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14th Oct '17 3:01:44 AM CaptainTedium
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* ''Fanfic/MyLittleUnicorn'': [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop/MyLittleUnicorn Has its own page.]]

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* ''Fanfic/MyLittleUnicorn'': [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop/MyLittleUnicorn Has its One of the main criticisms of the infamous ''Fanfic/MyBravePonyStarfleetMagic'' fics is that the lessons it tries to teach that the author claims are better than the lessons taught in [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic the show the fics are making fun of]] leave a lot to be desired. The most glaring example would be Twilight Sparkle [[UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming being blamed for her own page.]]death]] by Starfleet when trying to prevent an assassination, which gives the message that if you get killed for trying to save someone's life, then it's your own fault that you are dead.
9th Oct '17 8:02:14 PM Eagal
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* ''FamilyUnfriendlyAesop/MyBravePonyStarfleetMagic'' (Be aware that these examples also fall under BrokenAesop territory.)
9th Oct '17 6:40:26 PM PistolsAtDawn
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* ''ComicBook/BeautifulDarkness'': By the end of the story, Aurora learns that [[HumansAreBastards Fairies Are Bastards]], you can't trust anyone, and the only way to survive is to kill them before they can kill you.
2nd Oct '17 5:39:37 AM DesertDragon
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* A straighter X-Men example would be when Rogue sought to have her powers removed, a storyline that occasionally comes up in the comics, [[WesternAnimation/XMenTheAnimatedSeries the cartoons]], and [[Film/XMenTheLastStand the movies]]. The moral is always "Be proud of the things that make you different." It's often stated or implied that a mutant having their powers removed would be akin to a black person lightening their skin. However, the issues here are more than skin-deep: 1. Rogue's involuntary PowerCopying creates a burden in her life by not allowing her physical contact without harming the other person, and since she often struggles with the absorbed psyches in her head, her powers are a danger to herself as well as others. 2. ''It's '''her''' body.'' As an adult woman, she shouldn't have to justify her medical decisions.

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* A straighter X-Men example would be when Rogue sought to have her powers removed, a storyline that occasionally comes up in the comics, [[WesternAnimation/XMenTheAnimatedSeries [[WesternAnimation/XMen the cartoons]], and [[Film/XMenTheLastStand the movies]]. The moral is always "Be proud of the things that make you different." It's often stated or implied that a mutant having their powers removed would be akin to a black person lightening their skin. However, the issues here are more than skin-deep: 1. Rogue's involuntary PowerCopying creates a burden in her life by not allowing her physical contact without harming the other person, and since she often struggles with the absorbed psyches in her head, her powers are a danger to herself as well as others. 2. ''It's '''her''' body.'' As an adult woman, she shouldn't have to justify her medical decisions.
2nd Oct '17 5:38:44 AM DesertDragon
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* A straighter X-Men example would be when Rogue sought to have her powers removed, a storyline that occasionally comes up in the comics, [[WesternAnimation/XMenTheAnimatedSeries the cartoons]], and [[Film/XMenTheLastStand the movies]]. The moral is always "Be proud of the things that make you different." It's often stated or implied that a mutant having their powers removed would be akin to a black person lightening their skin. However, the issues here are more than skin-deep: 1. Rogue's involuntary PowerCopying creates a burden in her life by not allowing her physical contact without harming the other person, and since she often struggles with the absorbed psyches in her head, her powers are a danger to herself as well as others. 2. ''It's ''''her'''' body.'' As an adult woman, she shouldn't have to justify her medical decisions.

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* A straighter X-Men example would be when Rogue sought to have her powers removed, a storyline that occasionally comes up in the comics, [[WesternAnimation/XMenTheAnimatedSeries the cartoons]], and [[Film/XMenTheLastStand the movies]]. The moral is always "Be proud of the things that make you different." It's often stated or implied that a mutant having their powers removed would be akin to a black person lightening their skin. However, the issues here are more than skin-deep: 1. Rogue's involuntary PowerCopying creates a burden in her life by not allowing her physical contact without harming the other person, and since she often struggles with the absorbed psyches in her head, her powers are a danger to herself as well as others. 2. ''It's ''''her'''' '''her''' body.'' As an adult woman, she shouldn't have to justify her medical decisions.
2nd Oct '17 5:37:36 AM DesertDragon
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* A straighter X-Men example would be when Rogue sought to have her powers removed, a storyline that occasionally comes up in the comics, [[WesternAnimation/XMenTheAnimatedSeries the cartoons]], and [[Film/XMenTheLastStand the movies]]. The moral is always "Be proud of the things that make you different." It's often stated or implied that a mutant having their powers removed would be akin to a black person lightening their skin. However, the issues here are more than skin-deep: 1. Rogue's involuntary PowerCopying creates a burden in her life by not allowing her physical contact without harming the other person, and since she often struggles with the absorbed psyches in her head, her powers are a danger to herself as well as others. 2. As an adult woman, she should be free to make medical decisions about her own body.

