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25th Jul '16 2:11:45 PM AtticusOmundson
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* Lady Tremaine in ''Disney/{{Cinderella}}'' and its sequels despises her stepdaughter and does everything she can make her life miserable. And for what reason? [[WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic All because she didn't push Cinderella out of her cooch.]] Cinderella's stepsisters also apply in the first film, though Anastasia is redeemed in the sequels.

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* Lady Tremaine in ''Disney/{{Cinderella}}'' and its sequels despises her stepdaughter and does everything she can to make her life miserable. And for what reason? [[WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic All because she didn't push Cinderella out of her cooch.]] Cinderella's stepsisters also apply in the first film, though Anastasia is redeemed in the sequels.
3rd Jul '16 5:48:03 PM nombretomado
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* From ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'', we have the Piraka, six (formerly seven) former [[BountyHunter Dark Hunters]] out for the [[MacGuffin Mask of Life]]. They didn't have to enslave and brainwash the population of Voya Nui to help them; they didn't even have to pretend to be Toa in the first place. Basically, they just did it to screw with them and try to avoid getting their hands dirty.

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* From ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'', ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'', we have the Piraka, six (formerly seven) former [[BountyHunter Dark Hunters]] out for the [[MacGuffin Mask of Life]]. They didn't have to enslave and brainwash the population of Voya Nui to help them; they didn't even have to pretend to be Toa in the first place. Basically, they just did it to screw with them and try to avoid getting their hands dirty.
3rd Jul '16 1:43:12 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''Fanfic/{{Equestrylvania}}'': This is pretty much the only reason any of the villains do ''anything''. It's clear they enjoy their work. During the epilogue to the first book, [[TheObiWan Aeon]] tells [[TheLancer Applejack]] about why Dracula's minions would do the things they do, leading to an explanation of this trope.

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* ''Fanfic/{{Equestrylvania}}'': This is pretty much the only reason any of the villains do ''anything''. It's clear they enjoy their work. During the epilogue to the first book, [[TheObiWan Aeon]] Aeon tells [[TheLancer Applejack]] about why Dracula's minions would do the things they do, leading to an explanation of this trope.
30th Jun '16 3:28:18 PM Luigifan
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Most villains have logical motivations for (morally) reprehensible actions and intentions. {{Ambition|IsEvil}}, [[WellIntentionedExtremist zeal]], {{greed}}, {{love|MakesYouEvil}}, [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain hatred]], [[BestServedCold revenge]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast a troubled]] [[FreudianExcuse childhood]], [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the desire for utopia]] [[VisionaryVillain and other warped "ideals"]] can all drive people to evil in ways that we understand and may be familiar with. If a villain's motivations can just be understood, they can [[KirkSummation be reasoned with]] -- sometimes.

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Most villains have logical motivations for (morally) reprehensible actions and intentions. {{Ambition|IsEvil}}, [[WellIntentionedExtremist zeal]], {{greed}}, {{love|MakesYouEvil}}, [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain hatred]], [[BestServedCold revenge]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast a troubled]] [[FreudianExcuse childhood]], [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the desire for utopia]] utopia]], [[VisionaryVillain and other warped "ideals"]] can all drive people to evil in ways that we understand and may be familiar with. If a villain's motivations can just be understood, they can [[KirkSummation be reasoned with]] -- sometimes.



This may be because EvilFeelsGood while GoodIsBoring [[GoodIsDumb and dumb]], but The Evulz is different from ItAmusedMe in that the Evulz-seeker need not find any pleasure in their evil acts -- in some cases they themselves (also) suffer as a consequence of the [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans crapsack world they inflict upon themselves and others]]. In other words, while many villains who follow this trope enjoy what they're doing, their actions also possess an underlying sense of indifference. Note that [[ItAmusedMe self-centered and amoral types merely seeking amusement]] wouldn't bother doing something bad if it [[PragmaticVillainy harmed them too]].

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This may be because EvilFeelsGood while GoodIsBoring [[GoodIsDumb and dumb]], but The Evulz is different from ItAmusedMe in that the Evulz-seeker need not find any pleasure in their evil acts -- in some cases they themselves (also) suffer as a consequence of the [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans crapsack world they inflict upon themselves and others]]. In other words, while many villains who follow this trope enjoy what they're doing, their actions also possess an underlying sense of indifference. Note that [[ItAmusedMe self-centered and amoral types merely seeking amusement]] wouldn't bother doing something bad if it [[PragmaticVillainy if it harmed them too]].



Of course, TropesAreTools without fail. Poor writing of this trope can lead to StupidEvil territory when villains do [[EvilIsPetty petty]] things or even [[TooDumbToLive dumb things that lead to their own downfall.]] Laziness in regards to this motivation can also lead to writing a GenericDoomsdayVillain since some writers tend to not put any characterization behind the motive to make it believable.

Some variants of For the Evulz characters, such as the StrawNihilist and most notably SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, compensate for this character flaw through using philosophy; they question and challenge the heroes' conception about justice, order, reason and the workings of the world, especially when it's a CrapsackWorld where those who do evil without any reason whatsoever can [[KarmaHoudini get away with it]]. These people are very likely to give a BreakingSpeech that deconstructs the other characters' assumption that there should be a logical, beneficial, realistic reason behind every behaviour.

