History Main / FirstLawOfTragicomedies

19th Jan '17 7:01:01 PM ChaoticNovelist
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In the worst cases, however, over the course of a series of books, films, television episodes, or other media, the subject might start out mainly comedy, switch to dramedy at about the halfway point, then continue to become [[DarkerAndEdgier darker and less comedic]] until [[EverybodysDeadDave beloved characters start]] [[KillEmAll getting wiped out with frightening regularity]]. Fans are then more justified in complaining that the series JumpedTheShark with a GenreShift.

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In the worst cases, however, over the course of a series of books, films, television episodes, or other media, the subject might start out mainly comedy, switch to dramedy at about the halfway point, then continue to become [[DarkerAndEdgier darker and less comedic]] until [[EverybodysDeadDave [[AnyoneCanDie beloved characters start]] [[KillEmAll start getting wiped out with frightening regularity]]. Fans are then more justified in complaining that the series JumpedTheShark with a GenreShift.
22nd Sep '16 9:47:45 PM nombretomado
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* A lot of light-hearted operas (e.g. ''LaBoheme'', ''DonGiovanni'', ''La Traviata'' or pretty much any opera in the "fallen woman" genre, etc.) take a dive toward the dramatic in the final act. Mozart himself said that any good comic opera needs at least one ''seria'' (read: dramatic opera) character or arc.

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* A lot of light-hearted operas (e.g. ''LaBoheme'', ''Theatre/LaBoheme'', ''DonGiovanni'', ''La Traviata'' or pretty much any opera in the "fallen woman" genre, etc.) take a dive toward the dramatic in the final act. Mozart himself said that any good comic opera needs at least one ''seria'' (read: dramatic opera) character or arc.
31st Aug '16 11:55:00 PM WillBGood
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* ''Film/ThirdStar is hilarious throughout, despite having [[BlackComedy very dark subject matter]] but in the last half hour everything starts to go horribly wrong.

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* ''Film/ThirdStar ''Film/ThirdStar'' is hilarious throughout, despite having [[BlackComedy very dark subject matter]] but in the last half hour everything starts to go horribly wrong.
31st Aug '16 11:54:11 PM WillBGood
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* ''Series/{{Mash}}'' is the ultimate example of this trope in American pop culture. Its reputation shifted from being among the zaniest of zany sitcoms (by the standards of the time) to TearJerker-a-minute episodes.

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* ''Series/{{Mash}}'' ''Series/{{MASH}}'' is the ultimate example of this trope in American pop culture. Its reputation shifted from being among the zaniest of zany sitcoms (by the standards of the time) to TearJerker-a-minute episodes.



** Although there was plenty of serious stuff in ''Series/{{Mash}}'' early on -- take "Sometimes You Hear The Bullet." The main difference is in the (dis)integration of the elements rather than the amount of either: in the early days comedy and tragedy often happened back-to-back in the same situation, whereas in later years episodes would often feature distinct "funny" and "serious" plotlines.

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** Although That said, there was plenty of serious stuff in ''Series/{{Mash}}'' early on -- take "Sometimes You Hear The Bullet." The main difference is in the (dis)integration of the elements rather than the amount of either: in the early days comedy and tragedy often happened back-to-back in the same situation, whereas in later years episodes would often feature distinct "funny" and "serious" plotlines.
4th Jun '16 4:50:06 PM Prfnoff
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* ''Theatre/{{Salome}}'', especially in its operatic adaptation which composer Richard Strauss once described as "ein Scherzo mit tödlichem Ausgang" (a scherzo with a fatal conclusion).
2nd Mar '16 11:26:53 AM CaptainCrawdad
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** In fact, the term "tragicomedy" was originally coined to describe plays that started out like tragedies but ended with redemption and reconciliation instead of KillEmAll. Two of Shakespeare's younger contemporaries, John Fletcher and Philip Massinger, were particularly well known for their tragicomedies, and for a time the form was so popular that some of Shakespeare's darker tragedies were given LighterAndSofter revisions with happier endings.
* Up until Act III, and aside from the opening, ''RomeoAndJuliet'' is essentially a RomanticComedy.

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** In fact, the * The term "tragicomedy" was originally coined to describe plays that started out like tragedies but ended with redemption and reconciliation instead of KillEmAll. Two of Shakespeare's younger contemporaries, John Fletcher and Philip Massinger, Massinger were particularly well known for their tragicomedies, and for a time the form was so popular that some of Shakespeare's darker tragedies were given LighterAndSofter revisions with happier endings.
* Up until Act III, and aside from the opening, ''RomeoAndJuliet'' ''Theatre/RomeoAndJuliet'' is essentially a RomanticComedy.



** The same thing applies to ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods'', also by Sondheim. The first half is set up as a mix of traditional fairy tales, with plenty of humour, although some of it is BlackComedy due to not going with a Disneyfied version of all of the tales (the fate of Cinderella's stepsisters in particular stand out). The second act shows the fallout of everything that happened to achieve the "happily ever after" of the first act. Despite starting with some very funny scenes, it quickly takes a turn for the worse and character start dropping like flies. There's even a reprise of a very funny song, ''Agony'', a duet for the two Princes talking about wanting unreachable women, which is still hilarious but has a darker undertone due to the fact that they are now cheating on the wives they spent the first act trying to get.

