History Main / FamilyUnFriendlyAesop

12th Feb '16 6:57:46 AM Sapphirea2
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** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E11DarkWater "Dark Water"]], Clara is willing to stab the Doctor in the back, cut the Doctor off from the TARDIS forever and possibly condemn both himself and her to a death in lava just because the Doctor won't break the laws of time to save her boyfriend, and while this isn't portrayed entirely sympathetically (and Clara breaks down into tears upon realising what she's doing) the Doctor reveals he was testing her to see how far she would go and tells her "Do you think I care about you so little that your betrayal means anything?" Both sides of this are loaded with unfortunate readings as the Aesop seems to be that unconditional love even forgives really bad things -- at least if the beloved is genuinely sorry. Compare the next season's finale "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E12HellBent Hell Bent]]", in which the Doctor (as a result of a TraumaCongaLine turning him into a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds) [[spoiler: breaks the laws of time -- which threatens to ''destroy the universe'' -- just to save an unwilling Clara from her fixed-point death. She stands up to his selfishness but also implicitly forgives him...'''but''' he's realized his love for her is unhealthy and not only lets her go, but ends up being mind-wiped of memories of her -- seeing his unhappy fate as a way of making amends for his selfish actions]]. And then compare his situation to those of...
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** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E11DarkWater "Dark Water"]], Clara is willing to stab the Doctor in the back, cut the Doctor off from the TARDIS forever and possibly condemn both himself and her to a death in lava just because the Doctor won't break the laws of time to save her boyfriend, and while this isn't portrayed entirely sympathetically (and Clara breaks down into tears upon realising what she's doing) the Doctor reveals he was testing her to see how far she would go and tells her "Do you think I care about you so little that your betrayal means anything?" Both sides of this are loaded with unfortunate readings as the Aesop aesop seems to be that unconditional love even forgives really bad things -- at least if the beloved is genuinely sorry. Compare the next season's finale "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E12HellBent Hell Bent]]", in which the Doctor (as a result of a TraumaCongaLine turning him into a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds) [[spoiler: breaks the laws of time -- which threatens to ''destroy the universe'' -- just to save an unwilling Clara from her fixed-point death. She stands up to his selfishness but also implicitly forgives him...'''but''' he's realized he realizes his love for her is unhealthy for everyone and not only lets her go, go but also ends up being mind-wiped of memories of her -- seeing his unhappy fate as a way of making amends for his selfish actions]]. actions]]. And then compare his situation to those of...
12th Feb '16 6:43:14 AM Sapphirea2
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** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E6TheAlmostPeople "The Almost People"]]. Gangers are people too. If the original is dead that is. If not then they should be used as suicide bombers to take out enemies even though the originals could do the same job with no risk to themselves.
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** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E6TheAlmostPeople "The Almost People"]]. Gangers are people too. If too -- if the original is dead that is. If not then they should be used as suicide bombers to take out enemies even though the originals could do the same job with no risk to themselves.

** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E11DarkWater "Dark Water"]], Clara is willing to stab the Doctor in the back, cut the Doctor off from the TARDIS forever and possibly condemn both himself and her to a death in lava just because the Doctor won't break the laws of time to save her boyfriend, and while this isn't portrayed entirely sympathetically (and Clara breaks down into tears upon realising what she's doing) the Doctor says he was testing her to see how far she would go and tells her "do you think I care about you so little that your betrayal means anything?" Both sides of this are loaded with unfortunate readings - the aesop seems to be that unconditional love even forgives really bad things - at least if the beloved is genuinely sorry. ** Rose Tyler and River Song both make comments about how their love for the Doctor is so deep that losing him would be worse than destroying the universe (or in Rose's case two), which some critics say sends a message that if you love someone, they should be the center of your world and you should be completely selfish in pursuing them. Made worse as though River is called out on her actions and ends up maturing. Rose is [[KarmaHoudini basically]] rewarded for this and always treated well for her selfish behavior.
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** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E11DarkWater "Dark Water"]], Clara is willing to stab the Doctor in the back, cut the Doctor off from the TARDIS forever and possibly condemn both himself and her to a death in lava just because the Doctor won't break the laws of time to save her boyfriend, and while this isn't portrayed entirely sympathetically (and Clara breaks down into tears upon realising what she's doing) the Doctor says reveals he was testing her to see how far she would go and tells her "do "Do you think I care about you so little that your betrayal means anything?" Both sides of this are loaded with unfortunate readings - as the aesop Aesop seems to be that unconditional love even forgives really bad things - -- at least if the beloved is genuinely sorry. sorry. Compare the next season's finale "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E12HellBent Hell Bent]]", in which the Doctor (as a result of a TraumaCongaLine turning him into a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds) [[spoiler: breaks the laws of time -- which threatens to ''destroy the universe'' -- just to save an unwilling Clara from her fixed-point death. She stands up to his selfishness but also implicitly forgives him...'''but''' he's realized his love for her is unhealthy and not only lets her go, but ends up being mind-wiped of memories of her -- seeing his unhappy fate as a way of making amends for his selfish actions]]. And then compare his situation to those of... ** Rose Tyler and River Song both Song. Both make comments about how their love for the Doctor is so deep that losing him would be worse than destroying the universe (or in Rose's case two), which some critics say sends a message that if you love someone, they should be the center of your world and you should be completely selfish in pursuing them. them. Made worse as though River is called out on her actions and ends up maturing. in that Rose is [[KarmaHoudini basically]] rewarded for this and always treated well for her selfish behavior.behavior, but River and the Doctor are not in their respective stories; rather, they are called out on their actions and end up maturing as a result. Indeed, "Hell Bent" argues an opposite Aesop to Rose's Series 4 actions, and "The Husbands of River Song" (the very next episode) actually rewards River and the Doctor for their hard-won maturity by [[spoiler: granting them twenty-four happy years together]] when their paths cross once more.
10th Feb '16 12:07:48 PM dotchan
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* ''VideoGame/LegendOfMana'': InUniverse, the prevailing opinion is BeYourself (even if said self is a JerkAss OmnicidalManiac) and that the ends justify the means (even if your ultimate goal is TheEndOfTheWorldAsYouKnowIt). RealityEnsues--the world is a mess as a result and ItsUpToYou to solve everyone's problems.
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* ''VideoGame/LegendOfMana'': InUniverse, the prevailing opinion is BeYourself (even if said self is a JerkAss OmnicidalManiac) and that the ends justify the means (even if your ultimate goal is TheEndOfTheWorldAsYouKnowIt).TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt). RealityEnsues--the world is a mess as a result and ItsUpToYou to solve everyone's problems.

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10th Feb '16 12:06:57 PM dotchan
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* ''VideoGame/LegendOfMana'': InUniverse, the prevailing opinion is BeYourself (even if said self is a JerkAss OmnicidalManiac) and that the ends justify the means (even if your ultimate goal is TheEndOfTheWorldAsYouKnowIt). RealityEnsues--the world is a mess as a result and ItsUpToYou to solve everyone's problems.
8th Feb '16 10:19:58 PM merotoker
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* ''LightNovel/FateZero'' has [[AntiHero Kiritsigu Emiya]] always killing [[TheNeedsOfTheMany the few to save the many]] but realizing that even by killing people he deems evil, he'll never create a world free of evil, cruelty, suffering and conflict. So he consults a wish granting device, the Holy Grail, after a long bloody war to get the miracle of world peace. [[spoiler:The Holy Grail decides the only way for the world to have peace is for all beings capable of conflict to be dead, so there will be an absence of conflict.]] Needless to say, Kiritsugu was bothered by the implications that humanity is not capable of ever lasting peace. It should be noted, however, that [[spoiler:the Grail had been corrupted such that it would twist any wish it could into a wish for worldwide destruction.]]
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* ''LightNovel/FateZero'' has [[AntiHero Kiritsigu Emiya]] always killing [[TheNeedsOfTheMany the few to save the many]] but realizing that even by killing people he deems evil, he'll never create a world free of evil, cruelty, suffering and conflict. So he consults a wish granting device, the Holy Grail, after a long bloody war to get the miracle of world peace. [[spoiler:The Holy Grail decides the only way for the world to have peace is for all beings capable of conflict to be dead, so there will be an absence of conflict.]] Needless to say, Kiritsugu was bothered by the implications that humanity is not capable of ever lasting peace. It should be noted, however, that [[spoiler:the Grail had been corrupted such that it would twist any wish it could into a wish for worldwide destruction.]]destruction]].

