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11th Jun '16 3:48:50 PM nombretomado
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* The ''SwordOfTruth'' infamously has evil pacifists, although they are closer to a [[StrawmanPolitical different trope]].

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* The ''SwordOfTruth'' ''Literature/SwordOfTruth'' infamously has evil pacifists, although they are closer to a [[StrawmanPolitical different trope]].
29th May '16 10:23:14 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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Bad guys aren't usually pacifists, [[TechnicalPacifist technical]] or [[ActualPacifist otherwise]]. Even if their goals don't necessarily require force (such as embezzlement or fraud), then there's still a good chance they either resort to violence or indicate that violence is a desirable option for them ("You cross me, you're finished.") in the course of the story. Being any sort of pacifist is a sign the villain is an AntiVillain, HarmlessVillain, or at least AffablyEvil.

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Bad guys aren't usually pacifists, [[TechnicalPacifist technical]] or [[ActualPacifist otherwise]]. Even if their goals don't necessarily require force (such as embezzlement or fraud), then there's still a good chance they either resort to violence or indicate that violence is a desirable option for them ("You cross me, you're finished.") in the course of the story. Being any sort of pacifist is generally a sign the villain is an AntiVillain, HarmlessVillain, or at least AffablyEvil.



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8th Nov '15 7:53:36 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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->[[TheDragon Ellen]], with this I am certain. A peace-loving idiot is much scarier than anyone with dementia. [[WarIsHell Let's]] [[WarForFunAndProfit check]] [[MurderIsTheBestSolution it]] [[ColdBloodedTorture our]] [[ChaosIsEvil way]].

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->[[TheDragon Ellen]], ->Ellen, with this I am certain. A peace-loving idiot is much scarier than anyone with dementia. [[WarIsHell Let's]] [[WarForFunAndProfit check]] [[MurderIsTheBestSolution it]] [[ColdBloodedTorture our]] [[ChaosIsEvil way]].Let's check it our way.
8th Nov '15 7:51:47 PM nombretomado
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* Akio Ohtori from ''RevolutionaryGirlUtena'' avoids violence to the last moment, preferring to talk his victims down. He only grabs a sword personally when the heroine leaves him absolutely no choice, and even then he leaves the ''coup de grace'' [[spoiler:to his sister.]]

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* Akio Ohtori from ''RevolutionaryGirlUtena'' ''Anime/RevolutionaryGirlUtena'' avoids violence to the last moment, preferring to talk his victims down. He only grabs a sword personally when the heroine leaves him absolutely no choice, and even then he leaves the ''coup de grace'' [[spoiler:to his sister.]]
1st Aug '15 10:44:29 PM phoenix
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* In WhereOnEarthIsCarmenSandiego Carmen would rather get caught than kill or severely injure anyone while committing her thefts.

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* In WhereOnEarthIsCarmenSandiego ''WesternAnimation/WhereOnEarthIsCarmenSandiego'', Carmen would rather get caught than kill or severely injure anyone while committing her thefts.
6th May '15 9:19:45 AM StFan
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* Subverted in the LeftBehind novels, at least initially; [[VillainWithGoodPublicity Nicolae]] [[DesignatedVillain Capathia]] starts his political career as an outspoken pacifist pushing for global disarmament.

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* Subverted in the LeftBehind ''Literature/LeftBehind'' novels, at least initially; [[VillainWithGoodPublicity Nicolae]] [[DesignatedVillain Capathia]] starts his political career as an outspoken pacifist pushing for global disarmament.



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* In [[Film/SpiderMan Spider-Man 3]], Sandman tries to talk Spider-Man out of battling him.
* Grí­ma Wormtongue in ''[[Film/TheLordOfTheRings The Two Towers]]'' is notably in favour of peace ... or at least of Rohan refraining from military action. However, this is [[TheMole just an act]] to allow his true master, Saruman, to pillage Rohan's countryside and slaughter its people with impunity.
* In the ValLewton film ''The Seventh Victim'' the antagonists are pacifist [[spoiler: Satanists]] who refuse to kill, and instead find ways to drive the titular character to kill herself.

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* In [[Film/SpiderMan Spider-Man 3]], ''Film/SpiderMan3'', Sandman tries to talk Spider-Man out of battling him.
* Grí­ma Wormtongue in ''[[Film/TheLordOfTheRings The Two Towers]]'' is notably in favour of peace ...peace... or at least of Rohan refraining from military action. However, this is [[TheMole just an act]] to allow his true master, Saruman, to pillage Rohan's countryside and slaughter its people with impunity.
* In the ValLewton Creator/ValLewton film ''The Seventh Victim'' the antagonists are pacifist [[spoiler: Satanists]] who refuse to kill, and instead find ways to drive the titular title character to kill herself.
5th May '15 8:08:54 AM PrimeSoundwave
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->'''Sir Isaac Ray Peram Westcott:''' [[TheDragon Ellen]], with this I am certain. A peace-loving idiot is much scarier than anyone with dementia. [[WarIsHell Let's]] [[WarForFunAndProfit check]] [[MurderIsTheBestSolution it]] [[ColdBloodedTorture our]] [[ChaosIsEvil way]].
-->-- ''LightNovel/DateALive''

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->'''Sir Isaac Ray Peram Westcott:''' [[TheDragon ->[[TheDragon Ellen]], with this I am certain. A peace-loving idiot is much scarier than anyone with dementia. [[WarIsHell Let's]] [[WarForFunAndProfit check]] [[MurderIsTheBestSolution it]] [[ColdBloodedTorture our]] [[ChaosIsEvil way]].
-->-- '''Sir Isaac Ray Peram Westcott''', ''LightNovel/DateALive''
5th May '15 7:18:22 AM PrimeSoundwave
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->'''Sir Isaac Ray Peram Westcott:''' [[TheDragon Ellen]], with this I am certain. A peace-loving idiot is much scarier than anyone with dementia. [[WarIsHell Let's]] [[WarForFunAndProfit check]] [[MurderIsTheBestSolution it]] [[ColdBloodedTorture our]] [[ChaosIsEvil way]].
-->-- ''LightNovel/DateALive''



23rd Mar '15 4:18:14 AM Jinren
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** He also fought the Comedian, but was beaten.
16th Feb '15 7:50:49 AM erforce
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* Lord Yuna, of ''BreathOfFireIV'' who is also an example of TheUnfought, declares himself to be "a scholar and a pacifist," and refuses to fight your characters, although he has no qualms about having people tortured or [[PlayingWithSyringes turned into supernatural monstrosities]].

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* Lord Yuna, of ''BreathOfFireIV'' ''VideoGame/BreathOfFireIV'' who is also an example of TheUnfought, declares himself to be "a scholar and a pacifist," and refuses to fight your characters, although he has no qualms about having people tortured or [[PlayingWithSyringes turned into supernatural monstrosities]].
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