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* A straighter X-Men example would be when Rogue sought to have her powers removed, a storyline that occasionally comes up in the comics, [[WesternAnimation/XMenTheAnimatedSeries the cartoons]], and [[Film/XMenTheLastStand the movies]]. The moral is always "Be proud of the things that make you different." It's often stated or implied that a mutant having their powers removed would be akin to a black person lightening their skin. However, the issues here are more than skin-deep: 1. Rogue's involuntary PowerCopying creates a burden in her life by not allowing her physical contact without harming the other person, and since she often struggles with the absorbed psyches in her head, her powers are a danger to herself as well as others. 2. ''It's ''''her'''' body.'' As an adult woman, she should be free shouldn't have to make justify her medical decisions about her own body.decisions.
2nd Oct '17 5:36:34 AM DesertDragon
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* Lampshaded in the ''ComicBook/XMen'' graphic novel "ComicBook/GodLovesManKills." A policeman incapacitates Rev. Stryker at a rally as Stryker [[WouldHurtAChild was prepared to shoot and kill Kitty Pryde]]. Another policeman said "If that's the word of God, then it's been a long time since I've been to church."

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* Lampshaded Invoked in-universe in the ''ComicBook/XMen'' graphic novel "ComicBook/GodLovesManKills." A policeman incapacitates Rev. Stryker at a rally as Stryker [[WouldHurtAChild was prepared to shoot and kill Kitty Pryde]]. Another policeman When questioned about it, he said "If that's the word of God, then it's been a long time sure changed since I've been Sunday School."
* A straighter X-Men example would be when Rogue sought
to church."have her powers removed, a storyline that occasionally comes up in the comics, [[WesternAnimation/XMenTheAnimatedSeries the cartoons]], and [[Film/XMenTheLastStand the movies]]. The moral is always "Be proud of the things that make you different." It's often stated or implied that a mutant having their powers removed would be akin to a black person lightening their skin. However, the issues here are more than skin-deep: 1. Rogue's involuntary PowerCopying creates a burden in her life by not allowing her physical contact without harming the other person, and since she often struggles with the absorbed psyches in her head, her powers are a danger to herself as well as others. 2. As an adult woman, she should be free to make medical decisions about her own body.
28th Sep '17 9:37:44 AM StFan
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* The short ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'' fan video "WebOriginal/{{Friendship}}!" parodies this, by teaching the viewers an important lesson about friendship is the wasteland: It doesn't exist, and those who naively believe in it make excellent {{Human Shield}}s, that have plenty of free money on them.

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* The short ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'' fan video "WebOriginal/{{Friendship}}!" "WebAnimation/{{Friendship}}!" parodies this, by teaching the viewers an important lesson about friendship is the wasteland: It doesn't exist, and those who naively believe in it make excellent {{Human Shield}}s, that have plenty of free money on them.
28th Sep '17 9:34:38 AM StFan
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* This occurs in-story in ''{{FanFic/Solitude}}'' where as a child [[Manga/DeathNote Light]] [[AdultsAreUseless takes away one from his therapy session]]--[[StartOfDarkness that people don't really want others to be happy]]. [[StepfordSmiler They want everyone to appear "normal" at all costs]].

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* This occurs in-story in ''{{FanFic/Solitude}}'' ''Fanfic/{{Solitude}}'' where as a child [[Manga/DeathNote Light]] [[AdultsAreUseless takes away one from his therapy session]]--[[StartOfDarkness session]] -- [[StartOfDarkness that people don't really want others to be happy]]. [[StepfordSmiler They want everyone to appear "normal" at all costs]].



* ''WebVideo/UltraFastPony'' has a few of these, as a satirical sendup of the unintentional messages that could be read into [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic the source material]].
** In "Fillin' Dem Plot Holes, Bro!":
--->'''Twilight:''' They rely on friendship, but they only work with magic.\\
'''Applejack:''' [[LampshadeHanging Well, that's a terrible lesson for the children.]] What are we supposed to tell them, "No matter how big your problem is, you can only solve it with magic"?\\
'''Twilight:''' That is exactly right!
** In "Everybody Hates Gilda":
--->'''Celestia:''' What is this? Invisible ink? Is this what we're teaching our children these days? Yes, no, I see why they say this has great morals for all the children, oh, that's really great! I mean, what kind of idiotic writer tells children that it's okay to be continuously playing pranks on everyone? We're raising a generation of assholes, that's what we're doing.
** In "The Longest Episode:"
--->'''Twilight:''' We taught children all over the world that it's okay to crash parties, then run away.
* The short ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'' fan video "WebOriginal/{{Friendship}}!" parodies this, by teaching the viewers an important lesson about friendship is the wasteland: It doesn't exist, and those who naively believe in it make excellent {{Human Shield}}s, that have plenty of free money on them.



