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2nd May '17 3:46:47 PM Az_Tech341
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Most villains have logical motivations for (morally) reprehensible actions and intentions. {{Ambition|IsEvil}}, [[KnightTemplar zeal]], {{greed}}, {{pride}}, [[DrivenByEnvy envy]], {{lust}}, [[UnstoppableRage wrath]], [[DirtyCoward fear]], {{love|MakesYouEvil}}, [[ThePowerOfHate hatred]], [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain bigotry]], {{revenge}}, [[PutThemAllOutOfMyMisery misery]], [[GreenEyedMonster jealousy]], [[TheResenter resentment]], [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]], [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds anguish]], [[MisanthropeSupreme misanthropy]], [[WellIntentionedExtremist good intentions]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast a troubled]] [[FreudianExcuse childhood]], [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the desire for utopia]], [[VisionaryVillain and other warped "ideals"]] can all drive people to evil in ways that we understand and may be familiar with. If a villain's motivations can just be understood, they can [[KirkSummation be reasoned with]] -- sometimes. At the best of times.

On the other hand, some villains cannot be reasoned with because there is ''nothing'' reasonable about their reasons for acting... well, ''evil''. They just do them because they like it. Unlike the ''amoral'' motivation we call ItAmusedMe, which may lead to evil in the pursuit of ([[TheUnfettered attachment-free]]) amusement, someone whose motivation is For The Evulz knows and cares about the morality of their actions -- insofar as they deliberately choose to do evil, and delight in doing so. To them, evil is not [[WellIntentionedExtremist a bad means]] [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans to a good end]] or even a [[BestServedCold bad means to a justifiable end]]; to them, evil is the means ''and'' the end, their motivation and their justification.

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Most villains have logical motivations for (morally) reprehensible actions and intentions. {{Ambition|IsEvil}}, [[KnightTemplar zeal]], {{greed}}, {{pride}}, [[DrivenByEnvy envy]], {{lust}}, [[UnstoppableRage wrath]], [[DirtyCoward fear]], {{love|MakesYouEvil}}, [[ThePowerOfHate hatred]], [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain bigotry]], {{revenge}}, [[PutThemAllOutOfMyMisery misery]], [[GreenEyedMonster jealousy]], [[TheResenter resentment]], [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]], [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds anguish]], [[MisanthropeSupreme misanthropy]], [[WellIntentionedExtremist good intentions]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast a troubled]] [[FreudianExcuse childhood]], [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the desire for utopia]], [[VisionaryVillain and other warped "ideals"]] can all drive people to evil in ways that we understand and may be familiar with. If a villain's motivations can just be understood, they can [[KirkSummation be reasoned with]] -- sometimes. At the best of times.

sometimes.

On the other hand, some villains cannot be reasoned with because there is ''nothing'' reasonable about their reasons for acting... well, ''evil''. They just do them because they like it. Unlike the ''amoral'' motivation we call ItAmusedMe, which may lead to evil in the pursuit of ([[TheUnfettered attachment-free]]) amusement, someone whose motivation is For The Evulz knows and cares about the morality of their actions -- insofar as they deliberately choose to do evil, and delight in doing so. To them, evil is not [[WellIntentionedExtremist a bad means]] [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans to a good end]] or even a [[BestServedCold bad means to a justifiable end]]; to them, evil is the means ''and'' the end, their motivation and their justification.
2nd May '17 2:08:53 AM Shadowgazer
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Most villains have logical motivations for (morally) reprehensible actions and intentions. {{Ambition|IsEvil}}, [[KnightTemplar zeal]], {{greed}}, {{pride}}, [[DrivenByEnvy envy]], {{lust}}, [[UnstoppableRage wrath]], [[DirtyCoward fear]], {{love|MakesYouEvil}}, [[ThePowerOfHate hatred]], [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain bigotry]], {{revenge}}, [[PutThemAllOutOfMyMisery misery]], [[GreenEyedMonster jealousy]], [[TheResenter resentment]], [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]], [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds anguish]], [[MisanthropeSupreme misanthropy]], [[WellIntentionedExtremist good intentions]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast a troubled]] [[FreudianExcuse childhood]], [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the desire for utopia]], [[VisionaryVillain and other warped "ideals"]] can all drive people to evil in ways that we understand and may be familiar with. If a villain's motivations can just be understood, they can [[KirkSummation be reasoned with]] -- sometimes.

