History Main / ForGreatJustice

4th Sep '16 4:03:51 AM Morgenthaler
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** A close second in English-speaking countries and probably more famous over all is France's "Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité" (Liberty, Equality, Fraternity). French democracy places a great deal of emphasis on social equality and solidarity, which often together trump the idea of personal freedom; the French have never forgotten the indignities of the ''[[LetatCestMoi ancien régime]]''. This is how France justifies many policies which Americans (and, truth be told, Britons) would find repulsive, such as banning religious clothing and symbols in public places or the heavily-regulated and state-directed French economy.

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** A close second in English-speaking countries and probably more famous over all is France's "Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité" (Liberty, Equality, Fraternity). French democracy places a great deal of emphasis on social equality and solidarity, which often together trump the idea of personal freedom; the French have never forgotten the indignities of the ''[[LetatCestMoi ''[[UsefulNotes/LetatCestMoi ancien régime]]''. This is how France justifies many policies which Americans (and, truth be told, Britons) would find repulsive, such as banning religious clothing and symbols in public places or the heavily-regulated and state-directed French economy.
4th Aug '16 7:27:33 AM MCanter89
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This trope has become somewhat anachronistic since the 1990s, with the Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles arguably being one of the last pure examples of it. Most heroes nowadays tend to have more complex motivations than simple, unblemished goodness or altruism, and some aren't [[BlackAndGreyMorality necessarily more morally desirable than the villains they fight.]]

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This trope has become somewhat anachronistic since the 1990s, with the Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles arguably being one of the last pure examples of it. Most heroes nowadays tend to have more complex motivations than simple, unblemished goodness or altruism, and some aren't [[BlackAndGreyMorality necessarily more morally desirable than the villains they fight.]]
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* The much criticized ''ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice'' has a lot of the characters saying that they "want justice!" despite the fact that they are really just out for revenge.

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* The much criticized much-criticized ''ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice'' has a lot of the characters saying that they "want justice!" despite the fact that they are really just out for revenge.



--> '''Bonasera''': ''Then I said to my wife, "For justice, we must go to Don Corleone."

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--> '''Bonasera''': ''Then -->'''Bonasera''': Then I said to my wife, "For justice, we must go to Don Corleone."



--> '''Don Corleone''': I understand. You found paradise in America. You had a good trade, you made a good living. The police protected you and there were courts of law. So you didn't need a friend like me. Now you come and say "Don Corleone, give me justice." But you don't ask with respect. You don't offer friendship. You don't even think to call me "Godfather." You come into my house on the day my daughter is to be married and you ask me to do murder - for money.
--> '''Bonasera''': I ask you for justice.
--> '''Don Corleone''': That is not justice. Your daughter is alive.
--> '''Bonasera''': Let them suffer then, as she suffers!

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--> '''Don -->'''Don Corleone''': I understand. You found paradise in America. You had a good trade, you made a good living. The police protected you and there were courts of law. So you didn't need a friend like me. Now you come and say "Don Corleone, give me justice." But you don't ask with respect. You don't offer friendship. You don't even think to call me "Godfather." You come into my house on the day my daughter is to be married and you ask me to do murder - Ė for money.
--> '''Bonasera''': -->'''Bonasera''': I ask you for justice.
--> '''Don -->'''Don Corleone''': That is not justice. Your daughter is alive.
--> '''Bonasera''': -->'''Bonasera''': Let them suffer then, as she suffers!



--> ''It.''
--> ''Wasn't.''
--> ''Right.''
--> No, it wasn't. But the world wasn't a fair place, was it? And I had more reason to know it than most people twice my age. The world wasn't nice, and it wasn't fair. People who didn't deserve it suffered and died every single day.
--> So what? ''So somebody ought to do something about it.''

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--> ''Wasn't.-->''Wasn't.''
--> ''Right.-->''Right.''
--> No, -->No, it wasn't. But the world wasn't a fair place, was it? And I had more reason to know it than most people twice my age. The world wasn't nice, and it wasn't fair. People who didn't deserve it suffered and died every single day.
--> So -->So what? ''So somebody ought to do something about it.''



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-->'''Angelus:''' [[IncomingHam Wherever there's injustice in the world]], wherever scum like you is out walking-- ''(notices wheelchair)'' --well, [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain rolling]] the streets, look over your shoulder. I'll be there.

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-->'''Angelus:''' [[IncomingHam Wherever there's injustice in the world]], wherever scum like you is out walking-- ''(notices wheelchair)'' --well, walking--''(notices wheelchair)''--well, [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain rolling]] the streets, look over your shoulder. I'll be there.



--->'''Spike''': What’s this? Sitting around watching the telly while thereís evil still afoot. Thatís not very industrious of you. I say we go out there (Rubs his hands together) and kick a little demon ass! What, canít go without your Buffy, is that it? Too chicken? Letís find her! She is the Chosen One after all. Ė Come on! Vampires! Grrr! Nasty! Letís annihilate them. For justice - and for - the safety of puppies Ė and Christmas, right? Letís ''fight'' that evil! - Letís ''kill'' something!