* ECComics story "Beauty and the Beach!" (''Shock [=SuspenStories=]'' #7): Attractive young wives should stay home and look after their children. Those who instead prefer to pursue lucrative careers ("I'm making more money now than you'll ever make") and win public admiration deserve {{Karmic Death}}s at their husbands' hands. Even for the 1950s, this seems rather mean-spirited.
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* ECComics Creator/ECComics story "Beauty and the Beach!" (''Shock [=SuspenStories=]'' #7): Attractive young wives should stay home and look after their children. Those who instead prefer to pursue lucrative careers ("I'm making more money now than you'll ever make") and win public admiration deserve {{Karmic Death}}s at their husbands' hands. Even for the 1950s, this seems rather mean-spirited.

* The ''ComicBook/ChickTract'' "Lisa" was heavily freighted with UnfortunateImplications and several rather disturbing {{Accidental Aesop}}s, which is probably why Jack Chick [[OldShame ceased publishing it long ago]]. Its ''intended'' Aesop by itself, however, remains as edgy and controversial as ever to this day: that while child molesters are indeed terrible sinners, they're just as human and need forgiveness and salvation just as much as any other kind of terrible sinners (e.g. rape merchants, mass murderers, terrorists, and despots). Also, as the doctor who saves the child molester in the comic points out, the VillainProtagonist was already headed to Hell for his "lesser" sins long before he took up raping his little daughter; by implication, we readers shouldn't think ourselves safe from damnation just because we haven't committed any sins as terrible as this guy. (Also, that means [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil rape is]] ''[[AvertedTrope not]]'' [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil such a special kind of evil]] after all.)
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* The ''ComicBook/ChickTract'' ''ComicBook/{{Chick Tract|s}}'' "Lisa" was heavily freighted with UnfortunateImplications and several rather disturbing {{Accidental Aesop}}s, which is probably why Jack Chick [[OldShame ceased publishing it long ago]]. Its ''intended'' Aesop by itself, however, remains as edgy and controversial as ever to this day: that while child molesters are indeed terrible sinners, they're just as human and need forgiveness and salvation just as much as any other kind of terrible sinners (e.g. rape merchants, mass murderers, terrorists, and despots). Also, as the doctor who saves the child molester in the comic points out, the VillainProtagonist was already headed to Hell for his "lesser" sins long before he took up raping his little daughter; by implication, we readers shouldn't think ourselves safe from damnation just because we haven't committed any sins as terrible as this guy. (Also, that means [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil rape is]] ''[[AvertedTrope not]]'' [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil such a special kind of evil]] after all.)

* ''Into the Woods'' added "It's probably not a good idea to marry someone you just met" Aesops to the ''{{Literature/Cinderella}}'' and ''{{Literature/Rapunzel}}'' stories. Cinderella's prince is a philanderer (probably ''both'' of them are, it's just that Cinderella's is the only one who explicitly does it on or rather just off stage), whereas Rapunzel is somewhat crazy. The only original story Aesop it leaves intact is ''Literature/LittleRedRidingHood'''s Aesop of "Don't talk to strangers," who became a good deal creepier (as a bonus, traditionally the wolf is played by the same actor who plays Cinderella's prince). Near the end, we get an Aesop of "Listen to people who know what they're talking about, even if they're witches." And the overarching moral is "don't tell your children stories that feature a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop, because it ''will'' mess them up."
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* ''Into the Woods'' added "It's probably not a good idea to marry someone you just met" Aesops to the ''{{Literature/Cinderella}}'' and ''{{Literature/Rapunzel}}'' stories. Cinderella's prince is a philanderer (probably ''both'' of them are, it's just that Cinderella's is the only one who explicitly does it on or rather just off stage), whereas Rapunzel is somewhat crazy. The only original story Aesop it leaves intact is ''Literature/LittleRedRidingHood'''s Aesop of "Don't talk to strangers," who became a good deal creepier (as a bonus, traditionally the wolf is played by the same actor who plays Cinderella's prince). Near the end, we get an Aesop of "Listen to people who know what they're talking about, even if they're witches." And the overarching moral is "don't tell your children stories that feature a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop, Family Unfriendly Aesop, because it ''will'' mess them up."

