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25th May '17 11:59:49 AM EDP
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** This is typical of Italian Disney stories (one of the reasons it's the DarkerAndEdgier division of Disney), in which characters casually wields and use realistic firearms, especially in those produced in the Sixties and Seventies (where Scrooge would wield a double-barreled sawed-off shotgun, cops would shoot at criminals with .38 Special and .357 Magnum revolvers, and ''Donald Duck'' has been shown packing a Colt [=M1911=]). Since then the presence of realistic guns has dimished, but you can still find numerous realistic guns in the 'classic' Paperinik stories (in fact that's where Donald's Colt comes from), the ''ComicBook/DoubleDuck'' saga (that shares most of the staff with ''Paperinik New Adventures''), ''Mickey Mouse Mystery Magazine'' (yes, ''MickeyMouse''), and ''ComicBook/{{WITCH}}'' (at least those times police officers are involved). [[JustifiedTrope And considering the Italian fans are rather cynical, what would you expect?]]

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** This is typical of Italian Disney stories (one of the reasons it's the DarkerAndEdgier division of Disney), in which characters casually wields and use realistic firearms, especially in those produced in the Sixties and Seventies (where Scrooge would wield a double-barreled sawed-off shotgun, cops would shoot at criminals with .38 Special and .357 Magnum revolvers, and ''Donald Duck'' has been shown packing owning a Colt [=M1911=]).[=M1911=] and a double-barreled shotgun). Since then the presence of realistic guns has dimished, but you can still find numerous realistic guns in the 'classic' Paperinik stories (in fact that's where Donald's Colt comes from), the ''ComicBook/DoubleDuck'' saga (that shares most of the staff with ''Paperinik New Adventures''), ''Mickey Mouse Mystery Magazine'' (yes, ''MickeyMouse''), and ''ComicBook/{{WITCH}}'' (at least those times police officers are involved). [[JustifiedTrope [[ValuesDissonance And considering the Italian fans are rather cynical, cynical]], [[JustifiedTrope what would you expect?]]
18th May '17 12:00:20 PM HighCrate
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** In the episode "The Tomato from the Black Lagoon", Zoltan and the Gang of Five were piloting warplanes and attacking Chad, F.T., and Tara with live ammo. Chad tells Tara [[GenreSavvy that kids should not use guns]], have to use their fingers instead!

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** In the episode "The Tomato from the Black Lagoon", Zoltan and the Gang of Five were piloting warplanes and attacking Chad, F.T., and Tara with live ammo. Chad tells Tara [[GenreSavvy that kids should not use guns]], guns, have to use their fingers instead!
23rd Apr '17 9:40:35 AM nombretomado
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* ''SwatKats'' zigzags the trope: normal guns and rifles, as used by the Enforcers and assorted villains, are laser-based and generally look that way, though Commander Feral's handgun looks a little more realistic; [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness some early episodes showed bullets being fired from guns, but with red streaks and laser noises]]. The SWAT Kats' arsenal, on the other hand, is intended to be as non-lethal as possible. Therefore, they tend to lean towards AbnormalAmmo- the varieties of missiles used in the [[CoolPlane [=TurboKat=]]] range from being able to deploy buzzsaws, to producing electrical or flame impacts. They rarely ever fired a standard missile- which was [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] when a standard was fired by a button marked "Plain Old Missile". In addition, they also had a [[GatlingGood cement gatling gun]] equipped; their ammo in their [[SuperWristGadget Glovat]][[PowerFist rixes]] and [[{{Thememobile}} other vehicles]] tended to be scaled-down versions of their [=TurboKat=] armaments.

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* ''SwatKats'' ''WesternAnimation/SwatKats'' zigzags the trope: normal guns and rifles, as used by the Enforcers and assorted villains, are laser-based and generally look that way, though Commander Feral's handgun looks a little more realistic; [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness some early episodes showed bullets being fired from guns, but with red streaks and laser noises]]. The SWAT Kats' arsenal, on the other hand, is intended to be as non-lethal as possible. Therefore, they tend to lean towards AbnormalAmmo- the varieties of missiles used in the [[CoolPlane [=TurboKat=]]] range from being able to deploy buzzsaws, to producing electrical or flame impacts. They rarely ever fired a standard missile- which was [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] when a standard was fired by a button marked "Plain Old Missile". In addition, they also had a [[GatlingGood cement gatling gun]] equipped; their ammo in their [[SuperWristGadget Glovat]][[PowerFist rixes]] and [[{{Thememobile}} other vehicles]] tended to be scaled-down versions of their [=TurboKat=] armaments.
21st Apr '17 5:53:55 PM ElSquibbonator
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* Af first, it was surprisingly averted in ''WesternAnimation/RegularShow'', a Creator/CartoonNetwork series of the 2010s. Police and criminals could be seen using real guns that fire real bullets. In fact two episodes involved shootouts, with [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman robotic criminals]] getting injured and killed by the police. But later episodes played this straight- ie. "Guy's Night 2", where [[ItMakesSenseInContext the FBI agents pursuing Thomas]] use laser weaponry, both in the form of small arms and helicopter turrets. Fans are convinced it's because current network management are MoralGuardians. However, it could also be because as the series progressed it took on more and more of a sci-fi theme.