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--->'''Spike''': What’s What's this? Sitting around watching the telly while thereís evil still afoot. Thatís not very industrious of you. I say we go out there (Rubs his hands together) and kick a little demon ass! What, canít go without your Buffy, is that it? Too chicken? Letís find her! She is the Chosen One after all. Ė Come on! Vampires! Grrr! Nasty! Letís annihilate them. For justice - and for - the safety of puppies Ė and Christmas, right? Letís ''fight'' that evil! - Letís ''kill'' something!



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* As do the Tau Empire in TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}, with their ubiquitous catchphrase, "For the Greater Good!" This has the effect of making newcomers to the series believe and latch onto the idea that the Tau are the [[BlackandGreyMorality "Good Guys"]], prompting others to mock them with the phrase "Good for the Good God!"

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* As do the Tau Empire in TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}, with their ubiquitous catchphrase, "For the Greater Good!" This has the effect of making newcomers to the series believe and latch onto the idea that the Tau are the [[BlackandGreyMorality [[BlackAndGreyMorality "Good Guys"]], prompting others to mock them with the phrase "Good for the Good God!"



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** ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'' gives us Detective Fulbright. His MO is basically this trope, with his own CatchPhrase of "In justice we trust!". [[spoiler: Subverted when it is discovered that the Fulbright who the characters meet is actually a murderous, emotionless sociopath (and final villain of the game) impersonating the now-deceased real Fulbright, but the original presumably used the phrase honestly.]]

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** ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'' gives us Detective Fulbright. His MO is basically this trope, with his own CatchPhrase of "In justice we trust!". [[spoiler: Subverted [[spoiler:Subverted when it is discovered that the Fulbright who the characters meet is actually a murderous, emotionless sociopath (and final villain of the game) impersonating the now-deceased real Fulbright, but the original presumably used the phrase honestly.]]



--> FIGHT, MEGA MAN! FOR EVERLASTING PEACE!

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--> FIGHT, -->FIGHT, MEGA MAN! FOR EVERLASTING PEACE!



* "''VideoGame/SpaceAce'', defender of truth, justice and the planet Earth! ...[[AlwaysSaveTheGirl and his girlfriend, Kimberly]]."

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* "''VideoGame/SpaceAce'', defender of truth, justice and the planet Earth! ...[[AlwaysSaveTheGirl Earth! Ö[[AlwaysSaveTheGirl and his girlfriend, Kimberly]]."



** Vesperia's successor, ''VideoGame/TalesOfGraces'' also features a much more minor, less serious version of this. In the [[AMinorKidroduction childhood arc]], [[TheHero Asbe]]l will go into battle shouting "I fight for justice!" for no readily apparent reason. This is probably to highlight that he's still too young and immature to know what he's fighting for at all, and is just saying this because it sounds cool.

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** Vesperia's successor, ''VideoGame/TalesOfGraces'' also features a much more minor, less serious version of this. In the [[AMinorKidroduction childhood arc]], [[TheHero Asbe]]l Asbel]] will go into battle shouting "I fight for justice!" for no readily apparent reason. This is probably to highlight that he's still too young and immature to know what he's fighting for at all, and is just saying this because it sounds cool.



** Subverted when it turns out that [[spoiler: [[EvilAllAlong he was just helping Pit and company so that he could take over the Aurum.]] [[EvilIsNotAToy After he hijacks them, it comes back to bite him about four minutes later.]]]]

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** Subverted when it turns out that [[spoiler: [[EvilAllAlong [[spoiler:[[EvilAllAlong he was just helping Pit and company so that he could take over the Aurum.]] Aurum]]. [[EvilIsNotAToy After he hijacks them, it comes back to bite him about four minutes later.]]]]later]].]]






** Germany has "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit" (Unity and Justice and Liberty).[[note]]Perhaps it's worth mentioning that this phrase most famously occurs in the third stanza of the Song of the Germans (Das Lied der Deutschen). You know, the song whose first stanza starts with "Deutschland, Deutschland über Alles." The third stanza (only) is the modern national anthem of Germany.[[/note]][[note]]It should be noted that the Song was from a time when there was [[AllTheLittleGermanies no german state]] and the songwriter just wanted to emphasize how important the existence of such a state was for him. The song was not meamt to be aggressive against other countries, that's one reason why it was used as national anthem during the Weimar Republic, but Nazi Germany only used the first stanza. [[/note]] Modern Germany, as one might recall, had a very hard time in getting to where it is now. Its legal system is noted for trying to strike a balance between the extremes of France and Britain in substance (in format, it's all French) and is ''very'' concerned with ensuring that the rule of law is applied consistently and fairly.

