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23rd Aug '17 3:49:14 PM Njein
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** [[spoiler:[[TragicVillain Prince Hans]] has two big weaknesses]]:
*** [[spoiler:[[StubbornMule A stubborn desire]] [[WellDoneSonGuy to seek the approval of his neglectful family]]. It's clearly stated in ''A Frozen Heart'' that they are outright abusive and neglectful towards him, not to mention Hans being the ExtremeDoormat and BlackSheep of the Westergaard clan, causing him to become a WellDoneSonGuy. His original intent was to escape from the Southern Isles for good and prove his worth to his family, and yet everything he did in his reckless pursuit of those goals had the exact opposite (and disastrous) results. Add in to the fact that he sees [[ManipulativeBastard people as objects]], [[CrapsackWorld thinks that it's a dog-eat-dog world out there]] [[TheSocialDarwinist with only the fittest surviving]], and [[LoveIsAWeakness views love as an exploitable weakness that's relegated to the weak-willed (namely Elsa and Anna)]], really shows how warped his POV had become over the years, [[EvilCannotComprehendGood rendering him unable to understand or even experience love]] thanks to a [[TykeBomb harsh upbringing]].]]

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** [[spoiler:[[TragicVillain Prince Hans]] has two big fatal weaknesses]]:
*** [[spoiler:[[StubbornMule A stubborn and single-minded desire]] [[WellDoneSonGuy to seek the approval of his neglectful family]]. It's clearly stated in ''A Frozen Heart'' that they are outright abusive and neglectful towards him, not to mention Hans being the ExtremeDoormat and BlackSheep of the Westergaard clan, causing him to become [[WellDoneSonGuy develop a WellDoneSonGuy. dogged obsession to prove his worth to his parents and twelve older brothers]]. His original intent was to escape from the Southern Isles for good and prove his worth to his family, and yet everything he did in his reckless pursuit of those goals had the exact opposite (and disastrous) results. results, and it also made him blind to realize that no matter how much of an effort he puts in, [[DisappointedInYou his family's low opinion]] [[WhyCouldntYouBeDifferent of him will never change]], even after sullying the family name in Arendelle. Add in to the fact that he sees [[ManipulativeBastard people as objects]], [[CrapsackWorld thinks that it's a dog-eat-dog world out there]] [[TheSocialDarwinist with only the fittest surviving]], and [[LoveIsAWeakness views love as an exploitable weakness that's relegated to the weak-willed (namely Elsa and Anna)]], really shows how warped his POV had become over the years, [[EvilCannotComprehendGood rendering him unable to understand or even experience love]] thanks to a an [[TykeBomb extremely harsh upbringing]].]]
23rd Aug '17 1:58:11 PM Njein
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*** [[spoiler:[[WellDoneSonGuy A desperate desire to seek the approval of]] [[ParentalNeglect his extremely distant father]] [[BigBrotherBully and abusive older brothers]]. It's clearly stated in ''A Frozen Heart'' that they are outright abusive and neglectful towards him, not to mention Hans being the ExtremeDoormat and BlackSheep of his family. His original intent was to escape from the Southern Isles for good and prove his worth to his family, and yet everything he did in his reckless pursuit of those goals had the exact opposite (and disastrous) results. Add in to the fact that he sees [[ManipulativeBastard people as objects]], [[CrapsackWorld thinks that it's a dog-eat-dog world out there]] [[TheSocialDarwinist with only the fittest surviving]], and [[LoveIsAWeakness views love as an exploitable weakness that's relegated to the weak-willed (namely Elsa and Anna)]], really shows how warped his POV had become over the years, [[EvilCannotComprehendGood rendering him unable to understand or even experience love]] thanks to a [[TykeBomb harsh upbringing]].]]

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*** [[spoiler:[[WellDoneSonGuy [[spoiler:[[StubbornMule A desperate desire stubborn desire]] [[WellDoneSonGuy to seek the approval of]] [[ParentalNeglect of his extremely distant father]] [[BigBrotherBully and abusive older brothers]]. neglectful family]]. It's clearly stated in ''A Frozen Heart'' that they are outright abusive and neglectful towards him, not to mention Hans being the ExtremeDoormat and BlackSheep of his family.the Westergaard clan, causing him to become a WellDoneSonGuy. His original intent was to escape from the Southern Isles for good and prove his worth to his family, and yet everything he did in his reckless pursuit of those goals had the exact opposite (and disastrous) results. Add in to the fact that he sees [[ManipulativeBastard people as objects]], [[CrapsackWorld thinks that it's a dog-eat-dog world out there]] [[TheSocialDarwinist with only the fittest surviving]], and [[LoveIsAWeakness views love as an exploitable weakness that's relegated to the weak-willed (namely Elsa and Anna)]], really shows how warped his POV had become over the years, [[EvilCannotComprehendGood rendering him unable to understand or even experience love]] thanks to a [[TykeBomb harsh upbringing]].]]
23rd Aug '17 1:40:44 PM Njein
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** Anna's has two big flaws:

