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14th Apr '16 6:01:54 AM WarriorSparrow
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* In a more unusual case of this trope, for ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddparents'', creator Butch Hartman said that when it came to Timmy's two children Tommy and Tammy from ''WesternAnimation/ChannelChasers'''s DistantFinale that their mother is supposed to be [[AmbiguousSituation ambiguous]]. However, come ''LiveActionTV/AFairlyOddMovieGrowUpTimmyTurner'', this has been changed from "ambiguous" to pretty much "Tommy and Tammy Turner no longer exist at all since that ending has been retconned by the live-action movies". Basically, he changed the answer of the identity of Tommy and Tammy's mother to "[[CanonDiscontinuity no one]]".

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* In a more unusual case of this trope, for ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddparents'', creator Butch Hartman said that when it came to Timmy's two children Tommy and Tammy from ''WesternAnimation/ChannelChasers'''s DistantFinale that their mother is supposed to be [[AmbiguousSituation ambiguous]]. However, come ''LiveActionTV/AFairlyOddMovieGrowUpTimmyTurner'', this has been changed from "ambiguous" to pretty much "Tommy and Tammy Turner no longer exist at all since that ending has been retconned by the live-action movies". Basically, he changed the answer of the identity of Tommy and Tammy's mother to "[[CanonDiscontinuity no one]]".one]]", which is why most fans have declared FanonDiscontinuity on the live-action films.
13th Apr '16 8:33:48 AM ooh
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* The writers of ''Film/{{Idiocracy}}'' have stated multiple times that they did not intend to write ''Idiocracy'' as satire on the decreasing intelligence of mankind. Nearly 10 years after the film was released, the writers changed their mind about that on [[https://twitter.com/etanjc/status/702545314733895680 Twitter]] after events leading to the 2016 U.S. Presidential election, such as the massive accidental poisoning of water and plants for money, high votes for a racist and elitist Trump and general success of sharing half-truths among the population makes them agree with the fans on how [[NightmareFuel their movie actually is coming true]].

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* The writers of ''Film/{{Idiocracy}}'' have stated multiple times that they did the film was not intend to write ''Idiocracy'' intended as satire on the decreasing intelligence of mankind. Nearly 10 years after the film was released, the writers changed their mind about that on [[https://twitter.com/etanjc/status/702545314733895680 Twitter]] after events leading to the 2016 U.S. Presidential election, such as the massive accidental poisoning of water and plants for money, high votes for a racist and elitist Trump and general success of sharing half-truths among the population makes them agree with the fans on how [[NightmareFuel their movie actually is coming true]].
24th Mar '16 11:21:10 AM Morgenthaler
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* BretEastonEllis, the author of ''AmericanPsycho,'' can't ever decide if Patrick Bateman was a SerialKiller or of his killing spree was made up in his twisted mind. In the novel it's intentionally left ambiguous.

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* BretEastonEllis, Creator/BretEastonEllis, the author of ''AmericanPsycho,'' ''Literature/AmericanPsycho,'' can't ever decide if Patrick Bateman was a SerialKiller or of his killing spree was made up in his twisted mind. In the novel it's intentionally left ambiguous.



* In the ''{{Discworld}}'', Creator/TerryPratchett gets around this issue by arguing that there can be such things as alternate ''pasts''. Alternate pasts in the Discworld include;

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* In the ''{{Discworld}}'', ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'', Creator/TerryPratchett gets around this issue by arguing that there can be such things as alternate ''pasts''. Alternate pasts in the Discworld include;



* Creator/StephenKing famously dislikes the StanleyKubrick film version of Film/TheShining, as he considers JackNicholson's portrayal of Jack Torrance to have been too crazy and unsympathetic from the start. Yet King has also said that [[Literature/TheShining the original novel]] was written as something of a confession, in which King was dealing with his own alcoholism and his occasional desire to hurt his children. The novel in fact portrays Torrance as deeply troubled from the beginning, although there is certainly more of a tragic descent in the novel than in the film. It seems King's own perspective on his semi-autobiographical character changed in the years after his "confessional" writing of Literature/TheShining, and he now prefers Torrance's character to be viewed more sympathetically.