* The oldest version of SleepingBeauty, ''Sun, Moon and Talia'', features the titular heroine getting raped by the king, which results in a pregnancy and leads to her being awoken. When the king returns, he proceeds to sneak Talia and their twin children into his castle so that his ''wife'' won't find out, which she does and tries to kill all three but is found out and put to death, allowing the king to marry Talia, which is presented as a happy ending. So, apparently, raping someone and cheating on your wife is fine so long as you marry your victim, you should marry your rapist, and if your husband cheats on you, and you want revenge, you're the bad person.
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* The oldest version of SleepingBeauty, ''Sun, Moon and Talia'', ''Literature/SleepingBeauty'', ''Literature/SunMoonAndTalia'', features the titular heroine getting raped by the king, which results in a pregnancy and leads to her being awoken. When the king returns, he proceeds to sneak Talia and their twin children into his castle so that his ''wife'' won't find out, which she does and tries to kill all three but is found out and put to death, allowing the king to marry Talia, which is presented as a happy ending. So, apparently, raping someone and cheating on your wife is fine so long as you marry your victim, you should marry your rapist, and if your husband cheats on you, and you want revenge, you're the bad person.

* In the original version of "The Frog Prince," the princess doesn't change the frog back into a prince by learning how to be courteous to him and kissing him; she does it by getting so fed up with his requests that she ''throws him against a wall'' so hard that his frog skin splits open. Remember, kids: if you want to land a handsome prince, refuse to honor your promises, be as bratty as possible, ''and'' feel free to inflict violence upon someone who helped you when he didn't have to!
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* In the original version of "The Frog Prince," "Literature/TheFrogPrince," the princess doesn't change the frog back into a prince by learning how to be courteous to him and kissing him; she does it by getting so fed up with his requests that she ''throws him against a wall'' so hard that his frog skin splits open. Remember, kids: if you want to land a handsome prince, refuse to honor your promises, be as bratty as possible, ''and'' feel free to inflict violence upon someone who helped you when he didn't have to!

* The movie ''Film/RocketScience'' viciously deconstructs the popular "try your hardest and you can overcome anything" moral. Some obstacles just can't be surmounted no matter how hard you try. And sometimes you just [[DidNotGetTheGirl Don't Get The Girl]]. Oh, and life isn't fair. All in all, it's fairly {{Anvilicious}} about the whole thing, but SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.
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* The movie ''Film/RocketScience'' viciously deconstructs the popular "try your hardest and you can overcome anything" moral. Some obstacles just can't be surmounted no matter how hard you try. And sometimes you just [[DidNotGetTheGirl Don't Get The Girl]]. Oh, and life isn't fair. All in all, it's fairly {{Anvilicious}} about the whole thing, but SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped.

* ''Perelandra'', the second book of the ''Literature/TheSpaceTrilogy'' by Creator/CSLewis. The plot of the book is that the planet Venus is in the "Adam and Eve" phase and the devil has sent his agent-a man named Professor Weston-to corrupt "Eve." The angels send a man named Elwin Ransom to make sure that Tinidril chooses wisely. In the end, good triumphs over evil, but in an unexpected way: [[spoiler:Ransom kills Weston and drops his body into a volcano.]] This is actually {{lampshade|Hanging}}d by the protagonist, [[spoiler:who assumed that the fight would be purely intellectual, that he would win by the sheer force of his argument, and was initially horrified at the idea that he'd have to make the fight a physical one.]] It was very much a TakeThat at the pacifists who opposed Great Britain's military opposition to the evils of Nazi Germany and promoted Neville Chamberlain's appeasement policy, and against the anti-confrontational passivity that was popular in much of the liberal Christian community.
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* ''Perelandra'', the second book of the ''Literature/TheSpaceTrilogy'' by Creator/CSLewis. The plot of the book is that the planet Venus is in the "Adam and Eve" phase and the devil has sent his agent-a man named Professor Weston-to corrupt "Eve." The angels send a man named Elwin Ransom to make sure that Tinidril chooses wisely. In the end, good triumphs over evil, but in an unexpected way: [[spoiler:Ransom kills Weston and drops his body into a volcano.]] This is actually {{lampshade|Hanging}}d by the protagonist, [[spoiler:who assumed that the fight would be purely intellectual, that he would win by the sheer force of his argument, and was initially horrified at the idea that he'd have to make the fight a physical one.]] one]]. It was very much a TakeThat at the pacifists who opposed Great Britain's military opposition to the evils of Nazi Germany and promoted Neville Chamberlain's appeasement policy, and against the anti-confrontational passivity that was popular in much of the liberal Christian community.