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** Anna's Anna has two big flaws:



** [[spoiler:[[TragicVillain Prince Hans']] main flaw is [[WellDoneSonGuy his desperate desire to seek the approval of]] [[ParentalNeglect his extremely distant father]] [[BigBrotherBully and abusive older brothers]] - as it's clearly stated in ''A Frozen Heart'' that they are outright abusive and neglectful towards him, not to mention Hans being the ExtremeDoormat and BlackSheep of his family. His original intent was to escape from the Southern Isles for good and prove his worth to his family, and yet everything he did in his reckless pursuit of those goals had the exact opposite (and disastrous) results. Add in to the fact that he sees [[ManipulativeBastard people as objects]], [[CrapsackWorld thinks that it's a dog-eat-dog world out there]] [[TheSocialDarwinist with only the fittest surviving]], and [[LoveIsAWeakness views love as an exploitable weakness that's relegated to the weak-willed (namely Elsa and Anna)]], really shows how warped his POV had become over the years, [[EvilCannotComprehendGood rendering him unable to understand or even experience love]] thanks to a [[TykeBomb harsh upbringing]].]]

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** [[spoiler:[[TragicVillain Prince Hans']] main flaw is [[WellDoneSonGuy his Hans]] has two big weaknesses]]:
*** [[spoiler:[[WellDoneSonGuy A
desperate desire to seek the approval of]] [[ParentalNeglect his extremely distant father]] [[BigBrotherBully and abusive older brothers]] - as it's brothers]]. It's clearly stated in ''A Frozen Heart'' that they are outright abusive and neglectful towards him, not to mention Hans being the ExtremeDoormat and BlackSheep of his family. His original intent was to escape from the Southern Isles for good and prove his worth to his family, and yet everything he did in his reckless pursuit of those goals had the exact opposite (and disastrous) results. Add in to the fact that he sees [[ManipulativeBastard people as objects]], [[CrapsackWorld thinks that it's a dog-eat-dog world out there]] [[TheSocialDarwinist with only the fittest surviving]], and [[LoveIsAWeakness views love as an exploitable weakness that's relegated to the weak-willed (namely Elsa and Anna)]], really shows how warped his POV had become over the years, [[EvilCannotComprehendGood rendering him unable to understand or even experience love]] thanks to a [[TykeBomb harsh upbringing]].]]
*** [[spoiler:[[TheDeterminator Desperation]]. For all of Hans's skills at taking advantage of people's weaknesses, he ends up being unable to realize his own weakness gets the better of him every time. The plan he and Lars concocted was simple: meet Elsa, bond with her, get her interested in marrying him and he's earned his one-way ticket to escape from his family forever. The only drawback? He is ordered by his father to only stay in Arendelle one day. However, he ends up trying to take the route he thinks would be quicker and easier every time it presents itself. Originally to go after Elsa, he suddenly bumps into her younger sister Anna, and goes for her since she's more naive and lovesick, thus making her more likely to want to marry him after a few hours, but Elsa refused to bless their marriage and ordered the party over to make him leave, making Hans realize he may have to "[[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident stage an accident]]" for her. Anna then goes to bring her sister back and leaves Hans in charge, quickly accepting her offer as it gave him a chance to lead a kingdom, but he completely forgot that if Anna were to die then no one would be able to stop Elsa's winter. Near the end, Elsa accidentally struck Anna with her magic, so instead of being honest with her in a way that will at least make him look like a decent person, he chooses to break her heart and leave her to die without actually making sure she's dead before moving on with his plans. So in the end, all his plans, his chance to actually find love or friendship with either of the sisters, and his desire for a new life were destroyed because he was too stubbornly determined to be [[WellDoneSonGuy his father's favorite son]] and be free from his home.
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*** Also, their tendency [[EvilGloating to gloat about their plans]] and how they will kill Bond [[BondVillainStupidity is another problem]], as by then, 007 has already cooked up a plan B to escape and find a way to destroy the baddies. They are determined to justify themselves and their causes to Bond, giving him just enough time to escape and defeat the villains.

