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24th May '17 6:51:51 AM BeerBaron
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* In ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'', [[ANaziByAnyOtherName the Thalmor]] believe that not just the existence of mankind, but the existence of the ''possibility'' of mankind, keeps the elves trapped in the normal world, which explains quite nicely why they can't accept the ascension of Talos, a mortal man, into the ranks of the Divines, and why they want his worship stamped out at all costs. The scary thing is that they might actually be right.

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* In ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'', the creation story of most religions of Tamriel states that, from the aftermath of the struggle between "stasis" and "chaos/change" over the idea of "creation", a number of "original spirits" (AKA "et'Ada") emerged. One of these spirits, [[IHaveManyNames known by many names]] but most prominently as Lorkhan, led a few of these spirits in creating the mortal plane, Mundus. However, these spirits who participated (the Aedra, or "our ancestors" in Aldmeris) were forced to sacrifice large portions of their power in the process. According to [[OurElvesAreBetter Altmeri (High Elf)]] religious beliefs, they are the descendants of those spirits who stayed within Mundus and populated it. Their religion teaches that the creation of Mundus was a cruel trick which forced their divine ancestors to experience mortal suffering, loss, and death. To them, Mundus is a prison, where their immortal souls are trapped in mortal flesh with "more limitations than not." Some of the more extremist Altmeri religious sects, such as [[ANaziByAnyOtherName the Thalmor]] Thalmor]], take this even further. They actively seek to ''[[OmnicidalManiac undo creation]]'', which they believe will return them to [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence a state of pre-creation divinity]]. However, they believe that not just the existence of mankind, but the existence of the ''possibility'' of mankind, keeps the elves them trapped in Mundus. (According to their beliefs, mankind were made up from the normal world, which explains quite nicely why they can't accept "weakest souls" by Lorkhan to spread Sithis (chaos) "into every corner," ensuring that there could never be the ascension "stasis" of pre-creation again) Officially, the Thalmor espouse the belief that Talos, a [[DeityOfHumanOrigin formerly mortal man, into man]] ([[MergerOfSouls or men]], depending on the ranks version of the Divines, and why story) who ascended to godhood, cannot ''truly'' be a god equal to the Aedra. Thus, they want his have forced the Empire to ban the worship stamped out at all costs. The scary thing of Talos. Unofficially, the Thalmor believe that Talos may be [[BarrierMaiden the last thing]] keeping the mortal world extant. "[[KillTheGod Killing him]]" by depriving him of mankind's worship would, in their minds, undo creation. (And terrifyingly, there is evidence that they might actually may be right.''right'' about this...)
15th Apr '17 9:47:00 AM BlackSunNocturne
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* This seems to be a recurring issue in the ''Franchise/DragonAge'' series. Normally its the Dalish elves feeling oppressed by the shemlen's (human's) existence, but as the games went on the Qunari take this spot by and large. Especially in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'', as one character, [[BitchInSheepsClothing Sister]] [[SinisterMinister Petrice]], actively tries to insight violence against the group of Qunari that are stranded in Kirkwall, whom have a different philosophical/religious viewpoint from The Chantry.
30th Mar '17 10:15:17 PM marcoasalazarm
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* A ''Series/CriminalMinds'' episode ("Lessons Learned", on Season Two) has a mujahideen leader saying this is the reason he wages war against the Western world to Jason Gideon (it's said that he lost his wife and son to a drone strike and implied that he had [[MotiveDecay devolved]] into his current mindset). When Gideon asks if this would mean [[KillEmAll killing everybody on the planet (that doesn't follows him)]], the man just gives Gideon a smile and says that to him there's no such thing as a non-combatant.

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* A ''Series/CriminalMinds'' episode ("Lessons Learned", on Season Two) has a mujahideen leader saying this is the reason he wages war against the Western world to Jason Gideon (it's said that he lost his wife and son to a drone strike and implied that he had [[MotiveDecay devolved]] into his current mindset). When Gideon asks if this would mean [[KillEmAll killing everybody on the planet (that doesn't follows him)]], the man just gives Gideon a smile and says that to him [[OmnicidalManiac there's no such thing as a non-combatant."non-combatant"]] (bear in mind, the plot BAU helped defuse was that of nerve-gassing a mall in the middle of DC and he also gloated about thinking of bombing a school next time).



