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20th May '16 8:51:25 PM MikeW
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** Like Lex Luthor, Maxwell Lord has a hard time accepting Supergirl is sincere in wanting to help people and not an ulterior motive of some sort. His attempts to prove she's not a true hero involve exposing Kara to Red Kryptonite which ironically turns her into the very menace Max feared.
*** In the season finale, Max is baffled by Kara's refusal to risk the lives of thousands of people to save the entire planet.

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** Like Lex Luthor, Maxwell Lord has a hard time accepting Supergirl is sincere in wanting to help people and not having an ulterior motive of some sort. His attempts to prove she's not a true hero involve exposing Kara to Red Kryptonite which ironically turns her into the very menace Max feared.
*** In the season finale, Max is baffled by Kara's refusal to risk accept the lives "acceptable losses" of thousands of a few thousand people to save the entire planet.



** When he engages his ultimate plan to take over the minds of everyone on Earth, Non makes it clear he truly believes wiping out free will is for the betterment of humanity to "free" it from such distractions as love, humor and drive.
** James Harper is convinced J'onn J'onzz must be playing a "long game" to conquer Earth as it makes no sense for an alien with shapeshifting and telepathic powers to pretend to be a normal human and help another planet.
** Siobhan Smythe assumes that being as successful as Cat Grant means being an AlphaBitch who takes shortcuts and manipulates those around her, constantly dismissing Kara as a rival. Siobhan never quite gets that Cat got where she was through hard work and holding to a code of ethics. She also fails to understand her "rivalry" with Kara is one-sided and the other girl really isn't out to get Siobhan.

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** When he engages his ultimate plan to take over the minds of everyone on Earth, Non makes it clear he truly believes wiping out free will is for the betterment of he's doing humanity to "free" it from a favor by "freeing" them of such distractions as love, humor emotions and drive.individuality so they can focus on the problems of Earth. Kara, Cat and even Max all argue that saving the planet means nothing if the people aren't free to enjoy it but Non doesn't grasp what he's doing is wrong.
** James Harper is convinced J'onn J'onzz must be playing a "long game" to conquer Earth as it makes there's no sense other reason for an alien with shapeshifting and telepathic powers to pretend to be a normal human and help another planet.
** Siobhan Smythe assumes that being as successful as Cat Grant means being an AlphaBitch who takes shortcuts and manipulates those around her, constantly dismissing Kara as a rival.her. Siobhan never quite gets that Cat got where she was through hard work and holding to a code of ethics. She also fails to understand her "rivalry" with Kara is one-sided and the other girl really isn't out to get Siobhan.
20th May '16 10:30:05 AM MikeW
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* Several examples from ''Series/{{Supergirl}}''
** Like Lex Luthor, Maxwell Lord has a hard time accepting Supergirl is sincere in wanting to help people and not an ulterior motive of some sort. His attempts to prove she's not a true hero involve exposing Kara to Red Kryptonite which ironically turns her into the very menace Max feared.
*** In the season finale, Max is baffled by Kara's refusal to risk the lives of thousands of people to save the entire planet.
** Astra and Non cannot understand why Kara feels so much closer to the people of this "primitive" planet that she grew up on rather than the race she long considered dead.
** When he engages his ultimate plan to take over the minds of everyone on Earth, Non makes it clear he truly believes wiping out free will is for the betterment of humanity to "free" it from such distractions as love, humor and drive.
** James Harper is convinced J'onn J'onzz must be playing a "long game" to conquer Earth as it makes no sense for an alien with shapeshifting and telepathic powers to pretend to be a normal human and help another planet.
** Siobhan Smythe assumes that being as successful as Cat Grant means being an AlphaBitch who takes shortcuts and manipulates those around her, constantly dismissing Kara as a rival. Siobhan never quite gets that Cat got where she was through hard work and holding to a code of ethics. She also fails to understand her "rivalry" with Kara is one-sided and the other girl really isn't out to get Siobhan.
15th May '16 11:51:49 PM HeroicJay
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* ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'': Sirleck cannot understand why [[OurElvesAreBetter Raven]] would [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=2190 do charity work for military veterans.]]
--> '''Sirleck:''' What's the point of living for centuries if you're going to let your heart bleed?
13th May '16 4:03:13 PM HeroGal2347
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Supertrope of BewareTheHonestOnes. Contrast GoodIsOldFashioned, SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids, and GoodCannotComprehendEvil. Compare BlueAndOrangeMorality. Often involves PsychologicalProjection. When someone evil ''is'' capable of understanding or admiring good, it may lead to SympathyForTheHero. If this trope is at work because the villain thinks ''he'' is the good guy and is baffled at the heroes wanting to stop him, it's because he's ObliviouslyEvil. CuriousQualmsOfConscience could be similar to a milder form - characters who doesn't understand the good and the conscience within themselves.