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*** Also, their BondVillainStupidity. Their tendency [[EvilGloating to gloat about their plans]] and how they will kill Bond [[BondVillainStupidity is another problem]], problem, as by then, 007 has already cooked up a plan B to escape and find a way to destroy the baddies. They are determined to justify themselves and their causes to Bond, giving him just enough time to escape and defeat the villains.
22nd Aug '17 8:06:41 PM Njein
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*** Also, their tendency [[EvilGloating to gloat about their plans]] and how they will kill Bond is another problem, as by then, 007 has already cooked up a plan B to escape and find a way to destroy the baddies. They are determined to justify themselves and their causes to Bond, giving him just enough time to escape and defeat the villains.

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*** Also, their tendency [[EvilGloating to gloat about their plans]] and how they will kill Bond [[BondVillainStupidity is another problem, problem]], as by then, 007 has already cooked up a plan B to escape and find a way to destroy the baddies. They are determined to justify themselves and their causes to Bond, giving him just enough time to escape and defeat the villains.



** ''Film/TheManWithTheGoldenGun'': Scaramanga holds 007 in too high of a regard. The novel version is opposite -- Scaramanga held a dim view of James Bond and refusing to estimate the threat 007 posed to him.

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** ''Film/TheManWithTheGoldenGun'': Scaramanga holds 007 in too high of a regard. The novel version is opposite -- Scaramanga held a dim view of James Bond and refusing to estimate underestimated the threat 007 posed to him.him.
** ''Film/TheSpyWhoLovedMe'': Karl Stromberg's obsession with the sea.



** ''Film/{{Octopussy}}'': General Orlov's HairTriggerTemper causes him to snap at people while arguing with them, seen most prominently in his confrontations with both General Gogol and James Bond. And he was also an [[TheSociopath insane sociopath]], [[LackOfEmpathy not caring]] that thousands of people would die due to his plan to invade Western Europe, and had a manic obsession of having the Warsaw Pact gaining full control of Europe and isolating the United States.

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** ''Film/{{Octopussy}}'': RenegadeRussian General Orlov's HairTriggerTemper causes him to snap at people while arguing with them, seen most prominently in his confrontations with both General Gogol and James Bond. And he was also an [[TheSociopath insane sociopath]], [[LackOfEmpathy not caring]] that thousands of people would die in the ensuing mayhem due to his plan to invade Western Europe, and had a manic obsession fixation of having the Warsaw Pact gaining full control of Europe and isolating the United States.



** ''Film/GoldenEye'': Xenia Onatopp and her sadistic behavior. Boris Grishenko and his [[{{Lust}} sexual deviousness]], [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder disloyalty]], [[SmugSnake arrogance and overconfidence]]. Alec Trevelyan and his [[{{Wrath}} extreme anger]] towards the British government. General Ourumov and [[SmugSnake his smugness]].
** ''Film/TomorrowNeverDies'': Elliot Carver's [[ItsAllAboutMe narcissism]] is a major problem, going so far as to decorate his headquarters and other places pertaining to his media empire, with tapestries and over sized banners that bear his visage. His EvilPlan to have China and the United Kingdom go to war against each other just to arrange a broadcasting deal with the new Chinese government shows his selfish behavior.

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** ''Film/GoldenEye'': ''Film/GoldenEye'':
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Xenia Onatopp and her sadistic behavior. behavior - murdering people turns her on, as shown during the Severnaya massacre, enough to get an EyeTake from Ourumov.
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Boris Grishenko and his [[{{Lust}} sexual deviousness]], [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder disloyalty]], [[SmugSnake arrogance and overconfidence]]. overconfidence]].
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Alec Trevelyan and his [[{{Wrath}} extreme anger]] towards the British government. anger]].
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General Ourumov and [[SmugSnake his smugness]].
** ''Film/TomorrowNeverDies'': Elliot Carver's [[ItsAllAboutMe narcissism]] is are a major problem, going so far as to decorate his headquarters and other places pertaining to his media empire, with tapestries and over sized banners that bear his visage. His EvilPlan to have China and the United Kingdom go to war against each other just to arrange a broadcasting deal with the new Chinese government shows his selfish behavior.
21st Aug '17 4:20:59 AM Njein
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** [[spoiler:[[TragicVillain Prince Hans']] main flaw is [[WellDoneSonGuy his desperate desire to seek the approval of]] [[ParentalNeglect his extremely distant father]] [[BigBrotherBully and abusive older brothers]] - as it's clearly stated in ''A Frozen Heart'' that they are outright abusive and neglectful towards him, not to mention Hans being the ExtremeDoormat and BlackSheep of his family. His original intent was to escape from the Southern Isles for good and prove his worth to his family, and yet everything he did in his reckless pursuit of those goals had the exact opposite (and disastrous) results. Add in to the fact that he sees [[ManipulativeBastard people as objects]], [[CrapsackWorld thinks that it's a dog-eat-dog world out there]] [[TheSocialDarwinist with only the fittest surviving]], and [[LoveIsAWeakness views love as an exploitable weakness whom the weak-minded can be fooled into doing]], really shows how warped his mind has become over the years, [[EvilCannotComprehendGood rendering him unable to understand or even experience love]] thanks to a [[TykeBomb harsh upbringing]].]]

