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9th Oct '17 5:12:23 AM Sedaver
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Why was it so hard for him to see this? Maybe he spent so much time [[JerkassFacade pretending to be a not-so-nice guy]] [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold and hiding that golden heart of his]] that he started to [[BelievingTheirOwnLies believe it himself]], or perhaps after [[ReformedButRejected after being turned down by the heroes]] [[ThenLetMeBeEvil he decides to embrace villainy]] but finds that [[IfYoureSoEvilEatThisKitten kitten eating doesn't really suit him]] no matter how pissed he is at the hero. In other cases, GoodFeelsGood can creep up on you -- but sometimes it takes a while to sink in past the pretense that it's all a front.

Generally there are 2 ways this can end up:

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Why was it so hard for him to see this? Maybe he spent so much time [[JerkassFacade pretending to be a not-so-nice guy]] [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold and hiding that golden heart of his]] that he started to [[BelievingTheirOwnLies believe it himself]], or perhaps after [[ReformedButRejected after being turned down by the heroes]] [[ThenLetMeBeEvil he decides to embrace villainy]] but finds that [[IfYoureSoEvilEatThisKitten kitten eating doesn't really suit him]] no matter how pissed he is at the hero. In other cases, GoodFeelsGood can creep up on you -- but sometimes it takes a while to sink in past the pretense pretence that it's all a front.

Generally Generally, there are 2 ways this can end up:



* Vegeta in ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' was a murderous, egotistical, power hungry bastard, but after getting married and raising a family, he found it hard to go back to his more villainous (and in his opinion more powerful) self. He had to cut a deal with a evil wizard to make himself evil again, and even then, he was still too good. It finally sinks in that he is no longer the villain he used to be when, after asking the Namek Dragon to restore every person on earth who was killed by Majin Buu except the evil ones, he is brought back to life along with them.

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* Vegeta in ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' was a murderous, egotistical, power hungry bastard, but after getting married and raising a family, he found it hard to go back to his more villainous (and in his opinion more powerful) self. He had to cut a deal with a an evil wizard to make himself evil again, and even then, he was still too good. It finally sinks in that he is no longer the villain he used to be when, after asking the Namek Dragon to restore every person on earth who was killed by Majin Buu except the evil ones, he is brought back to life along with them.



* Played with in ''Literature/NightWatch''. [[spoiler:Arina]] at some point realizes that she is doing mainly good deeds instead of ChaoticNeutral, so she [[spoiler: changes alignments.]]

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* Played with in ''Literature/NightWatch''. [[spoiler:Arina]] [[spoiler: Arina]] at some point realizes that she is doing mainly good deeds instead of ChaoticNeutral, so she [[spoiler: changes alignments.]]



* In ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', in the very last moment of his life, Darth Vader says to Luke, "You were right about me." While his DeathEqualsRedemption move doesn't exactly scrub away his countless KickTheDog acts, on the whole, his tragic life actually produced many good things, culminating in the destruction of the Sith.

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* In ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', in the very last moment of his life, Darth Vader says to Luke, "You were right about me." While his DeathEqualsRedemption RedemptionEqualsDeath move doesn't exactly scrub away his countless KickTheDog acts, on the whole, his tragic life actually produced many good things, culminating in the destruction of the Sith.



* This seems to be used regularly in works by Creator/DavidGemmell. He would often have a character who because of a tough life thought of himself as a mean bastard who only did things for selfish reason. The character would join the protagonist(s) because it seemed to benefit him. However, at the end he would find that he really is a good person though it often preceded a HeroicSacrifice.

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* This seems to be used regularly in works by Creator/DavidGemmell. He would often have a character who because of a tough life thought of himself as a mean bastard who only did things for selfish reason.reasons. The character would join the protagonist(s) because it seemed to benefit him. However, at the end end, he would find that he really is a good person though it often preceded a HeroicSacrifice.



* In ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaLordsOfShadow2'', [[spoiler:Gabriel Belmont/Dracula, who has been doing various semi-heroic things over the course of the game while believing [[ThenLetMeBeEvil he had resigned himself to villainy long ago]], remembers the MemoryGambit he and his son {{Alucard}} [[TheChessmaster had come up with]] when Alucard touches his shoulder while he is about to go and kill [[CorruptChurch Guido Szandor]]. The smile on his face says it all]].

