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1st Dec '12 5:57:22 AM blackcat
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1st Dec '12 5:57:03 AM blackcat
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29th Nov '12 12:01:09 PM SeptimusHeap
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TVTropes is immortal. TV Tropes does not know time. Terms such as 'recently' are meaningless to TV Tropes.

In short, TVTropes is [[TimeMarchesOn not static]].

A common mistake made by many well-intentioned {{troper}}s is to often use the words "recent", "newest", "latest" or something synonymous to describe something within their examples or article ({{trope}} or work pages) descriptions. This is usually after some change that shakes the foundation of the work or character. In their zeal, the troper will excitedly state that this is a very recent development, cluing other tropers that the new status is going on right this very minute.

As for instance:

* "In the latest issue of ''{{Superman}}''..."
* "The FiveManBand has recently gotten a [[SixthRanger new member]]..."
* "The latest law in California has made it illegal for YuriGenre fans to..."
* "[[Series/DoctorWho The Doctor]] just finished a mission to protect..."
* "Rumors about the new ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'' game are circulating that..."

'''Unfortunately, this is not a good practice.'''

A form of FanMyopia, this practice assumes that everyone who reads this will automatically be aware of how long ago "recently" was. There are still some examples which describe films, episodes, issues, or volumes from ''two or more years ago as "recent"'', but if you're not a fan of said work, how will you know whether it's true or not? For all the uninitiated person would know, CaptainAmerica "recently" died or ''BurnNotice'' is still the "hottest new show on USANetwork".[[note]]FYI, the death of Captain America and the debut of ''Burn Notice'' both occurred in 2007.[[/note]]

It also assumes everyone gets media at the same time. People in the UK usually have to wait upwards of six months to see/read a TV episode or comic issue that just appeared last week in America, and the poor Australians have to wait even longer. Thus, what to you is the most recent is, to about half of all readers, either old hat or something that won't happen until next year.

It only creates more trouble for other {{troper}}s when they have to remove mentions of the word "recent" after it isn't recent anymore. Or worse, the next troper will add an indented bullet point adding an even more recent update for the situation. So for everyone's sake, please avoid using the word "recent" or anything synonymous in writing your examples. Although TVTropes is open for anyone to edit, it should not be ''required'' for anyone to come behind another troper and fix their entry.

If it helps, try and pretend that every work, ever, was written all on the same date at some point in the vague past. Don't actually put this in your edits, of course, but use it to help you refrain from slipping in a "recent" without noticing. When talking about yet-to-be-released works or installments of series, it's better to just wait until things have actually made it to the page or screen before adding them in, rather than adding rumors or tentative information that might be contradicted by the time the work is released.

A related phenomenon can occur when linking to websites with constantly changing content, such as webcomics, news sites or blogs. Make sure the URL actually points to the specific item you're referring to, not to the site's main page.[[note]]Some sites have annoying auto-redirection that makes the "next page" link point to the front page when on the currently second-to-last page. This can make digging up the ''actual'' URL a bit tricky.[[/note]]

No Examples, please. Especially no "[[SelfDemonstratingArticle recent]]" ones.
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TVTropes is immortal. TV Tropes does not know time. Terms such as 'recently' are meaningless to TV Tropes.

In short, TVTropes is [[TimeMarchesOn not static]].

A common mistake made by many well-intentioned {{troper}}s is to often use the words "recent", "newest", "latest" or something synonymous to describe something within their examples or article ({{trope}} or work pages) descriptions. This is usually after some change that shakes the foundation of the work or character. In their zeal, the troper will excitedly state that this is a very recent development, cluing other tropers that the new status is going on right this very minute.

As for instance:

* "In the latest issue of ''{{Superman}}''..."
* "The FiveManBand has recently gotten a [[SixthRanger new member]]..."
* "The latest law in California has made it illegal for YuriGenre fans to..."
* "[[Series/DoctorWho The Doctor]] just finished a mission to protect..."
* "Rumors about the new ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'' game are circulating that..."

'''Unfortunately, this is not a good practice.'''

A form of FanMyopia, this practice assumes that everyone who reads this will automatically be aware of how long ago "recently" was. There are still some examples which describe films, episodes, issues, or volumes from ''two or more years ago as "recent"'', but if you're not a fan of said work, how will you know whether it's true or not? For all the uninitiated person would know, CaptainAmerica "recently" died or ''BurnNotice'' is still the "hottest new show on USANetwork".[[note]]FYI, the death of Captain America and the debut of ''Burn Notice'' both occurred in 2007.[[/note]]

It also assumes everyone gets media at the same time. People in the UK usually have to wait upwards of six months to see/read a TV episode or comic issue that just appeared last week in America, and the poor Australians have to wait even longer. Thus, what to you is the most recent is, to about half of all readers, either old hat or something that won't happen until next year.

It only creates more trouble for other {{troper}}s when they have to remove mentions of the word "recent" after it isn't recent anymore. Or worse, the next troper will add an indented bullet point adding an even more recent update for the situation. So for everyone's sake, please avoid using the word "recent" or anything synonymous in writing your examples. Although TVTropes is open for anyone to edit, it should not be ''required'' for anyone to come behind another troper and fix their entry.

