in season 5, with such a multitude of plotlines that have very minimal interaction with each other that it's hard to say which one is actually supposed to be the main plot.



* On ''SexAndTheCity'', each of the four female leads would typically have a separate story. Often the only place the stories intersected was when the girls would meet for lunch and talk about stuff.

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* On ''SexAndTheCity'', ''Series/SexAndTheCity'', each of the four female leads would typically have a separate story. Often the only place the stories intersected was when the girls would meet for lunch and talk about stuff.



* ''Series/GameOfThrones'', based on ''ASongOfIceAndFire'' as mentioned in the literature section, naturally runs into this. It's not so bad in season one where there's only three major storylines to keep track of (King's Landing, the Wall, and the Dothraki), but season two attracted some heavy criticism for its pacing issues; suddenly many more characters have their own individual storylines, to the point that the show has to leave one or two out of every single episode, or just give them one scene that comes out of nowhere and leaves just as fast. The second-to-last episode of the season was widely praised because it devoted all of its fifty minutes to the Battle of Blackwater, with no cutaway scenes at all.

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'', based on ''ASongOfIceAndFire'' ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' as mentioned in the literature section, naturally runs into this. It's not so bad in season one where there's only three major storylines to keep track of (King's Landing, the Wall, and the Dothraki), but season two attracted some heavy criticism for its pacing issues; suddenly many more characters have their own individual storylines, to the point that the show has to leave one or two out of every single episode, or just give them one scene that comes out of nowhere and leaves just as fast. The second-to-last episode of the season was widely praised because it devoted all of its fifty minutes to the Battle of Blackwater, with no cutaway scenes at all.
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