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25th Sep '16 9:15:28 AM Steven
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* Happens to a number of recurring characters in ''Franchise/AceAttorney''. The Judge seems to get dumber and become more of a {{Cloudcuckoolander}} every game, as does Gumshoe (though ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'' dialed the Judge's ditziness back a little). Additionally, Larry progressively becomes more of a loser, and Wendy Oldbag becomes more of a {{jerkass}} [[AbhorrentAdmirer unrepentant stalker]] with every appearance.

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* Happens to a number of recurring characters in ''Franchise/AceAttorney''. The Judge seems to get dumber and become more of a {{Cloudcuckoolander}} every game, as does Gumshoe (though ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'' dialed the Judge's ditziness back a little). Additionally, Larry progressively becomes more of a loser, and Wendy Oldbag becomes more of a {{jerkass}} [[AbhorrentAdmirer unrepentant stalker]] with every appearance. Winston Payne, a prosecutor who is meek and easily intimidated, became much more arrogant while also becoming a lot more spineless in later games. His brother, Gaspen Payne, takes these traits UpToEleven with a mix of {{Jerkass}} in the 3D installments.
21st Sep '16 9:15:52 PM CountDorku
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* In ''Webcomic/EightBitTheater'', this happens to at least three characters. Black Mage goes from merely sadistic and murderous to a full-on OmnicidalManiac, Fighter goes from being gullible and dim to being stupider than the furnishings (although given the number of times he's been stabbed in the head this may technically constitute CharacterDevelopment), and King Steve goes from incompetent and callous to being a crazed tyrant who acts entirely at random.
21st Sep '16 7:19:22 AM LaszloZapacik
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* The Bible:
** In early versions of Biblical texts, Goliath was said to be about 6 feet 9 inches tall - far above average, but still a perfectly plausible height for a human being. In later versions, Goliath was inflated to a kind a freakish giant well over 9 feet tall, taller than the tallest human ever recorded.
13th Sep '16 5:14:41 PM Jacob175
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* Happens to a number of recurring characters in ''Franchise/AceAttorney''. The Judge seems to get dumber and become more of a {{Cloudcuckoolander}} every game, as does Gumshoe (though ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'' dialed the Judge's ditziness back a little). Additionally, Larry progressively becomes more of a loser, and Wendy Oldbag becomes more of a {{jerkass}} [[AbhorrentAdmirer unrepentant stalker]] with every appearance.



* Happens to a number of recurring characters in ''Franchise/AceAttorney''. The Judge seems to get dumber and become more of a {{Cloudcuckoolander}} every game, as does Gumshoe (though ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'' dialed the Judge's ditziness back a little). Additionally, Larry progressively becomes more of a loser, and Wendy Oldbag becomes more of a {{jerkass}} [[AbhorrentAdmirer unrepentant stalker]] with every appearance.



* Pretty much everyone on Webcomic/BobAndGeorge. Mega Man and Bass go from being a bit ditzy and out-there to having full disconnects from reality, Dr. Light goes from being a competent though slightly uncaring scientist to being a vaguely insane drunk, Bob goes from a jerkass to an omnicidal maniac willing to destroy the universe he's in because it's there, and George goes from having a few issues with the casual use of violence to solve an issues to being a full-on Straw Pacifist.



* ''Webcomic/GrimTalesFromDownBelow'' has Grim, the personification of death, speaking in a slightly garbled manner in the beginning but it begins to get more and more difficult to understand as the story moves on.



* ''WebComic/GirlGenius'' has two cases, both in-universe:
** Punch is one of the legendary heroes that had helped the infamous Heterodyne Boys and was a competent and friendly fighter. Pretty much every story of the Heterodyne Boys has reduced him to the ButtMonkey and Comic Relief. When Jägermonsters who had ''met'' him try to fix it, the actors doing a play about him are not pleased. Amusingly, Agatha comes to realize she knows Punch and he is indeed nothing like the story-version of himself.
** Klaus is the feared emperor and dictator of Europe, having tight control over it and ruling with an Iron Fist. Yet whenever he appears in stories and plays within the Heterodyne stories, he usually ends up as a bragger, a coward, a ButtMonkey or all of these. The only reason why the storytellers and actors keep their heads is because he [[ActuallyPrettyFunny finds them hilarious]].
* ''Webcomic/GrimTalesFromDownBelow'' has Grim, the personification of death, speaking in a slightly garbled manner in the beginning but it begins to get more and more difficult to understand as the story moves on.