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** [[spoiler:[[TragicVillain Prince Hans']] main flaw is [[WellDoneSonGuy his desperate desire to seek the approval of]] [[ParentalNeglect his extremely distant father]] [[BigBrotherBully and abusive older brothers]] - as it's clearly stated in ''A Frozen Heart'' that they are outright abusive and neglectful towards him, not to mention Hans being the ExtremeDoormat and BlackSheep of his family. His original intent was to escape from the Southern Isles for good and prove his worth to his family, and yet everything he did in his reckless pursuit of those goals had the exact opposite (and disastrous) results. Add in to the fact that he sees [[ManipulativeBastard people as objects]], [[CrapsackWorld thinks that it's a dog-eat-dog world out there]] [[TheSocialDarwinist with only the fittest surviving]], and [[LoveIsAWeakness views love as an exploitable weakness whom that's relegated to the weak-minded can be fooled into doing]], weak-willed (namely Elsa and Anna)]], really shows how warped his mind has POV had become over the years, [[EvilCannotComprehendGood rendering him unable to understand or even experience love]] thanks to a [[TykeBomb harsh upbringing]].]]



* ''Disney/{{Hercules}}'': [[HairTriggerTemper An explosive temper]]. It causes Hades to go through extreme mood swings - [[BerserkButton anything related to Hercules]] would cause him to ''literally explode'' in anger. His FlamingHair even tells what mood he is in - when it's blue, he's calm, [[BurningWithAnger but when he loses his temper, it turns red. And when he loses it completely, his whole head and arms become]] ''[[BurningWithAnger fountains]]'' [[BurningWithAnger of fire]].

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* ''Disney/{{Hercules}}'': [[HairTriggerTemper An explosive temper]]. It causes Hades to go through extreme mood swings - [[BerserkButton particularly, anything related to Hercules]] would cause make him to ''literally explode'' in anger. His FlamingHair even tells what mood he is in - when it's blue, he's calm, [[BurningWithAnger but when he loses his temper, it turns red. And when he loses it completely, his whole head and arms become]] ''[[BurningWithAnger fountains]]'' [[BurningWithAnger of fire]].
20th Aug '17 1:33:41 PM Njein
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** ''Film/TomorrowNeverDies'': Elliot Carver's [[ItsAllAboutMe narcissism]] are a major problem, going so far as to decorate his headquarters and other places pertaining to his media empire, with tapestries and over sized banners that bear his visage. His EvilPlan to have China and the United Kingdom go to war against each other just to arrange a broadcasting deal with the new Chinese government shows his selfish behavior.

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** ''Film/TomorrowNeverDies'': Elliot Carver's [[ItsAllAboutMe narcissism]] are is a major problem, going so far as to decorate his headquarters and other places pertaining to his media empire, with tapestries and over sized banners that bear his visage. His EvilPlan to have China and the United Kingdom go to war against each other just to arrange a broadcasting deal with the new Chinese government shows his selfish behavior.
20th Aug '17 1:03:39 PM Njein
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** Anna's major flaw is her impulsive naivete. It's best shown in how she rushes up the mountain Elsa's run off to with no protection from the cold, no plan to bring her back beyond talking her down somehow, and no idea she'd accomplish that. [[spoiler: To say nothing of her falling head-over-heels with Prince Hans, who turned out to be TheSociopath looking to gain the throne by any means necessary.]]
** [[spoiler:[[TragicVillain Prince Hans']] main flaw is [[WellDoneSonGuy his desperate desire to seek the approval of]] [[ParentalNeglect his extremely distant father]] [[BigBrotherBully and abusive older brothers]] - as it's clearly stated in ''A Frozen Heart'' that they are outright abusive and neglectful towards him, not to mention Hans being the ExtremeDoormat and BlackSheep of his family. His original intent was to escape from the Southern Isles for good and prove his worth to his family, and yet everything he did in his reckless pursuit of those goals had the exact opposite (and disastrous) results.]]

