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23rd Jul '17 11:38:08 PM ex_ottoyuhr
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* Much of the criticism of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTacticsAdvance'' stems from the attempt to use an idealized fantasy world as a metaphor for escapism, with critics arguing that Alterna-Ivalice is just as "real" as Earth in any practical sense.

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* Much of the criticism of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTacticsAdvance'' stems from the attempt to use an idealized fantasy world as a metaphor for escapism, with critics arguing escapism; there's a [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation/FinalFantasy very strong case to be made]] that Alterna-Ivalice is just as "real" as Earth in any practical sense.real in-setting.
6th Jul '17 12:06:28 PM Julia1984
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* Many TimeTravel stories (ex. ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents'' episode "Father Time," the ''WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom'' episode "Masters Of All Time") try to teach a moral about accepting what you can't change, usually by having characters' attempts to change the past make the present/future worse instead of better. However, the message this almost always sends is "Don't use time travel to solve your problems because meddling with time can make things worse" -- not exactly a temptation the viewers will (likely) ever be tempted with.
5th Jul '17 5:26:04 PM RoarkTenjouin
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* The ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode "The Woman Who Lived" devotes a good deal of time to discussing the Aesop that "Just because you're immortal doesn't mean you should stop caring about mortals." [[/folder]]
* In ''Series/GoGoSentaiBoukenger'', the moral regarding Eiji/[[SixthRanger BoukenSilver]] (he's mixed race and fighting against his other half) would be a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop since he's fighting against his racially undesireable side...except it falls into this because he's a HalfHumanHybrid[[note]]he is part human, part Quester[[/note]], something you can't be in real life. Even then, it's somewhat justified, since with the exception of his mother, his non-human half is a race of literal monsters who desire destruction.


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* The page quote comes from ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'' story arc involving Calvin [[{{Snowlems}} bringing a snowman to life.]] The snowman became a vicious monster and created an army of "snow goons" that kept trying to kill Calvin. After defeating them by spraying them with the hose to freeze them solid, Calvin stated that he had learned a lesson from this misadventure: "Snow goons are bad news.", which he was glad was completely inapplicable.

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* The ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode "The Woman Who Lived" devotes a good deal of time to discussing the Aesop that "Just because you're immortal doesn't mean you should stop caring about mortals." [[/folder]]
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* In ''Series/GoGoSentaiBoukenger'', the moral regarding Eiji/[[SixthRanger BoukenSilver]] (he's mixed race and fighting against his other half) would be a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop since he's fighting against his racially undesireable side...except it falls into this because he's a HalfHumanHybrid[[note]]he is part human, part Quester[[/note]], something you can't be in real life. Even then, it's somewhat justified, since with the exception of his mother, his non-human half is a race of literal monsters who desire destruction.


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* The page quote comes from ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'' story arc involving Calvin [[{{Snowlems}} bringing a snowman to life.]] The snowman became a vicious monster and created an army of "snow goons" that kept trying to kill Calvin. After defeating them by spraying them with the hose to freeze them solid, Calvin stated that he had learned a lesson from this misadventure: "Snow goons are bad news.", which he was glad was completely inapplicable.
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* The page quote comes from ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'' story arc involving Calvin [[{{Snowlems}} bringing a snowman to life.]] The snowman became a vicious monster and created an army of "snow goons" that kept trying to kill Calvin. After defeating them by spraying them with the hose to freeze them solid, Calvin stated that he had learned a lesson from this misadventure: "Snow goons are bad news.", which he was glad was completely inapplicable.
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5th Jul '17 5:25:18 PM RoarkTenjouin
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* In ''Series/GoGoSentaiBoukenger'', the moral regarding Eiji/[[SixthRanger BoukenSilver]] (he's mixed race and fighting against his other half) would be a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop since he's fighting against his racially undesireable side...except it falls into this because he's a HalfHumanHybrid[[note]]he is part human, part Quester[[/note]], something you can't be in real life. Even then, it's somewhat justified, since with the exception of his mother, his non-human half is a race of literal monsters who desire destruction.