* The ''Series/TheBigBangTheory" episode "The Table for Polarization" has [[AmbiguousDisorder Sheldon]] get grumpy over a new kitchen table; when he gets his own way at the end he smugly tells Leonard "Sometimes the baby wins."
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* The ''Series/TheBigBangTheory" ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'' episode "The Table for Polarization" has [[AmbiguousDisorder Sheldon]] get grumpy over a new kitchen table; when he gets his own way at the end he smugly tells Leonard "Sometimes the baby wins."

* GrowingPains has one that comes as quite a surprise. Plenty of shows do episodes about not idolizing celebrities, so it comes as no surprise to see an episode in which Ben walks in on his favorite singer having an affair. However, most such episodes end on the note of the celebrity being a BrokenPedestal... instead, this episode continues with Jason explaining to Ben that the morality of a celebrity is not what causes us to enjoy their art, so it should not be a consideration in whether or not we continue to do so. They end up going to the singer's concert anyway.
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* GrowingPains ''Series/GrowingPains'' has one that comes as quite a surprise. Plenty of shows do episodes about not idolizing celebrities, so it comes as no surprise to see an episode in which Ben walks in on his favorite singer having an affair. However, most such episodes end on the note of the celebrity being a BrokenPedestal... instead, this episode continues with Jason explaining to Ben that the morality of a celebrity is not what causes us to enjoy their art, so it should not be a consideration in whether or not we continue to do so. They end up going to the singer's concert anyway.

* ''Series/FreaksAndGeeks'' could deliver a pretty FamilyUnfriendlyAesop on occasion:
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* ''Series/FreaksAndGeeks'' could deliver a pretty FamilyUnfriendlyAesop one on occasion:

** Some - but not all - of these aesops are in the process of being reversed now that [[spoiler: Rumplestiltskin has lost nearly everything he had because he refused to change. He and Regina even discuss the "if you're sneaky about it, you can get everything" aesop shortly before Rumples point of view is proven wrong.]]
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** Some - but not all - of these aesops are in the process of being reversed now that [[spoiler: Rumplestiltskin has lost nearly everything he had because he refused to change. He and Regina even discuss the "if you're sneaky about it, you can get everything" aesop shortly before Rumples point of view is proven wrong.]]wrong]].

* TheWho's "Won't Get Fooled Again" is the [[TropeNamer namer]] for [[MeetTheNewBoss a trope of this nature]] which translates to "revolution is futile because the person in charge is always going to make it tough for everyone else". Occasionally, Pete Townshend has put a more positive twist on this as "Don't listen to the boss in the first place. Think for yourself."
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* TheWho's Music/TheWho's "Won't Get Fooled Again" is the [[TropeNamer [[TropeNamers namer]] for [[MeetTheNewBoss a trope of this nature]] which translates to "revolution is futile because the person in charge is always going to make it tough for everyone else". Occasionally, Pete Townshend has put a more positive twist on this as "Don't listen to the boss in the first place. Think for yourself."

* The trope picture comes from ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'', and the mom ends up grudgingly giving him the pie. Calvin is clearly portrayed as a brat, though.
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* The trope picture comes from ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'', ''ComicStrip/{{Calvin and Hobbes}}'', and the mom ends up grudgingly giving him the pie. Calvin is clearly portrayed as a brat, though.