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* In ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaLordsOfShadow2'', [[spoiler:Gabriel [[spoiler: Gabriel Belmont/Dracula, who has been doing various semi-heroic things over the course of the game while believing [[ThenLetMeBeEvil he had resigned himself to villainy long ago]], remembers the MemoryGambit he and his son {{Alucard}} [[TheChessmaster had come up with]] when Alucard touches his shoulder while he is about to go and kill [[CorruptChurch Guido Szandor]]. The smile on his face says it all]].



* During the second "Boiling Rock" episode of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', [[spoiler:Mai]] pulls a YouShallNotPass to save [[spoiler:Zuko]]. After being captured, she prepares to face Azula's wrath. Which is when [[spoiler:Ty Lee surprises everyone, including herself, by blocking Azula's chi to prevent her from killing Mai]].

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* During the second "Boiling Rock" episode of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', [[spoiler:Mai]] pulls a YouShallNotPass to save [[spoiler:Zuko]]. After being captured, she prepares to face Azula's wrath. Which is when [[spoiler:Ty [[spoiler: Ty Lee surprises everyone, including herself, by blocking Azula's chi to prevent her from killing Mai]].
6th Sep '17 6:29:02 PM GoblinCipher
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So Commander KillEmAll is a bad guy. A really bad guy. Why is he so bad? Because He says so, and he would know right. [[KickTheDog He kicks puppies]], [[WouldHurtAChild drop kicks babies]], and isn't afraid of any KnightInShiningArmor. He's no HarmlessVillain. He's a potential BigBad...

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So Commander KillEmAll is a bad guy. A really bad guy. Why is he so bad? Because He he says so, and he would know right. know, right? [[KickTheDog He kicks puppies]], [[WouldHurtAChild drop kicks babies]], and isn't afraid of any KnightInShiningArmor. He's no HarmlessVillain. He's a potential BigBad...
3rd Apr '17 8:12:10 AM Dravencour
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Why was it so hard for him to see this? Maybe he spent so much time [[JerkassFacade pretending to be a not-so-nice guy]] [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold and hiding that golden heart of his]] that he started to [[BelievingTheirOwnLies believe it himself]], or perhaps after [[ReformedButRejected after being turned down by the heroes]] [[ThenLetMeBeEvil he decides to embrace villainy]] but finds that [[IfYoureSoEvilEatThisKitten kitten eating doesn't suit him]] no matter how pissed he is at the hero. In other cases, GoodFeelsGood can creep up on you -- but sometimes it takes a while to sink in past the pretense that it's all a front.

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Why was it so hard for him to see this? Maybe he spent so much time [[JerkassFacade pretending to be a not-so-nice guy]] [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold and hiding that golden heart of his]] that he started to [[BelievingTheirOwnLies believe it himself]], or perhaps after [[ReformedButRejected after being turned down by the heroes]] [[ThenLetMeBeEvil he decides to embrace villainy]] but finds that [[IfYoureSoEvilEatThisKitten kitten eating doesn't really suit him]] no matter how pissed he is at the hero. In other cases, GoodFeelsGood can creep up on you -- but sometimes it takes a while to sink in past the pretense that it's all a front.



The villain realizes that he has been doing good all along, but instead of embracing this, he or she is ashamed / repulsed by it and/or considers this as ''disrespect'' to evil and either steps down or tries to live on as a villain despite this. Particularly popular with {{PragmaticVillain|y}}s.

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The villain realizes that he has been doing good all along, but instead of embracing this, he or she is ashamed / repulsed by it and/or considers this as ''disrespect'' to evil and either steps down or tries to live on as a villain despite this. Particularly popular with {{PragmaticVillain|y}}s.
{{Pragmatic Villain|y}}s.
3rd Apr '17 8:11:35 AM Dravencour
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Type A

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Type B
The villain realizes that he has been doing good all along, but instead of embracing this, he or she is ashamed / repulsed at it and/or considers this as ''disrespect'' to evil and either steps down or tries to live on as a villain despite this. Particularly popular with PragmaticVillainy character archetypes.

