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15th Dec '17 10:39:05 PM FossilsDaDaDa
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* This is an extremely important character trait of [[spoiler:Flowey]] from ''VideoGame/Undertale'' - despite being incapable of truly feeling love due to his lack of a soul and [[TheSociopath thorough lack of morality]], his mind is still obsessed with [[spoiler:his adopted sibling who committed suicide in a failed ThanatosGambit long before the game started, also killing him in the process (he CameBackWrong). His eventual HeelFaceTurn requires him finally coming to terms with their death and finding peace.]]
** The game also implies that the feeling may have been mutual, although this is [[AmbiguouslyEvil far more debatable]] on both ends. It's left very open to interpretation if the Fallen Child was good, evil, or somewhere in between, and if their affection for their adopted brother (and perhaps their parents as well) was genuine, just a front to get him to cooperate, or a confused combination of the two, but the possibility for this trope to be in place is on the table regardless.

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* This is an extremely important character trait of [[spoiler:Flowey]] from ''VideoGame/Undertale'' ''{{VideoGame/Undertale}}'' - despite being incapable of truly feeling love due to his lack of a soul and [[TheSociopath thorough lack of morality]], his mind is still obsessed with [[spoiler:his adopted sibling who committed suicide in a failed ThanatosGambit long before the game started, also killing him in the process (he CameBackWrong). His eventual HeelFaceTurn requires him finally coming to terms with their death and finding peace.]]
** The game also implies that the feeling may have been mutual, although this is [[AmbiguouslyEvil far more debatable]] on both ends. It's left very open to interpretation if the [[spoiler:the Fallen Child Child/Chara]] was good, evil, or somewhere in between, and if their affection for their adopted brother (and perhaps their parents as well) was genuine, just a front to get him to cooperate, or a confused combination of the two, but the possibility for this trope to be in place is on the table regardless.regardless. They also may have cared about their parents to some extent but this is even less definitive.
15th Dec '17 10:36:13 PM FossilsDaDaDa
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* This is an extremely important character trait of [[spoiler:Flowey]] from ''VideoGame/Undertale'' - despite being incapable of truly feeling love due to his lack of a soul and [[TheSociopath thorough lack of morality]], his mind is still obsessed with [[spoiler:his adopted sibling who committed suicide in a failed ThanatosGambit long before the game started, also killing him in the process (he CameBackWrong). His eventual HeelFaceTurn requires him finally coming to terms with their death and finding peace.]]
** The game also implies that the feeling may have been mutual, although this is [[AmbiguouslyEvil far more debatable]] on both ends. It's left very open to interpretation if the Fallen Child was good, evil, or somewhere in between, and if their affection for their adopted brother (and perhaps their parents as well) was genuine, just a front to get him to cooperate, or a confused combination of the two, but the possibility for this trope to be in place is on the table regardless.
5th Dec '17 4:56:51 PM harostar
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* [[spoiler:The Titan spies]] in ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' are the cause of the world going to hell in a handcart, but god, do they love each other. They freak out when the others are hurt, prioritize protecting each other over the mission, and when [[spoiler:Armin claims that Annie is being tortured, the [[ExtremeDoormat meek]] Bertolt reacts by swearing to kill Armin]]. To some extent, this affection extends to the heroes as well. Due to BecomingTheMask, [[spoiler:Annie spares Armin twice when killing him would have prevented her being found out]] and [[spoiler:Reiner is injured and nearly [[HeroicSacrifice throws himself]] out a window to protect Connie]]. It isn't until things hit rock bottom and [[spoiler:Bertolt is injured that Reiner actively begins trying to harm his former comrades]]. That Evil Has Loved Ones turns out to be a major advantage to those among the heroes [[ManipulativeBastard willing]] to exploit it.

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* [[spoiler:The Titan spies]] in ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' are the cause of the world going to hell in repeatedly explores this trope, primarily as a handcart, but god, do they love each other. They freak out when the others are hurt, prioritize protecting each other over the mission, and when [[spoiler:Armin claims JustifiedTrope.
** Kenny is a brutal killer
that Annie is being tortured, enjoys his work, but he also cares deeply for his family and OnlyFriend. [[spoiler: He agreed to work for the [[ExtremeDoormat meek]] Bertolt reacts by swearing to kill Armin]]. To some extent, this affection extends to the heroes as well. Due to BecomingTheMask, [[spoiler:Annie spares Armin twice when killing him would have prevented her being found out]] and [[spoiler:Reiner is injured and nearly [[HeroicSacrifice throws himself]] out a window royal family to protect Connie]]. It isn't until things hit rock bottom the surviving members of the Ackerman Clan, and [[spoiler:Bertolt is injured that Reiner actively begins still cares for Levi even while trying to harm kill him. He also developed a close friendship with Uri Reiss, and continued to honor his former comrades]]. That Evil Has Loved Ones turns out memory after his friend's death]].
** The Warriors are not only capable of deep attachment
to be a major advantage to those among others, but driven by it and ultimately ''defeated'' by it. [[spoiler: The entire program was created with the intention of exploiting their love for the families, using it to ensure their loyalty through a Carrot-and-Stick approach. Obedience means their families being given a better life, while failure or betrayal will result in their families being punished. As a result, Reiner, Bertolt, and Annie remain loyal to their cause even as they form bonds with the other members of the 104th]]. Their attachment leads to them making costly mistakes, allowing the more ruthless heroes [[ManipulativeBastard willing]] to exploit it.romantic and platonic love as psychological warfare.
26th Nov '17 4:19:00 AM lillolillo
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-->'''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}:'''
But it was a white lie! Luthor doesn't want Val to live with the stigma of having a master criminal for an uncle! This was his one decent act in a lifetime of crime!

