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23rd Sep '16 11:27:22 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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Most villains have logical motivations for (morally) reprehensible actions and intentions. {{Ambition|IsEvil}}, [[KnightTemplar zeal]], {{greed}}, {{pride}}, [[DrivenByEnvy envy]], [[DirtyCoward fear]], {{lust}} {{love|MakesYouEvil}}, [[ThePowerOfHate hatred]], [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain bigotry]], {{revenge}}, [[PutThemAllOutOfMyMisery misery]], [[TheResenter resentment]], [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds anguish]], [[MisanthropeSupreme misanthropy]], [[WellIntentionedExtremist good intentions]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast a troubled]] [[FreudianExcuse childhood]], [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the desire for utopia]], [[VisionaryVillain and other warped "ideals"]] can all drive people to evil in ways that we understand and may be familiar with. If a villain's motivations can just be understood, they can [[KirkSummation be reasoned with]] -- sometimes.

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Most villains have logical motivations for (morally) reprehensible actions and intentions. {{Ambition|IsEvil}}, [[KnightTemplar zeal]], {{greed}}, {{pride}}, [[DrivenByEnvy envy]], {{lust}}, [[DirtyCoward fear]], {{lust}} {{love|MakesYouEvil}}, [[ThePowerOfHate hatred]], [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain bigotry]], {{revenge}}, [[PutThemAllOutOfMyMisery misery]], [[TheResenter resentment]], [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds anguish]], [[MisanthropeSupreme misanthropy]], [[WellIntentionedExtremist good intentions]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast a troubled]] [[FreudianExcuse childhood]], [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the desire for utopia]], [[VisionaryVillain and other warped "ideals"]] can all drive people to evil in ways that we understand and may be familiar with. If a villain's motivations can just be understood, they can [[KirkSummation be reasoned with]] -- sometimes.
23rd Sep '16 11:26:56 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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Most villains have logical motivations for (morally) reprehensible actions and intentions. {{Ambition|IsEvil}}, [[KnightTemplar zeal]], {{greed}}, {{pride}}, [[DrivenByEnvy envy]], [[DirtyCoward fear]], {{love|MakesYouEvil}}, [[ThePowerOfHate hatred]], [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain bigotry]], {{revenge}}, [[TheResenter resentment]], [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds anguish]], [[MisanthropeSupreme misanthropy]], [[WellIntentionedExtremist good intentions]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast a troubled]] [[FreudianExcuse childhood]], [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the desire for utopia]], [[VisionaryVillain and other warped "ideals"]] can all drive people to evil in ways that we understand and may be familiar with. If a villain's motivations can just be understood, they can [[KirkSummation be reasoned with]] -- sometimes.

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Most villains have logical motivations for (morally) reprehensible actions and intentions. {{Ambition|IsEvil}}, [[KnightTemplar zeal]], {{greed}}, {{pride}}, [[DrivenByEnvy envy]], [[DirtyCoward fear]], {{lust}} {{love|MakesYouEvil}}, [[ThePowerOfHate hatred]], [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain bigotry]], {{revenge}}, [[PutThemAllOutOfMyMisery misery]], [[TheResenter resentment]], [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds anguish]], [[MisanthropeSupreme misanthropy]], [[WellIntentionedExtremist good intentions]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast a troubled]] [[FreudianExcuse childhood]], [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the desire for utopia]], [[VisionaryVillain and other warped "ideals"]] can all drive people to evil in ways that we understand and may be familiar with. If a villain's motivations can just be understood, they can [[KirkSummation be reasoned with]] -- sometimes.



Compare MadeOfEvil, which is a character which also does evil for the sake of it, but do so because they are actually an AnthropomorphicPersonification of evil. A villain who is self-aware enough to ''boast'' that their acts are just for the sake of evil are a CardCarryingVillain. See also DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans, when a character strives to create a perpetual dystopic world simply for the sake of suffering.