14th Jun '17 8:07:59 AM mogryo
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:: It may be worth mentioning that Riley was in a very dark place at the time, displaying overtly self-destructive tendencies verging on a death wish, and that people paying others to inflict pain on them is definitely not without real world precedent. Moreover, the KissOfTheVampire trope ''had'' been used before-Buffy being bitten by Angel and William (Spike) by Drusilla were both portrayed as painful at first, then pleasurable.
9th Jun '17 7:34:52 AM Morgenthaler
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** Even ignoring the threat of [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt the Spiral Nemesis]], the power to bring ''anybody'' back to life is pretty much a one-way ticket to disaster. The fact that Gimmy's list starts with Kamina and starts growing should give you an idea where I'm going with this: once you start, where do you stop? If you can resurrect your friends, why are all the other victims you ''didn't'' personally know any less deserving? [[http://www.kiwisbybeat.com/minus119.html This]] {{minus}} comic might have the answer to that...

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** Even ignoring the threat of [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt the Spiral Nemesis]], the power to bring ''anybody'' back to life is pretty much a one-way ticket to disaster. The fact that Gimmy's list starts with Kamina and starts growing should give you an idea where I'm going with this: once you start, where do you stop? If you can resurrect your friends, why are all the other victims you ''didn't'' personally know any less deserving? [[http://www.kiwisbybeat.com/minus119.html This]] {{minus}} Webcomic/{{minus}} comic might have the answer to that...
2nd Jun '17 3:11:30 AM jormis29
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* George Romero's ''Film/LivingDeadSeries'' is another example that puts forth the idea that [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans, for all their claims of being civilized, are really savages]] and that a supernatural species, in this case the zombies, are people too. This aesop became more emphasized as the films went on. ''Film/LandOfTheDead'' eventually went so far as to give the zombies their own storyline with a SympatheticPOV, and presenting their invasion of the last remaining human city, which was run by a CorruptCorporateExecutive and his private army, as a liberation for the oppressed humans. The problem with this is that while the zombies are too animalistic to be considered truly ''malevolent'', they are still undeniably ''dangerous'' predators whose biology demands that [[HungryMenace they feast on human flesh]]. During their assault towards Fiddler's Green, the zombies consumed just as many of the destitute poor as the corrupt rich, which the film glosses over.

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* George Romero's Creator/GeorgeARomero's ''Film/LivingDeadSeries'' is another example that puts forth the idea that [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans, for all their claims of being civilized, are really savages]] and that a supernatural species, in this case the zombies, are people too. This aesop became more emphasized as the films went on. ''Film/LandOfTheDead'' eventually went so far as to give the zombies their own storyline with a SympatheticPOV, and presenting their invasion of the last remaining human city, which was run by a CorruptCorporateExecutive and his private army, as a liberation for the oppressed humans. The problem with this is that while the zombies are too animalistic to be considered truly ''malevolent'', they are still undeniably ''dangerous'' predators whose biology demands that [[HungryMenace they feast on human flesh]]. During their assault towards Fiddler's Green, the zombies consumed just as many of the destitute poor as the corrupt rich, which the film glosses over.
29th May '17 8:11:13 PM Steam_Lord
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** '''Failed Metaphor:''' A resurrection spell would bring the loved one back [[DeathIsCheap without trouble]], but the characters act as if it wouldn't, often for no reason other than "[[HumansAreFlawed death is a part of life]] and [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption must be accepted]]" when they use magic to solve problems every day. Variation: they ''do'' use the magic to bring their loved one back from the dead. The lesson for our impressionable young viewers? Magic can bring your loved ones back from the dead; enroll in magic school today!

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** '''Failed Metaphor:''' A resurrection spell would bring the loved one back [[DeathIsCheap without trouble]], but the characters act as if it wouldn't, often for no reason other than "[[HumansAreFlawed death is a part of life]] and [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption must be accepted]]" when they use magic to solve problems every day. day.
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Variation: they ''do'' use the magic to bring their loved one back from the dead. The lesson for our impressionable young viewers? Magic can bring your loved ones back from the dead; enroll in magic school today!