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-->'''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}:'''
-->'''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}:''' But it was a white lie! Luthor doesn't want Val to live with the stigma of having a master criminal for an uncle! This was his one decent act in a lifetime of crime!
26th Nov '17 4:18:41 AM lillolillo
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* Pre-Crisis ''ComicBook/LexLuthor'' is so bastard as they come, but he loves his family deeply. In the ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'' strips he goes to extraordinary lengths to prevent his sister Lena and her son from discovering their blood relationship. Supergirl herself states he only looks like a decent human being around his family. In ''Adventure Comics (Vol. 1)'' issue #388:
-->'''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}:'''
But it was a white lie! Luthor doesn't want Val to live with the stigma of having a master criminal for an uncle! This was his one decent act in a lifetime of crime!



* [[Creator/MarvelComics Marvel]] villains Absorbing Man and Titania are both mean, violent thugs, but are [[UnholyMatrimony married]] and genuinely love one another. Averted in terms of Absorbing Man's ex, who is Stonewall's mother. Stonewall is the result of Creel raping Jerry's mother, and Creel doesn't care about Stonewall either.

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* [[Creator/MarvelComics Marvel]] Creator/MarvelComics villains Absorbing Man and Titania are both mean, violent thugs, but are [[UnholyMatrimony married]] and genuinely love one another. Averted in terms of Absorbing Man's ex, who is Stonewall's mother. Stonewall is the result of Creel raping Jerry's mother, and Creel doesn't care about Stonewall either.



* In ''ComicBook/Trinity2008'', Enigma (the antimatter universe Riddler) is a smug, manipulative bastard who sets in motion a plan to steal cosmic power that throws the whole universe off balance so that he can save his daughter's life.



* On ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', there's Galatea, an EvilTwin (clone) of Supergirl developed to be an assassin for Cadmus by Professor Hamilton, who himself has [[TookALevelInJerkass fallen from grace]] into a MadScientist. Despite otherwise acting like a complete psychopath, Galatea is apparently deeply attached to Hamilton, viewing him as a ParentalSubstitute since he was the one who created her. Before she goes to attack the Justice League Watchtower in "Panic in the Sky", Galatea gives him a hug, and says, "Goodbye, Daddy" with sincere affection; this in turn causes Hamilton to have a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment as he realises the full extent of what he's done to her.

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* On ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Unlimited'', there's Galatea, an EvilTwin (clone) of Supergirl ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} developed to be an assassin for Cadmus by Professor Hamilton, who himself has [[TookALevelInJerkass fallen from grace]] into a MadScientist. Despite otherwise acting like a complete psychopath, Galatea is apparently deeply attached to Hamilton, viewing him as a ParentalSubstitute since he was the one who created her. Before she goes to attack the Justice League Watchtower in "Panic in the Sky", Galatea gives him a hug, and says, "Goodbye, Daddy" with sincere affection; this in turn causes Hamilton to have a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment as he realises the full extent of what he's done to her.
21st Nov '17 1:08:49 AM Silverblade2
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* Played straight and averted in ''Manga/DeathNote'' where [[spoiler:Light does indeed care for his family, even after his descent in morality. When his sister was kidnapped by Mello, he couldn't bring himself to kill her with the Death Note and the result was Mello acquiring a Death Note of his own as ransom.]]

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* Played straight and averted Subverted in ''Manga/DeathNote'' where [[spoiler:Light does indeed sheds away his initial care for his family, even family after his descent in morality. When his father died, he was just frustrated that he failed to deliver Mello's real name but otherwise never mourned him. When his sister was kidnapped by Mello, he couldn't bring himself seriously considered to kill her with the Death Note and the result was Mello acquiring a Death Note only relented because it would frame him as Kira. On top of that he threatened his own as ransom.girlfriend Misa to kill her and had his other girlfriend Takada burn herself to death.]]
18th Nov '17 3:32:40 PM Gamermaster
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* In ''Franchise/JojosBizarreAdventure'', two of the most evil characters have parents that love them dearly. In [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders part 3]], J. Geil is a serial rapist and murderer. His mother, Enya Geil, loves him dearly and when he is killed by [[YouKilledMyFather the brother of one of his victims]], she is devastated and [[AvengingTheVillain declares her intent to avenge him]]. Later, the BigBad of [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureDiamondIsUnbreakable part 4]], Yoshikage Kira, is a serial killer with a hand fetish who kills women and saves their hands as "girlfriends". His father Yoshihiro Kira loves him so much that after dying, he stuck around as a ghost and will go to any means necessary to get rid of anyone who could threaten his son.

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* In ''Franchise/JojosBizarreAdventure'', ''Franchise/JoJosBizarreAdventure'', two of the most evil characters have parents that love them dearly. In [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders part 3]], J. Geil is a serial rapist and murderer. His mother, Enya Geil, loves him dearly and when he is killed by [[YouKilledMyFather the brother of one of his victims]], she is devastated and [[AvengingTheVillain declares her intent to avenge him]]. Later, the BigBad of [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureDiamondIsUnbreakable part 4]], Yoshikage Kira, is a serial killer with a hand fetish who kills women and saves their hands as "girlfriends". His father Yoshihiro Kira loves him so much that after dying, he stuck around as a ghost and will go to any means necessary to get rid of anyone who could threaten his son.
14th Nov '17 5:21:28 AM rjd1922
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** Even as he's slaughtering his mentor, his best friend, and everyone who gets in his way, [[spoiler:Kyousuke]] truly loves Chisa and rationalizes everything he does as being to [[spoiler:bring justice to her murderer]] and achieve their dream of a peaceful world. His redemption arc actually starts with Naegi forcing [[spoiler:Kyousuke]] to acknowledge his loss (and the horrific things he's done because of it) instead of distracting himself from it from it with revenge [[spoiler:and self-hatred for loving someone 'weak' enough to fall to Despair.]]
** Resident BigBad and her {{Dragon}}, Junko and Mukuro, are a pair of sisters who really do love each other, in their own twisted way. Junko's attempts to kill Mukuro prove she does love her (as she wants to feel the despair that would come with her death), and Mukuro is undyingly loyal despite this and the DomesticAbuse her sister lavishes onto her.