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** Germany has "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit" (Unity and Justice and Liberty).[[note]]Perhaps it's worth mentioning that this phrase most famously occurs in the third stanza of the Song of the Germans (Das Lied der Deutschen). You know, the song whose first stanza starts with "Deutschland, Deutschland über Alles." The third stanza (only) is the modern national anthem of Germany.[[/note]][[note]]It should be noted that the Song was from a time when there was [[AllTheLittleGermanies no german state]] and the songwriter just wanted to emphasize how important the existence of such a state was for him. The song was not meamt to be aggressive against other countries, that's one reason why it was used as national anthem during the Weimar Republic, but Nazi Germany only used the first stanza. [[/note]] Modern Germany, as one might recall, had a very hard time in getting to where it is now. Its legal system is noted for trying to strike a balance between the extremes of France and Britain in substance (in format, it's all French) and is ''very'' concerned with ensuring that the rule of law is applied consistently and fairly.
30th Jun '16 4:04:55 PM Kafkesque
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* Several characters in ''{{VideoGame/Overwatch}}'', most prominently Pharah ("[[CatchPhrase JUSTICE]] [[MacrossMissileMassacre RAINS FROM ABOVE!]]") and Reinhardt (who is a literal, if high-tech, KnightInShiningArmor).


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26th Jun '16 1:57:31 PM Gamermaster
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* PlayedForLaughs in ''Anime/SpacePatrolLuluco'' where everyone's suits shout out "Fight for Justice!" whenever they attack. UpToEleven with DaChief, [[MeaningfulName Over Justice]].

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* PlayedForLaughs in ''Anime/SpacePatrolLuluco'' where everyone's suits shout out "Fight "[[GratuitousEnglish Fight for Justice!" Justice!]]" whenever they attack. UpToEleven with DaChief, [[MeaningfulName Over Justice]].
26th Jun '16 1:20:09 PM Gamermaster
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* PlayedForLaughs in ''Anime/SpacePatrolLuluco'' where everyone's suits shout out "Fight for Justice!" whenever they attack. UpToEleven with DaChief, [[MeaningfulName Over Justice]].
1st May '16 8:40:44 PM ChrisX
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* In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'', this is both averted and played straight in two characters: Xander is more KnightInSourArmor, believing that this trope is a complete sham, as it makes one person not see the whole picture that [[GreyAndGrayMorality there's no clear cut good and evil in life]]. Also played straight on Arthur, who's born and raised into believing justice and doing good overall, with his quotes rife with declarations of JusticeWillPrevail. The funny thing is? They're under the same banner (Nohr). Fittingly, however, they cannot support to each other, and Arthur is instead the retainer of the youngest, most childish sibling, Elise, who DOES find such escapades of justice awesome.
30th Apr '16 8:12:48 AM Grudgeal
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* {{Deconstructed}} by Vhailor in ''VideoGames/PlanescapeTorment''. Justice is his literal ''raison d'etre'', it's the reason he's still alive because he's unwilling to die as long as there is justice left to be meted out. He is completely single-minded on punishing evil, has close to no ego and views himself as an implement of an ideal rather than a person, nigh impossible to dissuade or convince, uncompromising, believes in the rightness of his cause, and, in a world full of GreyAndGrayMorality, [[BlackAndWhiteInsanity utterly terrifying]].
15th Apr '16 8:59:18 AM Mhazard
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The EvilCounterpart is ForTheEvulz, or WellIntentionedExtremists if they had good intents. Do NOT confuse with JusticeWillPrevail, a more complicated topic to say the least.

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The EvilCounterpart is ForTheEvulz, or WellIntentionedExtremists WellIntentionedExtremist if they the villains had good intents.intents behind their atrocities. Do NOT confuse with JusticeWillPrevail, a more complicated topic to say the least.
15th Apr '16 8:58:54 AM Mhazard
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The EvilCounterpart is ForTheEvulz. Do NOT confuse with JusticeWillPrevail, a more complicated topic to say the least.

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The EvilCounterpart is ForTheEvulz.ForTheEvulz, or WellIntentionedExtremists if they had good intents. Do NOT confuse with JusticeWillPrevail, a more complicated topic to say the least.
25th Mar '16 11:27:10 AM JulianLapostat
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** Sadly, not every country with such a motto is also able to follow this motto. The official motto "Justice, Liberty, Prosperity" belongs to the Republic of South Sudan, which is torn in civil wars since sixty years! "Paix, Justice, Travail"is the motto of the Kongo, one of the poorest countries in the world, and a state that has also to deal with civil war.

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** * Sadly, not every country with such a motto is also able to follow this motto. The official motto "Justice, Liberty, Prosperity" belongs to the Republic of South Sudan, which is torn in civil wars since sixty years! "Paix, Justice, Travail"is the motto of the Kongo, one of the poorest countries in the world, and a state that has also to deal with civil war. Of course, this is universally true for every nation, the land of "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" was built on slavery, and "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity" excluded those pesky colonial nations.
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