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11th Sep '17 12:34:33 AM MockFerret
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* In ''Literature/SilasMarner'', the title character succumbs to this trope after being framed for robbery by his best friend and driven out by his church community, leading him to become a bitter reclusive miser. [[spoiler: He gets better.]]
27th Aug '17 9:28:47 PM CharlesPhipps
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* The [[SpaceJew Space Mormons]] of planet Grayson in the Literature/HonorHarrington series have the philosophy life is a test. In other words, it is ''supposed'' to be hard, miserable, and full of pointlessness. That's the only way you can become hardened and a good person. Notably, this philosophy was influenced by the fact they live on a DeathWorld.

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* The [[SpaceJew [[SpaceJews Space Mormons]] of planet Grayson in the Literature/HonorHarrington series have the philosophy life is a test. In other words, it is ''supposed'' to be hard, miserable, and full of pointlessness. That's the only way you can become hardened and a good person. Notably, this philosophy was influenced by the fact they live on a DeathWorld.
27th Aug '17 9:28:36 PM CharlesPhipps
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* The [[SpaceJew Space Mormons]] of planet Grayson in the Literature/HonorHarrington series have the philosophy life is a test. In other words, it is ''supposed'' to be hard, miserable, and full of pointlessness. That's the only way you can become hardened and a good person. Notably, this philosophy was influenced by the fact they live on a DeathWorld.
27th Aug '17 9:21:21 PM CharlesPhipps
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To counter this idea, the faithful may choose to believe that God works InMysteriousWays, so He may [[HelpingWouldBeKillStealing allow bad things for a higher purpose]]. One common argument is that evil results from [[SlidingScaleOfFreeWillVsDestiny God allowing people]] [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill to have their own free will]]. Alternately, perhaps GodIsFlawed.

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To counter this idea, the faithful may choose to believe that God works InMysteriousWays, so He may [[HelpingWouldBeKillStealing allow bad things for a higher purpose]]. One common argument is that evil results from [[SlidingScaleOfFreeWillVsDestiny God allowing people]] [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill to have their own free will]]. There is also evil existing as a test. Alternately, perhaps GodIsFlawed.
23rd Jul '17 4:57:32 PM Dravencour
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Compare FaithHeelTurn, which is when this trope leads to the character actually ''becoming'' evil.

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Compare FaithHeelTurn, which is when this trope leads to the character actually ''becoming'' evil.
evil. See also BreakTheBeliever, in which someone's core beliefs are proven wrong.
12th Jul '17 4:56:17 PM jamespolk
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* ''Film/SixShooter'': "I don't believe in God. Not no more." So says Donnelly, who has just left the hospital after his wife has died of cancer.
1st Jul '17 9:08:42 AM nombretomado
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* A character or person facing this problem is confronting [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil The Problem of Evil]], as discussed on TheOtherWiki. Proposing a solution to the problem of evil is called a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodicy Theodicy.]]

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* A character or person facing this problem is confronting [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil The Problem of Evil]], as discussed on TheOtherWiki.Wiki/TheOtherWiki. Proposing a solution to the problem of evil is called a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodicy Theodicy.]]
12th Apr '17 10:39:31 PM Prometheus117
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* ''ComicBook/{{Persepolis}}'': After her beloved Uncle Anoosh is executed by the fundamentalist regime as a communist dissident, Marjane tells God that she hates him and doesn't want to see him anymore.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Persepolis}}'': After her beloved Uncle Anoosh is executed by the fundamentalist regime as a communist dissident, Marjane tells God that she hates him and doesn't want to see him anymore. [[spoiler:He still pops up from time to time, however]].
3rd Mar '17 1:12:27 PM Paireon
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** ''ComicBook/JustAPilgrim'': the titular pilgrim, an ex-Special Forces type who found the Lord in prison, survived the end of the world when the sun moved closer, drying up the oceans, and found the last remnants of humanity hiding in the Marianas Trench. Throughout the entire book his faith in God wouldn't be out of place in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', but he finally snaps when a mutant race of jellyfish takes over a little girl. His last act before his heroicSacrifice is to toss out the Bible he wanted the surivors to take.

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** ''ComicBook/JustAPilgrim'': the titular pilgrim, an ex-Special Forces type who found the Lord in prison, survived the end of the world when the sun moved closer, drying up the oceans, and found the last remnants of humanity hiding in the Marianas Trench. Throughout the entire book his faith in God wouldn't be out of place in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', but he finally snaps when a mutant race of jellyfish takes over a little girl. His last act before his heroicSacrifice HeroicSacrifice is to toss out the Bible he wanted the surivors to take.
5th Feb '17 12:51:48 PM StFan
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* One of the story beats in WarrenEllis's run on ''ComicBook/{{Stormwatch}},'' which carried over into ''ComicBook/TheAuthority'' a few years later, was that God does not exist. The Doctor mentions it offhandedly in Ellis's final arc, and earlier, a "villain" called the Eidolon had come back from beyond the grave to try to convince people to make the most of their lives.

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* One of the story beats in WarrenEllis's Creator/WarrenEllis's run on ''ComicBook/{{Stormwatch}},'' which carried over into ''ComicBook/TheAuthority'' a few years later, was that God does not exist. The Doctor mentions it offhandedly in Ellis's final arc, and earlier, a "villain" called the Eidolon had come back from beyond the grave to try to convince people to make the most of their lives.






