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26th Nov '17 2:35:35 PM RobTan
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** The original concept for the Cybermen made them [[EvilCounterpart Evil Counterparts]] to humans. Their home planet Mondas was literally [[CounterEarth Earth's twin planet]], and their gradual slide into becoming cyborg monsters was as a result of the most human instinct possible: survival at any cost. This aspect faded quickly, but the Revival brought it back to the fore, with the Cybermen essentially being positioned as humanity's collective ArchEnemy, and almost every story emphasising them as a result of people giving in to fear of death or their worst impulses.

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** The original concept for the Cybermen made them [[EvilCounterpart Evil Counterparts]] to humans. Their home planet Mondas was literally [[CounterEarth Earth's twin planet]], and their gradual slide into becoming cyborg monsters was as a result of the most human instinct possible: survival at any cost. This aspect of them faded quickly, over time, but the Revival brought it back to the fore, with the Cybermen essentially being positioned as humanity's collective ArchEnemy, and almost every story emphasising depicting them as a result of people giving in to desperation or fear of death or their worst impulses.death.
26th Nov '17 2:32:28 PM RobTan
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** The original concept for the Cybermen made them [[EvilCounterpart Evil Counterparts]] to humans. Their home planet Mondas was literally [[CounterEarth Earth's twin planet]], and their gradual slide into becoming cyborg monsters was as a result of the most human instinct possible: survival at any cost. This aspect faded quickly, but the Revival brought it back to the fore, with the Cybermen essentially being positioned as humanity's collective ArchEnemy, and almost every story emphasising them as a result of people giving in to desperation or their worst impulses.

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** The original concept for the Cybermen made them [[EvilCounterpart Evil Counterparts]] to humans. Their home planet Mondas was literally [[CounterEarth Earth's twin planet]], and their gradual slide into becoming cyborg monsters was as a result of the most human instinct possible: survival at any cost. This aspect faded quickly, but the Revival brought it back to the fore, with the Cybermen essentially being positioned as humanity's collective ArchEnemy, and almost every story emphasising them as a result of people giving in to desperation fear of death or their worst impulses.
26th Nov '17 2:29:52 PM RobTan
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** The original concept for the Cybermen made them [[EvilCounterpart Evil Counterparts]] to humans. Their home planet Mondas was literally [[CounterEarth Earth's twin planet]], and their gradual slide into becoming cyborg monsters was as a result of the most human instinct possible: survival at any cost. This aspect faded quickly, but the Revival brought it back to the fore, with the Cybermen essentially being positioned as humanity's collective ArchEnemy, and almost every story emphasising their {{Transhuman}} elements.

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** The original concept for the Cybermen made them [[EvilCounterpart Evil Counterparts]] to humans. Their home planet Mondas was literally [[CounterEarth Earth's twin planet]], and their gradual slide into becoming cyborg monsters was as a result of the most human instinct possible: survival at any cost. This aspect faded quickly, but the Revival brought it back to the fore, with the Cybermen essentially being positioned as humanity's collective ArchEnemy, and almost every story emphasising them as a result of people giving in to desperation or their {{Transhuman}} elements.worst impulses.
26th Nov '17 8:29:01 AM RobTan
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** The Daleks were initially positioned as this to the Thals, however, "Recap/DoctorWhoS12E4GenesisOfTheDaleks" subverted this and made it clear that during the War, they were just as bad as each other.
** Similarly, the Revival initially upgraded the Daleks into this for the Time Lords, their equals in power and enemies during the Time War, but "Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E17E18TheEndOfTime" demonstrated that the Time Lords had gladly [[EvilVersusEvil sunk to their level]].