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** Even as he's slaughtering his mentor, his best friend, and everyone who gets in his way, [[spoiler:Kyousuke]] [[spoiler:Kyosuke Munakata]] truly loves Yukizome Chisa and rationalizes everything he does as being to [[spoiler:bring justice to her murderer]] and achieve their dream of a peaceful world. His redemption arc actually starts with Naegi [[TheHero Makoto Naegi]] forcing [[spoiler:Kyousuke]] [[spoiler:Kyosuke]] to acknowledge his loss (and the horrific things he's done because of it) instead of distracting himself from it from it with revenge [[spoiler:and self-hatred for loving someone 'weak' enough to fall to Despair.despair.]]
** Resident BigBad and her {{Dragon}}, Junko Enoshima and Mukuro, Mukuro Ikusaba, are a pair of sisters who really do love each other, in their own twisted way. Junko's attempts to kill Mukuro prove she does love her (as she wants to feel the despair that would come with her death), and Mukuro is undyingly loyal despite this and the DomesticAbuse her sister lavishes onto her. Junko has also had genuine feelings for Yasuke Matsuda since childhood, as seen in ''LightNovel/DanganRonpaZero'', and eventually succeeds in killing both to feel the despair.
28th Oct '17 12:15:33 PM OlmoJV
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* In ''FanFic/TheVow'', the plot of ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda2'' has been expanded with Lady Lianne, Lord Shen's former fiancée. Shen loved her before his banishment from Gongmen City and he still does, even if that love has been buried with hatred for the perceived betrayal in rejecting him for his crime of [[spoiler:mass murder]]. While he wants to conquer China and [[AndNowYouMustMarryMe make her his queen as a form of punishment]], he does want precisely ''her'', the woman he loves. Lianne in turn wants desperately to stop Shen's plans and make him repent as she also still loves him. Eventually [[spoiler:Shen sets Lianne free, realizing that [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy he'd rather have her happy than by his side on his dark road]], though Lianne finalizes their marriage out of her own will before she leaves]]. Shen is left [[VillainousBSOD in a state of deep depression due to his broken heart]], but [[spoiler:he survives his canon ending because he wants to see Lianne one more time]]. [[spoiler:The epilogue shows Shen and Lianne living together with their child.]]

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* In ''FanFic/TheVow'', ''Fanfic/TheVow'', the plot of ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda2'' has been expanded with Lady Lianne, Lord Shen's former fiancée. Shen loved her before his banishment from Gongmen City and he still does, even if that love has been buried with hatred for the perceived betrayal in rejecting him for his crime of [[spoiler:mass murder]]. While he wants to conquer China and [[AndNowYouMustMarryMe make her his queen as a form of punishment]], he does want precisely ''her'', the woman he loves. Lianne in turn wants desperately to stop Shen's plans and make him repent as she also still loves him. Eventually [[spoiler:Shen sets Lianne free, realizing that [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy he'd rather have her happy than by his side on his dark road]], though Lianne finalizes their marriage out of her own will before she leaves]]. Shen is left [[VillainousBSOD in a state of deep depression due to his broken heart]], but [[spoiler:he survives his canon ending because he wants to see Lianne one more time]]. [[spoiler:The epilogue shows Shen and Lianne living together with their child.]]
26th Oct '17 9:56:37 AM xcountryguy
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* Played straight and averted in ''Manga/DeathNote'' where [[spoiler: Light does indeed care for his family, even after his descent in morality. When his sister was kidnapped by Mello, he couldn't bring himself to kill her with the Death Note and the result was Mello acquiring a Death Note of his own as ransom.]]

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* Played straight and averted in ''Manga/DeathNote'' where [[spoiler: Light [[spoiler:Light does indeed care for his family, even after his descent in morality. When his sister was kidnapped by Mello, he couldn't bring himself to kill her with the Death Note and the result was Mello acquiring a Death Note of his own as ransom.]]



** Played straight with Matt and Mello. Matt seems to be the only person Mello actually cares about besides himself, and [[spoiler: Mello expresses genuine sorrow when Matt gets killed by Takada's bodyguards.]]

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** Played straight with Matt and Mello. Matt seems to be the only person Mello actually cares about besides himself, and [[spoiler: Mello [[spoiler:Mello expresses genuine sorrow when Matt gets killed by Takada's bodyguards.]]



* They may have been sociopathic assholes, but the three Trinity siblings of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00'' did really love and protect each other. [[spoiler: And Nena [[CryCute genuinely cried and mourned]] when Michael and Johann got killed.]].

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* They may have been sociopathic assholes, but the three Trinity siblings of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00'' did really love and protect each other. [[spoiler: And [[spoiler:And Nena [[CryCute genuinely cried and mourned]] when Michael and Johann got killed.]].



* In both the manga and the first anime adaptation of ''Manga/SailorMoon'' Prince Dimande of the Black Moon Clan tries to ruthlessly conquer the Earth and has a creepy obsession with Usagi/Sailor Moon/Queen Serenity to the point that he even tries to sexually assault her. Despite this he is clearly shown to love his younger brother Saphir and his motivation for taking over the earth is partly because he promised his brother that they would one day live happy lifes there, away from the desolation of Nemesis. In both continuities he [[spoiler: is incredibly shaken over Saphir's death. Especially in the manga, where he is [[KillTheOnesYouLove forced to kill him]] after he is brainwashed into attacking Dimande by the real BigBad of the season, [[TheManBehindTheMan Wiseman]]. In the anime Saphir is instead directly executed by Wiseman who claims he was a traitor, when Saphir was only trying to warn his older brother of Wiseman's treachery. This causes Dimande to eventually [[HeelFaceTurn turn on Wiseman]] and is one of the things that inspires him to perform a HeroicSacrifice to save Usagi, thereby [[RedemptionEqualsDeath redeeming himself somewhat]].]]

