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3rd Apr '17 10:14:11 PM TheBigBopper
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Compare LoveMartyr, which is a character who stays loyal to a romantic partner who mistreats them.

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This trope overlaps with LoveMakesYouDumb, but it's fundamentally more of an idealism trope than an intelligence trope. The fool for love often knows what they're getting into from experience and willfully ignores red flags instead of being too blinded by naivete or hubris to see them in the first place. In fact, the character's feelings don't even have to necessarily lead to real stupidity as long as they believe in their own head that their feelings are foolish. Compare LoveMartyr, which is a character who stays loyal to a romantic partner who mistreats them.
3rd Apr '17 9:36:51 PM TheBigBopper
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Normally, you'd expect a character known for being tough and cynical to also be wary of romantic love. They of all people know that LoveIsAWeakness. It's dangerous sentimentality that [[LoveMakesYouDumb clouds your judgement]] and makes you vulnerable to [[TheVamp being manipulated]] or [[LoveHurts having your heart broken]]. But for every ConfirmedBachelor or CelibateHero who scoffs at love, there's another otherwise hard-boiled character who can't help falling in love against their better judgement.

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Normally, you'd expect a character known for being tough and cynical about people to also be wary of romantic love. They of all people know that LoveIsAWeakness. It's dangerous sentimentality that [[LoveMakesYouDumb clouds your judgement]] and makes you vulnerable to [[TheVamp being manipulated]] or [[LoveHurts having your heart broken]]. But for every ConfirmedBachelor or CelibateHero who scoffs at love, there's another otherwise hard-boiled character who can't help falling in love against their better judgement.
30th Dec '16 2:16:44 PM Dravencour
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** [[TheHero Guts himself]] also qualifies for this trope. He's the [[RatedMForManly most macho]], most badass character in the story, [[FindTheCure yet everything that he's doing currently]] is for [[LoveInterest his beloved Casca]]. Even before things [[StarCrossedLovers took a turn for the worse in their relationship]], Casca was one of those few individuals whom Guts showed his [[RealMenHateAffection softer]], [[WarriorPoet emotional]], and even [[ManlyTears vulnerable]] side to. His situation is very much the dark and tragic example of this trope, because [[spoiler: [[TheOphelia Casca goes insane and amnesiac]] after [[GoMadFromTheRevelation her traumatic experience during the Eclipse]] [[LaserGuidedAmnesia and ceases to remember Guts]]]] [[HeartbrokenBadass Guts is not very happy]] [[RoaringRampageofRevenge for a long while.]]

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** [[TheHero Guts himself]] also qualifies for this trope. He's the [[RatedMForManly most macho]], most badass character in the story, [[FindTheCure yet everything that he's doing currently]] is for [[LoveInterest his beloved Casca]]. Even before things [[StarCrossedLovers took a turn for the worse in their relationship]], Casca was one of those few individuals whom Guts showed his [[RealMenHateAffection softer]], [[WarriorPoet emotional]], and even [[ManlyTears vulnerable]] side to. His situation is very much the dark and tragic example of this trope, because [[spoiler: [[TheOphelia Casca goes insane and amnesiac]] after [[GoMadFromTheRevelation her traumatic experience during the Eclipse]] [[LaserGuidedAmnesia [[AmnesiacLover and ceases to remember Guts]]]] [[HeartbrokenBadass Guts is not very happy]] [[RoaringRampageofRevenge for a long while.]]
30th Dec '16 4:13:52 AM Dravencour
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** [[TheHero Guts]] also constitutes for this trope. He's the [[RatedMForManly most macho]], most badass character in the story, [[FindTheCure yet everything that he's doing currently]] is for [[LoveInterest his beloved Casca]]. Even before things [[StarCrossedLovers took a turn for the worse in their relationship]], Casca was one of those few individuals whom Guts showed his [[RealMenHateAffection softer]], [[WarriorPoet emotional]], and even [[ManlyTears vulnerable]] side to. His situation is very much the dark and tragic example of this trope, because [[spoiler: [[TheOpheliac Casca goes insane and amnesiac]] after [[GoMadFromTheRevelation her traumatic experience during the Eclipse]] [[TheLostLenore and ceases to remember Guts]]]] [[HeartbrokenBadass Guts is not very happy]] [[RoaringRampageofRevenge for a long while.]]

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** [[TheHero Guts]] Guts himself]] also constitutes qualifies for this trope. He's the [[RatedMForManly most macho]], most badass character in the story, [[FindTheCure yet everything that he's doing currently]] is for [[LoveInterest his beloved Casca]]. Even before things [[StarCrossedLovers took a turn for the worse in their relationship]], Casca was one of those few individuals whom Guts showed his [[RealMenHateAffection softer]], [[WarriorPoet emotional]], and even [[ManlyTears vulnerable]] side to. His situation is very much the dark and tragic example of this trope, because [[spoiler: [[TheOpheliac [[TheOphelia Casca goes insane and amnesiac]] after [[GoMadFromTheRevelation her traumatic experience during the Eclipse]] [[TheLostLenore [[LaserGuidedAmnesia and ceases to remember Guts]]]] [[HeartbrokenBadass Guts is not very happy]] [[RoaringRampageofRevenge for a long while.]]
21st Dec '16 1:21:53 AM TheBigBopper
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This has been a ''very'' common trope in popular music, and was particularly in vogue in TheFifties. The idea is that for better or for worse, you have to be a fool to fall in love, but songs can portray it either idealistically or cynically.



