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2nd Dec '17 3:46:18 PM MasterN
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This binary approach is also a common media trope. Simply put: it is a lot easier for an audience to understand a story where characters are villains ''[[BlackAndWhiteMorality or]]'' heroes.[[note]]This even extends to troping behavior; TheHero or TheVillain are ''not'' obligatory tropes in a story, but many morally complex characters still [[ShoehornedExample get shoehorned into these roles]].[[/note]] In the simpler romances, it is more straightforward if characters exhibit a transcendent love, or an excoriating hate. Contrast GoldenMeanFallacy. Necessary for someone to be able to TakeAThirdOption (though, of course, doing that instantly subverts this trope by revealing the falsity of the dichotomy). A SadisticChoice is similar, except ''all'' of the given options are horrible. Compare and contrast the SemanticSlipperySlopeFallacy.

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This binary approach is also a common media trope. Simply put: it is a lot easier for an audience to understand a story where characters are villains ''[[BlackAndWhiteMorality or]]'' heroes.[[note]]This even extends to troping behavior; TheHero or TheVillain and the BigBad are ''not'' obligatory tropes in a story, but many morally complex characters still [[ShoehornedExample get shoehorned into these roles]].[[/note]] In the simpler romances, it is more straightforward if characters exhibit a transcendent love, or an excoriating hate. Contrast GoldenMeanFallacy. Necessary for someone to be able to TakeAThirdOption (though, of course, doing that instantly subverts this trope by revealing the falsity of the dichotomy). A SadisticChoice is similar, except ''all'' of the given options are horrible. Compare and contrast the SemanticSlipperySlopeFallacy.
2nd Dec '17 3:45:37 PM MasterN
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This binary approach is also a common media trope. Simply put: it is a lot easier for an audience to understand a story where characters are villains ''or'' heroes.[[note]]This even extends to troping behavior; TheHero or TheVillain are ''not'' obligatory tropes in a story, but many morally complex characters still [[ShoehornedExample get shoehorned into these roles]].[[/note]] In the simpler romances, it is more straightforward if characters exhibit a transcendent love, or an excoriating hate. Contrast GoldenMeanFallacy. Necessary for someone to be able to TakeAThirdOption (though, of course, doing that instantly subverts this trope by revealing the falsity of the dichotomy). A SadisticChoice is similar, except ''all'' of the given options are horrible. Compare and contrast the SemanticSlipperySlopeFallacy.

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This binary approach is also a common media trope. Simply put: it is a lot easier for an audience to understand a story where characters are villains ''or'' ''[[BlackAndWhiteMorality or]]'' heroes.[[note]]This even extends to troping behavior; TheHero or TheVillain are ''not'' obligatory tropes in a story, but many morally complex characters still [[ShoehornedExample get shoehorned into these roles]].[[/note]] In the simpler romances, it is more straightforward if characters exhibit a transcendent love, or an excoriating hate. Contrast GoldenMeanFallacy. Necessary for someone to be able to TakeAThirdOption (though, of course, doing that instantly subverts this trope by revealing the falsity of the dichotomy). A SadisticChoice is similar, except ''all'' of the given options are horrible. Compare and contrast the SemanticSlipperySlopeFallacy.
20th Nov '17 10:11:09 AM garthvader
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The inverse is called '''Denying the Correlative''', wherein someone attempts to TakeAThirdOption where there ''is'' no third option. For example, being asked a yes or no question and answering "maybe."
20th Nov '17 12:11:46 AM garthvader
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A more subtle form is to argue that a statement of support for one thing means the opponent opposes another thing which is ''seen to be'' an opposed position, but which is not actually mutually exclusive with it at all:

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A more subtle form is to argue that a statement of support for one thing means the opponent speaker opposes another thing which is ''seen to be'' an opposed position, but which is not actually mutually exclusive with it at all:
20th Nov '17 12:11:08 AM garthvader
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-->''Alice:''' I like cats.\\

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-->''Alice:''' -->'''Alice:''' I like cats.\\
20th Nov '17 12:10:49 AM garthvader
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A more subtle form is to argue that a statement of support for one thing means the opponent opposes another thing which is ''seen to be'' an opposed position, but which is not actually mutually exclusive with it at all:

-->''Alice:''' I like cats.\\
'''Bob:''' Why do you hate dogs?
14th Nov '17 12:08:38 PM randomtroper89
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* The concept of False Consciousness can involve this. While the idea is supposed to refer anyone who pretends to believe an ideology but has an ulterior motive, some people assume that anyone who doesn't share their worldview must be have one by default.

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* The concept of False Consciousness can involve this. While the idea is supposed to refer anyone who pretends to believe an ideology ideology, but has an ulterior motive, motive; some people assume that anyone who doesn't share their worldview must be have one one, or are being deceived by someone who does, by default.
14th Nov '17 12:07:46 PM randomtroper89
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* The concept of False Consciousness is this in spades. It assumes that anyone who doesn't share the views of the user's worldview must be stupid/brainwashed/mentally ill/evil/a sellout/etc.

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* The concept of False Consciousness can involve this. While the idea is this in spades. It assumes supposed to refer anyone who pretends to believe an ideology but has an ulterior motive, some people assume that anyone who doesn't share the views of the user's their worldview must be stupid/brainwashed/mentally ill/evil/a sellout/etc.have one by default.
2nd Nov '17 11:44:58 PM randomtroper89
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** [[LawfulGood Law & Order]] [[LawfulNeutral vs]] [[LawfulEvil Oppression]] : It all depends on if you agree with the law or not.
** Rebellion vs Revolution: [[WrittenByTheWinners It all depends on who wins.]] If the government wins, it was only a rebellion. If the not-government wins, it is a revolution.
* Conspiracy theorists frequently commit this. Either you accept that their conspiracy is true, or you're a mindless sheep who believes whatever the establishment says. [[SarcasmMode Obviously, it's impossible for one to believe the establishment lies sometimes, but they happened to be telling the truth this one particular time.]]

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** * [[LawfulGood Law & Order]] [[LawfulNeutral vs]] [[LawfulEvil Oppression]] : It all depends on if you agree with the law or not.
** * Rebellion vs Revolution: [[WrittenByTheWinners It all depends on who wins.]] If the government wins, it was only a rebellion. If the not-government wins, it is a revolution.
* Conspiracy theorists frequently commit this. this:
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Either you accept that their conspiracy is true, or you're a mindless sheep who believes whatever the establishment says. [[SarcasmMode Obviously, it's impossible for one to believe the establishment lies sometimes, but they happened to be telling the truth this one particular time.]]
11th Oct '17 9:36:20 AM Anorgil
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** Rebellion vs Revolution: It all depends on who wins. If the government wins, it was only a rebellion. If the not-government wins, it is a revolution.

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** Rebellion vs Revolution: [[WrittenByTheWinners It all depends on who wins. wins.]] If the government wins, it was only a rebellion. If the not-government wins, it is a revolution.
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