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Compare MadeOfEvil, which is a character which also does evil for the sake of it, but do so because they are actually an AnthropomorphicPersonification of evil. A villain who is self-aware enough to ''boast'' that their acts are just for the sake of evil are a CardCarryingVillain. See also DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans, when a character strives to create a perpetual dystopic world simply for the sake of suffering.
suffering. Compare and contrast villains with BlueAndOrangeMorality, who ''do'' have underlying motivations beyond a mere desire for death and destruction, but not one most people would understand.
11th Sep '16 10:44:31 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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Most villains have logical motivations for (morally) reprehensible actions and intentions. {{Ambition|IsEvil}}, [[WellIntentionedExtremist zeal]], {{greed}}, {{pride}}, [[DrivenByEnvy envy]], [[DirtyCoward fear]], {{love|MakesYouEvil}}, [[ThePowerOfHate hatred]], [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain bigotry]], {{revenge}}, [[TheResenter resentment]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast a troubled]] [[FreudianExcuse childhood]], [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the desire for utopia]], [[VisionaryVillain and other warped "ideals"]] can all drive people to evil in ways that we understand and may be familiar with. If a villain's motivations can just be understood, they can [[KirkSummation be reasoned with]] -- sometimes.

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Most villains have logical motivations for (morally) reprehensible actions and intentions. {{Ambition|IsEvil}}, [[WellIntentionedExtremist [[KnightTemplar zeal]], {{greed}}, {{pride}}, [[DrivenByEnvy envy]], [[DirtyCoward fear]], {{love|MakesYouEvil}}, [[ThePowerOfHate hatred]], [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain bigotry]], {{revenge}}, [[TheResenter resentment]], [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds anguish]], [[MisanthropeSupreme misanthropy]], [[WellIntentionedExtremist good intentions]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast a troubled]] [[FreudianExcuse childhood]], [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the desire for utopia]], [[VisionaryVillain and other warped "ideals"]] can all drive people to evil in ways that we understand and may be familiar with. If a villain's motivations can just be understood, they can [[KirkSummation be reasoned with]] -- sometimes.
11th Sep '16 9:30:34 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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Most villains have logical motivations for (morally) reprehensible actions and intentions. {{Ambition|IsEvil}}, [[WellIntentionedExtremist zeal]], {{greed}}, {{pride}}, [[DirtyCoward fear]], {{love|MakesYouEvil}}, [[ThePowerOfHate hatred]], [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain bigotry]], {{revenge}}, [[TheResenter resentment]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast a troubled]] [[FreudianExcuse childhood]], [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the desire for utopia]], [[VisionaryVillain and other warped "ideals"]] can all drive people to evil in ways that we understand and may be familiar with. If a villain's motivations can just be understood, they can [[KirkSummation be reasoned with]] -- sometimes.

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Most villains have logical motivations for (morally) reprehensible actions and intentions. {{Ambition|IsEvil}}, [[WellIntentionedExtremist zeal]], {{greed}}, {{pride}}, [[DrivenByEnvy envy]], [[DirtyCoward fear]], {{love|MakesYouEvil}}, [[ThePowerOfHate hatred]], [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain bigotry]], {{revenge}}, [[TheResenter resentment]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast a troubled]] [[FreudianExcuse childhood]], [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the desire for utopia]], [[VisionaryVillain and other warped "ideals"]] can all drive people to evil in ways that we understand and may be familiar with. If a villain's motivations can just be understood, they can [[KirkSummation be reasoned with]] -- sometimes.
11th Sep '16 9:30:15 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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Most villains have logical motivations for (morally) reprehensible actions and intentions. {{Ambition|IsEvil}}, [[WellIntentionedExtremist zeal]], {{greed}}, [[DirtyCoward fear]], {{love|MakesYouEvil}}, [[ThePowerOfHate hatred]], [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain bigotry]], [[BestServedCold revenge]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast a troubled]] [[FreudianExcuse childhood]], [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the desire for utopia]], [[VisionaryVillain and other warped "ideals"]] can all drive people to evil in ways that we understand and may be familiar with. If a villain's motivations can just be understood, they can [[KirkSummation be reasoned with]] -- sometimes.

