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22nd Jul '16 8:00:52 PM kquinn0830
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** "Murtaugh" endorses modern America's culture of losing, by telling us that even if you put in zero effort and have no talent whatsoever, you deserve a trophy just for participating. Marshall tries to point out how insane that system is, but the ending of the episode thoroughly agrees with Lily.
*** Not to mention that because of that system, Lily's kindergarten basketball team does not even know how to play and loses their game by more than 100 points without even making one basket.

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** "Murtaugh" endorses modern America's culture of losing, by telling us that even if you put in zero effort puts the "Winning and have no talent whatsoever, you deserve losing doesn't matter, it's about having fun" mindset against the "Play to win, winning is fun" mentality. However, it plays them in such a trophy just for participating. way it approaches parody. The "Play to win" mentality is portrayed with Marshall tries to point out how insane that system is, but the ending of the episode thoroughly agrees with Lily.
*** Not to mention that because of that system,
being a DrillSergeantNasty when coaching Lily's kindergarten basketball team does not even know class how to play Basketball, making them do nothing but drills and loses their game sucking out any enjoyment from the game. Lily's "It's about fun" mentality sees her ''not even teaching the kids how to play'', just letting them run around aimlessly before giving them a reward for taking part. At the end of the episode, Marshall accepts that being rewarded for taking part isn't bad, but Lily still stands by more than 100 her opinion that Marshall was completely wrong, which leaves us with the Aesop "Winning and losing isn't important, because you'll be rewarded if you didn't even try in the first place". The lunacy of this is even {{lampshaded}} within the episode, as Marshall points without even making one basket. out that you don't get handed things in the real world and you need to put work in to achieve your goals.
17th Jul '16 11:23:28 AM Matt620
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* One of the Mass Effect: Foundation comics, had Kaidan's father offer the advice that even the right decision has terrible consequences.
16th Jul '16 4:01:26 PM nombretomado
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* Aside from being WebAnimation/YouTubePoop fodder, ''WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog'' has a couple of real winners when it comes to its attempt at giving kids helpful advice.

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* Aside from being WebAnimation/YouTubePoop fodder, ''WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog'' ''WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog'' has a couple of real winners when it comes to its attempt at giving kids helpful advice.
10th Jul '16 4:52:32 PM Demetrios
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** It also counts as a BrokenAesop. It's a rather odd moral to have in a franchise that highlights the close and friendly bond trainers can develop with their Pokemon.
10th Jul '16 3:26:09 AM DrVolger
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***Responding to perceived arrogance or the rejection of your own beliefs by another person (also known as "free speech") by committing illegal acts of physical violence [[SelfDemonstratingArticle is NOT a positive/"optimistic" lesson.]]
4th Jul '16 6:51:36 AM Argon2
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* Junpei's subplot in ''VideoGame/ZeroTimeDilemma'' basically goes 'Trusting people might fatally backfire on you, but trusting nobody will ''definitely'' kill you'. Even when the group he's in starts to actually work together, they do so not out of trust (or even mutual respect) but because they'll die if they don't and nobody has the time to think up a better plan. Similarly, in [[VideoGame/VirtuesLastReward the second game]], [[spoiler:Junpei raised [[MoralityPet the orphan Quark]] not because he wanted to be a father but because, post-apocalypse, all human lives are precious. This causes a lot of friction between the two.]]
3rd Jul '16 1:32:43 PM Morgenthaler
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** Owen Lars in the role of FantasyForbiddingFather to Luke in ''A New Hope''. He really just wanted to keep Luke out of the galaxy-spanning conflict because GoodParents don't like sending their kids into danger, especially since Luke's father became the BigBad Darth Vader. Their deaths are actually treated as having ''[[ConvenientlyAnOrphan liberated]]'' Luke to pursue his destiny, and after a ''very'' brief period of sorrow he displays an AngstWhatAngst attitude, never mentioning Owen and Beru again, but deeply mourning [[TheObiWan Obi-Wan]] when he dies.