* In the 90's ''WesternAnimation/XMen'' cartoon this is more or less the opinion and motivation of Graydon Creed ([[spoiler:despite the fact he appears to be a baseline human born to two mutant parents... who were AbusiveParents]]). Keeping in mind he says the following as if it were fact:
-->'''Jubilee:''' What did we ever do to you!?\\

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* In the 90's ''WesternAnimation/XMen'' cartoon this is more or less the opinion and motivation of Graydon Creed ([[spoiler:despite the fact he appears to be a baseline human born to two mutant parents... who were AbusiveParents]]). Keeping in mind he says the following as if it were fact:
fact ''in the middle of a torture'':
-->'''Jubilee:''' What did we I ever do to you!?\\
27th Mar '17 4:14:16 AM Nintendoman01
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* Hordy Jones, BigBad of ''Manga/OnePiece's'' Fishman Island arc, absolutely despises humans with a passion. He preaches to his fellow Fishmen and Merfolk about vengeance on humanity and considers anyone who is friendly with or seeks peace with humans to be NoTrueScotsman. What lands him in this trope is the fact [[spoiler:his actions are pure, blind racism. He's had few, if any, of the negative experiences with humans that pushed other Fishman villains like Arlong. He grew up simply hearing humans are bad and took it to extremes.]]

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* Hordy Hody Jones, BigBad of ''Manga/OnePiece's'' Fishman Island arc, absolutely despises humans with a passion. He preaches to his fellow Fishmen and Merfolk about vengeance on humanity and considers anyone who is friendly with or seeks peace with humans to be NoTrueScotsman. What lands him in this trope is the fact [[spoiler:his actions are pure, blind racism. He's had few, if any, of the negative experiences with When Prince Fukaboshi demands to know what humans that pushed did to him to make him such a monster, Hody's response is "nothing." Unlike other Fishman villains like Arlong. He grew up simply hearing humans are bad and took it such as Arlong, Hody has ''never'' personally suffered at the hands of humans; he hates them because it's what he was raised to extremes.believe.]]


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* ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012'': The Shredder's hatred of Hamato Yoshi/Splinter runs so deep that he considers Splinter still being alive another day a stain on his honor.
26th Mar '17 2:46:10 PM Fireblood
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmXpJuEnNnw This video]] by WebVideo/DarkMatter2525, titled "Hate Speech", in which after a Christian tells an atheist how he is going to forever burn in Hell while he will bask in the glory of Heaven, and the atheist rebukes him by saying that he thinks that's ridiculous, the Christian [[{{Hypocrite}} accuses him of "hate speech" and "oppressing Christians"]]. Jesus himself then shows up (on the cross, no less) to tell him off over this.

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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmXpJuEnNnw This video]] by WebVideo/DarkMatter2525, ''WebAnimation/DarkMatter2525'', titled "Hate Speech", in which after a Christian tells an atheist how he is going to forever burn in Hell while he will bask in the glory of Heaven, and the atheist rebukes him by saying that he thinks that's ridiculous, the Christian [[{{Hypocrite}} accuses him of "hate speech" and "oppressing Christians"]]. Jesus himself then shows up (on the cross, no less) to tell him off over this.
26th Mar '17 1:39:39 PM Fireblood
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmXpJuEnNnw This video]] by [=DarkMatter2525=], titled "Hate Speech", in which after a Christian tells an atheist how he is going to forever burn in Hell while he will bask in the glory of Heaven, and the atheist rebukes him by saying that he thinks that's ridiculous, the Christian [[{{Hypocrite}} accuses him of "hate speech" and "oppressing Christians"]]. Jesus himself then shows up (on the cross, no less) to tell him off over this.

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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmXpJuEnNnw This video]] by [=DarkMatter2525=], WebVideo/DarkMatter2525, titled "Hate Speech", in which after a Christian tells an atheist how he is going to forever burn in Hell while he will bask in the glory of Heaven, and the atheist rebukes him by saying that he thinks that's ridiculous, the Christian [[{{Hypocrite}} accuses him of "hate speech" and "oppressing Christians"]]. Jesus himself then shows up (on the cross, no less) to tell him off over this.
7th Mar '17 3:43:34 PM margdean56
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* In ''Literature/GoodOmens'', R.P. Tyler appears to be one of these, but lacks the passion to do anything but send letter after StronglyWordedLetter to the local newspaper complaining about everyone and everything that annoys him by its presence - including the fact that the paper doesn't publish all of them because if they did they wouldn't have any room in the Letters to the Editor section for anyone ''else's'' letters.

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* In ''Literature/GoodOmens'', R.P. Tyler appears to be one of these, but lacks the passion to do anything but send letter after StronglyWordedLetter to the local newspaper complaining about everyone and everything that annoys him by its presence - -- including the fact that the paper doesn't publish all of them because if they did they wouldn't have any room in the Letters to the Editor section for anyone ''else's'' letters.