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** Anna's major flaw is her impulsive naivete. It's best shown in how she rushes up the mountain Elsa's run off to has two big flaws:
*** [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter Naivete]]. Anna fell head-over-heels
with no protection Prince Hans, [[spoiler:who turned out to be TheSociopath looking to gain the throne by any means necessary. And because Anna was so trusting of a complete stranger, this actually gave her a harsh lesson on trusting and understanding people.]]
*** [[ATragedyOfImpulsiveness Impulsiveness]] and [[LeeroyJenkins recklessness.]] Anna's recklessness as a child when Elsa pleaded with her to slow down when using her powers eventually resulted in Elsa isolating herself
from everyone including Anna. During the cold, no plan post-coronation, Anna pressured Elsa to bring give her back beyond talking an answer why Elsa was cutting her down somehow, and no idea she'd accomplish that. [[spoiler: To off in public which caused Elsa to accidentally reveal her powers in front of everyone. [[spoiler:To say nothing of her falling head-over-heels with Prince Hans, who turned out to be TheSociopath looking to gain the throne by any means necessary.a [[TheSociopath "frozen-hearted" sociopath]], really shows it.]]
** [[spoiler:[[TragicVillain Prince Hans']] main flaw is [[WellDoneSonGuy his desperate desire to seek the approval of]] [[ParentalNeglect his extremely distant father]] [[BigBrotherBully and abusive older brothers]] - as it's clearly stated in ''A Frozen Heart'' that they are outright abusive and neglectful towards him, not to mention Hans being the ExtremeDoormat and BlackSheep of his family. His original intent was to escape from the Southern Isles for good and prove his worth to his family, and yet everything he did in his reckless pursuit of those goals had the exact opposite (and disastrous) results. Add in to the fact that he sees [[ManipulativeBastard people as objects]], [[CrapsackWorld thinks that it's a dog-eat-dog world out there]] [[TheSocialDarwinist with only the fittest surviving]], and [[LoveIsAWeakness views love as an exploitable weakness whom the weak-minded can be fooled into doing]], really shows how warped his mind has become over the years, [[EvilCannotComprehendGood rendering him unable to understand or even experience love]] thanks to a [[TykeBomb harsh upbringing]].]]
19th Aug '17 2:15:44 PM Njein
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** ''Film/{{Octopussy}}'': General Orlov's HairTriggerTemper causes him to snap at people while arguing with them, seen most prominently in his confrontations with both General Gogol and James Bond. And he was also an [[TheSociopath insane sociopath]], [[LackOfEmpathy not caring]] that thousands of people would die due to his plan to invade Western Europe, and had a manic obsession of having the Warsaw Pact gaining full control of Europe and isolating the United States.
19th Aug '17 6:46:04 AM Njein
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** ''Film/TomorrowNeverDies'': Elliot Carver and his [[ItsAllAboutMe narcissism]] are a major problem, going so far as to decorate his headquarters and other places pertaining to his media empire, with tapestries and over sized banners that bear his visage. His EvilPlan to have China and the United Kingdom go to war against each other just to arrange a broadcasting deal with the new Chinese government shows his selfish behavior.

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** ''Film/TomorrowNeverDies'': Elliot Carver and his Carver's [[ItsAllAboutMe narcissism]] are a major problem, going so far as to decorate his headquarters and other places pertaining to his media empire, with tapestries and over sized banners that bear his visage. His EvilPlan to have China and the United Kingdom go to war against each other just to arrange a broadcasting deal with the new Chinese government shows his selfish behavior.
19th Aug '17 6:44:13 AM Njein
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** [[Film/{{Goldfinger}} Goldfinger]] and [[{{Greed}} his obsession and greed with all things gold]], and a penchant for cheating.

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** [[Film/{{Goldfinger}} Goldfinger]] and [[{{Greed}} his {{Greed}}, his obsession and greed with all things gold]], related to gold, and a penchant for cheating.



** ''Film/LiveAndLetDie'': Dr. Kananga and [[{{Pride}} his bloated ego]] brings him down. [[BondOneLiner As quipped by Bond]]: "[[SmallNameBigEgo He always did have an inflated opinion of himself]]."

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** ''Film/LiveAndLetDie'': Dr. Kananga and Kananga's [[{{Pride}} his bloated ego]] brings him down. [[BondOneLiner As quipped by Bond]]: "[[SmallNameBigEgo He always did have an inflated opinion of himself]]."
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