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** Owen Lars in the role of FantasyForbiddingFather to Luke in ''A New Hope''. He really just wanted to keep Luke out of the galaxy-spanning conflict because GoodParents don't like sending their kids into danger, especially since Luke's father became the BigBad Darth Vader. Their deaths are actually treated as having ''[[ConvenientlyAnOrphan liberated]]'' Luke to pursue his destiny, and after a ''very'' brief period of sorrow he displays an AngstWhatAngst attitude, never mentioning Owen and Beru again, but deeply mourning [[TheObiWan Obi-Wan]] Obi-Wan when he dies.
25th Jun '16 4:13:16 PM trulymadmoves
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheAngryBirdsMovie'': The explorer pigs come to the island, and most of the birds accept them, with the exception of the protagonist Red. It turns out that the pigs just want to steal the bird's eggs. This can easily be interpreted as, if someone who doesn't look like you comes to your country, chances are, they want to take advantage of you.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheAngryBirdsMovie'': ''WesternAnimation/TheAngryBirdsMovie''
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The explorer pigs come to the island, and most of the birds accept them, with the exception of the protagonist Red. It turns out that the pigs just want to steal the bird's eggs. This can easily be interpreted as, if someone who doesn't look like you comes to your country, chances are, they want to take advantage of you.you.
** The film's Aesop has also been interpreted as "embrace your anger and use it to get revenge".
25th Jun '16 3:47:19 AM iam12741
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* Considering how ''{{Disney/Zootopia}}'' is a metaphor for racism using mammals in place of humans, it was kind of inevitable. The movie demonstrates that intentionally [[InnocentlyInsensitive or not]], ''anybody'' can be a carrier of racism (the main characters ''themselves'' aren't free from this), even those who are open-minded and/or suffered the most from racism ([[spoiler: Part of [[BigBad Bellwether's]] motivation for the Night Howler plot stems from feeling like she needed revenge for the racism she suffered at the paws of many predators]]). While it's harsh, and not really a thing anybody wants to admit, it's pretty much how racism works in the real world. Fortunately, the blow is softened in a couple of senses; 1), it shows that anybody ''can'' overcome their biases if one acknowledges and actively works on moving past them (A thing [[RighteousRabbit Judy]] does as part of her CharacterDevelopment). 2) Some bigoted characters ''are'' able to become more open-minded and accepting of other groups when given the time and encouragement, such as Judy's parents (they go from distrusting all foxes to forming a partnership with a fox-family-run bakery) and [[DaChief Chief Bogo]] (He was [[FantasticRacism distrusting of Nick due to him being a fox and saw Judy, as a bunny, incapable of being a cop]]. He became a lot more accepting of them over the course of the movie).

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* Considering how ''{{Disney/Zootopia}}'' is a metaphor for racism using mammals in place of humans, it was kind of inevitable. The movie demonstrates that intentionally [[InnocentlyInsensitive or not]], ''anybody'' can be a carrier of racism (the main characters ''themselves'' aren't free from this), even those who are open-minded and/or suffered the most from racism ([[spoiler: Part of [[BigBad Bellwether's]] motivation for the Night Howler plot stems from feeling like she needed revenge for the racism she suffered at the paws of many predators]]). While it's harsh, and not really a thing anybody wants to admit, it's pretty much how racism works in the real world. Fortunately, the blow is softened in a couple of senses; 1), it shows that anybody ''can'' overcome their biases if one acknowledges and actively works actively on moving past them (A thing [[RighteousRabbit Judy]] does as part of her CharacterDevelopment). 2) Some bigoted characters ''are'' able to become more open-minded and accepting of other groups when given the time and encouragement, such as Judy's parents (they go from distrusting all foxes to forming a partnership with a fox-family-run bakery) and [[DaChief Chief Bogo]] (He was [[FantasticRacism distrusting of Nick due to him being a fox and saw Judy, as a bunny, incapable of being a cop]]. He became a lot more accepting of them over the course of the movie).



* Music/HarryChapin's song ''Mr. Tanner'' is about a man who runs a dry cleaner and loves to sing, and is an amateur performer in his spare time. His friends convince him to try to become a professional singer, so he throws all his money into a concert performance that... bombs. Critics are terse and dismissive with him, suggesting he'd be better off keeping his day job. Mr. Tanner returns to his home and his job and stops performing publicly. The moral here is "Sometimes chasing your dream fails". If you want to be more blunt, you could phrase it "Loving to do something doesn't make you ''good'' at it."

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* Music/HarryChapin's song ''Mr. Tanner'' is about a man who runs a dry cleaner and loves to sing, and is an amateur performer in his spare time. His friends convince him to try to become a professional singer, so he throws all his money into a concert performance that... bombs. Critics are terse and dismissive with him, suggesting he'd be better off keeping his day job. Mr. Tanner returns to his home and his job and stops performing publicly. The moral here is "Sometimes chasing your dream fails". If you want to be more blunt, you could phrase it "Loving to do something doesn't make you ''good'' at it."it.
*Music/CarrieUnderwood's song "Church Bells" describes an girl marrying an physically aabusive partner who repeatedly abused her. That is, until she reaches her breaking point and dishes out some, err, lethal justice. This self-enforced death sentence would prevent him from abusing any other woman and you could possibly call it self-defensive, yes, but she's legally a murderer, a lot worse then anything he did to her. The other message being taught here? Don't trust the police, if you want justice served then best do it yourself and in an unlawful fashion. Depending on the society which the listener is in, this could be quite possibly a painful reality, especially in difficult to prove cases including rape.
*Music/Rihanna's Man Down, or at least the music video. Same message as Church Bells, different genre and artist
23rd Jun '16 6:06:45 AM Adept
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