* Parodied in TeamStarKid's ''[[Theatre/TwistedTheUntoldStoryOfARoyalVizier Twisted]]''. The opening number "Dream A Little Harder" pokes fun at the family unfriendly morals offered up by some Disney animated fairy-tales: "If you're [[BeautyEqualsGoodness good and you're attractive]], / No need to be proactive: / Good things will just [[{{Disney/Cinderella}} happen]] [[Disney/SleepingBeauty to]] [[Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs you]]!", and "If you're sure of your intention, / Some [[{{Disney/Cinderella}} magic]] [[{{Disney/Aladdin}} intervention]] / Will give you the edge that you need!"
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* Parodied in TeamStarKid's Creator/TeamStarKid's ''[[Theatre/TwistedTheUntoldStoryOfARoyalVizier Twisted]]''. The opening number "Dream A Little Harder" pokes fun at the family unfriendly morals offered up by some Disney animated fairy-tales: "If you're [[BeautyEqualsGoodness good and you're attractive]], / No need to be proactive: / Good things will just [[{{Disney/Cinderella}} happen]] [[Disney/SleepingBeauty to]] [[Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs you]]!", and "If you're sure of your intention, / Some [[{{Disney/Cinderella}} magic]] [[{{Disney/Aladdin}} intervention]] / Will give you the edge that you need!"

* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. There is a quest called Tenpenny Tower, about a luxurious hotel inhabited by prejudiced humans and a nearby gang of civilized ghouls (a form of monstrously mutated human) who want to live in it. There are three ways to solve this quest -- [[spoiler: Two of them involve killing either party and being rewarded by the other for it. The final option is, through a lot of tedious diplomacy, to convince the humans to let the ghouls live alongside them, and it ends with the two species coexisting peacefully and happy-happy. Except, a few days later, all the human inhabitants have been slaughtered by the ghouls.]] Sometimes the oppressed, when presented with the opportunity, can be just as inhuman as the oppressors.
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* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. There is a quest called Tenpenny Tower, about a luxurious hotel inhabited by prejudiced humans and a nearby gang of civilized ghouls (a form of monstrously mutated human) who want to live in it. There are three ways to solve this quest -- [[spoiler: Two of them involve killing either party and being rewarded by the other for it. The final option is, through a lot of tedious diplomacy, to convince the humans to let the ghouls live alongside them, and it ends with the two species coexisting peacefully and happy-happy. Except, a few days later, all the human inhabitants have been slaughtered by the ghouls.]] ghouls]]. Sometimes the oppressed, when presented with the opportunity, can be just as inhuman as the oppressors.

* And while on the subject of Sandra K. Fuhr, one of the possible endings to ''Webcomic/FriendlyHostility'' teaches us that [[spoiler: even with the best intentions, you can't force a relationship to last.]]
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* And while on the subject of Sandra K. Fuhr, one of the possible endings to ''Webcomic/FriendlyHostility'' teaches us that [[spoiler: even with the best intentions, you can't force a relationship to last.]]last]].

* HonestTrailers [[DiscussedTrope discusses this trope]] whenever they make a video of a children's movie. Notably with ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'', as mentioned above.
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* HonestTrailers WebVido/HonestTrailers [[DiscussedTrope discusses this trope]] whenever they make a video of a children's movie. Notably with ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'', as mentioned above.

* In the live recordings of WhatTheFuckIsWrongWithYou, whenever they cover a news story involving inept criminals, Tara has a habit of pointing out everything they did wrong and what they could've done better, to the point that Nash jokingly calls those segments "How To Be A Better Criminal." * {{Cracked}} gives us [[http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_974_18-adult-lessons-you-missed-in-famous-kids-shows/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=fanpage&utm_campaign=new+article&wa_ibsrc=fanpage 18 Adult Lessons You Missed in Famous Kids Shows.]]
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* In the live recordings of WhatTheFuckIsWrongWithYou, ''WebVideo/WhatTheFuckIsWrongWithYou'', whenever they cover a news story involving inept criminals, Tara has a habit of pointing out everything they did wrong and what they could've done better, to the point that Nash jokingly calls those segments "How To Be A Better Criminal." * {{Cracked}} Website/{{Cracked}} gives us [[http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_974_18-adult-lessons-you-missed-in-famous-kids-shows/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=fanpage&utm_campaign=new+article&wa_ibsrc=fanpage 18 Adult Lessons You Missed in Famous Kids Shows.]]

