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13th Dec '17 4:39:11 AM longWriter
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* ''Series/TheMrPotatoHeadShow'': Technically averted, as we never see ''any'' kind of gun on-screen, realistic or otherwise. That said, the show lampshades and dances around the fact that you can't have real guns on a kid's show. For example, in a western episode, sherrif!Mr. Potato Head and outlaw!Johnny have some closeups of them that size them up head-to-toe, and you can tell that ''their holsters are empty''. And yet, when Mr. Potato Head is showing this western episode to the [[ScrewedByTheNetwork TV bosses]], seconds after these size-up camera shots, you can ''hear'' gunshots as part of the climactic shootout while seeing the bosses' reactions of horror as they tell him he can't have guns on the show.

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* ''Series/TheMrPotatoHeadShow'': Technically averted, as we never see ''any'' kind of gun on-screen, realistic or otherwise. That said, the The show lampshades and dances around the fact that you can't have real guns on a kid's show. For example, in a western episode, sherrif!Mr. Potato Head and outlaw!Johnny have some closeups of them that size them up head-to-toe, and you can tell that ''their holsters are empty''. And yet, when Mr. Potato Head is showing this western episode to the [[ScrewedByTheNetwork TV bosses]], seconds after these size-up camera shots, you can ''hear'' gunshots as part of the climactic shootout while seeing the bosses' reactions of horror as they tell him he can't have guns on the show.
18th Nov '17 12:49:46 PM Raikoh
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** ''VideoGame/SonicForces'' returns to this trope when the heroic Resistance are mainly armed with laser-shooting Wispon weaponry that just so happens to never hit anything on-screen. Amusingly, not only does the Avatar not actually get to use this weapon and instead have a much more strange arsenal of weapons, but Eggman's robots also fire energy shots that.. make stock bullet ping sounds when they hit objects.
2nd Nov '17 4:29:06 PM Chilliwack
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* In ''WesternAnimation/AllDogsGoToHeaven'', Carface's tommy gun is turned into a tommy gun... that fires red lasers. How they got advanced laser weaponry in 1939 is never explained. Oddly enough, they leave in the part where they violently gun down Charlie in front of the apple cart.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/AllDogsGoToHeaven'', Carface's tommy gun is turned into a tommy gun... that fires red lasers. How they got advanced laser weaponry in 1939 is never explained. Oddly enough, they leave in the part where they violently gun down Charlie in front of the apple cart.cart(and somehow miss every shot).
30th Oct '17 1:55:11 AM mcgrew
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* In the ''Franchise/StarWars'' spin-off film ''Film/EwoksTheBattleForEndor'', the Ewoks fight goblinlike creatures that live in a {{Dark Age|Europe}}s castle, get dinosaur-looking aliens to pull their wooden wagons that use log-ends as wheels, and fight with laser pistols -- despite the fact that the [[AllThereInTheManual technical manuals]] clearly state that projectile weapons still are used in the ''Star Wars'' galaxy.

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* In the ''Franchise/StarWars'' spin-off film ''Film/EwoksTheBattleForEndor'', ''[[Film/StarWarsEwokAdventures Ewoks: The Battle for Endor]]'', the Ewoks fight goblinlike creatures that live in a {{Dark Age|Europe}}s castle, get dinosaur-looking aliens to pull their wooden wagons that use log-ends as wheels, and fight with laser pistols -- despite the fact that the [[AllThereInTheManual technical manuals]] clearly state that projectile weapons still are used in the ''Star Wars'' galaxy.
5th Oct '17 6:03:28 PM ElSquibbonator
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* Franchise/{{LEGO}} have typically had a "no present-day weapons" rule (this is usually understood to mean "20th century or later) -- so it's okay for Minifig swords and laser guns, but not Glocks or anything like that. Presumably [[TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture in about twenty minutes]] they will have to recall all the laser guns and allow muskets.

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* Franchise/{{LEGO}} have typically had a "no present-day weapons" rule (this is usually understood to mean "20th century or later) -- so it's okay for Minifig swords and laser guns, but not Glocks or anything like that. Presumably [[TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture in about twenty minutes]] they will have to recall all the laser guns and allow muskets.realistic guns. However, as seen below, this is not as strict as it once was.



*** Bionicle went so far as to use the words Murder and Thieves for one of their lines, and made it very clear that AnyoneCanDie in their post-Inika Story arcs (whereas in all other stories the characters would get comically blown to pieces, but survive nonetheless since they can just rebuild themselves). The closest they've ever gotten to a real weapon was the Cordak Missile Launchers, which functioned like a Gatling gun (but it only held 6 ammo rounds, possibly because they were explosive in-story) and even then it was far too comically short to be taken seriously.