* Defied and discussed in ''Webcomic/ManlyGuysDoingManlyThings''. [[VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins Sten]] gets tired of the cookie jokes ''[[BerserkButton real]]'' [[BerserkButton fast.]]



* ''WebComic/MuhPhoenix'': Almost everybody. Comicbook/ScarletWitch really resents that people only remember her for depowering the mutants and being {{Robosexual}}.



* Webcomic/PennyArcade has two main characters, both pretty heavily Flanderized. Tycho went from a slightly meaner than normal, slightly smarter than normal person with some issues to a psychotic genius with an abused past and a fetish for long-necked animals like giraffes. By contrast, Gabe went from being "Not as smart as Tycho" to being portrayed as stupid enough to glue his hands to his face and not quite understand how children are made (as a 30-something man WITH A CHILD at this point). On the other hand, the characters were somewhat bland and interchangeable in the earliest days, so this ended up making them more distinguishable.
* Inverted in ''WebComic/{{Precocious}}'' (sort of). Most of the minor characters are introduced pre-Flanderized. Played straight, however, for Shii Ann Hu. Mentioned by trope name in the alt-text for [[http://www.precociouscomic.com/archive/comic/2009/10/31 strip 237]].



** Hannelore, shortly after her first appearance, mentioned that she had severe OCD. Over time, she developed more and more quirks and phobias to the point of being essentially a female [[Series/{{Monk}} Adrian Monk]] (she even had a "sex" dream about him, where they cleaned together in the nude). It wasn't long before they had to HandWave the fact that she even has piercings, and the circumstances of her first appearance -- loitering in a public restroom, smoking and nonchalantly talking to a ''man'' peeing in the sink -- have become absolutely inconceivable. (In fact she wins a massive bet with her wealthy mother by simply agreeing to briefly touch the toilet in a public restroom!) The problems had to be explained in Comic 1046, where Hannelore [[spoiler: reveals she's always had these problems; it just varies by the drugs she takes.]]

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** Hannelore, shortly after her first appearance, mentioned that she had severe OCD. Over time, she developed more and more quirks and phobias to the point of being essentially a female [[Series/{{Monk}} Adrian Monk]] (she even had a "sex" dream about him, where they cleaned together in the nude). It wasn't long before they had to HandWave the fact that she even has piercings, and the circumstances of her first appearance -- loitering in a public restroom, smoking and nonchalantly talking to a ''man'' peeing in the sink -- have become absolutely inconceivable. (In fact she wins a massive bet with her wealthy mother by simply agreeing to briefly touch the toilet in a public restroom!) The problems had to be explained in Comic 1046, where Hannelore [[spoiler: reveals [[spoiler:reveals she's always had these problems; it just varies by the drugs she takes.]]



* Inverted in ''WebComic/{{Precocious}}'' (sort of). Most of the minor characters are introduced pre-Flanderized. Played straight, however, for Shii Ann Hu. Mentioned by trope name in the alt-text for [[http://www.precociouscomic.com/archive/comic/2009/10/31 strip 237]].



* Defied and discussed in ''Webcomic/ManlyGuysDoingManlyThings''. [[VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins Sten]] gets tired of the cookie jokes ''[[BerserkButton real]]'' [[BerserkButton fast.]]
* ''WebComic/MuhPhoenix'': Almost everybody. Comicbook/ScarletWitch really resents that people only remember her for depowering the mutants and being {{Robosexual}}.
* ''WebComic/GirlGenius'' has two cases:
** Punch is one of the legendary heroes that had helped the infamous Heterodyne Boys and was a competent and friendly fighter. Pretty much every story of the Heterodyne Boys has reduced him to the ButtMonkey and Comic Relief. When Jägermonsters who had ''met'' him try to fix it, the actors doing a play about him are not pleased. Amusingly, Agatha comes to realize she knows Punch and he is indeed nothing like the story-version of himself.
** Klaus is the feared emperor and dictator of Europe, having tight control over it and ruling with an Iron Fist. Yet whenever he appears in stories and plays within the Heterodyne stories, he ususally ends up as a bragger, a coward, a ButtMonkey or all of these. The only reason why the storytellers and actors keep their heads is because he [[ActuallyPrettyFunny finds them hilarious]].
* Penny Arcade has two main characters, both pretty heavily Flanderized. Tycho went from a slightly meaner than normal, slightly smarter than normal person with some issues to a psychotic genius with an abused past and a fetish for giraffes. By contrast, Gabe went from being "Not as smart as Tycho" to being portrayed as stupid enough to glue his hands to his face and not quite understand how children are made (as a 30-something man WITH A CHILD at this point).
* Pretty much everyone on Bob and George. Megaman and Bass go from being a bit ditzy and out-there to having full disconnects from reality, Dr. Light goes from being a competent though slightly uncaring scientist to being a vaguely insane drunk, Bob goes from a jerkass to an omnicidal maniac willing to destroy the universe he's in because it's there, and George goes from having a few issues with the casual use of violence to solve an issues to being a full-on Straw Pacifist.



