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1st Jul '16 7:46:14 PM comicwriter
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* Marvel goes back and forth over whether or not TheHulk has ever accidentally killed someone during his city destroying rampages. This lead to a notable {{Retcon}} at least once; the Hulk was sent into space for the ''PlanetHulk'' storyline because a fight between him and [[ComicBook/FantasticFour the Thing]] inadvertently caused the deaths of over twenty people. This was later retconned into severe injuries, which made the whole "shoot him into space" thing into retroactive DisproportionateRetribution.

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* Marvel goes back and forth over whether or not TheHulk has ever accidentally killed someone during his city destroying rampages. This lead led to a notable {{Retcon}} at least once; the Hulk was sent into space for the ''PlanetHulk'' storyline because a fight between him and [[ComicBook/FantasticFour the Thing]] inadvertently caused the deaths of over twenty people. This was later retconned into severe injuries, which made the whole "shoot him into space" thing into retroactive DisproportionateRetribution.



* Creator/JoeQuesada was adamant that the mainstream Franchise/MarvelUniverse would ''never'' crossover with the UltimateMarvel Universe, and is on record saying that the idea would be creatively bankrupt. Fast-forward to 2012, where Marvel launched [[ComicBook/SpiderMen a heavily-publicized crossover]] between Peter Parker, the mainstream universe Spider-Man, and [[AffirmativeActionLegacy Miles Morales]], the new ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan. This was largely done to celebrate Spider-Man's 50th anniversary, as well as cash-in on the success of the ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan'' movie.

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* Creator/JoeQuesada was adamant that the mainstream Franchise/MarvelUniverse would ''never'' crossover with the UltimateMarvel Universe, and is on record saying that the idea would be creatively bankrupt. Fast-forward to 2012, where Marvel launched [[ComicBook/SpiderMen a heavily-publicized crossover]] between Peter Parker, the mainstream universe Spider-Man, and [[AffirmativeActionLegacy Miles Morales]], Comicbook/MilesMorales, the new ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan. This was largely done to celebrate Spider-Man's 50th anniversary, as well as cash-in on the success of the ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan'' movie.



* The creators of ''Film/ScottPilgrimVsTheWorld'' have gone back and forth on whether the events in the movie actually happened, or whether they were all in Scott's head. Aubrey Plaza, the character who plays Julie, has stated that the reason her character acts so hostile towards Scott is because she has an unrequited crush on him. Bryan O'Malley, the creator of the comics, disagrees with this, but Edgar Wright, the director of the movie, supports it.

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* The creators of ''Film/ScottPilgrimVsTheWorld'' have gone back and forth on whether the events in the movie actually happened, or whether they were all in Scott's head. Aubrey Plaza, the character actress who plays Julie, has stated that the reason her character acts so hostile towards Scott is because she has an unrequited crush on him. Bryan O'Malley, the creator of the comics, disagrees with this, but Edgar Wright, the director of the movie, supports it.
29th Jun '16 11:10:16 AM WillKeaton
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** He also keeps claiming that a game's quality is determined entirely by its sales and declaring that anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong (citations [[http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2010/04/02/email-do-greater-sales-mean-greater-quality/ here]], [[http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2010/07/01/email-regarding-the-email-do-you-really-believe-better-sales-means-better-quality/ here]], [[http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2010/07/02/email-more-on-sales-and-quality/ here]], and [[http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2011/06/24/malstrom-is-retarded/ here]]), yet he has admitted in [[http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2012/06/16/tasteless-is-why-modern-nintendos-content-is-not-as-good-as-classic-nintendo/ a least one entry]] that sales are unrelated to how good a game is and that many terrible games sold well. He even went as far as to claim that he doesn't consider ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry'' (the second highest-selling SNES game, no less) to be a good game in the same post.

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** He also keeps claiming that a game's quality is determined entirely by its sales and declaring that anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong wrong, (citations [[http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2010/04/02/email-do-greater-sales-mean-greater-quality/ here]], here,]] [[http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2010/07/01/email-regarding-the-email-do-you-really-believe-better-sales-means-better-quality/ here]], here,]] [[http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2010/07/02/email-more-on-sales-and-quality/ here]], here,]] and [[http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2011/06/24/malstrom-is-retarded/ here]]), here,]]) yet he has admitted in [[http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2012/06/16/tasteless-is-why-modern-nintendos-content-is-not-as-good-as-classic-nintendo/ a least one entry]] that sales are unrelated to how good a game is and that many terrible games sold well. He even went as far as to claim that he doesn't consider ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry'' (the second highest-selling SNES game, no less) to be a good game in the same post.
27th Jun '16 10:03:22 AM IamTheCaligula
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* This is the reason why ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' has such massive, intricate {{fanon}}, as when series creator ZUN isn't being [[ShrugOfGod deliberately obtuse]], [[TeasingCreator speaking in riddles]], [[TrollingCreator messing with his fans]] or [[LyingCreator outright lying]] he changes his mind at the drop of his NiceHat. For just [[RuleOfThree three]] examples, he can barely keep the characters' eye and hair colors from changing between games, talked at length about how ''Touhou'' "is not a series" which ended with him admitting that it is a series after all, and reports on whether or not youkai have stopped eating people are wildly contradictory (one states it never happens, one states it is a constant concern for the human inhabitants of Gensoukyou, and another states it is only a concern for those ''outside'' of Gensoukyou). ZUN sort of covers for this tendency by making having his [[AllThereInTheManual supplemental materials]] come from {{Unreliable Narrator}}s. It's not the author that's wrong, it's the characters!