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* In both the manga and the first anime adaptation of ''Manga/SailorMoon'' Prince Dimande of the Black Moon Clan tries to ruthlessly conquer the Earth and has a creepy obsession with Usagi/Sailor Moon/Queen Serenity to the point that he even tries to sexually assault her. Despite this he is clearly shown to love his younger brother Saphir and his motivation for taking over the earth is partly because he promised his brother that they would one day live happy lifes there, away from the desolation of Nemesis. In both continuities he [[spoiler: is [[spoiler:is incredibly shaken over Saphir's death. Especially in the manga, where he is [[KillTheOnesYouLove forced to kill him]] after he is brainwashed into attacking Dimande by the real BigBad of the season, [[TheManBehindTheMan Wiseman]]. In the anime Saphir is instead directly executed by Wiseman who claims he was a traitor, when Saphir was only trying to warn his older brother of Wiseman's treachery. This causes Dimande to eventually [[HeelFaceTurn turn on Wiseman]] and is one of the things that inspires him to perform a HeroicSacrifice to save Usagi, thereby [[RedemptionEqualsDeath redeeming himself somewhat]].]]



** Several of the Arrancar also demonstrate this tendency, most pointedly Tia Harribel and Coyote Starrk, who are both very attached to their Fraccion. [[spoiler: When Tia thinks hers have been killed, she becomes furious and would have killed Toshiro if he hadn't been quick enough to set up a decoy maneuver he'd been saving for ''Aizen'', while Starrk in the anime seems to lose his will to keep fighting when Lilinette dies protecting him, and is soon slain by Kyoraku.]] Even Loly and Menoly, two arrancar girls who are noted mostly for their psychotic grudge against Orihime, appear to have genuinely loved each other, as Menoly supported Loly despite her massive and justified doubts about [[spoiler: attacking Orihime a second time]] and Loly went ''berserk'' when [[spoiler: Menoly was killed. ]]
** The Fraccions also share such feelings, as [[spoiler: Lilinette's last words are her calling out to Starrk in anguish, and the novels show that the three girls from Tia's group would rather ask a human like Orihime for help than let their leader die. One of them even refuses to have her own considerable injuries healed first (and the three had barely survived ''being torched alive'' on top of mutilating themselves to create a Chimera), so anxious for Tia's recovery she was.]]

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** Several of the Arrancar also demonstrate this tendency, most pointedly Tia Harribel and Coyote Starrk, who are both very attached to their Fraccion. [[spoiler: When [[spoiler:When Tia thinks hers have been killed, she becomes furious and would have killed Toshiro if he hadn't been quick enough to set up a decoy maneuver he'd been saving for ''Aizen'', while Starrk in the anime seems to lose his will to keep fighting when Lilinette dies protecting him, and is soon slain by Kyoraku.]] Even Loly and Menoly, two arrancar girls who are noted mostly for their psychotic grudge against Orihime, appear to have genuinely loved each other, as Menoly supported Loly despite her massive and justified doubts about [[spoiler: attacking [[spoiler:attacking Orihime a second time]] and Loly went ''berserk'' when [[spoiler: Menoly [[spoiler:Menoly was killed. ]]
** The Fraccions also share such feelings, as [[spoiler: Lilinette's [[spoiler:Lilinette's last words are her calling out to Starrk in anguish, and the novels show that the three girls from Tia's group would rather ask a human like Orihime for help than let their leader die. One of them even refuses to have her own considerable injuries healed first (and the three had barely survived ''being torched alive'' on top of mutilating themselves to create a Chimera), so anxious for Tia's recovery she was.]]



** Also, Nakago and Soi, though it doesn't seem so at first. [[spoiler: After Soi is killed, Nakago is obviously very pained to lose her, and keeps her body with him]]

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** Also, Nakago and Soi, though it doesn't seem so at first. [[spoiler: After [[spoiler:After Soi is killed, Nakago is obviously very pained to lose her, and keeps her body with him]]



* ''Manga/RurouniKenshin'': Shishio Makoto, despite being the [[TheSocialDarwinist Darwinian]], totalitarian, BigBad of the Kyoto arc, and for being [[spoiler: the subsequent cause of her death]], truly loved [[UnholyMatrimony his consort Yumi]] and was the only person who really valued her as a human being. In fact, Shishio became very offended when Kenshin implied that he didn't love Yumi for [[spoiler: taking advantage of her position by stabbing her in order to stab Kenshin.]] As it turns out, it was what Yumi wanted all along, and Shishio honored such an action via [[spoiler: [[DiedInYourArmsTonight holding her in his arms]] as she died]]. [[spoiler: [[TogetherInDeath They're eventually reunited in the afterlife]], which for them, is hell.]]
* Doflamingo in ''Manga/OnePiece'' is shown to have a soft spot for his most loyal, reliable crewmates. When [[spoiler: Monet prepares to blow up Punk Hazard]], he is visibly saddened and later when [[spoiler: Monet didn't respond (having her heart incidentally squeezed by Caesar)]], he directly goes to the place himself to find out the reason why. At one point, he even ''apologizes'' to [[spoiler: Vergo]], calling the latter a companion and in other words a friend. An AlternateCharacterInterpretation of him, by another henchman's account, [[spoiler: killing all of Baby 5's fiances]] was because he was concerned for ''her'', seeing how she tended to [[spoiler: accept proposals from swindlers and sleazes]], his actions might be seen as an extreme BigBrotherInstinct. [[spoiler:Later chapters reveal that his relationship with that of his highest executives are akin to those of a family; they have shared both joy and sorrow with him, so he will not tolerate any disrespect towards them.]]