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*** Bionicle went so far as to use the words Murder and Thieves for one of their lines, and made it very clear that AnyoneCanDie in their post-Inika Story arcs (whereas in all other stories the characters would get comically blown to pieces, but survive nonetheless since they can just rebuild themselves). The closest they've ever gotten to a real projectile weapon was the Cordak Missile Launchers, which functioned like a Gatling gun (but it only held 6 ammo rounds, possibly because they were explosive in-story) and even then it was far too comically short to be taken seriously.
5th Oct '17 6:01:45 PM ElSquibbonator
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** The "present day" rule actually isn't as strict as it used to be - at first no form of realistic gunpowder weapon were allowed at all, even obviously obsolete ones. This was eventually relaxed in the 1990s for the Pirate theme (which contained 18th-century-style muskets) and the Western theme (which had pistols and rifles). Since then a number of other themes, including ''Toys/LEGOAdventurers'', ''Franchise/IndianaJones'', ''Franchise/Batman'' and ''Film/WonderWoman'', have included guns (usually highly stylized ones). Nowadays it's more like "no realistic non-stylized modern weapons", not "no modern weapons period."

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** The "present day" rule actually isn't as strict as it used to be - at first no form of realistic gunpowder weapon were allowed at all, even obviously obsolete ones. This was eventually relaxed in the 1990s for the Pirate theme (which contained 18th-century-style muskets) and the Western theme (which had pistols and rifles). Since then a number of other themes, including ''Toys/LEGOAdventurers'', ''Franchise/IndianaJones'', ''Franchise/Batman'' ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' and ''Film/WonderWoman'', have included guns (usually highly (albeit stylized ones). Nowadays it's more like "no realistic non-stylized modern weapons", not "no modern weapons period."
5th Oct '17 6:00:31 PM ElSquibbonator
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* Franchise/{{LEGO}} have a "no present-day weapons" rule -- so it's okay for Minifig swords and laser guns, but not Glocks or anything like that. Presumably [[TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture in about twenty minutes]] they will have to recall all the laser guns and allow muskets.

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* Franchise/{{LEGO}} have typically had a "no present-day weapons" rule (this is usually understood to mean "20th century or later) -- so it's okay for Minifig swords and laser guns, but not Glocks or anything like that. Presumably [[TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture in about twenty minutes]] they will have to recall all the laser guns and allow muskets.



** However, there are pistols and tommyguns in the Franchise/{{Batman}} and Franchise/IndianaJones sets, albeit still cartoony. And there's always third-party Brickarms to supply your minifigs with firearms.
** IIRC the "present-day" means "20th century or later".
*** The "present day" rule actually isn't as strict as it used to be - at first no form of realistic gunpowder weapon were allowed at all, even obviously obsolete ones. This was eventually relaxed in the 1990s for the Pirate theme (which contained 18th-century-style muskets) and the Western theme (which had pistols and rifles). Since then, a number of other themes, including ''Toys/LEGOAdventurers'', ''Franchise/IndianaJones'', and ''Film/WonderWoman'', have included guns. Nowadays it's more like "no realistic non-stylized modern weapons", not "no modern weapons period."

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** However, there are pistols and tommyguns in the Franchise/{{Batman}} and Franchise/IndianaJones sets, albeit still cartoony. And there's always third-party Brickarms to supply your minifigs with firearms.
** IIRC the "present-day" means "20th century or later".
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The "present day" rule actually isn't as strict as it used to be - at first no form of realistic gunpowder weapon were allowed at all, even obviously obsolete ones. This was eventually relaxed in the 1990s for the Pirate theme (which contained 18th-century-style muskets) and the Western theme (which had pistols and rifles). Since then, then a number of other themes, including ''Toys/LEGOAdventurers'', ''Franchise/IndianaJones'', ''Franchise/Batman'' and ''Film/WonderWoman'', have included guns.guns (usually highly stylized ones). Nowadays it's more like "no realistic non-stylized modern weapons", not "no modern weapons period."
5th Oct '17 5:55:44 PM ElSquibbonator
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*** The "present day" rule was actually relaxed at some point - no form of realistic gunpowder weapon was allowed at first, even obviously obsolete ones. This was eventually relaxed in the 1990s for the Pirate theme (which contained 18th-century-style muskets) and the Western theme (which had pistols and rifles). The ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' sets also contained models based on real military vehicles, as do the sets based on ''Film/WonderWoman''. Nowadays it's more like "no realistic non-stylized modern weapons", not "no modern weapons period".