* Discussed at length in WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic's "Top 11 ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' Episodes", where he names "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS2E1BartGetsAnF Bart Gets an F]]" his favorite episode of the show, in large part, because it's the rare piece of pop culture that's brave enough to teach the Family-Unfriendly Aesop "Failure is an unavoidable part of life--and we all fail sometimes, even when we try our very hardest." He argues that this is one of the most important lessons that anyone can learn, but admits that it's rarely used as AnAesop in pop culture because it's so much more uplifting to show a protagonist succeeding through hard work. In the same episode, Critic discusses this trope when naming "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS8E23HomersEnemy Homer's Enemy]]" one of the 11 best episodes of the show. He sums up the episode's moral as "Sometimes bad things happen to good people for no reason, and sometimes dumb people are rewarded more than smart people", but argues that the episode is brilliant because it faces such a grim message so unapologetically, and [[BlackComedy manages to make it surprisingly funny]].
* ''WebVideo/UltraFastPony'' has a few of these, as a satirical sendup of the unintentional messages that could be read into [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic the source material]].
** In "Fillin' Dem Plot Holes, Bro!":
--->'''Twilight:''' They rely on friendship, but they only work with magic.\\
'''Applejack:''' [[LampshadeHanging Well, that's a terrible lesson for the children.]] What are we supposed to tell them, "No matter how big your problem is, you can only solve it with magic"?\\
'''Twilight:''' That is exactly right!
** In "Everybody Hates Gilda":
--->'''Celestia:''' What is this? Invisible ink? Is this what we're teaching our children these days? Yes, no, I see why they say this has great morals for all the children, oh, that's really great! I mean, what kind of idiotic writer tells children that it's okay to be continuously playing pranks on everyone? We're raising a generation of assholes, that's what we're doing.
** In "The Longest Episode:"
--->'''Twilight:''' We taught children all over the world that it's okay to crash parties, then run away.

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* Discussed at length in WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic's "Top 11 ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' Episodes", where he names "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS2E1BartGetsAnF Bart Gets an F]]" his favorite episode of the show, in large part, because it's the rare piece of pop culture that's brave enough to teach the Family-Unfriendly Aesop "Failure is an unavoidable part of life--and life -- and we all fail sometimes, even when we try our very hardest." He argues that this is one of the most important lessons that anyone can learn, but admits that it's rarely used as AnAesop in pop culture because it's so much more uplifting to show a protagonist succeeding through hard work. In the same episode, Critic discusses this trope when naming "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS8E23HomersEnemy Homer's Enemy]]" one of the 11 best episodes of the show. He sums up the episode's moral as "Sometimes bad things happen to good people for no reason, and sometimes dumb people are rewarded more than smart people", but argues that the episode is brilliant because it faces such a grim message so unapologetically, and [[BlackComedy manages to make it surprisingly funny]].
* ''WebVideo/UltraFastPony'' has a few of these, as a satirical sendup of the unintentional messages that could be read into [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic the source material]].
** In "Fillin' Dem Plot Holes, Bro!":
--->'''Twilight:''' They rely on friendship, but they only work with magic.\\
'''Applejack:''' [[LampshadeHanging Well, that's a terrible lesson for the children.]] What are we supposed to tell them, "No matter how big your problem is, you can only solve it with magic"?\\
'''Twilight:''' That is exactly right!
** In "Everybody Hates Gilda":
--->'''Celestia:''' What is this? Invisible ink? Is this what we're teaching our children these days? Yes, no, I see why they say this has great morals for all the children, oh, that's really great! I mean, what kind of idiotic writer tells children that it's okay to be continuously playing pranks on everyone? We're raising a generation of assholes, that's what we're doing.
** In "The Longest Episode:"
--->'''Twilight:''' We taught children all over the world that it's okay to crash parties, then run away.
funny]].



* The short ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'' fan video "WebOriginal/{{Friendship}}!" parodies this, by teaching the viewers an important lesson about friendship is the wasteland: It doesn't exist, and those who naively believe in it make excellent {{Human Shield}}s, that have plenty of free money on them.
25th Sep '17 3:55:09 PM Tinandel_1
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* ''Anime/CowboyBebop'': You can ignore it for a little while, but you can never truly escape from your past. Any mistakes you made or regrets you have, will haunt you until the day you die.



* ''Anime/CowboyBebop'': You can ignore it for a little while, but you can never truly escape from your past. Any mistakes you made or regrets you have, will haunt you until the day you die.
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