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12th Jun '18 11:07:27 AM Asherinka
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** ''ComicBook/{{Loki}}'' becomes somewhat of a caricature of himself in ''Film/ThorRagnarok''. Though he had {{chronic backstabbing disorder}} in the first two Thor movies and ''The Avengers'', this trait are taken {{up to eleven}} in the last film. Whereas before, [[TheUsurper his efforts to take the throne from Thor]] or [[AlienInvasion invade some other realm to gain a different throne]] were motivated by a combination of revenge, envy, and wanting to gain his father's approval, in ''Thor Ragnarok'', he is so desperate for power that he [[spoiler: begins plotting to overthrow the ruler of a planet he has never been to before immediately after he lands.]]
12th Jun '18 10:55:06 AM Asherinka
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** ''ComicBook/{{Loki}}'' becomes somewhat of a caricature of himself in ''Film/ThorRagnarok''. Though he had {{chronic backstabbing disorder}} in the first two Thor movies and ''The Avengers'', this trait are taken {{up to eleven}} in the last film. Whereas before, [[TheUsurper his efforts to take the throne from Thor]] or [[AlienInvasion invade some other realm to gain a different throne]] were motivated by a combination of revenge, envy, and wanting to gain his father's approval, in ''Thor Ragnarok'', he is so desperate for power that he [[spoiler: begins plotting to overthrow the ruler of a planet he has never been to before immediately after he lands. He also betrays Thor again because doing so might help him take over this planet in the future, telling Thor as he does so that his betrayal isn't personal. This is a contrast to previous movies, [[CainAndAbel where his betrayals of Thor]] were [[DisproportionateRetribution always personal]], and he had a habit of getting [[ManlyTears very upset while fighting his brother]], even if he was in the middle of trying to stab him.]]

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** ''ComicBook/{{Loki}}'' becomes somewhat of a caricature of himself in ''Film/ThorRagnarok''. Though he had {{chronic backstabbing disorder}} in the first two Thor movies and ''The Avengers'', this trait are taken {{up to eleven}} in the last film. Whereas before, [[TheUsurper his efforts to take the throne from Thor]] or [[AlienInvasion invade some other realm to gain a different throne]] were motivated by a combination of revenge, envy, and wanting to gain his father's approval, in ''Thor Ragnarok'', he is so desperate for power that he [[spoiler: begins plotting to overthrow the ruler of a planet he has never been to before immediately after he lands. He also betrays Thor again because doing so might help him take over this planet in the future, telling Thor as he does so that his betrayal isn't personal. This is a contrast to previous movies, [[CainAndAbel where his betrayals of Thor]] were [[DisproportionateRetribution always personal]], and he had a habit of getting [[ManlyTears very upset while fighting his brother]], even if he was in the middle of trying to stab him.]]
12th Jun '18 2:49:23 AM Asherinka
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** ''ComicBook/{{Loki}}'' becomes somewhat of a caricature of himself in ''Film/ThorRagnarok''. Though he had {{chronic backstabbing disorder}} and [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex an overblown need for people to worship him]] in the first two Thor movies and ''The Avengers'', these traits are taken {{up to eleven}} in the last film. Whereas before, [[TheUsurper his efforts to take the throne from Thor]] or [[AlienInvasion invade some other realm to gain a different throne]] were motivated by a combination of revenge, envy, and wanting to gain his father's approval, in ''Thor Ragnarok'', he is so desperate for power that he [[spoiler: begins plotting to overthrow the ruler of a planet he has never been to before immediately after he lands. He also betrays Thor again because doing so might help him take over this planet in the future, telling Thor as he does so that his betrayal isn't personal. This is a contrast to previous movies, [[CainAndAbel where his betrayals of Thor]] were [[DisproportionateRetribution always personal]], and he had a habit of getting [[ManlyTears very upset while fighting his brother]], even if he was in the middle of trying to stab him.]] Additionally, while before his need to be worshipped resulted in a few {{kneel before Zod}} moments when he was trying to take over Earth, he acted relatively normal when around fellow Asgardians and not {{puny earthlings}}. In contrast, while posing as king of Asgard in the newest movie, he commissions plays revolving around his life and [[FakingTheDead his own supposed heroic sacrifice]], has a giant statue of himself built, and makes sure to point it out loudly to everyone in the vicinity whenever he does something heroic, so he can get credit.