** Subverted in the case where the series as a whole, but the finale in particular, looked for awhile to be building up to a very FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: that sometimes ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer. Aang spoke with all of his past lives and was told by Roku, indirectly, about how many lives they could have saved if they had "acted decisively," and by Kyoshi and Yangchen how they were willing to do "anything" to save the lives of millions of people, and that as Avatar his duty was to put the well-being of the people of the world over his own path to enlightenment. Kuruk was the only one who provided a clear opposition to the idea, advising Aang to "actively shape your own destiny." Ultimately Aang chose to go with Kuruk's advice and was given a way to stop Ozai for good without having to kill him.
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** Subverted in the case where the series as a whole, but the finale in particular, looked for awhile to be building up to a very FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: family unfriendly aesop: that sometimes ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer. Aang spoke with all of his past lives and was told by Roku, indirectly, about how many lives they could have saved if they had "acted decisively," and by Kyoshi and Yangchen how they were willing to do "anything" to save the lives of millions of people, and that as Avatar his duty was to put the well-being of the people of the world over his own path to enlightenment. Kuruk was the only one who provided a clear opposition to the idea, advising Aang to "actively shape your own destiny." Ultimately Aang chose to go with Kuruk's advice and was given a way to stop Ozai for good without having to kill him.

*** ''Spongebob Squarepants'' had a similar aesop in in the episode "Squirrel Jokes."
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*** ''Spongebob Squarepants'' had a similar aesop in in the episode "Squirrel Jokes."

* ''WesternAnimation/TheNewAdventuresOfSuperman'': A subverted regular {{Aesop}} from "Can a Luthor Change His Spots?". Luthor convinces Perry White that he's gone straight and is given a laboratory in the Daily Planet building. Jimmy Olsen (correctly) believes that Luthor is lying and tries to catch him committing a crime. So the Aesop is, "You shouldn't be suspicious and people can change...[[SubvertedSuspicionAesop except for sometimes they don't and suspicion can be a good thing.]]"
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheNewAdventuresOfSuperman'': A subverted regular {{Aesop}} [[AnAesop Aesop]] from "Can a Luthor Change His Spots?". Luthor convinces Perry White that he's gone straight and is given a laboratory in the Daily Planet building. Jimmy Olsen (correctly) believes that Luthor is lying and tries to catch him committing a crime. So the Aesop is, "You shouldn't be suspicious and people can change...[[SubvertedSuspicionAesop except for sometimes they don't and suspicion can be a good thing.]]"

* ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'': The infamous episode "Stuck In The Wringer" ends with Spongebob, after going through an [[TraumaCongaLine incredibly rough day]] while stuck in a wringer, breaking down crying...which gets him out of the wringer. Spongebob then turns to the camera and says: "I guess crying can solve your problems after all!". Considering the delivery of the line, [[SpoofAesop it likely wasn't intended to be taken seriously]], but considering everything that had just happened...
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* ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'': ''WesternAnimation/{{SpongeBob SquarePants}}'': The infamous episode "Stuck In The Wringer" ends with Spongebob, after going through an [[TraumaCongaLine incredibly rough day]] while stuck in a wringer, breaking down crying...which gets him out of the wringer. Spongebob then turns to the camera and says: "I guess crying can solve your problems after all!". Considering the delivery of the line, [[SpoofAesop it likely wasn't intended to be taken seriously]], but considering everything that had just happened...

** "Black Friday" is an entire episode dedicated to showing how wonderful Black Friday is. And considering how [[UsefulNotes/ChristmasInAmerica BlackFriday]] usually is, the episode pretty much speaks for itself.
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** "Black Friday" is an entire episode dedicated to showing how wonderful Black Friday is. And considering how [[UsefulNotes/ChristmasInAmerica BlackFriday]] Black Friday]] usually is, the episode pretty much speaks for itself.

* A couple of episodes of "Xiaolin Showdown" had Master Fung encouraging the team to play mind games with their opponents.
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* A couple of episodes of "Xiaolin Showdown" "WesternAnimation/XiaolinShowdown" had Master Fung encouraging the team to play mind games with their opponents.

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6th Feb '16 7:55:36 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* An in-universe example in ''WesternAnimation/TheLifeAndTimesOfJuniperLee''. The comic book Boom-Fist gives messages like "use violence as a first resort," "put yourself before others," and "if you can't win, make sure the other guy loses."