** And, of course, the inhabitants of the planet Krikkit, around whom the events of ''Literature/LifeTheUniverseAndEverything'' revolve. They are a charming, sports-loving, easy-going -- if a little whimsical -- race who just happen to desire the annihilation of the rest of the universe [[spoiler: because their whole history has been manipulated by the super-computer Hactar to bring them to this way of thinking]]. Having evolved shielded from knowledge of the possibility of anything existing outside their own planet, they are appalled when a spaceship crash-lands on their world, at once blowing apart their idea of existence. They debate - charmingly, whimsically - the implications of a universe outside their planet this and come to one conclusion:

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** And, of course, the inhabitants of the planet Krikkit, around whom the events of ''Literature/LifeTheUniverseAndEverything'' revolve. They are a charming, sports-loving, easy-going -- if a little whimsical -- race who just happen to desire the annihilation of the rest of the universe [[spoiler: because their whole history has been manipulated by the super-computer Hactar to bring them to this way of thinking]]. Having evolved shielded from knowledge of the possibility of anything existing outside their own planet, they are appalled when a spaceship crash-lands on their world, at once blowing apart their idea of existence. They debate - -- charmingly, whimsically - -- the implications of a universe outside their planet this and come to one conclusion:



--> '''Susan''': "Well, yes, but-"

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--> '''Susan''': "Well, Well, yes, but-"but--



* A more or less {{Justified}} example in ''Literature/CodexAlera''. The yeti-esque Icemen use a form of water magic for both {{Telepathy}} and [[AnIcePerson manipulation of ice and snow]]. Alerans use [[PlayingWithFire fire magic]] to stay warm in the cold north where the icemen live. Unfortunately, when the two intersect, it causes feelings of anger and agressiveness. Because of this, the Alerans and the Icemen are locked in a ForeverWar, with any attempt to negotiate an end to it sabotaged by this effect. [[spoiler: At least until an even bigger threat approaches Alera from the opposite direction and they ''really'' need every soldier they can spare, and the First Lord happens to send someone ''really'' good at watercrafting to make one last shot at brokering a ceasefire. Both sides are left feeling more than a bit silly after she figures it out.]]

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* A more or less {{Justified}} example in ''Literature/CodexAlera''. The yeti-esque Icemen use a form of water magic for both {{Telepathy}} and [[AnIcePerson manipulation of ice and snow]]. Alerans use [[PlayingWithFire fire magic]] to stay warm in the cold north where the icemen live. Unfortunately, when the two intersect, it causes feelings of anger and agressiveness.aggressiveness. Because of this, the Alerans and the Icemen are locked in a ForeverWar, with any attempt to negotiate an end to it sabotaged by this effect. [[spoiler: At least until an even bigger threat approaches Alera from the opposite direction and they ''really'' need every soldier they can spare, and the First Lord happens to send someone ''really'' good at watercrafting to make one last shot at brokering a ceasefire. Both sides are left feeling more than a bit silly after she figures it out.]]
3rd Mar '17 9:39:14 AM Steinman76
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** It's noteworthy that, as an adult, Sirius explained to Harry that James was offended by Snape's interest in the Dark Arts (and possibly his adulation of Voldemort). While it would certainly be more understandable if James didn't like Snape because he was the wizard equivalent of a Hitler Youth member who liked to tinker with pipe bombs, he doesn't articulate that very well.
25th Feb '17 12:51:10 AM Gorank
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I guess I'll never know”''\\
--'''Music/MinorThreat''', “No Reason”

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I guess I'll never know”''\\
--'''Music/MinorThreat''',
know”''
-->--'''Music/MinorThreat''',
“No Reason”
19th Feb '17 1:58:24 PM Fireblood
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmXpJuEnNnw This video]] by [=DarkMatter2525=], titled "Hate Speech", in which after a Christian tells an atheist how he is going to forever burn in Hell while he will bask in the glory of Heaven, and the atheist rebukes him by saying that he thinks that's ridiculous, the Christian [[{{Hypocrite}} accuses him of "hate speech" and "oppressing Christians"]].

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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmXpJuEnNnw This video]] by [=DarkMatter2525=], titled "Hate Speech", in which after a Christian tells an atheist how he is going to forever burn in Hell while he will bask in the glory of Heaven, and the atheist rebukes him by saying that he thinks that's ridiculous, the Christian [[{{Hypocrite}} accuses him of "hate speech" and "oppressing Christians"]]. Jesus himself then shows up (on the cross, no less) to tell him off over this.
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