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Supertrope of BewareTheHonestOnes.BewareTheHonestOnes and subtrope of WrongAssumption. Contrast GoodIsOldFashioned, SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids, and GoodCannotComprehendEvil. Compare BlueAndOrangeMorality. Often involves PsychologicalProjection. When someone evil ''is'' capable of understanding or admiring good, it may lead to SympathyForTheHero. If this trope is at work because the villain thinks ''he'' is the good guy and is baffled at the heroes wanting to stop him, it's because he's ObliviouslyEvil. CuriousQualmsOfConscience could be similar to a milder form - characters who doesn't understand the good and the conscience within themselves.
9th May '16 9:12:19 PM DenisK21
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**As Sasuke falls deeper into darkness, he admits a couple times that he has no clue why his old teammates are still going to such lengths to get him back on their side. Whether it's out of his obsession-born apathy or a low opinion of himself depends on which point in the story we're talking about.
6th May '16 11:58:38 PM FlakyPorcupine
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* AM, the evil A.I. of ''Literature/IHaveNoMouthAndIMustScream'' is programmed unable to feel or create, but it does have creative thoughts of destruction and torture. Which it does, because it can't see humans as anything more than playthings who are utter bastards that deserve the punishments it gives them. This is expanded upon in the video game adaption, see below.
5th May '16 3:00:26 PM ultimomant
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* RedSkull doesn't get what motivates the good, obviously. But even [[EvenEvilHasStandards other bad guys have surprised him with their own ethics]]. ''TheJoker'' himself stunned RedSkull by refusing to work with a Nazi like him.

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* RedSkull Comicbook/RedSkull doesn't get what motivates the good, obviously. But even [[EvenEvilHasStandards other bad guys have surprised him with their own ethics]]. ''TheJoker'' ''SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker'' himself stunned RedSkull by refusing to work with a Nazi like him. him.
* The Queen of Fables [[ThoroughlyMistakenIdentity thinks]] Franchise/WonderWoman is Literature/SnowWhite and Superman is PrinceCharming. She eventually discovers Superman's secret identity, and is unable to comprehend why "Prince Charming" would marry a "peasant" like Lois Lane instead of royalty like Snow White or herself. She also doesn't understand killing people and causing destruction just to get his attention won't get him to fall in love with her.
1st May '16 3:11:57 PM LadyJaneGrey
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheRealGhostbusters'' episode "The Devil to Pay", the heroes were conned by a demon named Dib Devlin into competing in [[DeadlyGame a game show with their souls on the line.]] Dib clearly had no faith in human nature, and set up the final round as a DeathTrap that could be escaped if one of them admitted to doing something bad. He was dad ''wrong'', as they ''all'' thought of something bad they had done and confessed to it. (Although it took Ray - the intended one - the longest to admit it, that he [[spoiler:had eaten a cookie that Slimer had gotten slime all over, but he eventually did, grossing out even the demonic studio audience.]])
27th Apr '16 5:11:26 AM k410ren
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* In ''Film/TheMagnificentSeven'', Callvera's last words to Chris were "You came back. Why?" The reason he let them go in the first place was because he thought they were all on the same terms, and thus they would never come back to save a bunch of farmers.

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* In ''Film/TheMagnificentSeven'', Callvera's last words to Chris were "You came back.back... for a place like this... Why? A man like you... Why?" The reason he let them go in the first place was because he thought they were all on the same terms, and thus they would never come back to save a bunch of farmers.
26th Apr '16 8:47:21 PM ultimomant
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* A key reason the Mad Think is constantly defeated is because, despite all his genius and amazing ability to predict things in advance, he still fails to calculate how people will react differently than he expects them to in non-selfish ways. He even lampshades it at times with how things like empathy and self-sacrifice create a "margin of error" in his plans.

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* A key reason the Mad Think Thinker is constantly defeated is because, despite all his genius and amazing ability to predict things in advance, he still fails to calculate how people will react differently than he expects them to in non-selfish ways. He even lampshades it at times with how things like empathy and self-sacrifice create a "margin of error" in his plans.



** [[PsychoPsychologist Hugo Strange]] thinks Batman is TheUbermensch and wants to ''be'' him. Unfortunately, Strange doesnt actually understand Batmans underlying motivation, and misunderstands it as a drive for power. He just ends up projecting his own thirst for power on the identity of Batman and makes himself try to usurp it.

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** [[PsychoPsychologist Hugo Strange]] thinks Batman is TheUbermensch and wants to ''be'' him. Unfortunately, Strange doesnt doesn't actually understand Batmans Batman's underlying motivation, and misunderstands it as a drive for power. He just ends up projecting his own thirst for power on the identity of Batman and makes himself try to usurp it.



** The Riddler isnt as bad as most of Batmans Rogue's Gallery, but his deep-seated need to be recognized as the most intelligent is the only drive he understands. Despite being the villain with the most social competence AND most attempts at reforming, he just cant bring himself to form normal human bonds that arent decided by intellectual dominance.

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** The Riddler isnt isn't as bad as most of Batmans Rogue's Gallery, but his deep-seated need to be recognized as the most intelligent is the only drive he understands. Despite being the villain with the most social competence AND most attempts at reforming, he just cant can't bring himself to form normal human bonds that arent aren't decided by intellectual dominance.
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