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* Af first, it was surprisingly averted in ''WesternAnimation/RegularShow'', a Creator/CartoonNetwork series of the 2010s. Police and criminals could be seen using real guns that fire real bullets. In fact two episodes involved shootouts, with [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman robotic criminals]] getting injured and killed by the police. But later episodes played this straight- ie. "Guy's Night 2", where [[ItMakesSenseInContext the FBI agents pursuing Thomas]] use laser weaponry, both in the form of small arms and helicopter turrets. Fans Some fans are convinced it's because current network management are MoralGuardians. However, it could also be because as the series progressed it took on more and more of a sci-fi theme.theme, ultimately ending with the entire cast going into space.
21st Apr '17 5:51:58 PM ElSquibbonator
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* Af first, it was surprisingly averted in ''WesternAnimation/RegularShow'', a Creator/CartoonNetwork series of the 2010s. Police and criminals could be seen using real guns that fire real bullets. In fact two episodes involved shootouts, with [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman robotic criminals]] getting injured and killed by the police. But later episodes played this straight- ie. "Guy's Night 2", where [[ItMakesSenseInContext the FBI agents pursuing Thomas]] use laser weaponry, both in the form of small arms and helicopter turrets. Fans are convinced it's because current network management are major MoralGuardians.

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* Af first, it was surprisingly averted in ''WesternAnimation/RegularShow'', a Creator/CartoonNetwork series of the 2010s. Police and criminals could be seen using real guns that fire real bullets. In fact two episodes involved shootouts, with [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman robotic criminals]] getting injured and killed by the police. But later episodes played this straight- ie. "Guy's Night 2", where [[ItMakesSenseInContext the FBI agents pursuing Thomas]] use laser weaponry, both in the form of small arms and helicopter turrets. Fans are convinced it's because current network management are major MoralGuardians.MoralGuardians. However, it could also be because as the series progressed it took on more and more of a sci-fi theme.
20th Apr '17 9:48:22 PM ElSquibbonator
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20th Apr '17 9:45:26 PM ElSquibbonator
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*** The "present day" rule was actually relaxed at some point - no form of realistic gunpowder weapon was allowed at first, even obviously obsolete ones. This was eventually relaxed in the 1990s for the Pirate theme (which contained 18th-century-style muskets) and the Western theme (which had pistols and rifles). The ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' sets also contained models based on real military vehicles, as do the sets based on ''Film/WonderWoman''.

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*** The "present day" rule was actually relaxed at some point - no form of realistic gunpowder weapon was allowed at first, even obviously obsolete ones. This was eventually relaxed in the 1990s for the Pirate theme (which contained 18th-century-style muskets) and the Western theme (which had pistols and rifles). The ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' sets also contained models based on real military vehicles, as do the sets based on ''Film/WonderWoman''. Nowadays it's more like "no realistic non-stylized modern weapons", not "no modern weapons period".



** This is the main gripe of the Technic fans, as these older consumers know full well that Lego has the ability to create realistic, working tanks and military aircraft and that [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings they would be awesome]]. The only such sets LEGO has actually produced were a series of [[http://www.ibrickcity.com/lego-10226-sopwith-camel/ collector's]] [[http://lego.wikia.com/wiki/10024_Red_Baron models]] featuring a Sopwith Camel and a Fokker Triplane, two World War I fighter planes, both released in 2002.