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* This is the reason why ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' has such massive, intricate {{fanon}}, as when series creator ZUN isn't being [[ShrugOfGod deliberately obtuse]], [[TeasingCreator speaking in riddles]], [[TrollingCreator messing with his fans]] or [[LyingCreator outright lying]] lying]], he changes his mind at the drop of his NiceHat. For just [[RuleOfThree three]] examples, he can barely keep the characters' eye and hair colors from changing between games, talked at length about how ''Touhou'' "is not a series" which ended with him admitting that it is a series after all, and reports on whether or not youkai have stopped eating people are wildly contradictory (one states it never happens, one states it is a constant concern for the human inhabitants of Gensoukyou, and another states it is only a concern for those ''outside'' of Gensoukyou). ZUN sort of covers for this tendency by making having his [[AllThereInTheManual supplemental materials]] come from {{Unreliable Narrator}}s. It's not the author that's wrong, it's the characters!
27th Jun '16 10:02:06 AM IamTheCaligula
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* This is the reason why ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' has such massive, intricate {{fanon}}, as when series creator ZUN isn't being [[ShrugOfGod deliberately obtuse]] he changes his mind at the drop of his NiceHat. For just [[RuleOfThree three]] examples, he can barely keep the characters' eye and hair colors from changing between games, has stated both "''Touhou'' series" and "''Touhou'' is not a series" on different occasions, and reports on whether or not youkai have stopped eating people are wildly contradictory (one states it never happens, one states it is a constant concern for the human inhabitants of Gensoukyou and another states it is only a concern for those ''outside'' of Gensoukyou). ZUN sort of covers for this tendency by making having his [[AllThereInTheManual supplemental materials]] come from {{Unreliable Narrator}}s. It's not the author that's wrong, it's the characters!

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* This is the reason why ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' has such massive, intricate {{fanon}}, as when series creator ZUN isn't being [[ShrugOfGod deliberately obtuse]] obtuse]], [[TeasingCreator speaking in riddles]], [[TrollingCreator messing with his fans]] or [[LyingCreator outright lying]] he changes his mind at the drop of his NiceHat. For just [[RuleOfThree three]] examples, he can barely keep the characters' eye and hair colors from changing between games, has stated both "''Touhou'' series" and "''Touhou'' is talked at length about how ''Touhou'' "is not a series" on different occasions, which ended with him admitting that it is a series after all, and reports on whether or not youkai have stopped eating people are wildly contradictory (one states it never happens, one states it is a constant concern for the human inhabitants of Gensoukyou Gensoukyou, and another states it is only a concern for those ''outside'' of Gensoukyou). ZUN sort of covers for this tendency by making having his [[AllThereInTheManual supplemental materials]] come from {{Unreliable Narrator}}s. It's not the author that's wrong, it's the characters!
18th Jun '16 3:51:52 PM Anicomicgeek
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* Creator/MarkHamill once said that ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum'' would be the last time he would reprise his ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' role as SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker. Then he came back for ''VideoGame/DCUniverseOnline'' and ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'', and said that the latter would be his last time unless ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke'' got an AnimatedAdaptation. He seemed to make good on this, with Creator/RichardEpcar from ''VideoGame/MortalKombatVsDCUniverse'' stepping in for ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' and ''VideoGame/InfiniteCrisis'', and Creator/TroyBaker in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins'', ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOriginsBlackgate'' and ''WesternAnimation/BatmanAssaultOnArkham'', despite the presence of Creator/KevinConroy in most of those projects.[[note]]Creator/RogerCraigSmith filled in for him in ''Origins'' and ''Blackgate''[[/note]] [[spoiler: "Seemed to" as despite ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' opening with the character's cremation, he reprised the role in flashbacks and hallucinations.]] Then not only does he indeed reprise the role for the [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheKillingJoke animated adaptation]] of ''The Killing Joke'', he [[http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/conroy-hamill-return-justice-league-action-cartoon-network goes around and reprises the role for]] ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueAction''.