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Type B
B\\
The villain realizes that he has been doing good all along, but instead of embracing this, he or she is ashamed / repulsed at by it and/or considers this as ''disrespect'' to evil and either steps down or tries to live on as a villain despite this. Particularly popular with PragmaticVillainy character archetypes.
{{PragmaticVillain|y}}s.
7th Jan '17 9:18:15 PM EdwardGil
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Compare HazyFeelTurn where it sorta happens gradually and there was no real single moment.
7th Jan '17 8:50:50 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* Wrestling/{{Mistico}} tried his hand a being a rudo, liking the "all is fair in love and war" philosophy he learned his ArchNemesis Averno was living by when they were forced to team up by Wrestling/{{CMLL}} and declared he was defending Mexico City. However, after trying to live it out, Mistico realized he was no good at it and went back to wrestling as a technico.

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* Wrestling/{{Mistico}} tried his hand a being a rudo, liking the "all is fair in love and war" philosophy he learned his ArchNemesis Averno was living by when they were forced to team up by Wrestling/{{CMLL}} and declared he was defending Mexico City. However, after trying to live it out, Mistico realized he was no good at it and went back to wrestling as a technico.tecnico.
12th Dec '16 6:11:30 PM Doug86
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* Vegeta in ''DragonBallZ'' was a murderous, egotistical, power hungry bastard, but after getting married and raising a family, he found it hard to go back to his more villainous (and in his opinion more powerful) self. He had to cut a deal with a evil wizard to make himself evil again, and even then, he was still too good. It finally sinks in that he is no longer the villain he used to be when, after asking the Namek Dragon to restore every person on earth who was killed by Majin Buu except the evil ones, he is brought back to life along with them.

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* Vegeta in ''DragonBallZ'' ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' was a murderous, egotistical, power hungry bastard, but after getting married and raising a family, he found it hard to go back to his more villainous (and in his opinion more powerful) self. He had to cut a deal with a evil wizard to make himself evil again, and even then, he was still too good. It finally sinks in that he is no longer the villain he used to be when, after asking the Namek Dragon to restore every person on earth who was killed by Majin Buu except the evil ones, he is brought back to life along with them.
5th Nov '16 2:44:06 PM jjjj2
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* In ''Series/BreakingBad'', Jesse Pinkman comes to accept that he is the "bad guy" and from then on tries to invoke several KickTheDog moments such as selling meth to a support group. Come the end of that season; he is emotionally exploited into murdering another person as a scheme of Walter White, as a result Jesse breaks down into tears in the act and spends most of the next season in a HeroicBSOD.
18th Sep '16 10:24:30 AM Prometheus117
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* During his brief stint as an ArcVillain in ''Manga/FairyTail'', Laxus tries to finish the fight against Natsu and Gajeel by invoking Fairy Law, a spell that annihilates anyone the caster sees as an enemy. Laxus is shaken when the spell fails to hit a single person.

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* During his brief stint as an ArcVillain in ''Manga/FairyTail'', Laxus tries to finish the fight [[CurbStompBattle fight]] against Natsu and Gajeel by invoking Fairy Law, a spell that annihilates anyone the caster sees as an enemy. Laxus is shaken when the spell fails to hit a single person.person, originally thinking that something went wrong with casting, but the realization that he couldn't kill anyone simply because deep down he didn't ''want'' to sends him into UnstoppableRage and trying to kill Natsu the [[ShockAndAwe old-fashioned way]]. He only accepts this as fact after he's defeated and calms down.
28th Jul '16 6:52:02 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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The villain realizes that he has been doing good all along, but instead of embracing this, he or she is ashamed / repulsed at it and/or considers this as ''disrespect'' to evil and either steps down or tries to live on as a villain despite this. Particularly popular with [[PragmaticVillainy Pragmatic Villainy]] character archetypes.

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The villain realizes that he has been doing good all along, but instead of embracing this, he or she is ashamed / repulsed at it and/or considers this as ''disrespect'' to evil and either steps down or tries to live on as a villain despite this. Particularly popular with [[PragmaticVillainy Pragmatic Villainy]] PragmaticVillainy character archetypes.
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