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-->'''Angry Middle-Class Mum''': May god forgive you.
-->'''Mr Chuckles''': God? Oh right, there now, there's the fella. I mean what's he doin', eh? He can take Music/JohnLennon, he can take those three young lads down at Ainsley Pit, he's even thinkin' of taking my old man, and ''[[MargaretThatcher Margaret bloody Thatcher lives?]]'' I mean, ''what's he soddin' playin' at'', eh? ... You've been great. My name's Coco the Scab.

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-->'''Angry Middle-Class Mum''': Mum:''' May god forgive you.
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God? Oh right, there now, there's the fella. I mean what's he doin', eh? He can take Music/JohnLennon, he can take those three young lads down at Ainsley Pit, he's even thinkin' of taking my old man, and ''[[MargaretThatcher ''[[UsefulNotes/MargaretThatcher Margaret bloody Thatcher lives?]]'' I mean, ''what's he soddin' playin' at'', eh? ... You've been great. My name's Coco the Scab.



-->"It's a lie! It's a fucking lie! There's no God. God is as dead as my legs! There's no God, there's no country! Nothing. Just me and this fucking wheelchair for the rest of my life."

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-->"It's -->'''Ron Kovic:''' It's a lie! It's a fucking lie! There's no God. God is as dead as my legs! There's no God, there's no country! Nothing. Just me and this fucking wheelchair for the rest of my life."






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* In TheScrewtapeLetters, Screwtape's nephew, the lesser devil Wormwood, must have proposed trying this tactic to wrench humans away from God with the looming horrors of the Second World War, but Screwtape counters that while the horrors may affect some humans so, others wind up coming through the trial with renewed faith and many more are made to confront death - which forces them to confront those questions, thus enabling them to perceive and accept God's grace.

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* In TheScrewtapeLetters, ''Literature/TheScrewtapeLetters'', Screwtape's nephew, the lesser devil Wormwood, must have proposed trying this tactic to wrench humans away from God with the looming horrors of the Second World War, but Screwtape counters that while the horrors may affect some humans so, others wind up coming through the trial with renewed faith and many more are made to confront death - which forces them to confront those questions, thus enabling them to perceive and accept God's grace.






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* ''Website/{{Cracked}}'' loves this trope. Especially in lists of Top X Things That Are Somehow Unpleasant To Even Read About, often with the caption of "Where is your god now?"
* [[http://www.theonion.com/articles/eons-of-darwinian-evolution-somehow-produce-mitch,17635/ One article]] in ''Website/TheOnion'' had a StrawLoser whose very existence was an affront to both the theory of evolution (what evolutionary purpose can this guy possibly serve?!) ''and'' the existence of a kind and loving god (if we're made in God's image, well...), with each side parading him around as the ultimate argument against the other.
* ''WebVideo/TheMusicVideoShow'' does this in episode 39. "Music/{{Michael Jackson}}. Dead. [[Creator/RobinWilliams Robin Williams.]] Dead. Scott Stapp. Still alive. There. Is. No. God!"
* A character or person facing this problem is confronting [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil The Problem of Evil]], as discussed on TheOtherWiki. Proposing a solution to the problem of evil is called a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodicy Theodicy.
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* The podcast ''God Awful Movies'' reviews bad religious movies, almost always Christian. They've started to joke about how apparently every atheist's mother has cancer, since this is used to invoke the trope in so many of these movies.
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* In ''WesternAnimation/{{The Simpsons}}'' episode "Last Exit to Springfield," when the school photographer gets Lisa to smile for her school photo and sees the horrible 19th century style braces she's wearing (because there's no dental plan at the Power Plant where Homer works) he {{gasp}}s out "There is no god!"

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* In ''WesternAnimation/{{The Simpsons}}'' ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "Last Exit to Springfield," when the school photographer gets Lisa to smile for her school photo and sees the horrible 19th century style braces she's wearing (because there's no dental plan at the Power Plant where Homer works) he {{gasp}}s out "There is no god!"



---> '''Kyle (looking up, smiling):''' [[ThereIsAGod You]] ''[[ThereIsAGod are]]'' [[ThereIsAGod up there!]]

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---> '''Kyle --->'''Kyle (looking up, smiling):''' [[ThereIsAGod You]] ''[[ThereIsAGod are]]'' [[ThereIsAGod up there!]]







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* ''Website/{{Cracked}}'' loves this trope. Especially in lists of Top X Things That Are Somehow Unpleasant To Even Read About, often with the caption of "Where is your god now?"
* [[http://www.theonion.com/articles/eons-of-darwinian-evolution-somehow-produce-mitch,17635/ One article]] in ''Website/TheOnion'' had a StrawLoser whose very existence was an affront to both the theory of evolution (what evolutionary purpose can this guy possibly serve?!) ''and'' the existence of a kind and loving god (if we're made in God's image, well...), with each side parading him around as the ultimate argument against the other.
* [[WebVideo/TheMusicVideoShow The Music Video Show]] does this in episode 39.
** "Music/{{Michael Jackson}}. Dead. [[Creator/RobinWilliams Robin Williams.]] Dead. Scott Stapp. Still alive. There. Is. No. God!"
* A character or person facing this problem is confronting [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil The Problem of Evil]], as discussed on TheOtherWiki. Proposing a solution to the problem of evil is called a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodicy Theodicy.]]
* The podcast God Awful Movies reviews bad religious movies, almost always Christian. They've started to joke about how apparently every atheist's mother has cancer, since this is used to invoke the trope in so many of these movies.

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