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* Creator/StephenKing famously dislikes the StanleyKubrick Creator/StanleyKubrick film version of Film/TheShining, as he considers JackNicholson's Creator/JackNicholson's portrayal of Jack Torrance to have been too crazy and unsympathetic from the start. Yet King has also said that [[Literature/TheShining the original novel]] was written as something of a confession, in which King was dealing with his own alcoholism and his occasional desire to hurt his children. The novel in fact portrays Torrance as deeply troubled from the beginning, although there is certainly more of a tragic descent in the novel than in the film. It seems King's own perspective on his semi-autobiographical character changed in the years after his "confessional" writing of Literature/TheShining, and he now prefers Torrance's character to be viewed more sympathetically.
11th Mar '16 9:11:44 AM MJTR
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** Considering Cecil himself is white haired in all games, promotional material and even the remake's intro movie, but is blonde in-game, it is perhaps better to just assume all other sources are canon and the remake just partook in an adaptational dye job.
6th Mar '16 10:56:34 AM Josef5678
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* The writers of ''Film/{{Idiocracy}}'' have stated multiple times that they did not intend to write ''Idiocracy'' as satire on the decreasing intelligence of mankind. Nearly 10 years after the film was released, the writers changed their mind about that on [[https://twitter.com/etanjc/status/702545314733895680 Twitter]] after events leading to the 2016 U.S. Presidential election, such as the massive accidental poisoning of water and plants for money, high votes for a racist and elitist Trump and general success of sharing half-truths among the population makes them agree with the fans on how [[NightmareFuel their movie actually is coming true]].
29th Feb '16 6:54:39 AM StFan
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** the Vetinari paradox - Vetinari is explicitly stated to have been the Patrician of the first novel, ''TheColourOfMagic''. But over the books the Patrician evolves into a long, thin, extremely abstemious man who believes a slice of bread and a glass of boiled water are a sufficiency. In the first book, the Patrician is a vastly overweight glutton. in a subsequent early novel ''{{Mort}}'', the Patrician throws riotous drunken parties and keeps a swamp-dragon as a pet - again out of character for Vetinari.

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** the The Vetinari paradox - -- Vetinari is explicitly stated to have been the Patrician of the first novel, ''TheColourOfMagic''.''Discworld/TheColourOfMagic''. But over the books the Patrician evolves into a long, thin, extremely abstemious man who believes a slice of bread and a glass of boiled water are a sufficiency. In the first book, the Patrician is a vastly overweight glutton. in In a subsequent early novel ''{{Mort}}'', ''Discworld/{{Mort}}'', the Patrician throws riotous drunken parties and keeps a swamp-dragon as a pet - -- again out of character for Vetinari.



** The Arch-Chancellor's Hat is a major plot-point in the early novel ''{{Sourcery}}'' along with the head wearing it. Here it is presumed utterly destroyed in a magical war. Whilst Coin the sourceror faithfully tries to "put things back as they were" he does not resurrect wizards killed in that war - presumably their magical impedimentia died with them. Yet it re-appears as a plot-point thirty or so books later in ''Unseen Academicals''.

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** The Arch-Chancellor's Hat is a major plot-point in the early novel ''{{Sourcery}}'' ''Discworld/{{Sourcery}}'' along with the head wearing it. Here it is presumed utterly destroyed in a magical war. Whilst Coin the sourceror faithfully tries to "put things back as they were" he does not resurrect wizards killed in that war - -- presumably their magical impedimentia died with them. Yet it re-appears as a plot-point thirty or so books later in ''Unseen Academicals''.''Discworld/UnseenAcademicals''.






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22nd Feb '16 5:33:21 AM PF
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But sometimes, the Word of God can't quite make up its mind what to say. Maybe the creator hasn't decided what the right answer is, or [[BellisariosMaxim the audience asked them a question they didn't think they'd have to answer at all]]. Maybe they actually changed their mind sometime after they gave the original answer. Sometimes, it's simply that they're a LyingCreator. Or the "creator" is actually a series of ghost writers as in some franchise series and DependingOnTheWriter don't do a great job of keeping the character consistent. Either way, a Flip Flop of God is when the Word of God contradicts itself somehow. The fundamental unreliability this reveals -- any creator, at any time, might commit this -- can be considered an argument in favor of the DeathOfTheAuthor.

