History Main / ForgivenessRequiresDeath

14th May '17 9:00:44 PM nombretomado
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* In ''{{Trigun}}'', Vash [[FirstEpisodeSpoiler is such a pacifist]] that he holds himself liable for the deaths of people killed by the villain. Thus, when people learn his identity, capture him, and proceed to torture him with every intention of eventually killing him, all he can do is submit. He even states that he's to blame. It's only the interference of those he's befriended that stops the violence and frees him.

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* In ''{{Trigun}}'', ''Manga/{{Trigun}}'', Vash [[FirstEpisodeSpoiler is such a pacifist]] that he holds himself liable for the deaths of people killed by the villain. Thus, when people learn his identity, capture him, and proceed to torture him with every intention of eventually killing him, all he can do is submit. He even states that he's to blame. It's only the interference of those he's befriended that stops the violence and frees him.
14th Nov '16 10:41:49 PM animenutcase
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* In the No Mercy path of ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'', if you fall for the FinalBoss's [[spoiler:false offer of mercy, he will kill you and inform you that "if we're really friends, you won't come back [from death]."]]

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* In the No Mercy path of ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'', if you fall for the FinalBoss's [[spoiler:false offer of mercy, he will kill you and inform you that "if we're really friends, you won't come back [from death]."]]"]] The reason for this is the fact that the boss is aware of [[spoiler:your ability to hit the ResetButton, which re-starts the game with everyone alive]]. After all, if you're ''truly'' remorseful for killing everyone, why ''wouldn't'' you [[spoiler:bring them back and avoid killing them in the first place]] if you have the ability to do so?
4th Jul '16 7:38:04 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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Steve has been accused of a particularly heinous crime, and the locals are screaming for blood. While the supporting cast believe that Steve is innocent and seek to prove he was WronglyAccused, Steve shocks everyone by admitting his guilt and preparing to accept whatever they do to him, as he's convinced that he deserves it and that {{Forgiveness}} Requires Death. It doesn't help matters that the grieved UntrustingCommunity usually has archaic laws where the penalty for Steve's crime ([[AllCrimesAreEqual and all crimes in general]]) [[DisproportionateRetribution is death]]. Usually [[ColdBloodedTorture in a brutal manner at that]].

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Steve has been accused of a particularly heinous crime, and the locals are screaming for blood. While the supporting cast believe that Steve is innocent and seek to prove he was WronglyAccused, Steve shocks everyone by admitting his guilt and preparing to accept whatever they do to him, as he's convinced that he deserves it and that {{Forgiveness}} Requires Death. It doesn't help matters that the grieved UntrustingCommunity usually has archaic laws where the penalty for Steve's crime ([[AllCrimesAreEqual and all crimes in general]]) [[DisproportionateRetribution is death]]. Usually [[ColdBloodedTorture [[CruelAndUnusualDeath in a brutal manner at that]].
17th Apr '16 7:56:32 AM LucaEarlgrey
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* In the No Mercy path of ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'', if you fall for the FinalBoss's [[spoiler:false offer of mercy, he will kill you and inform you that "if we're really friends, you won't come back [from death]."]]
8th Jan '16 6:20:58 PM trumpetmarietta
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* ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', the final episodes from season one (Shockwave Part 1). As the crew visits a mining colony with a highly inflammable atmosphere the air suddenly ignites and the entire planet's surface is destroyed (along with the thousands or so of workers on it). While the officers claim to have followed procedures exactly it seems undeniable that the blast originated from the Enterprise's shuttle and the colonist's homeworld demands retribution while the Vulcans use it as another argument to get Enterprise out of space.