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* ''Manga/RurouniKenshin'': Shishio Makoto, despite being the [[TheSocialDarwinist Darwinian]], totalitarian, BigBad of the Kyoto arc, and for being [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the subsequent cause of her death]], truly loved [[UnholyMatrimony his consort Yumi]] and was the only person who really valued her as a human being. In fact, Shishio became very offended when Kenshin implied that he didn't love Yumi for [[spoiler: taking [[spoiler:taking advantage of her position by stabbing her in order to stab Kenshin.]] As it turns out, it was what Yumi wanted all along, and Shishio honored such an action via [[spoiler: [[DiedInYourArmsTonight [[spoiler:[[DiedInYourArmsTonight holding her in his arms]] as she died]]. [[spoiler: [[TogetherInDeath [[spoiler:[[TogetherInDeath They're eventually reunited in the afterlife]], which for them, is hell.]]
* Doflamingo in ''Manga/OnePiece'' is shown to have a soft spot for his most loyal, reliable crewmates. When [[spoiler: Monet [[spoiler:Monet prepares to blow up Punk Hazard]], he is visibly saddened and later when [[spoiler: Monet [[spoiler:Monet didn't respond (having her heart incidentally squeezed by Caesar)]], he directly goes to the place himself to find out the reason why. At one point, he even ''apologizes'' to [[spoiler: Vergo]], [[spoiler:Vergo]], calling the latter a companion and in other words a friend. An AlternateCharacterInterpretation of him, by another henchman's account, [[spoiler: killing [[spoiler:killing all of Baby 5's fiances]] was because he was concerned for ''her'', seeing how she tended to [[spoiler: accept [[spoiler:accept proposals from swindlers and sleazes]], his actions might be seen as an extreme BigBrotherInstinct. [[spoiler:Later chapters reveal that his relationship with that of his highest executives are akin to those of a family; they have shared both joy and sorrow with him, so he will not tolerate any disrespect towards them.]]



** [[spoiler:Pekoms]] of the Big Mom pirates may be absolutely ruthless when dealing with people who don't pay Big Mom's Candy tribute. But he [[spoiler: burst into tears when he saw his friend and family were alright after seeing what Jack did to Zo.]]
** Out of Big Mom's sons and daughters, several of them at least care for their siblings. i.e., her sons Opera and Mont-d'Or and their sister Galette cared greatly for their brother Moscato and were greatly saddened and shaken [[spoiler: when they witnessed Big Mom rip out their brother's soul in one of her hunger-induced rampages.]] The closest to an exception is the CreepyChild Anana, who bullies the little twins Dragee and Dolce to the point that they call her sadistic. Katakuri in particular cares deeply about his siblings, shown multiple times intercepting attacks against them.

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** [[spoiler:Pekoms]] of the Big Mom pirates may be absolutely ruthless when dealing with people who don't pay Big Mom's Candy tribute. But he [[spoiler: burst [[spoiler:burst into tears when he saw his friend and family were alright after seeing what Jack did to Zo.]]
** Out of Big Mom's sons and daughters, several of them at least care for their siblings. i.e., her sons Opera and Mont-d'Or and their sister Galette cared greatly for their brother Moscato and were greatly saddened and shaken [[spoiler: when [[spoiler:when they witnessed Big Mom rip out their brother's soul in one of her hunger-induced rampages.]] The closest to an exception is the CreepyChild Anana, who bullies the little twins Dragee and Dolce to the point that they call her sadistic. Katakuri in particular cares deeply about his siblings, shown multiple times intercepting attacks against them.



** Jakotsu is a massive HeManWomanHater and CombatSadomasochist, yeah. However, he ''is'' honestly loyal to Bankotsu. In the anime, is shown that they were together even before forming the Band of Seven, and when [[spoiler: he gets Suikotsu's Shikon shard]] he hands it to Bankotsu ''without hesitation'' instead of taking it and its powers for himself.
** Similarly, Bankotsu is a trigger-happy killer BloodKnight but genuinely cares for his fellow Seven members and does NOT tolerate any harm made to them. He's seen mourning [[spoiler: Mukotsu, Kyoukotsu and Ginkotsu]] after their deaths, [[spoiler: and the reason why he was pissed enough to ''kill'' Renkotsu in a duel was because he killed Jakotsu. Inuyasha even tries to point out to Bankotsu that Naraku was only using him and planned to betray him, and that since they have no real reason to fight he won't stop him if he just takes off. Bankotsu's response is a ''firm'' "I'm not going anywhere until I avenge my friends".]]
* Ciel Phantomhive of ''Manga/BlackButler'' is a full-on VillainProtagonist who is primarily motivated by revenge and doesn't mind killing people who get in his way, but he clearly cares very much for his [[PerfectlyArrangedMarriage fiancée]] Elizabeth. Though he'll huff about how it's a waste of time, he'll go out of his way to please her-- letting her throw parties in his house, having an Easter egg hunt because she wanted to, and [[AlwaysSaveTheGirl throwing himself in front of a bear for her.]] He also tries to protect her from the gruesomeness of what he does, [[spoiler: even now that he knows she's [[DeliberatelyDistressedDamsel secretly]] a LittleMissBadass]].
* [[spoiler:The Titan spies]] in ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' are the cause of the world going to hell in a handcart, but god, do they love each other. They freak out when the others are hurt, prioritize protecting each other over the mission, and when [[spoiler:Armin claims that Annie is being tortured, the [[ExtremeDoormat meek]] Bertolt reacts by swearing to kill Armin]]. To some extent, this affection extends to the heroes as well. Due to BecomingTheMask, [[spoiler: Annie spares Armin twice when killing him would have prevented her being found out]] and [[spoiler: Reiner is injured and nearly [[HeroicSacrifice throws himself]] out a window to protect Connie]]. It isn't until things hit rock bottom and [[spoiler: Bertolt is injured that Reiner actively begins trying to harm his former comrades]]. That Evil Has Loved Ones turns out to be a major advantage to those among the heroes [[ManipulativeBastard willing]] to exploit it.