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Of course, TropesAreTools without fail. Poor writing of this trope can lead to StupidEvil territory when villains do [[EvilIsPetty petty]] things or even [[TooDumbToLive dumb things that lead to their own downfall.]] Laziness in regards to this motivation can also lead to writing a GenericDoomsdayVillain GenericDoomsdayVillain, since some writers tend to not put any characterization behind the motive to make it believable.

Some variants of For the Evulz characters, such as the StrawNihilist and most notably SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, compensate for this character flaw through using philosophy; they question and challenge the heroes' conception about justice, order, reason reason, and the workings of the world, especially when it's a CrapsackWorld where those who do evil without any reason whatsoever can [[KarmaHoudini get away with it]]. These people are very likely to give a BreakingSpeech that deconstructs the other characters' assumption that there should be a logical, beneficial, realistic reason behind every behaviour.




19th Jun '16 9:49:12 AM Shadowgazer
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A non-comedic character whose personality is ''defined'' by this trope can be a CompleteMonster, the Complete Monster being defined as, well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin completely monstrous]] -- needing no justifications for doing evil and having no humanising or sympathetic elements (e.g., [[WellIntentionedExtremist good intent]] or [[AntiVillain self-doubt]]) whatsoever. Note, however, that the reverse is not true -- the Monster, after all, is a character defined by their boundless heinousness, not by having reasonless evil as their only possible motivation. Note also that a character defined by For The Evulz can avoid being a Complete Monster by being depicted humorously; a Complete Monster's evil is always played seriously. Other villainous personality types associated with For The Evulz include the PsychoForHire (who is very likely to be AxCrazy), the StrawNihilist, TheSociopath and variants of the ChaoticEvil character alignment.

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A non-comedic character whose personality is ''defined'' by this trope can be a CompleteMonster, the Complete Monster being defined as, well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin completely monstrous]] -- needing no justifications for doing evil and having no humanising or sympathetic elements (e.g., [[WellIntentionedExtremist good intent]] or [[AntiVillain self-doubt]]) whatsoever. Note, however, that the reverse is not true -- the Monster, after all, is a character defined by their boundless heinousness, not by having reasonless evil as their only possible motivation. Note also that a character defined by For The Evulz can avoid being a Complete Monster by being depicted humorously; a Complete Monster's evil is always played seriously. Other villainous personality types associated with For The Evulz include the PsychoForHire (who is very likely to be AxCrazy), the StrawNihilist, TheSociopath and variants of the ChaoticEvil character alignment.
18th Jun '16 8:08:36 PM SteveMB
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** The "Villains by Necessity" speech in ''Theatre/KingLear'' Edmund gives, in which he mocks people blaming their faults on the stars, as they did him, for being an illegitimate son of the Duke of Gloucester conceived under "bad stars." Edmund sums up with "S'foot (bullshit): I should have been what I am had the maidenliest star twinkled on my bastardizing." It's also possible that he went bad ''because'' people thought he would, in something like a SelfFulfillingProphecy. To Edmund it doesn't matter anymore...

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** The "Villains by Necessity" speech in ''Theatre/KingLear'' Edmund gives, in which he mocks people blaming their faults on the stars, as they did him, for being an illegitimate son of the Duke of Gloucester conceived under "bad stars." Edmund sums up with "S'foot (bullshit): I should have been what I am had the maidenliest star twinkled on my bastardizing." It's also possible that he went bad ''because'' ''[[ThenLetMeBeEvil because]]'' [[ThenLetMeBeEvil people thought he would, would]], in something like a SelfFulfillingProphecy. To Edmund it doesn't matter anymore...
15th Jun '16 7:50:38 AM ZimFan89
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* ''FanFic/{{Webwork}}'' has [[spoiler: Simon Leston]], the new Squid Khan General, who intends to [[OmnicidalManiac kill everyone on the planet]], partly because he [[MisanthropeSupreme hates people and thinks they deserve it]], but mostly simply because he now ''can''. [[SealedEvilInACan Tarakudo]] and [[FallenHero Jade]] are both [[EvenEvilHasStandards disgusted by this]], with the former describing villains with this kind of motivation to be like viruses.
27th May '16 9:31:45 AM TheLeondude
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* [[BigBad Imaginee]]from WebAnimation/TheAutisticWorldOfTheAutist usually plays this trope for laughs. Other times, [[NotSoHarmlessVillain not]][[MindRape so]][[ColdBloodedTorture much]].

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* [[BigBad Imaginee]]from Imaginee]] from WebAnimation/TheAutisticWorldOfTheAutist usually plays this trope for laughs. Other times, [[NotSoHarmlessVillain not]][[MindRape so]][[ColdBloodedTorture much]].not]] [[MindRape so]] [[ColdBloodedTorture much]]. It's lampshaded by Leon.
27th May '16 9:30:31 AM TheLeondude
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* [[BigBad Imaginee]]from WebAnimation/TheAutisticWorldOfTheAutist usually plays this trope for laughs. Other times, [[NotSoHarmlessVillain not]][[MindRape so]][[ColdBloodedTorture much]].
21st May '16 12:10:48 AM meanmetalmario
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* [[Wiki/SCPFoundation SCP-1481]] ''used'' to be a BenevolentGenie who would grant an unlimited number of wishes to his master, but now he is a hopelessly inept, [[TheStoner perpetually stoned]] loser who is much too out of it to grant wishes, usually just conjuring up food for himself to satisfy his munchies instead. At one point, during some drug-addled incoherent rambling, he reveals that a previous master of his used their first wish to put him in this state, their second wish to make the first wish irreversible, and then walked away without another word. Just to be a dick.
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