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** This is the main gripe of the Technic fans, as these older consumers know full well that Lego has the ability to create realistic, working tanks and military aircraft and that they would be awesome. But because of the "no realistic modern weapons" rule [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings they would be awesome]]. that's unlikely]]. The only such sets exceptions--indeed, the only realistic military vehicle models LEGO has actually produced ''ever'' produced-- were a series of [[http://www.ibrickcity.com/lego-10226-sopwith-camel/ collector's]] [[http://lego.wikia.com/wiki/10024_Red_Baron models]] featuring a Sopwith Camel and a Fokker Triplane, two World War I fighter planes, both planes kits released in 2002.
20th Apr '17 9:38:30 PM ElSquibbonator
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** The Pirate Lego sets all included muskets and flintlock pistols. Not "present-day" per se, but still firearms.
** What about the Western sets? They had revolvers that looked fairly realistic (for Legos) shotguns as well as 19th century rifles. [[http://guide.lugnet.com/set/6706 see here]]
** IIRC the "present-day" means "World War II or later".
*** The "present day" rule was actually relaxed at some point - no form of realistic gunpowder weapon was allowed at first, even obviously obsolete ones.

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** The Pirate Lego sets all included muskets and flintlock pistols. Not "present-day" per se, but still firearms.
** What about the Western sets? They had revolvers that looked fairly realistic (for Legos) shotguns as well as 19th century rifles. [[http://guide.lugnet.com/set/6706 see here]]
** IIRC the "present-day" means "World War II "20th century or later".
later".
*** The "present day" rule was actually relaxed at some point - no form of realistic gunpowder weapon was allowed at first, even obviously obsolete ones. This was eventually relaxed in the 1990s for the Pirate theme (which contained 18th-century-style muskets) and the Western theme (which had pistols and rifles). The ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' sets also contained models based on real military vehicles, as do the sets based on ''Film/WonderWoman''.



** This is the main gripe of the technic fans, as these older consumers know full well that Lego has the ability to create realistic, working tanks and military aircrafts, and they would be ''awesome''. However due to the above rule, we will never see them officially released. Lego has no problem releasing fictional, futuristic tanks however.
*** This is also why the Lego Star Wars line is considered by all to be their best selling line, as they can make movie-accurate guns and war machines without violating their rule. In particular the old technic lines and the larger hobbysets are much well received by the older demographic, who long for realistic tanks, but get close enough with a movie-accurate scale Millenium Falcon.

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** This is the main gripe of the technic Technic fans, as these older consumers know full well that Lego has the ability to create realistic, working tanks and military aircrafts, aircraft and that [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings they would be ''awesome''. However due to the above rule, we will never see them officially released. Lego awesome]]. The only such sets LEGO has no problem releasing fictional, futuristic tanks however.
*** This
actually produced were a series of [[http://www.ibrickcity.com/lego-10226-sopwith-camel/ collector's]] [[http://lego.wikia.com/wiki/10024_Red_Baron models]] featuring a Sopwith Camel and a Fokker Triplane, two World War I fighter planes, both released in 2002.
** It
is also why probably for this reason that the Lego Star Wars line is considered by all to be their best selling line, as they can make movie-accurate guns and war machines without violating their rule. In particular the old technic lines and the larger hobbysets are much well received by the older demographic, who long for realistic tanks, but get close enough with a movie-accurate scale Millenium Falcon.Millennium Falcon or Imperial Walker.
20th Apr '17 9:20:01 PM ElSquibbonator
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Note that this is usually limited to bullet-firing weapons. More destructive weapons like RPG's may still be seen in works using this trope, despite (or perhaps ''because'' of) the increased difficulty in obtaining them. In rare cases, it will have [[{{BFG}} large guns]] fire actual bullets, but still no realistic small arms.

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Note that this is usually limited to bullet-firing weapons. More Larger, more destructive weapons like cannons and RPG's may still be seen in works using this trope, despite (or perhaps ''because'' of) the increased difficulty because they are less easy to obtain in obtaining them. real life. In rare these cases, it will have [[{{BFG}} large guns]] fire actual bullets, but still no realistic small arms.
18th Apr '17 5:40:34 AM longWriter
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* ''Series/TheMrPotatoHeadShow'': Technically averted, as we never see ''any'' kind of gun on-screen, realistic or otherwise. That said, the show lampshades and dances around the fact that you can't have real guns on a kid's show. For example, in a western episode, sherrif!Mr. Potato Head and outlaw!Johnny have some closeups of them that size them up head-to-toe, and you can tell that ''their holsters are empty''. And yet, when Mr. Potato Head is showing this western episode to the [[ScrewedByTheNetwork TV bosses]], seconds after these size-up camera shots, you can ''hear'' gunshots as part of the climactic shootout while seeing the bosses' reactions of horror as they tell him he can't have guns on the show.
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