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** Jakotsu is a massive HeManWomanHater and CombatSadomasochist, yeah. However, he ''is'' honestly loyal to Bankotsu. In the anime, is shown that they were together even before forming the Band of Seven, and when [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he gets Suikotsu's Shikon shard]] he hands it to Bankotsu ''without hesitation'' instead of taking it and its powers for himself.
** Similarly, Bankotsu is a trigger-happy killer BloodKnight but genuinely cares for his fellow Seven members and does NOT tolerate any harm made to them. He's seen mourning [[spoiler: Mukotsu, [[spoiler:Mukotsu, Kyoukotsu and Ginkotsu]] after their deaths, [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and the reason why he was pissed enough to ''kill'' Renkotsu in a duel was because he killed Jakotsu. Inuyasha even tries to point out to Bankotsu that Naraku was only using him and planned to betray him, and that since they have no real reason to fight he won't stop him if he just takes off. Bankotsu's response is a ''firm'' "I'm not going anywhere until I avenge my friends".]]
* Ciel Phantomhive of ''Manga/BlackButler'' is a full-on VillainProtagonist who is primarily motivated by revenge and doesn't mind killing people who get in his way, but he clearly cares very much for his [[PerfectlyArrangedMarriage fiancée]] Elizabeth. Though he'll huff about how it's a waste of time, he'll go out of his way to please her-- letting her throw parties in his house, having an Easter egg hunt because she wanted to, and [[AlwaysSaveTheGirl throwing himself in front of a bear for her.]] He also tries to protect her from the gruesomeness of what he does, [[spoiler: even [[spoiler:even now that he knows she's [[DeliberatelyDistressedDamsel secretly]] a LittleMissBadass]].
* [[spoiler:The Titan spies]] in ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' are the cause of the world going to hell in a handcart, but god, do they love each other. They freak out when the others are hurt, prioritize protecting each other over the mission, and when [[spoiler:Armin claims that Annie is being tortured, the [[ExtremeDoormat meek]] Bertolt reacts by swearing to kill Armin]]. To some extent, this affection extends to the heroes as well. Due to BecomingTheMask, [[spoiler: Annie [[spoiler:Annie spares Armin twice when killing him would have prevented her being found out]] and [[spoiler: Reiner [[spoiler:Reiner is injured and nearly [[HeroicSacrifice throws himself]] out a window to protect Connie]]. It isn't until things hit rock bottom and [[spoiler: Bertolt [[spoiler:Bertolt is injured that Reiner actively begins trying to harm his former comrades]]. That Evil Has Loved Ones turns out to be a major advantage to those among the heroes [[ManipulativeBastard willing]] to exploit it.



* Oriko and Kirika, of ''Manga/PuellaMagiOrikoMagica'', have this as their main motivation. Though Kirika's feelings are obvious from the outset, Oriko initially seems to be only using her for a greater purpose of saving the human race. However, when questioned as to why she [[spoiler: killed dozens of innocent people, she looks at Kirika's corpse and says "[[FamousLastWords To protect my world]]."]]

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* Oriko and Kirika, of ''Manga/PuellaMagiOrikoMagica'', have this as their main motivation. Though Kirika's feelings are obvious from the outset, Oriko initially seems to be only using her for a greater purpose of saving the human race. However, when questioned as to why she [[spoiler: killed [[spoiler:killed dozens of innocent people, she looks at Kirika's corpse and says "[[FamousLastWords To protect my world]]."]]



** Isley ends up taking an amnesic [[BigBad Priscilla]] and the human Raki under his wing, and realizes that their years spent together were a happy time for him, referring to them as his family. As he's [[spoiler: being devoured by the Abyss Eaters]], he thinks of how he would give anything for that time with them to have lasted longer.
** And the third Abyssal One, Luciela of the South, is [[TearsOfJoy overjoyed]] upon being reunited with her younger sister, [[spoiler: Rafaela]].

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** Isley ends up taking an amnesic [[BigBad Priscilla]] and the human Raki under his wing, and realizes that their years spent together were a happy time for him, referring to them as his family. As he's [[spoiler: being [[spoiler:being devoured by the Abyss Eaters]], he thinks of how he would give anything for that time with them to have lasted longer.
** And the third Abyssal One, Luciela of the South, is [[TearsOfJoy overjoyed]] upon being reunited with her younger sister, [[spoiler: Rafaela]].[[spoiler:Rafaela]].



* Jail Scaglietti of ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers'' is an unrepentant MadScientist who has no problem torturing children for his schemes, but he views all of his combat cyborgs as his daughters [[spoiler: even the ones who perform [[HeelFaceTurn Heel-Face Turns]].]]

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* Jail Scaglietti of ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers'' is an unrepentant MadScientist who has no problem torturing children for his schemes, but he views all of his combat cyborgs as his daughters [[spoiler: even [[spoiler:even the ones who perform [[HeelFaceTurn Heel-Face Turns]].]]



* In Creator/FrankMiller's ''[[ComicBook/SinCity To Hell and Back]]'', [[DirtyCop the corrupt precinct captain]] Liebowitz lets the local crime lords run their businesses without interference, but when they worry he might be wavering, they threaten his family [[spoiler: and break his son's arm]]. [[spoiler: His response is to splatter his contact's brains across an interrogation room.]]