If it helps, try and pretend that every work, ever, was written all on the same date at some point in the vague past. Don't actually put this in your edits, of course, but use it to help you refrain from slipping in a "recent" without noticing. When talking about yet-to-be-released works or installments of series, it's better to just wait until things have actually made it to the page or screen before adding them in, rather than adding rumors or tentative information that might be contradicted by the time the work is released.

A related phenomenon can occur when linking to websites with constantly changing content, such as webcomics, news sites or blogs. Make sure the URL actually points to the specific item you're referring to, not to the site's main page.[[note]]Some sites have annoying auto-redirection that makes the "next page" link point to the front page when on the currently second-to-last page. This can make digging up the ''actual'' URL a bit tricky.[[/note]]

No Examples, please. Especially no "[[SelfDemonstratingArticle recent]]" ones.
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25th Nov '12 5:17:36 AM IronLion
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-> ''"TVTropes is immortal. TV Tropes does not know time. Terms such as 'recently' are meaningless to TV Tropes."''
-->-- '''Tropers/{{SonicLover}}, from the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=fncrrc8snyz07w75c02vzish YKTTW of this page]]'''

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-> ''"TVTropes TVTropes is immortal. TV Tropes does not know time. Terms such as 'recently' are meaningless to TV Tropes."''
-->-- '''Tropers/{{SonicLover}}, from the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=fncrrc8snyz07w75c02vzish YKTTW of this page]]'''
Tropes.
6th Nov '12 11:57:56 AM Lightflame
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A form of FanMyopia, this practice assumes that everyone who reads this will automatically be aware of how long ago "recently" was. There are still some examples which describe films, episodes, issues, or volumes from ''two or more years ago as "recent"'', but if you're not a fan of said work, how will you know whether it's true or not? For all the uninitiated person would know, CaptainAmerica "recently" died or ''BurnNotice'' is still the "hottest new show on USANetwork".[[hottip:*:FYI, the death of Captain America and the debut of ''Burn Notice'' both occurred in 2007.]]

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A form of FanMyopia, this practice assumes that everyone who reads this will automatically be aware of how long ago "recently" was. There are still some examples which describe films, episodes, issues, or volumes from ''two or more years ago as "recent"'', but if you're not a fan of said work, how will you know whether it's true or not? For all the uninitiated person would know, CaptainAmerica "recently" died or ''BurnNotice'' is still the "hottest new show on USANetwork".[[hottip:*:FYI, [[note]]FYI, the death of Captain America and the debut of ''Burn Notice'' both occurred in 2007.]]
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A related phenomenon can occur when linking to websites with constantly changing content, such as webcomics, news sites or blogs. Make sure the URL actually points to the specific item you're referring to, not to the site's main page.[[hottip:*:Some sites have annoying auto-redirection that makes the "next page" link point to the front page when on the currently second-to-last page. This can make digging up the ''actual'' URL a bit tricky.]]

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A related phenomenon can occur when linking to websites with constantly changing content, such as webcomics, news sites or blogs. Make sure the URL actually points to the specific item you're referring to, not to the site's main page.[[hottip:*:Some [[note]]Some sites have annoying auto-redirection that makes the "next page" link point to the front page when on the currently second-to-last page. This can make digging up the ''actual'' URL a bit tricky.]]
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1st Oct '12 2:06:26 AM Candi
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As a for instance:

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As a for instance:
26th Jul '12 7:42:53 AM ShadowHog
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-->-- '''Tropers/SonicLover, from the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=fncrrc8snyz07w75c02vzish YKTTW of this page]]'''

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-->-- '''Tropers/SonicLover, '''Tropers/{{SonicLover}}, from the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=fncrrc8snyz07w75c02vzish YKTTW of this page]]'''
24th Jul '12 3:57:17 PM Kayube
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If it helps, try and pretend that every work, ever, was written all on the same date at some point in the vague past. Don't actually put this in your edits, of course, but use it to help you refrain from slipping in a "recent" without noticing.

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If it helps, try and pretend that every work, ever, was written all on the same date at some point in the vague past. Don't actually put this in your edits, of course, but use it to help you refrain from slipping in a "recent" without noticing.
noticing. When talking about yet-to-be-released works or installments of series, it's better to just wait until things have actually made it to the page or screen before adding them in, rather than adding rumors or tentative information that might be contradicted by the time the work is released.
4th Jul '12 11:14:36 AM VVK
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* "In the latest issue of {{Superman}}..."

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* "In the latest issue of {{Superman}}...''{{Superman}}''..."
3rd Jul '12 8:18:08 AM VampireBuddha
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It also assumes everyone gets media at the same time. People in the UK usually have to wait upwards of six months to see/read a TV episode or comic issue that just appeared last week in America, and the poor Australians have to wait even longer. Thus, what to you is the most recent is, to about half of all readers, either old hat or something that won't happen until next year.
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