On the other hand, some villains cannot be reasoned with because there is ''nothing'' reasonable about their reasons for acting... well, ''evil''. Unlike the ''amoral'' motivation we call ItAmusedMe, which may lead to evil in the pursuit of ([[TheUnfettered attachment-free]]) amusement, someone whose motivation is For The Evulz knows and cares about the morality of their actions -- insofar as they deliberately choose to do evil, and delight in doing so. To them, evil is not [[WellIntentionedExtremist a bad means]] [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans to a good end]] or even a [[OmnicidalManiac bad means]] [[BestServedCold to an evil end]]; to them, evil is the means ''and'' the end, their motivation and their justification.

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Most villains have logical motivations for (morally) reprehensible actions and intentions. {{Ambition|IsEvil}}, [[KnightTemplar zeal]], {{greed}}, {{pride}}, [[DrivenByEnvy envy]], {{lust}}, [[UnstoppableRage wrath]], [[DirtyCoward fear]], {{love|MakesYouEvil}}, [[ThePowerOfHate hatred]], [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain bigotry]], {{revenge}}, [[PutThemAllOutOfMyMisery misery]], [[GreenEyedMonster jealousy]], [[TheResenter resentment]], [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]], [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds anguish]], [[MisanthropeSupreme misanthropy]], [[WellIntentionedExtremist good intentions]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast a troubled]] [[FreudianExcuse childhood]], [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the desire for utopia]], [[VisionaryVillain and other warped "ideals"]] can all drive people to evil in ways that we understand and may be familiar with. If a villain's motivations can just be understood, they can [[KirkSummation be reasoned with]] -- sometimes.

sometimes. At the best of times.

On the other hand, some villains cannot be reasoned with because there is ''nothing'' reasonable about their reasons for acting... well, ''evil''. They just do them because they like it. Unlike the ''amoral'' motivation we call ItAmusedMe, which may lead to evil in the pursuit of ([[TheUnfettered attachment-free]]) amusement, someone whose motivation is For The Evulz knows and cares about the morality of their actions -- insofar as they deliberately choose to do evil, and delight in doing so. To them, evil is not [[WellIntentionedExtremist a bad means]] [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans to a good end]] or even a [[OmnicidalManiac bad means]] [[BestServedCold bad means to an evil a justifiable end]]; to them, evil is the means ''and'' the end, their motivation and their justification.
7th Apr '17 9:24:31 PM TheBigBopper
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On the other hand, some villains cannot be reasoned with because there is ''nothing'' reasonable about their reasons for acting... well, ''evil''. Unlike the ''amoral'' motivation we call ItAmusedMe, which may lead to evil in the pursuit of ([[TheUnfettered attachment-free]]) amusement, someone whose motivation is For The Evulz knows and cares about the morality of their actions -- insofar as they choose to do evil, and delight in doing so. To them, evil is not [[WellIntentionedExtremist a bad means]] [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans to a good end]] or even a [[OmnicidalManiac bad means]] [[BestServedCold to an evil end]]; to them, evil is the means ''and'' the end, their motivation and their justification.

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On the other hand, some villains cannot be reasoned with because there is ''nothing'' reasonable about their reasons for acting... well, ''evil''. Unlike the ''amoral'' motivation we call ItAmusedMe, which may lead to evil in the pursuit of ([[TheUnfettered attachment-free]]) amusement, someone whose motivation is For The Evulz knows and cares about the morality of their actions -- insofar as they deliberately choose to do evil, and delight in doing so. To them, evil is not [[WellIntentionedExtremist a bad means]] [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans to a good end]] or even a [[OmnicidalManiac bad means]] [[BestServedCold to an evil end]]; to them, evil is the means ''and'' the end, their motivation and their justification.
7th Apr '17 9:23:41 PM TheBigBopper
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[[caption-width-right:350:"It's not about money. It's about sending a message: ''Everything burns''."[[note]]Including the guy at the top.[[/note]]]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:"It's not about money. It's about sending a message: ''Everything burns''."[[note]]Including the guy at tied up on top of the top.heap.[[/note]]]]
6th Apr '17 10:52:39 PM Eoppen
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* Manitous, in ''TabletopGame/{{Deadlands}}'', often do things out of sheer gratuitous malice, particularly when in control of one of the Harrowed.
4th Apr '17 1:13:34 PM Psyclone
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* In a Creator/JohnMulaney routine, he describes attending a WildTeenParty during high school hosted at the house of a hated teacher while the latter was away. It went predictably horribly wrong, and the next day, John talked to the teacher's son who was freaking out not so much because of the horrible destruction to the house itself but by the disappearance of some vintage photographs of his grandmother. Since John [[WhatDidIDoLastNight barely remembers what happened]], he feared that he was somehow responsible... until a few years later, while staying at a friend's house, said friend ended up showing him a secret room ''filled'' with photos stolen from similar parties. A flabbergasted John asked WhyJustWhy and the friend replied "[[KickTheDog Because it's the one thing you can't replace]]".

