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25th Jan '16 1:01:54 PM FF32
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---- [[folder: Roleplay]] * Roleplay/ThisIsWar has Sion, who is a seemingly merciless sadomasochistic war demon who kills for no reason, judge five other demons for ganging up on one person. * NationStates has Roleplay/{{Gregoryisgodistan}}, which in spite of being one of the most evil dictatorships in the Multiverse, despises gender inequality and all who support it. [[/folder]]
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---- [[folder: Roleplay]] * Roleplay/ThisIsWar has Sion, who is a seemingly merciless sadomasochistic war demon who kills for no reason, judge five other demons for ganging up on one person. * NationStates has Roleplay/{{Gregoryisgodistan}}, which in spite of being one of the most evil dictatorships in the Multiverse, despises gender inequality and all who support it. [[/folder]]----
26th Dec '15 3:54:58 PM LondonKdS
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The most common taboos of this type in contemporary Western works involve [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil sexual violence]] or [[WouldntHurtAChild ill-treatment of children]]. Common gangster-story examples are to have the NeighbourhoodFriendlyGangsters, by contrast with the RuthlessForeignGangsters, refuse to [[DrugsAreBad sell illegal drugs]], or be respectful and non-abusive in their treatment of the [[UnproblematicProstitution women who they pimp]]. In older works, or historical fiction with authentic moral attitudes, common examples are breaches of SacredHospitality, treachery against [[MyMasterRightOrWrong one's leader]], or general [[IGaveMyWord breaches of oaths]].
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The most common taboos of this type in contemporary Western works involve [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil sexual violence]] or [[WouldntHurtAChild ill-treatment of children]]. [[PaedoHunt Or both]]. Common gangster-story examples are to have the NeighbourhoodFriendlyGangsters, by contrast with the RuthlessForeignGangsters, refuse to [[DrugsAreBad sell illegal drugs]], or be respectful and non-abusive in their treatment of the [[UnproblematicProstitution women who they pimp]]. In older works, or historical fiction with authentic moral attitudes, common examples are breaches of SacredHospitality, treachery against [[MyMasterRightOrWrong one's leader]], or general [[IGaveMyWord breaches of oaths]].
17th Oct '15 9:50:59 PM Vir
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* Roleplay/ThisIsWar has Sion, who is a seemingly merciless sadomasochistic war demon who kills for no reason judge five other demons for ganging up on one person
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* Roleplay/ThisIsWar has Sion, who is a seemingly merciless sadomasochistic war demon who kills for no reason reason, judge five other demons for ganging up on one personperson.
11th Oct '15 7:24:32 AM CyberTiger88
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It's often to show that a new villain is ''really'' [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil bad]] if even [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Doctor]] [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Annihilation]] shrinks from it. Another way that it's used is to keep a villain safely on the "still sympathetic" side of the MoralEventHorizon; give him something that he simply ''will not do''. It may be specifically invoked to prove that it's OK for our hero to [[EnemyMine work with]] villains who have standards when the need is great enough. This can be strange if handled badly, leading to confusion and unintentionally edge into BlueAndOrangeMorality. Why, after all, should a criminal think shooting a [[NominalImportance particular single orphan]] be worse than killing every single orphan in the ThrowawayCountry, or a serial killer be upset by petty theft, or...?
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It's often to show that a new villain is ''really'' [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil [[SlidingScaleOfAntagonistVileness bad]] if even [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Doctor]] [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Annihilation]] shrinks from it. Another way that it's used is to keep a villain safely on the "still sympathetic" side of the MoralEventHorizon; give him something that he simply ''will not do''. It may be specifically invoked to prove that it's OK for our hero to [[EnemyMine work with]] villains who have standards when the need is great enough. This can be strange if handled badly, leading to confusion and unintentionally edge into BlueAndOrangeMorality. Why, after all, should a criminal think shooting a [[NominalImportance particular single orphan]] be worse than killing every single orphan in the ThrowawayCountry, or a serial killer be upset by petty theft, or...?
29th Sep '15 7:29:46 PM GentlemensDame883
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It's often to show that a new villain is ''really'' [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil bad]] if even [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Doctor]] [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Annihilation]] shrinks from it. Another way that it's used is to keep a villain safely on the "still sympathetic" side of the MoralEventHorizon; give him something that he simply ''will not do''. It may be specifically invoked to prove that it's OK for our hero to [[EnemyMine work with]] villains who have standards when the need is great enough. This can be strange if handled badly, leading to confusion and unintentionally edge into BlueAndOrangeMorality. Why, after all, should a criminal thinks shooting a [[NominalImportance particular single orphan]] be worse than killing every single orphan in the ThrowawayCountry, or a serial killer be upset by petty theft, or...?
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It's often to show that a new villain is ''really'' [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil bad]] if even [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Doctor]] [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Annihilation]] shrinks from it. Another way that it's used is to keep a villain safely on the "still sympathetic" side of the MoralEventHorizon; give him something that he simply ''will not do''. It may be specifically invoked to prove that it's OK for our hero to [[EnemyMine work with]] villains who have standards when the need is great enough. This can be strange if handled badly, leading to confusion and unintentionally edge into BlueAndOrangeMorality. Why, after all, should a criminal thinks think shooting a [[NominalImportance particular single orphan]] be worse than killing every single orphan in the ThrowawayCountry, or a serial killer be upset by petty theft, or...?
2nd Aug '15 3:55:17 PM LondonKdS
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The most common taboos of this type in contemporary Western works involve [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil sexual violence]] or [[WouldntHurtAChild ill-treatment of children]]. Common gangster-story examples are to have the NeighbourhoodFriendlyGangsters, by contrast with the RuthlessForeignGangsters, refuse to [[DrugsAreBad sell illegal drugs]], or be respectful and non-abusive in their treatment of the [[UnproblematicProstitution women who they pimp]]. In older works or historical fiction with realistic moral attitudes, common examples are breaches of SacredHospitality, treachery against [[MyMasterRightOrWrong one's leader]], or general [[IGaveMyWord breaches of oaths]].