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* ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', the final episodes from season one (Shockwave Part 1). As the crew visits a mining colony with a highly inflammable atmosphere the air suddenly ignites and the entire planet's surface is destroyed (along with the thousands or so of workers on it). While the officers claim to have followed procedures exactly it seems undeniable that the blast originated from the Enterprise's ''Enterprise''[='=]s shuttle and the colonist's homeworld demands retribution while the Vulcans use it as another argument to get Enterprise ''Enterprise'' out of space.
8th Jan '16 6:18:11 PM trumpetmarietta
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* In ''Franchise/StarWars'': ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', the ''[[CoolStarship Millennium Falcon]]'' successfully escapes the pursuit of an Imperal Star Destroyer in an asteroid field. Captain Needa, knowing full well what's going to happen, visits Vader personally to take full responsibility for his failure. Vader forgives him...after [[YouHaveFailedMe he executes Needa]] by way of implied force choke.

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* In ''Franchise/StarWars'': ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', the ''[[CoolStarship Millennium Falcon]]'' successfully escapes the pursuit of an Imperal Star Destroyer in an asteroid field. Captain Needa, knowing full well what's going to happen, visits Vader personally to take full responsibility for his failure. Vader forgives him...after [[YouHaveFailedMe he executes Needa]] by way of implied force Force choke.
8th Jan '16 6:18:00 PM trumpetmarietta
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* In ''Franchise/StarWars'': ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', the Millenium Falcon successfully escapes the pursuit of an Imperal Star Destroyer in an asteroid field. Captain Needa, knowing full well what's going to happen, visits Vader personally to take full responsibility for his failure. Vader forgives him...after [[YouHaveFailedMe he executes Needa]] by way of implied force choke.

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* In ''Franchise/StarWars'': ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', the Millenium Falcon ''[[CoolStarship Millennium Falcon]]'' successfully escapes the pursuit of an Imperal Star Destroyer in an asteroid field. Captain Needa, knowing full well what's going to happen, visits Vader personally to take full responsibility for his failure. Vader forgives him...after [[YouHaveFailedMe he executes Needa]] by way of implied force choke.
10th Jun '15 3:41:16 AM MechWarrior
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* In ''{{Trigun}}'', Vash [[FirstEpisodeSpoiler is such a pacifist]] that he holds himself liable for the deaths of people killed by the Villain. Thus, when people learn his identity, capture him, and proceed to torture him with every intention of eventually killing him, all he can do is submit. He even states that he's to blame. It's only the interference of those he's befriended that stops the violence and frees him.

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* In ''{{Trigun}}'', Vash [[FirstEpisodeSpoiler is such a pacifist]] that he holds himself liable for the deaths of people killed by the Villain.villain. Thus, when people learn his identity, capture him, and proceed to torture him with every intention of eventually killing him, all he can do is submit. He even states that he's to blame. It's only the interference of those he's befriended that stops the violence and frees him.
25th Feb '15 4:33:38 AM isoycrazy
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* ''Series/StargateSG1'' did this with Teal'c attempting to die for the murder of a local's father when he was Apophis's [[TheDragon First Prime]]. Naturally, the fact that Apophis had threatened to kill ''everybody'' if he didn't [[ShootTheDog kill one guy]] did little to touch the "judge", who was the victim's son. [[ValuesDissonance By design]].

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* ''Series/StargateSG1'' did this with Teal'c attempting to die for the murder of a local's father when he was Apophis's [[TheDragon First Prime]]. Naturally, the fact that Apophis had threatened to kill ''everybody'' if he didn't [[ShootTheDog kill one guy]] did little to touch the "judge", who was the victim's son. [[ValuesDissonance By design]]. Further complicating things is the people would run when the gate activates but [[NoOneGetsLeftBehind move at the pace of the slowest person]]. The man he killed is crippled and silently nods to be killed to help save more people the next time.
14th Feb '15 11:19:05 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* In ''Franchise/StarWars'': ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', the Millenium Falcon successfully escapes the pursuit of an Imperal Star Destroyer in an asteroid field. Captain Needa, knowing full well what's going to happen, visits Vader personally to take full responsibility for his failure. Vader forgives him...after [[YouHaveFailedMe he executes Needa]] by way of implied force choke.
--> '''Vader:''' "Apology accepted, Captain Needa."
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