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12th Feb '17 10:26:06 AM CurledUpWithDakka
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* In the "Literature/TheHistoryoftheRunestaff" the unnamed future year has degenerated to this.

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* In the "Literature/TheHistoryoftheRunestaff" "Literature/TheHistoryOfTheRunestaff" the unnamed future year has degenerated to this.
2nd Feb '17 9:17:23 PM Fireblood
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* Princess Vespa's home world, the planet Druidia in ''Film/{{Spaceballs}}''. They take the medieval imagery even further with Vespa's father the king dressed like an Old World monarch with crown, ermine cape and sceptre.
* In ''StarWars'', we have Princess Leia, and her mother, Queen Amidala, "recently elected ruler of Naboo". Naboo also has a Prime Minister, so Naboo is probably a constitutional elected monarchy with the Queen acting in a similar role to Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom (i.e., lawmaking and ambassadorial duties).
** It's eventually expanded by, naturally, the Star Wars Expanded Universe. Naboo elects a new monarch every four years, the monarch is meant to represent the innocence of humanity and as such is often very young, which explains why Amidala was queen at age 14. Also the monarch is usually given a new post when their time to reign is over, monarchs are allowed only two terms, with Padme Amidala becoming the galactic senator for her planet after her reign as Queen. Apparently they tried to change this rule to keep Padme in power, but she declined.
** Leia is actually a princess through her adopted parents, Queen Brea and Prince Bail Organa of Alderaan. ExpandedUniverse material shows that, despite being a core world of the Republic (and thus subject to the laws of a democracy), local affairs are ''very'' much controlled by the local noble houses, complete with assassinations, AltarDiplomacy, and [[DeadlyDecadentCourt all the other things you'd expect]] from a social structure of GameOfThrones given sci-fi tech. {{Deconstructed}} in ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'' where the planet withdrew from the Republic, and is in a state of all-out civil warfare among the nobility with the Republic and the Empire supporting different noble houses in a proxy war to take down a usurper who believes the planet should remain independent (which is not in the interest of either faction).

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* Princess Vespa's home world, the planet Druidia Druidia, in ''Film/{{Spaceballs}}''. They take the medieval imagery even further with Vespa's father the king dressed like an Old World monarch with crown, ermine cape and sceptre.
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* In ''StarWars'', we have Princess Leia, and her mother, Queen Amidala, "recently [[ElectiveMonarchy elected ruler ruler]] of Naboo". Naboo also has a Prime Minister, so Naboo is probably a constitutional elected monarchy with the Queen acting in a similar role to Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom (i.e., lawmaking and ambassadorial duties).
** It's eventually expanded by, naturally, the Star Wars Expanded Universe. Naboo elects a new monarch every four years, the monarch is meant to represent the innocence of humanity and as such is often very young, which explains why Amidala was queen at age 14. Also the monarch is usually given a new post when their time to reign is over, monarchs are allowed only two terms, with Padme Amidala becoming the galactic senator for her planet after her reign as Queen. Apparently they tried to change this rule to keep permit Padme more time in power, office, but she declined.
** Leia is actually a princess through her adopted parents, Queen Brea and Prince Bail Organa of Alderaan. ExpandedUniverse material shows that, despite being a core world of the Republic (and thus subject to the laws of a democracy), local affairs are ''very'' much controlled by the local noble houses, complete with assassinations, AltarDiplomacy, and [[DeadlyDecadentCourt all the other things you'd expect]] from a social structure of GameOfThrones given sci-fi tech. {{Deconstructed}} in ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'' where the planet withdrew from the Republic, and is in a state of all-out civil warfare war among the nobility nobility, with the Republic and the Empire supporting different noble houses in a proxy war to take down a usurper who believes the planet should remain independent (which is not in the interest of either faction). faction).
* ''Film/ThePostman'': The Holnists have set up this arrangement with the towns they extort into giving them goods and conscripts, as Bethlehem explains when invoking [[DroitDuSeigneur his "right" to sleep with Abby]].



* One of Creator/DavidBrin's short stories, ''The Fourth Vocation of George Gustaf'' explores the possibility that even in a highly technological society, humans are hard-wired to need royalty; the sentient computer(s) running much of Earth's near-utopian future manipulate George, a highly successful but bored intellectual, into becoming King of Earth by "allowing" him to run a sociological experiment in which he claims to be heir of most of the defunct thrones of Europe and Asia. Then they rewrite the human database with the intention of keeping him on the throne - with no way of proving his original hoax.
* Creator/DavidBrin's recent novel ''Literature/{{Existence}}'' has an aristocracy arising in the next forty years due to class warfare. The ultra-rich came up with a "New Deal" that stratified society into ten estates. While it's not quite feudalism many of the tenth estate consider the Enlightenment a failed experiment and reason that since so many past societies were feudal it must work. Their plans are somewhat waylaid by the discovery of the Artifact though.