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** ''ComicBook/{{Loki}}'' becomes somewhat of a caricature of himself in ''Film/ThorRagnarok''. Though he had {{chronic backstabbing disorder}} and [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex an overblown need for people to worship him]] in the first two Thor movies and ''The Avengers'', these traits this trait are taken {{up to eleven}} in the last film. Whereas before, [[TheUsurper his efforts to take the throne from Thor]] or [[AlienInvasion invade some other realm to gain a different throne]] were motivated by a combination of revenge, envy, and wanting to gain his father's approval, in ''Thor Ragnarok'', he is so desperate for power that he [[spoiler: begins plotting to overthrow the ruler of a planet he has never been to before immediately after he lands. He also betrays Thor again because doing so might help him take over this planet in the future, telling Thor as he does so that his betrayal isn't personal. This is a contrast to previous movies, [[CainAndAbel where his betrayals of Thor]] were [[DisproportionateRetribution always personal]], and he had a habit of getting [[ManlyTears very upset while fighting his brother]], even if he was in the middle of trying to stab him.]] Additionally, while before his need to be worshipped resulted in a few {{kneel before Zod}} moments when he was trying to take over Earth, he acted relatively normal when around fellow Asgardians and not {{puny earthlings}}. In contrast, while posing as king of Asgard in the newest movie, he commissions plays revolving around his life and [[FakingTheDead his own supposed heroic sacrifice]], has a giant statue of himself built, and makes sure to point it out loudly to everyone in the vicinity whenever he does something heroic, so he can get credit.]]
12th Jun '18 2:09:32 AM Asherinka
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** ''ComicBook/{{Loki}}'' becomes somewhat of a caricature of himself in ''Film/ThorRagnarok''. Though he had {{chronic backstabbing disorder}} and [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex an overblown need for people to worship him]] in the first two Thor movies and ''The Avengers'', these traits are taken {{up to eleven}} in the last film. Whereas before, [[TheUsurper his efforts to take the throne from Thor]] or [[AlienInvasion invade some other realm to gain a different throne]] were motivated by a combination of revenge, envy, and wanting to gain his father's approval, in ''Thor Ragnarok'', he is so desperate for power that he [[spoiler: begins plotting to overthrow the ruler of a planet he has never been to before immediately after he lands. He also betrays Thor again because doing so might help him take over this planet in the future, telling Thor as he does so that his betrayal isn't personal. This is a contrast to previous movies, [[CainAndAbel where his betrayals of Thor]] were [[DisproportionateRetribution always personal]], and he had a habit of getting [[ManlyTears very upset while fighting his brother]], even if he was in the middle of trying to stab him.]] Additionally, while before his need to be worshipped resulted in a few {{kneel before Zod}} moments when he was trying to take over Earth, he acted relatively normal when around fellow Asgardians and not {{puny earthlings}}. In contrast, while posing as king of Asgard in the newest movie, he commissions plays revolving around his life and [[FakingTheDead his own supposed heroic sacrifice]], forces his subjects to watch them, has a giant statue of himself built, and makes sure to point it out loudly to everyone in the vicinity whenever he does something heroic, so he can get credit.

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** ''ComicBook/{{Loki}}'' becomes somewhat of a caricature of himself in ''Film/ThorRagnarok''. Though he had {{chronic backstabbing disorder}} and [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex an overblown need for people to worship him]] in the first two Thor movies and ''The Avengers'', these traits are taken {{up to eleven}} in the last film. Whereas before, [[TheUsurper his efforts to take the throne from Thor]] or [[AlienInvasion invade some other realm to gain a different throne]] were motivated by a combination of revenge, envy, and wanting to gain his father's approval, in ''Thor Ragnarok'', he is so desperate for power that he [[spoiler: begins plotting to overthrow the ruler of a planet he has never been to before immediately after he lands. He also betrays Thor again because doing so might help him take over this planet in the future, telling Thor as he does so that his betrayal isn't personal. This is a contrast to previous movies, [[CainAndAbel where his betrayals of Thor]] were [[DisproportionateRetribution always personal]], and he had a habit of getting [[ManlyTears very upset while fighting his brother]], even if he was in the middle of trying to stab him.]] Additionally, while before his need to be worshipped resulted in a few {{kneel before Zod}} moments when he was trying to take over Earth, he acted relatively normal when around fellow Asgardians and not {{puny earthlings}}. In contrast, while posing as king of Asgard in the newest movie, he commissions plays revolving around his life and [[FakingTheDead his own supposed heroic sacrifice]], forces his subjects to watch them, has a giant statue of himself built, and makes sure to point it out loudly to everyone in the vicinity whenever he does something heroic, so he can get credit.
12th May '18 5:08:12 PM chopshop
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* Brought up in-universe in ''Film/{{Inception}}''. Part of what makes Cobb understand that [[spoiler:his mental projection of Mal]] is fake is that itís basically an idealized Flanderization of the real person; taking [[spoiler:her love for him]] and acting as if that was her one and only personality trait, [[{{Yandere}} with nasty results]].
5th May '18 12:43:40 PM Nikumubeki
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* ''Whomp'' and its titular chacter, Ronnie. Starting off the series as an introverted, geeky and somewhat overweight otaku, all of these characteristics get exaggerated to comic proportions over time, until he is literally unable to interact with people in a normal manner, his eating is out of control and his Japanophilia borders on manic obsession.