** '''Failed Metaphor:''' Time travel exists, but the characters think they shouldn't use it to benefit either themselves, loved ones, or [[ReedRichardsIsUseless humanity in general]] because, like Resurrection: "It [[ScienceIsBad isn't natural]], you should [[ApatheticCitizens accept the past for how it is]]." Variation: they ''do'' use time travel to make everything better. The lesson for our viewers today is that they should get busy inventing that time machine.

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** '''Failed Metaphor:''' Time travel exists, but the characters think they shouldn't use it to benefit either themselves, loved ones, or [[ReedRichardsIsUseless humanity in general]] because, like Resurrection: "It [[ScienceIsBad isn't natural]], you should [[ApatheticCitizens accept the past for how it is]]." "
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Variation: they ''do'' use time travel to make everything better. The lesson for our viewers today is that they should get busy inventing that time machine.



** '''Failed Metaphor:''' Immortality works as advertised, but characters should not seek it because, well, [[WhoWantsToLiveForever you wouldn't really want it anyway, trust me]] (even though the author has no actual experience with immortality, somehow they [[SourGrapesTropes just]] ''[[SourGrapesTropes know]]'' [[SourGrapesTropes it would suck]]). Oddly, even in worlds where immortals aren't indestructible, they [[ICannotSelfTerminate never simply choose to commit suicide]] if they ''really'' decide that 1,000 years is enough. Variation: no tricks and no hidden costs, LivingForeverIsAwesome after all. So you should go live forever... somehow.

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** '''Failed Metaphor:''' Immortality works as advertised, but characters should not seek it because, well, [[WhoWantsToLiveForever you wouldn't really want it anyway, trust me]] (even though the author has no actual experience with immortality, somehow they [[SourGrapesTropes just]] ''[[SourGrapesTropes know]]'' [[SourGrapesTropes it would suck]]). Oddly, even in worlds where immortals aren't indestructible, they [[ICannotSelfTerminate never simply choose to commit suicide]] if they ''really'' decide that 1,000 years is enough. enough.
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Variation: no tricks and no hidden costs, LivingForeverIsAwesome after all. So you should go live forever... somehow.
9th May '17 10:48:20 AM bificommander
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* The second ''{{Film/Hellboy}}'' film has a similar message as the ''X Men'' movies, with the same problem. The {{Muggle}}s are portrayed as nasty little shits for being afraid of Hellboy. Even ignoring that Hellboy (both the person and movie) [[WhatMeasureIsANonUnique doesn't show much concern for regular humans' lives]], there's the problem that he doesn't just look like a devil sent from Hell to bring destruction to the world of man, he actually ''is'' just that. In the previous movie he was seconds away from dooming the world. And this movie reveals that he had the human who stopped him doing that literally ReassignedToAntarctica, and an Angel states that the powers that be still fully expect that he'll destroy earth at some point.

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* The second ''{{Film/Hellboy}}'' film has a similar message as the ''X Men'' movies, with the same problem. The {{Muggle}}s are portrayed as nasty little shits for being afraid of Hellboy. Even ignoring that Hellboy (both the person and movie) [[WhatMeasureIsANonUnique doesn't show much concern for regular humans' lives]], there's the problem that he doesn't just look like a devil sent from Hell to bring destruction to the world of man, he actually ''is'' just that. In the previous movie he was seconds away from dooming the world. And this movie reveals that he had the human who stopped him doing that literally ReassignedToAntarctica, and an Angel states that the powers that be still fully expect that he'll destroy earth at some point. \n The humans he encounters may be judging a book by it's cover, but the contents of this particular book happen to be just as scary it seemed.
9th May '17 10:45:47 AM bificommander
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* The second ''{{Film/Hellboy}}'' film has a similar message as the ''X Men'' movies, with the same problem. The {{Muggle}}s are portrayed as nasty little shits for being afraid of Hellboy. Even ignoring that Hellboy (both the person and movie) [[WhatMeasureIsANonUnique doesn't show much concern for regular humans' lives]], there's the problem that he doesn't just look like a devil sent from Hell to bring destruction to the world of man, he actually ''is'' just that. In the previous movie he was seconds away from dooming the world. And this movie reveals that he had the human who stopped him doing that literally ReassignedToAntarctica, and an Angel states that the powers that be still fully expect that he'll destroy earth at some point.
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