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29th Jul '16 1:16:45 PM MikeW
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** The first season finale has the team going after Blackthorne, the CEO of the insurance company who refused to help Nate treat his dying son to a possible cure because it wasn't "cost-effective." It's one thing for Blackthorne to be amazed Nate is going to such lengths to go after him. It's another that he appears honestly shocked that Nate's ex-wife Maggie (the boy's ''mother'') can't accept this was just a business decision. He really goes to her to ask for help only for her to punch him in the face and Blackthorne acts like ''he's'' the one betrayed.
29th Jul '16 1:14:03 PM MikeW
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** In one episode, hacker/killer Pelant gives Hodgins a seemingly SadisticChoice: Shut down a computer server that is draining Hogdins' millions of dollars or keep it running to stop a drone that would blow up a school in the Middle East. Pelant assumes Hodgins will either shut it down or at least waste time trying to find a way to keep his money. It never occurs to him that [[spoiler: Hodgins has always hated being rich and thus has no problem sacrificing his money to save innocent lives.]]

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** In one episode, hacker/killer Pelant gives Hodgins a seemingly SadisticChoice: Shut down a computer server that is draining Hogdins' millions of dollars or keep it running to stop a drone that would blow up a school in the Middle East. Pelant assumes Hodgins will either shut it down or at least waste time trying to find a way to keep his money.money and it breaks Hodgins' relationship with the rest of the team to choose money first. It never occurs to him that [[spoiler: Hodgins has always hated being rich and thus has no problem sacrificing his money to save innocent lives.]]
28th Jul '16 10:24:57 AM Willbyr
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* ''[[PhoenixWrightAceAttorney Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney: Justice For All]]'': [[spoiler: Matt Engarde hires professional assassin Shelly de Killer to kill his rival, then uses a hidden camera to film the crime as insurance in case de Killer tries to blackmail him. However, de Killer places great value on the trust between himself and his clients and is outraged at this betrayal. Engarde clearly never considered that [[EvenEvilHasStandards some crooks might have higher standards than him.]]]]

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* ''[[PhoenixWrightAceAttorney ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney: Justice For All]]'': [[spoiler: Matt Engarde hires professional assassin Shelly de Killer to kill his rival, then uses a hidden camera to film the crime as insurance in case de Killer tries to blackmail him. However, de Killer places great value on the trust between himself and his clients and is outraged at this betrayal. Engarde clearly never considered that [[EvenEvilHasStandards some crooks might have higher standards than him.]]]]
25th Jul '16 12:27:00 PM ultimomant
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** Chrysalis assumes the reason why Prince Blueblood refuses to run away from her is because he's stupid and completely lacks the survival instinct. In reality, he genuinely cares about Cadence and Celestia and was trying to help them, and he was also helping the civilians evacuate.
24th Jul '16 10:21:32 AM nombretomado
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* WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic: PlayedForLaughs in his review of ''{{Casper}}'', when the titular ghost is stunned to see Critic praising the movie and resorts to a GroinAttack.

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* WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic: PlayedForLaughs in his review of ''{{Casper}}'', ''Film/{{Casper}}'', when the titular ghost is stunned to see Critic praising the movie and resorts to a GroinAttack.
18th Jul '16 2:06:02 AM Morgenthaler
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[[TheHero Our Hero]] goes and makes the HeroicSacrifice anyway, thereby ruining the villain's plan with a DidntSeeThatComing that a DangerouslyGenreSavvy villain really should have seen coming. This is one of the ways those with HonorBeforeReason can continue to defeat the BigBad. This is a major problem for villains who really believe they are NotSoDifferent and think heroes [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood could have used their powers for Evil]], as opposed to villains who are just [[BreakingSpeech screwing with the Hero's head]].

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[[TheHero Our Hero]] goes and makes the HeroicSacrifice anyway, thereby ruining the villain's plan with a DidntSeeThatComing that a DangerouslyGenreSavvy more cunning villain really should have seen coming. This is one of the ways those with HonorBeforeReason can continue to defeat the BigBad. This is a major problem for villains who really believe they are NotSoDifferent and think heroes [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood could have used their powers for Evil]], as opposed to villains who are just [[BreakingSpeech screwing with the Hero's head]].



* [[AlphaBitch Minerva]] of ''Manga/FairyTail'' is so [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy dangerous]] partially because of how she inverts this. She fully recognizes how some fighters become more dangerous when motivated by ThePowerOfFriendship, and plans to use it to devastating effect with Sting in the Grand Magic Tournament.

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* [[AlphaBitch Minerva]] of ''Manga/FairyTail'' is so [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy dangerous]] dangerous partially because of how she inverts this. She fully recognizes how some fighters become more dangerous when motivated by ThePowerOfFriendship, and plans to use it to devastating effect with Sting in the Grand Magic Tournament.



** Notably averted with Darken Rahl and the Sisters of the Dark. They understand how good people think and plan on it. Mixes with shades of DangerouslyGenreSavvy

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** Notably averted with Darken Rahl and the Sisters of the Dark. They understand how good people think and plan on it. Mixes with shades of DangerouslyGenreSavvy



*** Played with by the Nathrezim, who are DangerouslyGenreSavvy enough to wage warfare at a distance, stoking up conflict between factions to distract them from the real threat, and manipulate useful pawns to enact their will with plausible deniability. This does not stop them from making slip-ups of this variety on occasion. One happens when their leader, Mal'Ganis, assumes [[EvilPrince Evil Prince-in-training]] Arthas won't exact revenge on him for leading the destruction of Arthas' homeland of Lordaeron and forcing him into a SadisticChoice at the town of Stratholme, since Arthas' soul was just consumed by his new weapon, Frostmourne. But having no soul does not prevent Arthas from enacting his revenge upon his opponent. At all.