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* ''Whomp'' ''{{Webcomic/Whomp}}'' and its titular chacter, Ronnie. Starting off the series as an introverted, geeky and somewhat overweight otaku, all of these characteristics get exaggerated to comic proportions over time, until he is literally unable to interact with people in a normal manner, his eating is out of control and his Japanophilia borders on manic obsession.
4th Apr '18 4:52:29 AM ArcaneAzmadi
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See also NeverLiveItDown for when the character is more associated with some action or event than the character actually changing, and UnintentionallySympathetic, when realistic quirks are mishandled by the writers. Compare TemporarilyExaggeratedTrait, which is like flanderization but only done temporarily. Compare and contrast EarlyInstallmentWeirdness (as it applies to characters), with early depictions of a character being different from later ones simply because the producers hadn't figured out what role they should play in the story.

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See also NeverLiveItDown for when the character is more associated with some action or event than the character actually changing, and UnintentionallySympathetic, when realistic quirks are mishandled by the writers. Compare TemporarilyExaggeratedTrait, which is like flanderization but only done temporarily. Compare and contrast EarlyInstallmentWeirdness (as it applies to characters), with early depictions of a character being different from later ones simply because the producers hadn't figured out what role they should play in the story.
story. Also see ForgotFlandersCouldDoThat, when a story brings back pre-Flanderized aspects of the character as a reminder that these traits are still there, even if you don't see them much any more.
30th Mar '18 9:23:26 AM Pichu-kun
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* {{Fanon}} portrayals of background ponies often go through this in the ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' fandom. For example, Lyra was originally just a pony who sat in a humanoid pose. Eventually fans began seeing her as being a fan of the [[FaeriesDontBelieveInHumansEither fictional species called humans]] (or sometimes just liking a show called "[[MyLittlePhony My Little Humans]]" and poking fun at the series' PeripheryDemographic). Eventually the joke went from "She's a [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} little weird]] and likes humans a lot" to "She sees herself as a [[TransSpecies human in a pony body]] and wants to travel to Earth". Within a few years her obsession with human eclipsed her other {{fanon}}s, like being Octavia's sister or being an ImpoversedMusician. Fans have begun to dial back on it though, thanks to the LowerDeckEpisode jossing her human obsession while giving fuel to the fire of her and Bonbon [[LesYay being an item]].

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* {{Fanon}} portrayals of background ponies often go through this in the ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' fandom. For example, Lyra was originally just a pony who sat in a humanoid pose. Eventually fans began seeing her as being a fan of the [[FaeriesDontBelieveInHumansEither fictional species called humans]] (or sometimes just liking a show called "[[MyLittlePhony My Little Humans]]" and poking fun at the series' PeripheryDemographic). Eventually the joke went from "She's a [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} little weird]] and likes humans a lot" to "She sees herself as a [[TransSpecies [[TransNature human in a pony body]] and wants to travel to Earth". Within a few years her obsession with human eclipsed her other {{fanon}}s, like being Octavia's sister or being an ImpoversedMusician. a [[StarvingArtist poor harpist]]. Fans have begun to dial back on it it, though, thanks to the LowerDeckEpisode jossing her human obsession while giving fuel to the fire of her and Bonbon [[LesYay being an item]].
30th Mar '18 9:20:22 AM Pichu-kun
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* {{Fanon}} portrayals of background ponies often go through this in the ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' fandom. For example, Lyra was originally just a pony who sat in a humanoid pose. Eventually fans began seeing her as being a fan of the [[FaeriesDontBelieveInHumansEither fictional species called humans]] (or sometimes just liking a show called "[[MyLittlePhony My Little Humans]]" and poking fun at the series' PeripheryDemographic). Eventually the joke went from "She's a [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} little weird]] and likes humans a lot" to "She sees herself as a human in a pony body and wants to travel to Earth". Within a few years her obsession with human eclipsed her other {{fanon}}s, like being Octavia's sister or being a musician. Fans have begun to dial back on it though, thanks to the LowerDeckEpisode jossing her human obsession while giving fuel to the fire of her and Bonbon [[LesYay being an item]].