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** The Daleks were initially positioned as this to the Thals, however, "Recap/DoctorWhoS12E4GenesisOfTheDaleks" [[Recap/DoctorWhoS12E4GenesisOfTheDaleks "Genesis of the Daleks"]] subverted this and made it clear that during the War, they were just as bad as each other.
** Similarly, the Revival initially upgraded the Daleks into this for the Time Lords, their equals in power and enemies during the Time War, but "Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E17E18TheEndOfTime" [[Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E17E18TheEndOfTime "The End of Time"]] demonstrated that the Time Lords had gladly [[EvilVersusEvil sunk to their level]].
26th Nov '17 8:16:41 AM RobTan
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* ''Series/DoctorWho'':
** The original concept for the Cybermen made them [[EvilCounterpart Evil Counterparts]] to humans. Their home planet Mondas was literally [[CounterEarth Earth's twin planet]], and their gradual slide into becoming cyborg monsters was as a result of the most human instinct possible: survival at any cost. This aspect faded quickly, but the Revival brought it back to the fore, with the Cybermen essentially being positioned as humanity's collective ArchEnemy, and almost every story emphasising their {{Transhuman}} elements.
** The Daleks were initially positioned as this to the Thals, however, "Recap/DoctorWhoS12E4GenesisOfTheDaleks" subverted this and made it clear that during the War, they were just as bad as each other.
** Similarly, the Revival initially upgraded the Daleks into this for the Time Lords, their equals in power and enemies during the Time War, but "Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E17E18TheEndOfTime" demonstrated that the Time Lords had gladly [[EvilVersusEvil sunk to their level]].
19th Sep '17 11:40:54 AM Abodos
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** ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask'' has the Nejirons, {{Rock Monster}}s that are basically meaner-looking Gorons that try to roll into you and blow up. Their [[MeaningfulName name]] is even the Japanese word "Neji" meaning "twisted" combined with "-ron."
10th Jul '17 11:24:52 PM Abodos
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** In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkBetweenWorlds'', the Maiamai are an inversion, being a good counterpart to the Octoroks. Both resemble land-based cephalopods with tube-like mouths, but while Octoroks suck in and spit out objects to hurt Link, Mother Maiamai sucks in and spits out objects to upgrade them for Link.
23rd May '17 3:02:26 PM Vir
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** And, of course, the innumerable examples of cases where the evil counterpart's name is the good version's name plus the word 'black' (and coloring alterations to match), such as [=BlackAgumon=], [=BlackTailmon=], [=BlackToyAgumon=], [=BlackWarGreymon=], etc. Justified in that they are intended according to the fluff to literally have originally been of the resepective good race, but were transformed by computer viruses.

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** And, of course, the innumerable examples of cases where the evil counterpart's name is the good version's name plus the word 'black' (and coloring alterations to match), such as [=BlackAgumon=], [=BlackTailmon=], [=BlackToyAgumon=], [=BlackWarGreymon=], etc. Justified in that they are intended according to the fluff to literally have originally been of the resepective respective good race, but were transformed by computer viruses.
15th May '17 1:41:05 PM Abodos
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* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'', the [[LizardFolk Lizalfos]] have been redesigned into one for the [[FishPeople Zoras]]. Both are gangly swimmers who prefer spears to other weapons and like eating fish. Water-based Lizalfos will even spit bursts of water at Link in a manner similar to the previously evil Zoras from the 2D games.

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* ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'':
** ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime'' has the Kokiri and the Deku Scrubs. Both are forest-based races with connections to the [[WiseTree Great Deku Tree]], but while the former are more human-like children who generally get along well with the few non-Kokiri with whom they interact, the latter are more plant-like monsters who spit seeds at anyone who approaches them.
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In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'', the [[LizardFolk Lizalfos]] have been redesigned into one for the [[FishPeople Zoras]]. Both are gangly swimmers who prefer spears to other weapons and like eating fish. Water-based Lizalfos will even spit bursts of water at Link in a manner similar to the previously evil Zoras from the 2D games.
15th May '17 1:34:22 PM Abodos
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* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'', the [[LizardFolk Lizalfos]] have been redesigned into one for the [[FishPeople Zoras]]. Both are gangly swimmers who prefer spears to other weapons and like eating fish. Water-based Lizalfos will even spit bursts of water at Link in a manner similar to the previously evil Zoras from the 2D games.

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* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'', the [[LizardFolk Lizalfos]] have been redesigned into one for the [[FishPeople Zoras]]. Both are gangly swimmers who prefer spears to other weapons and like eating fish. fish. Water-based Lizalfos will even spit bursts of water at Link in a manner similar to the previously evil Zoras from the 2D games.
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