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*** The "present day" rule was actually relaxed isn't as strict as it used to be - at some point - first no form of realistic gunpowder weapon was were allowed at first, all, even obviously obsolete ones. This was eventually relaxed in the 1990s for the Pirate theme (which contained 18th-century-style muskets) and the Western theme (which had pistols and rifles). The ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' sets also contained models based on real military vehicles, as do the sets based on ''Film/WonderWoman''. Since then, a number of other themes, including ''Toys/LEGOAdventurers'', ''Franchise/IndianaJones'', and ''Film/WonderWoman'', have included guns. Nowadays it's more like "no realistic non-stylized modern weapons", not "no modern weapons period".period."



** This is the main gripe of the Technic fans, as these older consumers know full well that Lego has the ability to create realistic, working tanks and military aircraft and that they would be awesome. But because of the "no realistic modern weapons" rule [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings that's unlikely]]. The only exceptions--indeed, the only realistic military vehicle models LEGO has ''ever'' produced-- were a series of [[http://www.ibrickcity.com/lego-10226-sopwith-camel/ collector's]] [[http://lego.wikia.com/wiki/10024_Red_Baron models]] featuring a Sopwith Camel and a Fokker Triplane, two World War I fighter planes kits released in 2002.
** It is probably for this reason that the Lego Star Wars line is considered to be their best selling line, as they can make movie-accurate guns and war machines without violating their rule. In particular the old technic lines and the larger hobbysets are much well received by the older demographic, who long for realistic tanks, but get close enough with a movie-accurate scale Millennium Falcon or Imperial Walker.

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** This is the main gripe of the Technic fans, as these older consumers know full well that Lego has the ability to create realistic, working tanks and military aircraft and that they would be awesome. But because of the "no realistic modern weapons" rule [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings that's unlikely]]. The only exceptions--indeed, the only realistic military vehicle models LEGO has ''ever'' produced-- were a series of [[http://www.ibrickcity.com/lego-10226-sopwith-camel/ collector's]] [[http://lego.wikia.com/wiki/10024_Red_Baron models]] featuring a Sopwith Camel and a Fokker Triplane, two World War I fighter planes kits released in 2002.
** It is probably for this reason that the Lego Star Wars line is considered to be their best selling line, as they can make movie-accurate guns and war machines without violating their rule. In particular the old technic lines and the larger hobbysets are much well received by the older demographic, who long for realistic tanks, but get close enough with a movie-accurate scale Millennium Falcon X-wing Fighter or Imperial Walker.



* In a few of episodes of ''WesternAnimation/TheNewAdventuresOfWinnieThePooh'' characters used '''[[ImprobableWeaponUser ice cream scoopers]]''' [[FamilyFriendlyFirearms in place of guns.]]

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* In a few of episodes of ''WesternAnimation/TheNewAdventuresOfWinnieThePooh'' characters used '''[[ImprobableWeaponUser ice cream scoopers]]''' [[FamilyFriendlyFirearms in place of guns.]]guns.
* Similarly, in ''
12th Sep '17 9:03:19 AM Novaheart
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*** ''[[Anime/DigimonXrosWars Digimon Fusion]]'', however, recolors him in blue.

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*** ''[[Anime/DigimonXrosWars Digimon Fusion]]'', however, recolors him in blue. It also recolors anything looking like a gun ''with lightening sparking around it'' in the English dub.


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* Just like with ''Digimon Fusion'' above, the Nick dub of ''VideoGame/DanballSenki'' also recolored all guns with lightening sparking all over them.
11th Sep '17 5:09:21 AM jormis29
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* This trope was, ironically, averted by a bizarre case of ExecutiveMeddling in the case of ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes''. Originally, the episodes set in World War II were supposed to actually be the Marvel Universe conception of World War II, Nazis and all. Realistic firearms were also called for. However, according to original showrunner Christopher Yost, Disney's BSP unit made them a deal -- they could ''either'' have Nazis in [=WW2=], but they had to use lasers, or they could have realistic firearms but no Nazis. Hence ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, the ComicBook/HowlingCommandos and [[ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} James Howlett]] all shoot hot lead at HYDRA, who are apparently helping unseen, unmentioned Nazis conquer Europe.

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* This trope was, ironically, averted by a bizarre case of ExecutiveMeddling in the case of ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes''. Originally, the episodes set in World War II were supposed to actually be the Marvel Universe conception of World War II, Nazis and all. Realistic firearms were also called for. However, according to original showrunner Christopher Yost, Creator/ChristopherYost, Disney's BSP unit made them a deal -- they could ''either'' have Nazis in [=WW2=], but they had to use lasers, or they could have realistic firearms but no Nazis. Hence ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, the ComicBook/HowlingCommandos and [[ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} James Howlett]] all shoot hot lead at HYDRA, who are apparently helping unseen, unmentioned Nazis conquer Europe.
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