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* In Creator/FrankMiller's ''[[ComicBook/SinCity To Hell and Back]]'', [[DirtyCop the corrupt precinct captain]] Liebowitz lets the local crime lords run their businesses without interference, but when they worry he might be wavering, they threaten his family [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and break his son's arm]]. [[spoiler: His [[spoiler:His response is to splatter his contact's brains across an interrogation room.]]



** This aspect of Kingpin's character is a plot point in ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan''; it's revealed that the Ultimate version of Wilson's wife fell into a mystery coma before the start of the story. Kingpin uses his resources to care for her and strictly refuses to allow any discussion of criminal activity in front of her ("She's an ill woman. She doesn't need her head filled with our ugliness."). After a particularly difficult storyline, Daredevil decides that the only thing a man like him would understand is [[spoiler: the murder of his wife,]] and Spider-Man has to try and convince him that [[spoiler: enacting this plan would make them as bad as each other.]]

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** This aspect of Kingpin's character is a plot point in ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan''; it's revealed that the Ultimate version of Wilson's wife fell into a mystery coma before the start of the story. Kingpin uses his resources to care for her and strictly refuses to allow any discussion of criminal activity in front of her ("She's an ill woman. She doesn't need her head filled with our ugliness."). After a particularly difficult storyline, Daredevil decides that the only thing a man like him would understand is [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the murder of his wife,]] and Spider-Man has to try and convince him that [[spoiler: enacting [[spoiler:enacting this plan would make them as bad as each other.]]



* O'Malley from the ''Machinima/RedVsBlue'' AU ''Murderer's Row'' shows a twisted, [[RapeAsDrama rapey]], interest in [[spoiler: Doc]]. On a more platonic note, he and Gary are, in flashback chapters, shown to be quite friendly with each other, and O'Malley was extremely upset when [[spoiler:Delta killed Gary for a perceived betrayal.]]

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* O'Malley from the ''Machinima/RedVsBlue'' AU ''Murderer's Row'' shows a twisted, [[RapeAsDrama rapey]], interest in [[spoiler: Doc]].[[spoiler:Doc]]. On a more platonic note, he and Gary are, in flashback chapters, shown to be quite friendly with each other, and O'Malley was extremely upset when [[spoiler:Delta killed Gary for a perceived betrayal.]]



** She is also implied to have remorse over [[spoiler: accidentally murdering her own brother,]] when her "killer mark" first appeared and lead to her being disowned by her family.

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** She is also implied to have remorse over [[spoiler: accidentally [[spoiler:accidentally murdering her own brother,]] when her "killer mark" first appeared and lead to her being disowned by her family.



** [[spoiler: Terra (and Titan too, before he [[AxCrazy snapped]]) also loved Harmony (Terra's mother and Titan's first wife) and the original Empyrean (Terra's brother/first husband and Titan's son).]]

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** [[spoiler: Terra [[spoiler:Terra (and Titan too, before he [[AxCrazy snapped]]) also loved Harmony (Terra's mother and Titan's first wife) and the original Empyrean (Terra's brother/first husband and Titan's son).]]



** This describes the relationship between the [[BadFuture Dark World]] versions of [[PsychopathicManchild Fluttercruel]] and [[EvilOverlord Discord]]. They both genuinely care about each other; Fluttercruel is DaddysLittleVillain all the way, and [[GodOfGood Fauna Luster]] help you if you hurt Cruel in Discord's presence. [[spoiler: When Discord is mortally wounded, Fluttercruel has a full-blown VillainousBreakdown and becomes an OmnicidalManiac to protect him.]]

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** This describes the relationship between the [[BadFuture Dark World]] versions of [[PsychopathicManchild Fluttercruel]] and [[EvilOverlord Discord]]. They both genuinely care about each other; Fluttercruel is DaddysLittleVillain all the way, and [[GodOfGood Fauna Luster]] help you if you hurt Cruel in Discord's presence. [[spoiler: When [[spoiler:When Discord is mortally wounded, Fluttercruel has a full-blown VillainousBreakdown and becomes an OmnicidalManiac to protect him.]]



* In ''FanFic/PrincessTrixieSparkle'' Astelle the main antagonist of the story, has a soft spot for Princess Luna [[spoiler: [[LongLostRelative the little sister she never got to meet.]]]]
** Also Astelle's minion/creation [[TheDragon The Shadow Alicorn]], sees her as its mother and largely participates in her schemes [[WellDoneSonGuy to make her happy]]... even if she may not see things the same way. [[spoiler: He is also revealed to be an OldFriend to Luna.]]

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* In ''FanFic/PrincessTrixieSparkle'' Astelle the main antagonist of the story, has a soft spot for Princess Luna [[spoiler: [[LongLostRelative [[spoiler:[[LongLostRelative the little sister she never got to meet.]]]]
** Also Astelle's minion/creation [[TheDragon The Shadow Alicorn]], sees her as its mother and largely participates in her schemes [[WellDoneSonGuy to make her happy]]... even if she may not see things the same way. [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He is also revealed to be an OldFriend to Luna.]]



* In FanFic/TheMasksWeWear both Zuko and Azula are horrified by the thought of their father dying as a result of his insisting on using lightning redirection immediately after learning it. [[spoiler: He succeeds.]]
* The ''WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheGuardians'' fic ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8751000/1/Guardian-of-Light Guardian of Light]]'', Pitch is revealed to be [[spoiler: Helen's father]]. While his treatment of her towards the beginning leaves much to be desired, it gradually becomes apparent that he really does love her, despite everything.