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31st Jan '16 4:31:36 PM DrVolger
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* The cyber-legend of Marine Todd. Summary: a Marine comes back from "the war", enrolls in a college course, and sits through a lecture where an atheist professor invites God to knock him down from the speaking platform. Marine Todd gets up and punches the professor, saying that God had sent him to do the task on His behalf(often adding that "[God] was too busy protecting the troops who are dying to protect your right to say stupid shit"). Take your pick of horrible lessons that this implies - that believers are justified in committing the criminal act of assault to justify their beliefs to non-believers; that civilians are a fair target for trained military personnel; that freedom of speech is only for people who agree with you; that might makes right...

* The cyber-legend of Marine Todd. Summary: a Marine comes back from "the war", enrolls in a college course, and sits through a lecture where an atheist professor invites God to knock him down from the speaking platform. Marine Todd gets up and punches the professor, saying that God had sent him to do the task on His behalf(often adding that "[God] was too busy protecting the troops who are dying to protect your right to say stupid shit"). Take your pick of horrible lessons that this implies - that believers are justified in committing the criminal act of assault to justify their beliefs to non-believers; that civilians are a fair target for trained military personnel; that freedom of speech is only for people who agree with you; that might makes right...
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* The cyber-legend of Marine Todd. Summary: a Marine comes back from "the war", enrolls in a college course, and sits through a lecture where an atheist professor invites God to knock him down from the speaking platform. Marine Todd gets up and punches the professor, saying that God had sent him to do the task on His behalf(often adding that "[God] was too busy protecting the troops who are dying to protect your right to say stupid shit"). Take your pick of horrible lessons that this implies - that believers are justified in committing the criminal act of assault to justify their beliefs to non-believers; that civilians are a fair target for trained military personnel; that freedom of speech is only for people who agree with you; that might makes right...
31st Jan '16 4:29:42 PM DrVolger
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* The cyber-legend of Marine Todd. Summary: a Marine comes back from "the war", enrolls in a college course, and sits through a lecture where an atheist professor invites God to knock him down from the speaking platform. Marine Todd gets up and punches the professor, saying that God had sent him to do the task on His behalf(often adding that "[God] was too busy protecting the troops who are dying to protect your right to say stupid shit"). Take your pick of horrible lessons that this implies - that believers are justified in committing the criminal act of assault to justify their beliefs to non-believers; that civilians are a fair target for trained military personnel; that freedom of speech is only for people who agree with you; that might makes right...
28th Jan '16 6:13:45 PM MegaJ
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-> "GET TO WORK. You aren't being paid to believe in the power of your dreams." -->-- '''[[http://despair.com/collections/posters/products/get-to-work Despair.com]]'''
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-> "GET TO WORK. You aren't being paid ->''"... I leave it to believe in be settled by whomsoever it may concern, whether the power tendency of your dreams." this work be altogether to recommend parental tyranny, or reward filial disobedience."'' -->-- '''[[http://despair.com/collections/posters/products/get-to-work Despair.com]]''' '''Creator/JaneAusten''', ''Literature/NorthangerAbbey'' (final line)
28th Jan '16 5:57:11 AM search
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*An episode of Futurama seemingly semi-spoofs its own Aesop. Hermes loses his job as a professional bureaucrat and later him and the gang are forced to sneak into his old office to find Bender's hard drive. When they are caught, Hermes shows just how much information he can sort as he sings a showtune about how it's what he was born to do. As the jaunty Jamaican-sounding lyrics proclaim "sometimes in life you have to do what you're meant to/even if it's not a good idea! (paraphrase).
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*An episode of Futurama seemingly semi-spoofs its own Aesop. Hermes loses his job as a professional bureaucrat and later him and the gang are forced to sneak into his old office to find Bender's hard drive. When they are caught, Hermes shows just how much information he can sort as he sings a showtune about how it's what he was born to do. As the jaunty Jamaican-sounding lyrics proclaim "sometimes in life you have to do what you're meant to/even if it's not a good idea! idea!" (paraphrase).

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*An episode * A couple of Futurama seemingly semi-spoofs its own Aesop. Hermes loses his job as a professional bureaucrat and later him and episodes of "Xiaolin Showdown" had Master Fung encouraging the gang are forced team to sneak into his old office to find Bender's hard drive. When they are caught, Hermes shows just how much information he can sort as he sings a showtune about how it's what he was born to do. As the jaunty Jamaican-sounding lyrics proclaim "sometimes in life you have to do what you're meant to/even if it's not a good idea! (paraphrase).play mind games with their opponents.
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