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3rd Sep '17 6:20:38 PM angie710
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* NoTrueScotsman
26th Aug '17 9:26:12 AM Killerikala
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** Any country where the men can choose between the army and civilian service. Either you are a real man by going to the army, or a wuss, a traitor and [[UnfortunateImplications possibly gay]] if you go with the latter.[[note]][[SarcasmMode Because all gay men run away in fear if guns are present]][[/note]] Many of those who choose the latter do it not because of fear, but because of personal reasons, such as pacifism or serious issues with social situations[[note]]For example, an [[UsefulNotes/AspergersSyndrome Aspie]], who gets nervous at the mere thought of constant social interaction would know they can't take it for long, and thus find the idea of having their own space when not working superior[[/note]], and would be perfectly willing to defend their country if required. ([[UnfortunateImplications So, since no-one ever complains about most ''Women'' not going to the army, are they traitors]], or [[StayInTheKitchen are they considered too weak to defend the country by default?]])

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** Any country where the men can choose between the army and civilian service. Either you are a real man by going to the army, or a wuss, a traitor and [[UnfortunateImplications possibly gay]] if you go with the latter.[[note]][[SarcasmMode Because all gay men run away in fear if guns are present]][[/note]] Many of those who choose the latter do it not because of fear, but because of personal reasons, such as pacifism or serious issues with social situations[[note]]For example, an [[UsefulNotes/AspergersSyndrome Aspie]], who gets nervous at the mere thought of constant social interaction would know they can't take it for long, and thus find the idea of having their own space when not working superior[[/note]], and would be perfectly willing to defend their country if required. ([[UnfortunateImplications So, since no-one ever complains about most ''Women'' Women not going to the army, are they traitors]], or [[StayInTheKitchen are they considered too weak to defend the country by default?]])
26th Aug '17 9:24:09 AM Killerikala
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** Any country where the men can choose between the army and civilian service. Either you are a real man by going to the army, or a wuss, a traitor and [[UnfortunateImplications possibly gay]] if you go with the latter.[[note]][[SarcasmMode Because all gay men run away in fear if guns are present]][[/note]] Many of those who choose the latter do it not because of fear, but because of personal reasons, such as pacifism or serious issues with social situations[[note]]For example, an [[UsefulNotes/AspergersSyndrome Aspie]], who gets nervous at the mere thought of constant social interaction would know they can't take it for long, and thus find the idea of having their own space when not working superior[[/note]], and would be perfectly willing to defend their country if required. ([[UnfortunateImplications So, since no-one ever complains about most ''Women'' not going to the army, are they traitors]], or [[StayInTheKitchen are they considered too weak to defend the country by default?]])
21st Aug '17 1:58:25 PM dclark
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* One common joke involves a kid riding a bicycle (or donkey, in some versions) across a border with a sack of straw every day for years; a suspicious border guard stops him every time and checks the sack for smuggled goods, never finding anything. When the two meet years later and the officer asks what the kid was actually smuggling, the answer is "bikes/donkeys". The false dichotomy comes in because the guard falsely assumed that the kid was either smuggling something in the sack, or not smuggling at all.


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** While the other side of the debate often claims that anyone who spanks their child is automatically a psychopathic abuser. Both sides tend to ignore that what works or is necessary for one child may not apply the same way to another.
4th Jul '17 2:55:34 PM angie710
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* MadonnaWhoreComplex; denies that a woman can be moral and ethical, and sexually active at the same time. She is either one or the other.

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* MadonnaWhoreComplex; denies that a woman can be moral and ethical, and sexually active or desirous at the same time. She is either one or the other.
1st Jul '17 9:14:37 AM nombretomado
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* It is said[[note]]According to TheOtherWiki, the sources all date to at least 500 years after the event, so the account may be unreliable[[/note]] that the Library of Alexandria was burned down by 'Amr ibn al-'As on the basis that if the scrolls were in agreement with the Quran, they were superfluous, whereas if they opposed it they were blasphemous. This of course ignored the vastly more likely possibility that they had no connection to it at all.

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* It is said[[note]]According to TheOtherWiki, Wiki/TheOtherWiki, the sources all date to at least 500 years after the event, so the account may be unreliable[[/note]] that the Library of Alexandria was burned down by 'Amr ibn al-'As on the basis that if the scrolls were in agreement with the Quran, they were superfluous, whereas if they opposed it they were blasphemous. This of course ignored the vastly more likely possibility that they had no connection to it at all.
21st Jun '17 8:45:07 AM Madrugada
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* TheEnemyOfMyEnemyIsMyFriend: This invokes the false dilemma that you and your "friend" must be on the same side, simply because you are not on the ''other'' side.

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* TheEnemyOfMyEnemyIsMyFriend: This invokes the false dilemma that you and your "friend" must be on the same side, simply because there is something else that you are not on the ''other'' side.both oppose.



* MadonnaWhoreComplex

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* MadonnaWhoreComplex
MadonnaWhoreComplex; denies that a woman can be moral and ethical, and sexually active at the same time. She is either one or the other.
21st Jun '17 8:33:20 AM Madrugada
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A false dichotomy,[[note]]("Die-cot-uh-me/Dai-cot-ah-mi")[[/note]] also known as either/or reasoning, the black/white fallacy, or false dilemma, is when just two options are presented for something when there are actually (many) others. Moreover, the two options presented are rigged to favour one answer. There are two ways of doing this:

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A false dichotomy,[[note]]("Die-cot-uh-me/Dai-cot-ah-mi")[[/note]] also known as either/or reasoning, the black/white fallacy, or false dilemma, or binary thinking, is when just two options are presented for something when there are actually (many) others. Moreover, the two options presented are rigged to favour one answer. There are two ways of doing this:
14th May '17 4:36:35 AM Trueman001
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* It is said[[note]]According to TheOtherWiki, the sources all date to at least 500 years after the event, so the account may be unreliable[[/note]] that the Library of Alexandria was burned down by 'Amr ibn al-'As on the basis that if the scrolls were in agreement with the Quran, they were superfluous, whereas if they opposed it they were blasphemous. This of course ignored the vastly more likely possibility that they had no connection to it at all.
12th May '17 11:52:48 PM Tuckerscreator
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* ''Film/ThankYouForSmoking'': Nick Naylor's career as a tobacco lobbyist runs on this, using rapid counterattacks of ChewbaccaDefense, InsaneTrollLogic, and MovingTheGoalposts to discredit his opponents, thereby making himself looking like the smarter one by comparison. As he explains it to his son during a theoretical debate exercise, "I proved that you're wrong. And if you're wrong, I'm right."

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* ''Film/ThankYouForSmoking'': Nick Naylor's career as a tobacco lobbyist runs on this, using rapid counterattacks attacks of ChewbaccaDefense, InsaneTrollLogic, and MovingTheGoalposts to discredit his opponents, thereby making himself looking like the smarter one by comparison. As he explains it to his son during a theoretical debate exercise, "I proved that you're wrong. And if you're wrong, I'm right."
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