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Creator/MarkHamill once said that ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum'' would be the last time he would reprise his ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' role as SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker. Then he came back for ''VideoGame/DCUniverseOnline'' and ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'', and said that the latter would be his last time unless ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke'' got an AnimatedAdaptation. He seemed to make good on this, with Creator/RichardEpcar from ''VideoGame/MortalKombatVsDCUniverse'' stepping in for ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' and ''VideoGame/InfiniteCrisis'', and Creator/TroyBaker in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins'', ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOriginsBlackgate'' and ''WesternAnimation/BatmanAssaultOnArkham'', despite the presence of Creator/KevinConroy in most of those projects.[[note]]Creator/RogerCraigSmith filled in for him in ''Origins'' and ''Blackgate''[[/note]] [[spoiler: "Seemed to" as despite ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' opening with the character's cremation, he reprised the role in flashbacks and hallucinations.]] Then not only does he indeed reprise the role for the [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheKillingJoke animated adaptation]] of ''The Killing Joke'', he [[http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/conroy-hamill-return-justice-league-action-cartoon-network goes around and reprises the role for]] ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueAction''.''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueAction''.
** Rocksteady Studios had said that ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' would be the GrandFinale of the series as far as they're taking it and they were done with the series. One of the first games announced for the Playstation VR? ''Batman: Arkham VR''? Who's making it? Rocksteady.
12th Jun '16 4:44:11 PM DarkPhoenix94
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* Creator/NimbusLlewelyn, author of ''Fanfic/TheWizardInTheShadows'' and ''Fanfic/ChildOfTheStorm'' is prone to this - something stated in an A/N can and will be contradicted ten chapters later. Since despite his justified claims of a grand plan and littering his stories with the contents of ChekhovsArmoury, he's noted a tendency towards [[WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants making up many of the fine details - and some major characters - as he goes along]], most notably in the latter story. Early on, he said that the story would pretty closely follow the ''Literature/HarryPotter'' books and be around 150,000 words, in line with ''Shadows'', his previous long form project. It is now 780,000 words long, longer than the first five Harry Potter books ''combined'' and has fairly significantly deviated from the books.
** Another claim was that Harry would be definitively paired with Ginny Weasley, before stating that Harry would date other people, then eventually saying that he'd 'written himself out of a corner' on that score and Harry and Ginny wouldn't be dating at all.
1st Jun '16 9:56:01 AM Edrobot
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* The developers of ''{{VideoGame/Terraria}}'' stated back in May 2014 that version 1.2.4 would be the last update that adds new features to the game. Apparently they changed their mind, as June 2015 saw the release of Version 1.3.
27th May '16 5:10:30 PM nombretomado
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* The ''VideoGame/{{Rayman}}'' series has been flip-flopping for ''years'' as to whether or not the title character's signature floating limbs are one-of-a-kind or not. In the original ''Rayman'' game, all characters in Rayman's world had floating limbs, and Rayman himself was nothing special. In [[VideoGame/{{Rayman 2}} the sequel]], however, save for his EvilTwin, Rayman was explicitly stated to be one of a kind, because he was created by the fairies who had their own mysterious ideas. Then ''VideoGame/RaymanOrigins'' came along, and said his limblessness was an accident. Until the PlayStationVita version, which suggested that there'd been [[AdamAndEvePlot at least one other (female) limbless person.]] And then ''VideoGame/RaymanLegends'' comes along, and the alternate Rayman costumes are strongly implied to be different characters--including one inspired by the "Tarayazan" character from the first game.

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* The ''VideoGame/{{Rayman}}'' series has been flip-flopping for ''years'' as to whether or not the title character's signature floating limbs are one-of-a-kind or not. In the original ''Rayman'' game, all characters in Rayman's world had floating limbs, and Rayman himself was nothing special. In [[VideoGame/{{Rayman 2}} the sequel]], however, save for his EvilTwin, Rayman was explicitly stated to be one of a kind, because he was created by the fairies who had their own mysterious ideas. Then ''VideoGame/RaymanOrigins'' came along, and said his limblessness was an accident. Until the PlayStationVita UsefulNotes/PlayStationVita version, which suggested that there'd been [[AdamAndEvePlot at least one other (female) limbless person.]] And then ''VideoGame/RaymanLegends'' comes along, and the alternate Rayman costumes are strongly implied to be different characters--including one inspired by the "Tarayazan" character from the first game.
26th May '16 12:52:06 PM Willbyr
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* In an interview about ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'', the writer said that [[spoiler:Junpei would spend the rest of his life searching for Akane, but would never find her]]. This was before a sequel was planned, however. At the end of the [[VirtuesLastReward sequel]], it's revealed that [[spoiler:Junpei actually does find Akane, decades into the future. But, as he muses, she's not the person he once knew: "The Akane I knew died long ago." The original quote isn't strictly true, but [[MetaphoricallyTrue from a certain point of view...]]]]

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* In an interview about ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'', the writer said that [[spoiler:Junpei would spend the rest of his life searching for Akane, but would never find her]]. This was before a sequel was planned, however. At the end of the [[VirtuesLastReward [[VisualNovel/VirtuesLastReward sequel]], it's revealed that [[spoiler:Junpei actually does find Akane, decades into the future. But, as he muses, she's not the person he once knew: "The Akane I knew died long ago." The original quote isn't strictly true, but [[MetaphoricallyTrue from a certain point of view...]]]]
23rd May '16 9:32:23 AM highwaystonowhere
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