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*** Played with by the Nathrezim, who are DangerouslyGenreSavvy cunning enough to wage warfare at a distance, stoking up conflict between factions to distract them from the real threat, and manipulate useful pawns to enact their will with plausible deniability. This does not stop them from making slip-ups of this variety on occasion. One happens when their leader, Mal'Ganis, assumes [[EvilPrince Evil Prince-in-training]] Arthas won't exact revenge on him for leading the destruction of Arthas' homeland of Lordaeron and forcing him into a SadisticChoice at the town of Stratholme, since Arthas' soul was just consumed by his new weapon, Frostmourne. But having no soul does not prevent Arthas from enacting his revenge upon his opponent. At all.



** This moment of her inability to comprehend that love can trump self-preservation and loyalty born of intimidation has limits, flying in the face of her philosophy that "fear is the only reliable way" to control people, is actually the first step down the road towards her epic VillainousBreakdown. However, because she's DangerouslyGenreSavvy, she's at least able to learn from this mistake and apply it to her strategy in the GrandFinale (while she was in the middle of said breakdown no less).

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** This moment of her inability to comprehend that love can trump self-preservation and loyalty born of intimidation has limits, flying in the face of her philosophy that "fear is the only reliable way" to control people, is actually the first step down the road towards her epic VillainousBreakdown. However, because she's DangerouslyGenreSavvy, she's at least able to learn from this mistake and apply it to her strategy in the GrandFinale (while she was in the middle of said breakdown no less).



** However, XANA is an interesting case in that unlike many villains, he [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy actually learns from this defeat]]; in later seasons, he actually anticipates both Aelita and Franz Hopper making {{Heroic Sacrifice}}s and take advantage on it to pull out {{Batman Gambit}}s.

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** However, XANA is an interesting case in that unlike many villains, he [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy actually learns from this defeat]]; defeat; in later seasons, he actually anticipates both Aelita and Franz Hopper making {{Heroic Sacrifice}}s and take advantage on it to pull out {{Batman Gambit}}s.
10th Jul '16 3:38:29 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Much earlier, The Master waffles from GenreSavvy to GenreBlind with this trope. In the Pilot, The Master understands a heroic slayer well enough to know she'll risk life and limb to save Jesse, and baits his first trap for her accordingly. Twelve episodes later, the Master never pauses to consider that the Slayer herself has her own friends who will risk life and limb for her... and is blindsided accordingly. In his defense, he though he'd already finished her off.

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** Much earlier, The Master waffles from GenreSavvy to GenreBlind with this trope. In the Pilot, The Master understands a heroic slayer well enough to know she'll risk life and limb to save Jesse, and baits his first trap for her accordingly. Twelve episodes later, the Master never pauses to consider that the Slayer herself has her own friends who will risk life and limb for her... and is blindsided accordingly. In his defense, he though he'd already finished her off.



** The Triad are GenreSavvy enough with this trope to appoint Cole as the one to take out the sisters in the first place. As he's half human, he would be able to blend in better and pass for human long enough to gain their trust. They then veer into GenreBlind in the same way, not anticipating that he might actually fall in love with Phoebe and be prompted to protect her instead.

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** The Triad are GenreSavvy wise enough with this trope to appoint Cole as the one to take out the sisters in the first place. As he's half human, he would be able to blend in better and pass for human long enough to gain their trust. They then veer into GenreBlind in the same way, not anticipating that he might actually fall in love with Phoebe and be prompted to protect her instead.
10th Jul '16 3:32:53 PM firejewel
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** ''Videogame/DisgaeaHourOfDarkness'': Laharl hates love and thinks it's worthless,

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** ''Videogame/DisgaeaHourOfDarkness'': Laharl hates love and thinks it's worthless, [[spoiler: at first]].


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--> '''Mongul''': I wonder where he thinks he is? Sitting on a throne, ruling the universe... All you human garbage fawning at his feet. More honest, don't you think, than this pretense of being a "selfless hero"? (''Diana proceeds to bash Mongul's head in'')
10th Jul '16 2:25:55 PM Nintendoman01
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** Much earlier, The Master waffles from GenreSavvy to GenreBlind with this trope. In the Pilot, The Master understands a heroic slayer well enough to know she'll risk life and limb to save Jessie, and baits his first trap for her accordingly. Twelve episodes later, the Master never pauses to consider that the Slayer herself has her own friends who will risk life and limb for her... and is blindsided accordingly. In his defense, he though he'd already finished her off.

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** Much earlier, The Master waffles from GenreSavvy to GenreBlind with this trope. In the Pilot, The Master understands a heroic slayer well enough to know she'll risk life and limb to save Jessie, Jesse, and baits his first trap for her accordingly. Twelve episodes later, the Master never pauses to consider that the Slayer herself has her own friends who will risk life and limb for her... and is blindsided accordingly. In his defense, he though he'd already finished her off.
8th Jul '16 6:26:12 PM n0321
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--->'''Batman:''' [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech What were you hoping to prove? That, deep down, everyone's as ugly as you? You're ''alone!'']]

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--->'''Batman:''' [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech What were you hoping to prove? That, deep down, everyone's as ugly as you? You're ''alone!'']]You're]] ''[[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech alone!]]''
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