** TT are a convoluted example. In their original early-mid 90s heyday they were often roughly three-Faced: Gary "The Talented One" Barlow, who took most of the plaudits as main lead singer and the only significantly musically-talented one of the group who contributed songwriting and musicianship, but there was also Mark "The Cute One" Owen, Robbie "The Cheeky One" Williams (who both took occasional notable lead vocals too) – and The Two Dancers At The Back... notwithstanding the fact that they were so über-famous most people knew Jason Orange and Howard Donald as well then. After Williams left the band soldiered on as a four piece but subsequently split; Williams seemed destined (bailed out early, no known musical talent, weight gain, increasing drug and drink habits) to be the [[{{Garfunkel}} Andrew Ridgeley]] to Barlow's George Michael, yet the reverse turned out to be true: after a false start or two, his hugely successful solo career so vastly outstripped the others they were largely consigned to history – especially Orange and Donald, but particularly unfortunate on Barlow, who was unable to parlay his established talent into a meaningful solo career. After the group eventually reformed minus Robbie, and initially merely ForTheLulz after a near-decade away, there was a conscious decision to share the duties/credit that brought all four of Gary, Mark, Jason and Howard back to public consciousness, averting this trope more thoroughly than they'd ever managed first time around. Ironically, their unexpectedly enormous second wave of success coincided with a downturn in Robbie's solo career, and his eventual rejoining the group (for still greater success) has so far largely averted his taking over as Face in favour of them becoming five more-or-less equals.

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** TT are a convoluted example. In their original early-mid 90s heyday they were often roughly three-Faced: Gary "The Talented One" Barlow, who took most of the plaudits as main lead singer and the only significantly musically-talented one of the group who contributed songwriting and musicianship, but there was also Mark "The Cute One" Owen, Robbie "The Cheeky One" Williams (who both took occasional notable lead vocals too)  and The Two Dancers At The Back... notwithstanding the fact that they were so über-famous most people knew Jason Orange and Howard Donald as well then. After Williams left the band soldiered on as a four piece but subsequently split; Williams seemed destined (bailed out early, no known musical talent, weight gain, increasing drug and drink habits) to be the [[{{Garfunkel}} Andrew Ridgeley]] to Barlow's George Michael, yet the reverse turned out to be true: after a false start or two, his hugely successful solo career so vastly outstripped the others they were largely consigned to history  especially Orange and Donald, but particularly unfortunate on Barlow, who was unable to parlay his established talent into a meaningful solo career. After the group eventually reformed minus Robbie, and initially merely ForTheLulz after a near-decade away, there was a conscious decision to share the duties/credit that brought all four of Gary, Mark, Jason and Howard back to public consciousness, averting this trope more thoroughly than they'd ever managed first time around. Ironically, their unexpectedly enormous second wave of success coincided with a downturn in Robbie's solo career, and his eventual rejoining the group (for still greater success) has so far largely averted his taking over as Face in favour of them becoming five more-or-less equals.

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* The Beautiful South are a confused example. For much of their 19-year existence singer/songwriter Paul Heaton was the sole Face, though casual fans would often hear reference to the "Heaton-Rotheray partnership" as the most-successful British songwriting team since Lennon-[=McCartney=]. In the middle/latter part of their career Jacqui Abbott also gained prominence as lead or co-lead vocalist on big hits like Don't Marry Her and Perfect 10. Yet listen to their sole Number One single, 1990's A Little Time, which (like Perfect 10) is a male-female duet – but it's not Heaton you hear singing. It's not Dave Rotheray either: he's the guitarist. It's Dave Hemingway, who was theoretically co-lead vocalist when the band started (he and Heaton were both in the Housemartins previously) but who got phased out of this duty later, even though he never left the band. And it's not Abbott singing the female half, either: it's the woman she replaced, Briana Corrigan, who took a fairly significant role in early-mid Beautiful South but left for an unnoticeable solo career. So by the time of the band's highest profile from 1994-8, and later, their two most-notable Faces were neither of the two people who originally sang on their biggest ever hit and not the ones who you'd hear when it came on the radio... yet most people probably didn't ever register. The band has partially reformed in recent times as touring three-piece 'The South', now led by Hemingway after all and also including Abbott's own late-period replacement and the drummer, who was there the whole way along but who no-one at all knows. He's called Dave, too.

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* The Beautiful South are a confused example. For much of their 19-year existence singer/songwriter Paul Heaton was the sole Face, though casual fans would often hear reference to the "Heaton-Rotheray partnership" as the most-successful British songwriting team since Lennon-[=McCartney=]. In the middle/latter part of their career Jacqui Abbott also gained prominence as lead or co-lead vocalist on big hits like Don't Marry Her and Perfect 10. Yet listen to their sole Number One single, 1990's A Little Time, which (like Perfect 10) is a male-female duet  but it's not Heaton you hear singing. It's not Dave Rotheray either: he's the guitarist. It's Dave Hemingway, who was theoretically co-lead vocalist when the band started (he and Heaton were both in the Housemartins previously) but who got phased out of this duty later, even though he never left the band. And it's not Abbott singing the female half, either: it's the woman she replaced, Briana Corrigan, who took a fairly significant role in early-mid Beautiful South but left for an unnoticeable solo career. So by the time of the band's highest profile from 1994-8, and later, their two most-notable Faces were neither of the two people who originally sang on their biggest ever hit and not the ones who you'd hear when it came on the radio... yet most people probably didn't ever register. The band has partially reformed in recent times as touring three-piece 'The South', now led by Hemingway after all and also including Abbott's own late-period replacement and the drummer, who was there the whole way along but who no-one at all knows. He's called Dave, too.

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