* A very common trope in popular music, especially around TheFifties or so, is that--for better or for worse--you have to be a fool to fall in love.
21st Dec '16 1:19:43 AM TheBigBopper
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* "Fool for Love" by Sandy Rogers, a rather wistful tune about a guy who was a fool for love since the day he was born. First he's with a girl when they're six and seven, and he goes through puppy love. As he grows up he stays foolishly optimistic, and the last time the narrator sees him alive he's trying to break up a wedding.

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* "Fool for Love" performed by Sandy Rogers, Rogers for the 1985 film ''Fool for Love'', is a rather wistful tune about a guy who was a fool for love since the day he was born. First he's with a girl when they're six and seven, and he goes through puppy love. As he grows up he stays foolishly optimistic, and the last time the narrator sees him alive he's trying to break up a wedding.
21st Dec '16 1:18:40 AM TheBigBopper
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Careful not to confuse the trope with the 1985 film ''Fool for Love''.



* "Fool for Love" by Sandy Rogers, a pop-country tune that appeared in the 1985 movie ''Fool For Love'' and tells a rather wistful story. It's about a guy who was a fool for love since the day he was born: First he's with a girl when they're six and seven, and he goes through puppy love. As he grows up he stays foolishly optimistic, and the last time the narrator sees him alive he's trying to break up a wedding.

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* "Fool for Love" by Sandy Rogers, a pop-country tune that appeared in the 1985 movie ''Fool For Love'' and tells a rather wistful story. It's tune about a guy who was a fool for love since the day he was born: born. First he's with a girl when they're six and seven, and he goes through puppy love. As he grows up he stays foolishly optimistic, and the last time the narrator sees him alive he's trying to break up a wedding.



* Music/LordHuron's song and music video "Fool for Love" is about a man who challenges a rival to a duel to the death for the right to mary the girl he loves; The guy's named [[RedBaron Big Jim]] for a reason; [[CurbStompBattle It doesn't go well for the Fool]], and [[spoiler:he [[TheHeroDies loses his life]]]].
--> Before I commence my ride\\
I'm asking Lily to be my bride\\
I know there's another man\\
But he ain't gonna delay my plans\\
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I know she's gonna be my wife\\
Gonna fall in love I'm gonna live my life with her\\
You know I bet he's not so tough\\
Ain't afraid of him cause I'm a fool for love

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* Music/LordHuron's song and music video "Fool for Love" is about a man who challenges challenging a rival to a duel to the death for the right to mary the hand of a girl he loves; The guy's named [[RedBaron Big Jim]] for a reason; [[CurbStompBattle It doesn't go well for the Fool]], and [[spoiler:he [[TheHeroDies loses his life]]]].
--> Before I commence my ride\\
I'm asking Lily to be my bride\\
I know there's another man\\
But he ain't gonna delay my plans\\
\\
I know she's gonna be my wife\\
Gonna fall in love I'm gonna live my life with her\\
You know I bet he's not so tough\\
Ain't afraid of him cause I'm a fool for love
loves.
21st Dec '16 1:16:17 AM TheBigBopper
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* Music/LordHuron's song and music video "Fool for Love" is about a man who challenges a rival to a duel to the death for the right to mary the girl he loves; The guy's named [[RedBaron Big Jim]] for a reason; [[CurbStompBattle It doesn't end well for the Fool]].

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* Music/LordHuron's song and music video "Fool for Love" is about a man who challenges a rival to a duel to the death for the right to mary the girl he loves; The guy's named [[RedBaron Big Jim]] for a reason; [[CurbStompBattle It doesn't end go well for the Fool]].Fool]], and [[spoiler:he [[TheHeroDies loses his life]]]].
21st Dec '16 1:15:30 AM TheBigBopper
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* Music/LordHuron's song and music video "Fool for Love" is about a man who challenges a rival to a duel to the death for the right to mary the girl he loves; The guy's named Big Jim for a reason; [[TheHeroDies It doesn't end well for the Fool]].

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* Music/LordHuron's song and music video "Fool for Love" is about a man who challenges a rival to a duel to the death for the right to mary the girl he loves; The guy's named [[RedBaron Big Jim Jim]] for a reason; [[TheHeroDies [[CurbStompBattle It doesn't end well for the Fool]].
21st Dec '16 1:14:45 AM TheBigBopper
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* Music/LordHuron's song and music video "Fool for Love" is about a man who challenges a rival to a duel to the death for the right to mary the girl he loves; The guy's named Big Jim for a reason; [[CurbStompBattle It doesn't end well for the Fool]].

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* Music/LordHuron's song and music video "Fool for Love" is about a man who challenges a rival to a duel to the death for the right to mary the girl he loves; The guy's named Big Jim for a reason; [[CurbStompBattle [[TheHeroDies It doesn't end well for the Fool]].
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