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Most villains have logical motivations for (morally) reprehensible actions and intentions. {{Ambition|IsEvil}}, [[WellIntentionedExtremist zeal]], {{greed}}, {{pride}}, [[DirtyCoward fear]], {{love|MakesYouEvil}}, [[ThePowerOfHate hatred]], [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain bigotry]], [[BestServedCold revenge]], {{revenge}}, [[TheResenter resentment]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast a troubled]] [[FreudianExcuse childhood]], [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the desire for utopia]], [[VisionaryVillain and other warped "ideals"]] can all drive people to evil in ways that we understand and may be familiar with. If a villain's motivations can just be understood, they can [[KirkSummation be reasoned with]] -- sometimes.
30th Aug '16 6:46:41 AM Silverblade2
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Some variants of For the Evulz characters, such as the StrawNihilist and most notably SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, compensate for this character flaw through using philosophy; they question and challenge the heroes' conception about justice, order, reason, and the workings of the world, especially when it's a CrapsackWorld where those who do evil without any reason whatsoever can [[KarmaHoudini get away with it]]. These people are very likely to give a BreakingSpeech that deconstructs the other characters' assumption that there should be a logical, beneficial, realistic reason behind every behaviour.

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Some variants of For the Evulz characters, such as the StrawNihilist and most notably SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, Comicbook/TheJoker, compensate for this character flaw through using philosophy; they question and challenge the heroes' conception about justice, order, reason, and the workings of the world, especially when it's a CrapsackWorld where those who do evil without any reason whatsoever can [[KarmaHoudini get away with it]]. These people are very likely to give a BreakingSpeech that deconstructs the other characters' assumption that there should be a logical, beneficial, realistic reason behind every behaviour.
24th Aug '16 2:21:00 PM Willbyr
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SisterTrope to ThrewMyBikeOnTheRoof.

The EvilCounterpart to ForGreatJustice.

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SisterTrope to ThrewMyBikeOnTheRoof. \n\n The EvilCounterpart to ForGreatJustice.



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17th Aug '16 12:22:04 AM Gorank
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[[caption-width-right:350:"It's not about money. It's about sending a message: ''Everything burns''."[[note]] Including the guy at the top.[[/note]]]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:"It's not about money. It's about sending a message: ''Everything burns''."[[note]] Including "[[note]]Including the guy at the top.[[/note]]]]
30th Jul '16 5:56:43 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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Most villains have logical motivations for (morally) reprehensible actions and intentions. {{Ambition|IsEvil}}, [[WellIntentionedExtremist zeal]], {{greed}}, [[DirtyCoward fear]], {{love|MakesYouEvil}}, [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain hatred]], [[BestServedCold revenge]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast a troubled]] [[FreudianExcuse childhood]], [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the desire for utopia]], [[VisionaryVillain and other warped "ideals"]] can all drive people to evil in ways that we understand and may be familiar with. If a villain's motivations can just be understood, they can [[KirkSummation be reasoned with]] -- sometimes.

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Most villains have logical motivations for (morally) reprehensible actions and intentions. {{Ambition|IsEvil}}, [[WellIntentionedExtremist zeal]], {{greed}}, [[DirtyCoward fear]], {{love|MakesYouEvil}}, [[ThePowerOfHate hatred]], [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain hatred]], bigotry]], [[BestServedCold revenge]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast a troubled]] [[FreudianExcuse childhood]], [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the desire for utopia]], [[VisionaryVillain and other warped "ideals"]] can all drive people to evil in ways that we understand and may be familiar with. If a villain's motivations can just be understood, they can [[KirkSummation be reasoned with]] -- sometimes.
29th Jul '16 10:07:33 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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Most villains have logical motivations for (morally) reprehensible actions and intentions. {{Ambition|IsEvil}}, [[WellIntentionedExtremist zeal]], {{greed}}, {{love|MakesYouEvil}}, [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain hatred]], [[BestServedCold revenge]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast a troubled]] [[FreudianExcuse childhood]], [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the desire for utopia]], [[VisionaryVillain and other warped "ideals"]] can all drive people to evil in ways that we understand and may be familiar with. If a villain's motivations can just be understood, they can [[KirkSummation be reasoned with]] -- sometimes.

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Most villains have logical motivations for (morally) reprehensible actions and intentions. {{Ambition|IsEvil}}, [[WellIntentionedExtremist zeal]], {{greed}}, [[DirtyCoward fear]], {{love|MakesYouEvil}}, [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain hatred]], [[BestServedCold revenge]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast a troubled]] [[FreudianExcuse childhood]], [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the desire for utopia]], [[VisionaryVillain and other warped "ideals"]] can all drive people to evil in ways that we understand and may be familiar with. If a villain's motivations can just be understood, they can [[KirkSummation be reasoned with]] -- sometimes.
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