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** The same thing applies to ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods'', also by Sondheim.* ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods''. The first half is set up as a mix of traditional fairy tales, with plenty of humour, although some of it is BlackComedy due to not going with a Disneyfied version of all of the tales (the fate of Cinderella's stepsisters in particular stand out). The second act shows the fallout of everything that happened to achieve the "happily ever after" of the first act. Despite starting with some very funny scenes, it quickly takes a turn for the worse and character start dropping like flies. There's even a reprise of a very funny song, ''Agony'', a duet for the two Princes talking about wanting unreachable women, which is still hilarious but has a darker undertone due to the fact that they are now cheating on the wives they spent the first act trying to get.
2nd Mar '16 11:24:32 AM CaptainCrawdad
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* You know you're watching ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' when, apart from the one or two [[BreatherEpisode Breather Episodes]] they do a season, the episodes have about ten minutes worth of cracky fun and the other thirty is laced with a deep depression. And then of course, one of those [[BreatherEpisode Breather Episodes]] will be something like "Mystery Spot," where the cracky fun/depression ratio is reversed: "Hilarious, hilarious... ''TearJerker Oh my god!''"

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* You know you're watching ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' when, apart from the one or two [[BreatherEpisode Breather Episodes]] they do a season, the episodes have about ten minutes worth of cracky fun and the other thirty is laced with a deep depression. And then of course, one of those [[BreatherEpisode Breather Episodes]] will be something like "Mystery Spot," where the cracky fun/depression ratio is reversed: "Hilarious, hilarious... ''TearJerker ''[[TearJerker Oh my god!''"god]]!''"
2nd Mar '16 11:23:59 AM CaptainCrawdad
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* ''Series/{{Mash}}'' is the ultimate example of this trope in American pop culture. Its reputation shifted from being among the zaniest of zany sitcoms (by the standards of the time) to TearJerker-a-minute episodes vying with ''Literature/AllQuietOnTheWesternFront'' for the title of "most depressing anti-war screed ever".

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* ''Series/{{Mash}}'' is the ultimate example of this trope in American pop culture. Its reputation shifted from being among the zaniest of zany sitcoms (by the standards of the time) to TearJerker-a-minute episodes vying with ''Literature/AllQuietOnTheWesternFront'' for the title of "most depressing anti-war screed ever".episodes.



** Parodied on one episode of ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'', where iHawk (a robot expy of Hawkeye) actually has a switch on his side that goes from "irreverent" to "maudlin".



** Which kinda makes sense, considering the doctors are trying to avoid the unbearable soul-crushingly inevitable depression of their jobs by focusing on the lighter moments. Only when they ''have'' to confront the bad stuff do they actually lose their humor.
** Scrubs strikes a great balance between the two, and for this reason they never have a very special episode, since in a way every episode is one.
* ''Series/StargateSG1'' episode "[[GroundhogDayLoop Window of Opportunity]]" is very funny in almost every scene -- with the exception of the very dramatic climax.

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* ''Series/StargateSG1'':
** Which kinda makes sense, considering the doctors are trying to avoid the unbearable soul-crushingly inevitable depression of their jobs by focusing on the lighter moments. Only when they ''have'' to confront the bad stuff do they actually lose their humor.
** Scrubs strikes a great balance between the two, and for this reason they never have a very special episode, since in a way every episode is one.
* ''Series/StargateSG1''
The episode "[[GroundhogDayLoop Window of Opportunity]]" is very funny in almost every scene -- with the exception of the very dramatic climax.climax.



* You know you're watching ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' when, apart from the one or two [[BreatherEpisode Breather Episodes]] they do a season, the episodes have about ten minutes worth of cracky fun and the other thirty is laced with a deep [[strike:angst]] depression.
** And then of course, one of those [[BreatherEpisode Breather Episodes]] will be something like Mystery Spot, where the cracky fun/depression ratio is reversed: [[CrowningMomentofFunny Hilarious, hilarious. . .]] ''[[TearJerker Oh my god. . .]]''

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* You know you're watching ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' when, apart from the one or two [[BreatherEpisode Breather Episodes]] they do a season, the episodes have about ten minutes worth of cracky fun and the other thirty is laced with a deep [[strike:angst]] depression.
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depression. And then of course, one of those [[BreatherEpisode Breather Episodes]] will be something like Mystery Spot, "Mystery Spot," where the cracky fun/depression ratio is reversed: [[CrowningMomentofFunny Hilarious, hilarious. . .]] ''[[TearJerker "Hilarious, hilarious... ''TearJerker Oh my god. . .]]''god!''"
2nd Mar '16 11:11:06 AM CaptainCrawdad
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* ''Film/TheCableGuy'' (most notable for starring JimCarrey) starts out as a comedy about a man and his goofy cable guy, and [[MoodWhiplash evolves into a disturbing thriller]] about a man and his criminally insane stalker cable guy.

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* ''Film/TheCableGuy'' (most notable for starring JimCarrey) starts out as a ''Film/TheCableGuy'': the comedy about a man begins zany and his goofy cable guy, and [[MoodWhiplash evolves into gets progressively darker, until the film becomes something of a disturbing thriller]] about psychological thriller with jokes. Audiences at the time were famously unprepared for such a man and his criminally insane stalker cable guy.dark turn from Creator/JimCarrey.
2nd Mar '16 11:05:33 AM CaptainCrawdad
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* ''Film/{{Underground}}'' gets less comedic and more tragic as it goes on, though it has both throughout.
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