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* In a Creator/JohnMulaney routine, he describes attending a WildTeenParty during high school hosted at the house of a hated teacher while the latter was away. It went predictably horribly wrong, and the next day, John talked to the teacher's son who was freaking out not so much because of the horrible destruction to the house itself but by the disappearance of some vintage photographs of his grandmother. Since John [[WhatDidIDoLastNight barely remembers what happened]], he feared that he was somehow responsible... until a few years later, while staying at a friend's house, said friend ended up showing him a secret room ''filled'' with photos stolen from similar parties. A flabbergasted John asked WhyJustWhy and gave a BigWhy prompting the friend replied to reply "[[KickTheDog Because it's the one thing you can't replace]]".
4th Apr '17 1:12:43 PM Psyclone
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* In a Creator/JohnMulaney routine, he describes attending a WildTeenParty during high school hosted at the house of a hated teacher while the latter was away. It went predictably horribly wrong, and the next day, John talked to the teacher's son who was freaking out not so much because of the horrible destruction to the house itself but by the disappearance of some vintage photographs of his grandmother. Since John [[WhatDidIDoLastNight barely remembers what happened]], he feared that he was somehow responsible... until a few years later, while staying at a friend's house, said friend ended up showing him a secret room ''filled'' with photos stolen from similar parties. John asks why do this and the friend replied "[[KickTheDog Because it's the one thing you can't replace]]".

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* In a Creator/JohnMulaney routine, he describes attending a WildTeenParty during high school hosted at the house of a hated teacher while the latter was away. It went predictably horribly wrong, and the next day, John talked to the teacher's son who was freaking out not so much because of the horrible destruction to the house itself but by the disappearance of some vintage photographs of his grandmother. Since John [[WhatDidIDoLastNight barely remembers what happened]], he feared that he was somehow responsible... until a few years later, while staying at a friend's house, said friend ended up showing him a secret room ''filled'' with photos stolen from similar parties. A flabbergasted John asks why do this asked WhyJustWhy and the friend replied "[[KickTheDog Because it's the one thing you can't replace]]".
4th Apr '17 1:11:50 PM Psyclone
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* In a Creator/JohnMulaney routine, he describes attending a WildTeenParty during high school hosted at the house of a hated teacher while the latter was away. It went predictably horribly wrong, and the next day, John talked to the teacher's son who was freaking out not so much because of the horrible destruction to the house itself but by the disappearance of some vintage photographs of his grandmother. Since John [[WhatDidIDoLastNight barely remembers what happened]], he feared that he was somehow responsible... until a few years later, while staying at a friend's house, said friend ended up showing him a secret room ''filled'' with photos stolen from similar parties. John asks why do this and the friend replied "[[KickTheDog Because it's the one thing you can't replace]]".
12th Mar '17 2:24:37 PM Az_Tech341
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*** A more fitting and non-deconstructed example within the same series would be [[spoiler:Zouken Matou]], the BigBad of the Heaven's Feel route. To put his For the Evulz actions into perspective, even the aforementioned example above has a problem with this guy and considers him a bastard. In ''LightNovel/FateZero''[[spoiler:Zouken chose to act for the evulz over being able to wish for anything.]]

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*** A more fitting and non-deconstructed example within the same series would be [[spoiler:Zouken Matou]], the BigBad of the Heaven's Feel route. To put his For the Evulz actions into perspective, even the aforementioned example above has a problem with this guy and considers him a bastard. In ''LightNovel/FateZero''[[spoiler:Zouken chose to act for the evulz over being able to wish for anything.]]
12th Mar '17 10:39:24 AM Dravencour
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*** A more fitting and non deconstructed example within the same work would be [[spoiler:Zouken Matou]], the big bad of the heavens feel scenario. To put his for the evulz actions into perspective, even the aforementioned example above has a problem with him and considers them a bastard. In ''LightNovel/FateZero''[[spoiler:He chose for the evulz over being able to wish for anything.]]

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*** A more fitting and non deconstructed non-deconstructed example within the same work series would be [[spoiler:Zouken Matou]], the big bad BigBad of the heavens feel scenario. Heaven's Feel route. To put his for For the evulz Evulz actions into perspective, even the aforementioned example above has a problem with him this guy and considers them him a bastard. In ''LightNovel/FateZero''[[spoiler:He ''LightNovel/FateZero''[[spoiler:Zouken chose to act for the evulz over being able to wish for anything.]]
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