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One of Creator/DavidBrin's his short stories, ''The Fourth Vocation of George Gustaf'' explores the possibility that even in a highly technological society, humans are hard-wired to need royalty; the sentient computer(s) running much of Earth's near-utopian future manipulate George, a highly successful but bored intellectual, into becoming King of Earth by "allowing" him to run a sociological experiment in which he claims to be heir of most of the defunct thrones of Europe and Asia. Then they rewrite the human database with the intention of keeping him on the throne - with no way of proving his original hoax.
* Creator/DavidBrin's ** His recent novel ''Literature/{{Existence}}'' has an aristocracy arising in the next forty years due to class warfare. The ultra-rich came up with a "New Deal" that stratified society into ten estates. While it's not quite feudalism many of the tenth estate consider the Enlightenment a failed experiment and reason that since so many past societies were feudal it must work. Their plans are somewhat waylaid by the discovery of the Artifact though.though.
** ''Literature/ThePostman'' also features one, due to the US collapsing after a nuclear war, with violent survivalists taking over part of the country as its new feudal overlords.
1st Feb '17 6:15:23 PM Specialist290
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Note that every large enough nation is divided into territories for ease of administration, and if a given territory is large enough that elections would take years hereditary governors would be practical, which is the definition of feudalism. So this trope may be {{Justified|Trope}} in settings without [[SubspaceAnsible FTL communications]] or CasualInterstellarTravel.

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Note that every large enough nation is divided into territories for ease of administration, and if a given territory is large enough that elections would take years hereditary governors would be practical, which is the definition makes some kind of feudalism.feudal hierarchy much more likely. So this trope may be {{Justified|Trope}} in settings without [[SubspaceAnsible FTL communications]] or CasualInterstellarTravel.
1st Jan '17 6:18:33 PM MasterGhandalf
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* Two of the three main human societies in ''Literature/TheIndrananWar'' are set up like this. The titular Indranan Empire has an elected parliament and prime minister, but all the ''real'' power is held by the [[AlwaysFemale Empress]] and the Matriarch Council (composed of the female heads of the major noble families). Their rivals the Saxon Alliance are also a monarchy led by a king, though the internal workings of the Saxons are explored in far less detail. The Solarian League is the third major power and averts this; it's a democracy led by a president.
30th Dec '16 2:59:05 PM Specialist290
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Occasionally we are told that the king/emperor is elected, but it makes no difference in their authority. Certainly we never see them running for re-election. (A clever writer could make it like the emperor of the Holy Roman Empire, also elected, but such issues as who are the electors and who is eligible to run never come up.)

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Occasionally we are told that the king/emperor is elected, [[ElectiveMonarchy elected]], but it makes no difference in their authority. Certainly we never see them running for re-election. (A clever writer could make it like the emperor of the Holy Roman Empire, also elected, but such issues as who are the electors and who is eligible to run never come up.)
5th Dec '16 11:31:49 AM Zwazo57
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*''Literature/{{Bearheart}}'': People wall themselves up, similar to medieval towns.
5th Dec '16 9:58:29 AM Allronix
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** Leia is actually a princess through her adopted parents, Queen Brea and Prince Bail Organa of Alderaan. ExpandedUniverse material shows that, despite being a core world of the Republic (and thus subject to the laws of a democracy), local affairs are ''very'' much controlled by the local noble houses, complete with assassinations, AltarDiplomacy, and [[DeadlyDecadantCourt all the other things you'd expect]] from a social structure of GameOfThrones given sci-fi tech. {{Deconstructed}} in ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'' where the planet withdrew from the Republic, and is in a state of all-out civil warfare among the nobility with the Republic and the Empire supporting different noble houses in a proxy war to take down a usurper who believes the planet should remain independent (which is not in the interest of either faction).

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** Leia is actually a princess through her adopted parents, Queen Brea and Prince Bail Organa of Alderaan. ExpandedUniverse material shows that, despite being a core world of the Republic (and thus subject to the laws of a democracy), local affairs are ''very'' much controlled by the local noble houses, complete with assassinations, AltarDiplomacy, and [[DeadlyDecadantCourt [[DeadlyDecadentCourt all the other things you'd expect]] from a social structure of GameOfThrones given sci-fi tech. {{Deconstructed}} in ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'' where the planet withdrew from the Republic, and is in a state of all-out civil warfare among the nobility with the Republic and the Empire supporting different noble houses in a proxy war to take down a usurper who believes the planet should remain independent (which is not in the interest of either faction).
5th Dec '16 9:54:53 AM Allronix
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** Leia is actually a princess through her adopted father, Prince Bail Organa of Alderaan.

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** Leia is actually a princess through her adopted father, parents, Queen Brea and Prince Bail Organa of Alderaan.Alderaan. ExpandedUniverse material shows that, despite being a core world of the Republic (and thus subject to the laws of a democracy), local affairs are ''very'' much controlled by the local noble houses, complete with assassinations, AltarDiplomacy, and [[DeadlyDecadantCourt all the other things you'd expect]] from a social structure of GameOfThrones given sci-fi tech. {{Deconstructed}} in ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'' where the planet withdrew from the Republic, and is in a state of all-out civil warfare among the nobility with the Republic and the Empire supporting different noble houses in a proxy war to take down a usurper who believes the planet should remain independent (which is not in the interest of either faction).
4th Dec '16 3:09:23 PM StarSword
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* ''Literature/AngelInTheWhirlwind'''s Commonwealth of Tyre began life as a MegaCorp-dominated plutocracy and had the {{Fiction 500}} heads of the corporations declare themselves dukes and a king. It's still possible to get rich and buy yourself a peerage.
3rd Dec '16 2:34:46 AM CountDorku
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** Other stages in the TFH play it straight in entirely different ways. ''Space Viking'' is set at a time when the Terran Federation has gone belly-up, leaving mostly local nobilities to rule, although some have a degree of democracy; Marduk basically resembles Britain, with a mostly vestigial monarchy ruling only in name over a democratic government. (Because Piper believed that [[DemocracyIsFlawed democracy is, at minimum, flawed]], Marduk actually becomes less democratic during the story, due to the rise of a Hitler figure forcing the monarchy to start flexing its muscles once more.)
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