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The most common taboos of this type in contemporary Western works involve [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil sexual violence]] or [[WouldntHurtAChild ill-treatment of children]]. Common gangster-story examples are to have the NeighbourhoodFriendlyGangsters, by contrast with the RuthlessForeignGangsters, refuse to [[DrugsAreBad sell illegal drugs]], or be respectful and non-abusive in their treatment of the [[UnproblematicProstitution women who they pimp]]. In older works works, or historical fiction with realistic authentic moral attitudes, common examples are breaches of SacredHospitality, treachery against [[MyMasterRightOrWrong one's leader]], or general [[IGaveMyWord breaches of oaths]].
31st Jul '15 2:35:07 AM LondonKdS
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The most common taboos of this type in contemporary Western works involve [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil sexual violence]] or [[WouldntHurtAChild ill-treatment of children]]. Common gangster-story examples are to have the NeighbourhoodFriendlyGangsters, by contrast with the RuthlessForeignGangsters, refuse to [[DrugsAreBad sell illegal drugs]], or be respectful and non-abusive in their treatment of the [[UnproblematicProstitution women who they pimp]]. In older works or historical fiction with realistic moral attitudes, common examples are breaches of SacredHospitality, or general [[IGaveMyWord breaches of oaths]].
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The most common taboos of this type in contemporary Western works involve [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil sexual violence]] or [[WouldntHurtAChild ill-treatment of children]]. Common gangster-story examples are to have the NeighbourhoodFriendlyGangsters, by contrast with the RuthlessForeignGangsters, refuse to [[DrugsAreBad sell illegal drugs]], or be respectful and non-abusive in their treatment of the [[UnproblematicProstitution women who they pimp]]. In older works or historical fiction with realistic moral attitudes, common examples are breaches of SacredHospitality, treachery against [[MyMasterRightOrWrong one's leader]], or general [[IGaveMyWord breaches of oaths]].
31st Jul '15 2:33:33 AM LondonKdS
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It's often to show that a new villain is ''really'' [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil bad]] if even [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Doctor]] [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Annihilation]] shrinks from it. Another way that it's used is to keep a villain safely on the "still sympathetic" side of the MoralEventHorizon; give him something that he simply ''will not do''. This can be strange if handled badly, leading to confusion and unintentionally edge into BlueAndOrangeMorality. Why, after all, should a criminal thinks shooting a [[NominalImportance particular single orphan]] be worse than killing every single orphan in the ThrowawayCountry, or a serial killer be upset by petty theft, or...? The common uses are a killer or villain who spares a certain target, most often [[ChildrenAreInnocent children]], a villain who [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil refrains from sexually-based offenses]], a villain who helps those who have helped him, or a murderer-rapist who WouldntHurtAChild, or [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial a villain who might murder, extort, run protection rackets, run prostitutes, and so on, but doesn't deal in drugs]]. Therefore, it is fine for our hero to [[EnemyMine work with them]] when the need is great enough.
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It's often to show that a new villain is ''really'' [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil bad]] if even [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Doctor]] [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Annihilation]] shrinks from it. Another way that it's used is to keep a villain safely on the "still sympathetic" side of the MoralEventHorizon; give him something that he simply ''will not do''. It may be specifically invoked to prove that it's OK for our hero to [[EnemyMine work with]] villains who have standards when the need is great enough. This can be strange if handled badly, leading to confusion and unintentionally edge into BlueAndOrangeMorality. Why, after all, should a criminal thinks shooting a [[NominalImportance particular single orphan]] be worse than killing every single orphan in the ThrowawayCountry, or a serial killer be upset by petty theft, or...? The most common uses are a killer or villain who spares a certain target, most often [[ChildrenAreInnocent children]], a villain who taboos of this type in contemporary Western works involve [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil refrains from sexually-based offenses]], a villain who helps those who sexual violence]] or [[WouldntHurtAChild ill-treatment of children]]. Common gangster-story examples are to have helped him, or a murderer-rapist who WouldntHurtAChild, or [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial a villain who might murder, extort, run protection rackets, run prostitutes, and so on, but doesn't deal in drugs]]. Therefore, it is fine for our hero to [[EnemyMine work the NeighbourhoodFriendlyGangsters, by contrast with them]] when the need is great enough. RuthlessForeignGangsters, refuse to [[DrugsAreBad sell illegal drugs]], or be respectful and non-abusive in their treatment of the [[UnproblematicProstitution women who they pimp]]. In older works or historical fiction with realistic moral attitudes, common examples are breaches of SacredHospitality, or general [[IGaveMyWord breaches of oaths]].
23rd Feb '15 10:21:29 AM LadyJafaria
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See also HitmanWithAHeart, where this Trope may apply. (Not all characters who fit the ProfessionalKiller Trope are evil, but many are, and a lot do have scruples.)
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See also HitmanWithAHeart, where this Trope may apply. (Not all characters who fit the ProfessionalKiller Trope are evil, but many are, and a lot do have scruples. They're particularly likely to have the EvenEvilHasStandards variant SelectiveSlaughter.)
31st Jan '15 3:20:34 AM Viira
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IGaveMyWord is another common variant, which may let the heroes agree to CombatByChampion. Some villains may maintain their standards through use of a [[strike:Heroic]] [[HeroicVow Villainous Vow]].
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IGaveMyWord is another common variant, which may let the heroes agree to CombatByChampion. Some villains may maintain their standards through use of a [[strike:Heroic]] [[HeroicVow Villainous Vow]].
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