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* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Jem}}'' Stormer is the TokenGoodTeammate of The Misfits and TheHeart of the band. She, however, does have a backbone and can do mean things (usually due to her friends influence, however). Fans have a tendency to water her down to Hologram levels of sweetness and make her a perfect lil' angel.
* {{Fanon}} portrayals of background ponies often go through this in the ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' fandom. For example, Lyra was originally just a pony who sat in a humanoid pose. Eventually fans began seeing her as being a fan of the [[FaeriesDontBelieveInHumansEither fictional species called humans]] (or sometimes just liking a show called "[[MyLittlePhony My Little Humans]]" and poking fun at the series' PeripheryDemographic). Eventually the joke went from "She's a [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} little weird]] and likes humans a lot" to "She sees herself as a [[TransSpecies human in a pony body body]] and wants to travel to Earth". Within a few years her obsession with human eclipsed her other {{fanon}}s, like being Octavia's sister or being a musician.an ImpoversedMusician. Fans have begun to dial back on it though, thanks to the LowerDeckEpisode jossing her human obsession while giving fuel to the fire of her and Bonbon [[LesYay being an item]].



* A great many ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' fics will do this to one character or another. The most universal tends to be Mizuki who goes from a ReasonableAuthorityFigure that's secretly TheMole to a {{Jerkass}} that blatantly sabotages Naruto at every turn (including but not limited to: burning his books, putting him in the hospital during a sparring match, and outright trying to kill him publicly).

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* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'':
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A great many ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' fics will do this to one character or another. The most universal tends to be Mizuki who goes from a ReasonableAuthorityFigure that's secretly TheMole to a {{Jerkass}} that blatantly sabotages Naruto at every turn (including but not limited to: burning his books, putting him in the hospital during a sparring match, and outright trying to kill him publicly).
25th Mar '18 12:48:57 PM Hjortron18
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** Tony Stark in ''Film/IronMan1'' was a charismatic celebrity billionaire who could walk into any group of people and become the center of attention because of his fast talking wit. After his life changing experience being captured by terrorists, his [[HeelRealization moral compass changed dramatically]] but his ''personality'' remained the same, still very fast talking and had a quick wit. This was largely due to Creator/RobertDowneyJr and the director deciding on a lot of {{improv}} so they [[ThrowItIn can take the best material from that]]. Starting with ''Film/IronMan2'' his wit was replaced with making a lot of quips, generally refusing to take a situation seriously and [[AttentionDeficitOohShiny often easily distracted]]. This continued through ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' and ''Film/IronMan3'' before reaching its apex in ''Film/TheAvengersAgeOfUltron'' (it's even been argued that due to the success of RDJ as Tony Stark that this trait has been pushed through much of the MCU, with almost every individual series having a lot of quipping characters even though it has little basis on their various comics counterparts). This trait was largely reversed in ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' as Tony was going through a lot of personal issues and looked constantly tired, and we see him return to that "charismatic celebrity" personality when he went out to recruit Peter Parker, which was maintained with ''Film/SpiderManHomecoming''.

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** Tony Stark in ''Film/IronMan1'' was a charismatic celebrity billionaire who could walk into any group of people and become the center of attention because of his fast talking wit. After his life changing experience being captured by terrorists, his [[HeelRealization moral compass changed dramatically]] but his ''personality'' remained the same, still very fast talking and had a quick wit. This was largely due to Creator/RobertDowneyJr and the director deciding on a lot of {{improv}} so they [[ThrowItIn can take the best material from that]]. Starting with ''Film/IronMan2'' his wit was replaced with making a lot of quips, generally refusing to take a situation seriously and [[AttentionDeficitOohShiny often easily distracted]]. This continued through ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' and ''Film/IronMan3'' before reaching its apex in ''Film/TheAvengersAgeOfUltron'' ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' (it's even been argued that due to the success of RDJ as Tony Stark that this trait has been pushed through much of the MCU, with almost every individual series having a lot of quipping characters even though it has little basis on their various comics counterparts). This trait was largely reversed in ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' as Tony was going through a lot of personal issues and looked constantly tired, and we see him return to that "charismatic celebrity" personality when he went out to recruit Peter Parker, which was maintained with ''Film/SpiderManHomecoming''.
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