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10th Mar '18 10:47:11 PM Wooboo
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** There's also the broader dichotomy that by being LGBTQ, you must also be a liberal and support liberal causes. This is of course ignoring the fact that one's sexual orientation does not affect their views on things such as the economy or military spending. In one example, the idea of being a gay Republican in the United States is often seen as joke material, but there is a significant number of people within the Republican party who are also gay. The organization [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_Cabin_Republicans Log Cabin Republicans]] has been representing this membership since the late 1970's, and has even been the subject of a documentary, ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Republicans_(film) Gay Republicans]]''.
15th Feb '18 6:47:07 PM TitaniumDragon
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* There really are only two options.
** The simplest form of this is to make the choices "A" or "Not A". In this case, "Not A" encompasses ''everything'' that isn't "A", even if that category is massive. For example, "You're either a Conservative, or not a Conservative," does include all possibilities, even though "Not a Conservative" includes liberals, libertarians, anarchists, or any other political philosophy that isn't simply conservatism by another name. More simply, if a cafeteria only serves tea or coffee and you ask for a drink, "tea or coffee?" is not presenting a false dilemma.

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* There really are only two options.
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options. If a cafeteria only serves tea or coffee and you ask for a drink, "tea or coffee?" is not presenting a false dilemma.
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The simplest form of this is to make the choices are "A" or "Not A". In this case, "Not A" encompasses ''everything'' that isn't "A", even if that category is massive. For example, "You're either a Conservative, or not a Conservative," does include all possibilities, even though "Not a Conservative" includes liberals, libertarians, anarchists, or any other political philosophy that isn't simply conservatism by another name. More simply, if a cafeteria only serves tea or coffee and you ask for a drink, "tea or coffee?" is not presenting a false dilemma.
25th Jan '18 2:04:51 PM laserviking42
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** A common claim from conspiracy theorists is always along the lines of "You're trying to destroy my theory? You must be one of them!", ignoring the fact that maybe people who have no personal stake in the argument find it completely insane.
15th Dec '17 1:15:47 AM Anddrix
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* The LoveItOrHateIt trope. There ''is'' a group of middle-of-the-road viewers/readers/players, but they are generally ignored. (However, the reason it's a trope in the first place is because that middle-of-the-road group is far smaller than for most fandoms.)
12th Dec '17 7:23:37 PM BackgroundGuy
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* TheEnemyOfMyEnemyIsMyFriend: This invokes the false dilemma that you and your "friend" must be on the same side, simply because there is something else that you both oppose.

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* TheEnemyOfMyEnemyIsMyFriend: This invokes the false dilemma that you and your "friend" must be on the same side, simply because there is something else that you both oppose.oppose the same thing.
2nd Dec '17 3:46:18 PM MasterN
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This binary approach is also a common media trope. Simply put: it is a lot easier for an audience to understand a story where characters are villains ''[[BlackAndWhiteMorality or]]'' heroes.[[note]]This even extends to troping behavior; TheHero or TheVillain are ''not'' obligatory tropes in a story, but many morally complex characters still [[ShoehornedExample get shoehorned into these roles]].[[/note]] In the simpler romances, it is more straightforward if characters exhibit a transcendent love, or an excoriating hate. Contrast GoldenMeanFallacy. Necessary for someone to be able to TakeAThirdOption (though, of course, doing that instantly subverts this trope by revealing the falsity of the dichotomy). A SadisticChoice is similar, except ''all'' of the given options are horrible. Compare and contrast the SemanticSlipperySlopeFallacy.

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This binary approach is also a common media trope. Simply put: it is a lot easier for an audience to understand a story where characters are villains ''[[BlackAndWhiteMorality or]]'' heroes.[[note]]This even extends to troping behavior; TheHero or TheVillain and the BigBad are ''not'' obligatory tropes in a story, but many morally complex characters still [[ShoehornedExample get shoehorned into these roles]].[[/note]] In the simpler romances, it is more straightforward if characters exhibit a transcendent love, or an excoriating hate. Contrast GoldenMeanFallacy. Necessary for someone to be able to TakeAThirdOption (though, of course, doing that instantly subverts this trope by revealing the falsity of the dichotomy). A SadisticChoice is similar, except ''all'' of the given options are horrible. Compare and contrast the SemanticSlipperySlopeFallacy.
2nd Dec '17 3:45:37 PM MasterN
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This binary approach is also a common media trope. Simply put: it is a lot easier for an audience to understand a story where characters are villains ''or'' heroes.[[note]]This even extends to troping behavior; TheHero or TheVillain are ''not'' obligatory tropes in a story, but many morally complex characters still [[ShoehornedExample get shoehorned into these roles]].[[/note]] In the simpler romances, it is more straightforward if characters exhibit a transcendent love, or an excoriating hate. Contrast GoldenMeanFallacy. Necessary for someone to be able to TakeAThirdOption (though, of course, doing that instantly subverts this trope by revealing the falsity of the dichotomy). A SadisticChoice is similar, except ''all'' of the given options are horrible. Compare and contrast the SemanticSlipperySlopeFallacy.

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This binary approach is also a common media trope. Simply put: it is a lot easier for an audience to understand a story where characters are villains ''or'' ''[[BlackAndWhiteMorality or]]'' heroes.[[note]]This even extends to troping behavior; TheHero or TheVillain are ''not'' obligatory tropes in a story, but many morally complex characters still [[ShoehornedExample get shoehorned into these roles]].[[/note]] In the simpler romances, it is more straightforward if characters exhibit a transcendent love, or an excoriating hate. Contrast GoldenMeanFallacy. Necessary for someone to be able to TakeAThirdOption (though, of course, doing that instantly subverts this trope by revealing the falsity of the dichotomy). A SadisticChoice is similar, except ''all'' of the given options are horrible. Compare and contrast the SemanticSlipperySlopeFallacy.
20th Nov '17 10:11:09 AM garthvader
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The inverse is called '''Denying the Correlative''', wherein someone attempts to TakeAThirdOption where there ''is'' no third option. For example, being asked a yes or no question and answering "maybe."
20th Nov '17 12:11:46 AM garthvader
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A more subtle form is to argue that a statement of support for one thing means the opponent opposes another thing which is ''seen to be'' an opposed position, but which is not actually mutually exclusive with it at all:

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A more subtle form is to argue that a statement of support for one thing means the opponent speaker opposes another thing which is ''seen to be'' an opposed position, but which is not actually mutually exclusive with it at all:
20th Nov '17 12:11:08 AM garthvader
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-->''Alice:''' I like cats.\\

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-->''Alice:''' -->'''Alice:''' I like cats.\\
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