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But sometimes, Sometimes, however, the Word of God can't quite make up its mind what to say. Maybe the creator hasn't decided what the right answer is, or [[BellisariosMaxim the audience asked them a question they didn't think they'd have to answer at all]]. Maybe they actually changed their mind sometime after they gave the original answer. Sometimes, it's simply that they're a LyingCreator. Or the "creator" is actually a series of ghost writers as in some franchise series and DependingOnTheWriter don't do a great job of keeping the character consistent. Either way, a Flip Flop of God is when the Word of God contradicts itself somehow. The fundamental unreliability this reveals -- any creator, at any time, might commit this -- can be considered an argument in favor of the DeathOfTheAuthor.
11th Feb '16 1:30:08 PM Pichu-kun
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* ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'' was referred to as the final Franchise/DisneyPrincess film prior to release. That obviously ended up not happening--and probably for the best as the follow up princess film, ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', ended up as their biggest animated film to date and has become a CashCowFranchise.
31st Jan '16 10:29:28 AM Sunflorazumarill
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* Creator/MarkHamill once said that ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum'' would be the last time he would reprise his ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' role as SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker. Then he came back for ''VideoGame/DCUniverseOnline'' and ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'', and said that the latter would be his last time unless ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke'' got an AnimatedAdaptation. He seemed to make good on this, with Creator/RichardEpcar from ''VideoGame/MortalKombatVsDCUniverse'' stepping in for ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' and ''VideoGame/InfiniteCrisis'', and Creator/TroyBaker in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins'', ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOriginsBlackgate'' and ''WesternAnimation/BatmanAssaultOnArkham'', despite the presence of Creator/KevinConroy in most of those projects.[[note]]Creator/RogerCraigSmith filled in for him in ''Origins'' and ''Blackgate''[[/note]] [[spoiler: "Seemed to" as despite ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' opening with the character's cremation, he reprised the role in flashbacks and hallucinations.]] Then he [http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/conroy-hamill-return-justice-league-action-cartoon-network goes around and reprises the role for]] ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueAction''.

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* Creator/MarkHamill once said that ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum'' would be the last time he would reprise his ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' role as SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker. Then he came back for ''VideoGame/DCUniverseOnline'' and ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'', and said that the latter would be his last time unless ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke'' got an AnimatedAdaptation. He seemed to make good on this, with Creator/RichardEpcar from ''VideoGame/MortalKombatVsDCUniverse'' stepping in for ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' and ''VideoGame/InfiniteCrisis'', and Creator/TroyBaker in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins'', ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOriginsBlackgate'' and ''WesternAnimation/BatmanAssaultOnArkham'', despite the presence of Creator/KevinConroy in most of those projects.[[note]]Creator/RogerCraigSmith filled in for him in ''Origins'' and ''Blackgate''[[/note]] [[spoiler: "Seemed to" as despite ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' opening with the character's cremation, he reprised the role in flashbacks and hallucinations.]] Then he [http://www.[[http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/conroy-hamill-return-justice-league-action-cartoon-network goes around and reprises the role for]] ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueAction''.
29th Jan '16 4:54:45 PM Anicomicgeek
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* Creator/MarkHamill once said that ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum'' would be the last time he would reprise his ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' role as SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker. Then he came back for ''VideoGame/DCUniverseOnline'' and ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'', and said that the latter would be his last time unless ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke'' got an AnimatedAdaptation. He seemed to make good on this, with Creator/RichardEpcar from ''VideoGame/MortalKombatVsDCUniverse'' stepping in for ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' and ''VideoGame/InfiniteCrisis'', and Creator/TroyBaker in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins'', ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOriginsBlackgate'' and ''WesternAnimation/BatmanAssaultOnArkham'', despite the presence of Creator/KevinConroy in most of those projects.[[note]]Creator/RogerCraigSmith filled in for him in ''Origins'' and ''Blackgate''[[/note]] [[spoiler: "Seemed to" as despite ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' opening with the character's cremation, he reprised the role in flashbacks and hallucinations.]]

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* Creator/MarkHamill once said that ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum'' would be the last time he would reprise his ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' role as SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker. Then he came back for ''VideoGame/DCUniverseOnline'' and ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'', and said that the latter would be his last time unless ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke'' got an AnimatedAdaptation. He seemed to make good on this, with Creator/RichardEpcar from ''VideoGame/MortalKombatVsDCUniverse'' stepping in for ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' and ''VideoGame/InfiniteCrisis'', and Creator/TroyBaker in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins'', ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOriginsBlackgate'' and ''WesternAnimation/BatmanAssaultOnArkham'', despite the presence of Creator/KevinConroy in most of those projects.[[note]]Creator/RogerCraigSmith filled in for him in ''Origins'' and ''Blackgate''[[/note]] [[spoiler: "Seemed to" as despite ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' opening with the character's cremation, he reprised the role in flashbacks and hallucinations.]]]] Then he [http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/conroy-hamill-return-justice-league-action-cartoon-network goes around and reprises the role for]] ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueAction''.
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