* ''GamingGarbage'' hosts [[Website/SomethingAwful Rich "Lowtax" Kyanka]] and [[WebAnimation/TheFlashTub Dave "Shmorky" Kelly"]] started out utilizing {{deadpan|snarker}}, casual deliveries before Lowtax [[LargeHam took several levels in ham]] and Shmorky settled into a hyper-effeminate {{Uke}} personality with a frail, high-pitched voice.

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* ''GamingGarbage'' ''LetsPlayGamingGarbage'' hosts [[Website/SomethingAwful Rich "Lowtax" Kyanka]] and [[WebAnimation/TheFlashTub Dave "Shmorky" Kelly"]] started out utilizing {{deadpan|snarker}}, casual deliveries before Lowtax [[LargeHam took several levels in ham]] and Shmorky settled into a hyper-effeminate {{Uke}} personality with a frail, high-pitched voice.
29th Aug '16 7:34:47 AM tm122
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* Music/RedHotChiliPeppers had success with ballads, and then did so many that they inevitably became bland and predictable.

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* Music/RedHotChiliPeppers tends to get Flanderized by detractors as always singing about California. Their [[WordSaladLyrics jumbled lyrics]] also are exaggerated, as has their [[PrettyFlyforaWhiteGuy white boy rap]] which Anthony Keidis has largely avoided the past 15 years. AVClub tends to portray them as nigh-unintelligible horndogs.
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had success with ballads, and then did so many that they inevitably became bland and predictable.
26th Aug '16 11:31:14 AM ReaderAt2046
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* Estee's ''FanFic/TriptychContinuum'' features a kind of In-Universe version of this with ''falling into the mark'', an extremely common psychological disorder among ponies where the pony allows their special talent to dominate their lives to the point where there is ''nothing'' outside the mark.
** And turned horrifyingly UpToEleven in ''A Mark Of Appeal'', with the discovery of a disease that amplifies the mark magic until it renders the pony unable to do or think of anything that is not the exercise of their talent.
15th Aug '16 2:30:36 PM MewLettuceRush
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* A {{Jerkass}} becomes much meaner and nastier, perhaps even behaving more like a villain.

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* A {{Jerkass}} becomes much meaner and nastier, perhaps even behaving more like a villain.villain, becoming a DesignatedHero in the worst cases.
18th Jul '16 6:29:25 AM Morgenthaler
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* The EvilOverlordList and its additional points. Just look at it! DangerouslyGenreSavvy doesn't even cover it.

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* The EvilOverlordList and its additional points. Just look at it! DangerouslyGenreSavvy GenreSavvy doesn't even cover it.
2nd Jul '16 10:09:16 PM sinndogg
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** Interestingly, in the 2012 audio drama ''Chosen of Khorne'', Khârn the Betrayer - who is often considered to be the most AxCrazy of all of Khorne's mortal servants in ''Warhammer 40,000'' - was significantly de-flanderized. He's quite level-headed outside of combat, despite being prone to violent visions and impulses, and even refuses to harm non-combatants (so long as they [[BerserkButton don't touch his axe]]). It's also revealed that [[spoiler: he's been killing off the remnants of the World Eaters' Pre-Heresy command structure in a bid to reunite the Legion under his own banner]]. Hardly the MO of a frothing, myopic lunatic.

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** Interestingly, in the 2012 audio drama ''Chosen of Khorne'', Khârn the Betrayer - who is often considered to be the most AxCrazy of all of Khorne's mortal servants in ''Warhammer 40,000'' - was significantly de-flanderized. He's quite level-headed outside of combat, despite being prone to violent visions and impulses, and even refuses to harm non-combatants (so long as they [[BerserkButton don't touch his axe]]). It's also revealed that [[spoiler: he's been killing off the remnants of the World Eaters' Pre-Heresy command structure in a bid to reunite the Legion under his own banner]]. Hardly banner]], which is hardly the MO of a frothing, myopic lunatic.
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