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* In FanFic/TheMasksWeWear both Zuko and Azula are horrified by the thought of their father dying as a result of his insisting on using lightning redirection immediately after learning it. [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He succeeds.]]
* The ''WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheGuardians'' fic ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8751000/1/Guardian-of-Light Guardian of Light]]'', Pitch is revealed to be [[spoiler: Helen's [[spoiler:Helen's father]]. While his treatment of her towards the beginning leaves much to be desired, it gradually becomes apparent that he really does love her, despite everything.



* Tsali from ''FanFic/SonicXDarkChaos'' deeply cared about the mercenaries he hired to aid him with exterminating the Seedrians - to the point when [[spoiler: they betrayed him to try to end the Metarex War]], he was so devastated that he suffered a slight VillainousBreakdown. Especially Talia, as [[spoiler: she was madly in love with Tsali and only reluctantly turned against him]] which is probably why [[spoiler: he gave her a MercyKill]].

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* Tsali from ''FanFic/SonicXDarkChaos'' deeply cared about the mercenaries he hired to aid him with exterminating the Seedrians - to the point when [[spoiler: they [[spoiler:they betrayed him to try to end the Metarex War]], he was so devastated that he suffered a slight VillainousBreakdown. Especially Talia, as [[spoiler: she [[spoiler:she was madly in love with Tsali and only reluctantly turned against him]] which is probably why [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he gave her a MercyKill]].



** Though he tries to brush it off to catch Trunks off guard, [[AmazinglyEmbarrassingParents King Cold]], unlike the original series, is also visibly ''pissed'' when [[KidFromTheFuture Future Trunks]] [[spoiler: kills Freeza]].

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** Though he tries to brush it off to catch Trunks off guard, [[AmazinglyEmbarrassingParents King Cold]], unlike the original series, is also visibly ''pissed'' when [[KidFromTheFuture Future Trunks]] [[spoiler: kills [[spoiler:kills Freeza]].



** Dr. Gero modeled Android 16 after his son, who was killed [[spoiler: in Goku's attack on the Red Ribbon Base.]]

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** Dr. Gero modeled Android 16 after his son, who was killed [[spoiler: in [[spoiler:in Goku's attack on the Red Ribbon Base.]]



* ''Fanfic/PokemonResetBloodlines'': [[DarkActionGirl Belladonna]] and her crew are ruthless and vengeful vigilantes, but they deeply care for each other romantically. [[spoiler: Belladonna, when she discovers Ash may be her half brother, refrains from killing him, tries to strike up a friendly conversation with him, and offers him genuine comfort when he cries over the potential death of Primate]].

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* ''Fanfic/PokemonResetBloodlines'': [[DarkActionGirl Belladonna]] and her crew are ruthless and vengeful vigilantes, but they deeply care for each other romantically. [[spoiler: Belladonna, [[spoiler:Belladonna, when she discovers Ash may be her half brother, refrains from killing him, tries to strike up a friendly conversation with him, and offers him genuine comfort when he cries over the potential death of Primate]].



** Karl in ''Film/DieHard'' grieves over [=McClane=] killing [[spoiler: Karl's brother.]]

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** Karl in ''Film/DieHard'' grieves over [=McClane=] killing [[spoiler: Karl's [[spoiler:Karl's brother.]]



** In the seventh entry in the franchise, the new BigBad Deckard Shaw is out for revenge on Dom and his team, after they left his younger brother [[spoiler: critically injured and in a coma]] during the last film. The next film also shows that [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas their mother is also on good terms with them]] and that their family bond is so strong, [[spoiler: when Dom offers to bury the hatchet and help reunite the Shaw brothers, as part of his gambit to defeat the BiggerBad, Deckard solidifies his HeelFaceTurn and they part on good terms.]]

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** In the seventh entry in the franchise, the new BigBad Deckard Shaw is out for revenge on Dom and his team, after they left his younger brother [[spoiler: critically [[spoiler:critically injured and in a coma]] during the last film. The next film also shows that [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas their mother is also on good terms with them]] and that their family bond is so strong, [[spoiler: when [[spoiler:when Dom offers to bury the hatchet and help reunite the Shaw brothers, as part of his gambit to defeat the BiggerBad, Deckard solidifies his HeelFaceTurn and they part on good terms.]]



* In ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'', Yondu Udonta is a ruthless pirate who'll gladly kill for a profit -- or if you just annoy him -- but he also cares about his men and doesn't hesitate to forgive adoptive son Peter when the opportunity presents itself. A Ravager even states that he's always had a soft spot for Peter and in the sequel [[spoiler: performs a HeroicSacrifice to save Peter, after his biological father Ego [[OffingTheOffspring tries to kill him to further his own plans.]]]]
-->'''Yondu:''' [[spoiler: [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments He may be your father, but he ain't your daddy.]]]]
** [[spoiler: Peter's biological father Ego The Living Planet]] ''does'' genuinely love his son and his old lover, and presumably the many other children and lovers he had over the eons. Unfortunately, he still cares more about [[ItsAllAboutMe his own plans for the universe]], than anyone else. As such he sees loving his family as [[LoveIsAWeakness a weakness to overcome]].

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* In ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'', Yondu Udonta is a ruthless pirate who'll gladly kill for a profit -- or if you just annoy him -- but he also cares about his men and doesn't hesitate to forgive adoptive son Peter when the opportunity presents itself. A Ravager even states that he's always had a soft spot for Peter and in the sequel [[spoiler: performs [[spoiler:performs a HeroicSacrifice to save Peter, after his biological father Ego [[OffingTheOffspring tries to kill him to further his own plans.]]]]
-->'''Yondu:''' [[spoiler: [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments [[spoiler:[[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments He may be your father, but he ain't your daddy.]]]]
** [[spoiler: Peter's [[spoiler:Peter's biological father Ego The Living Planet]] ''does'' genuinely love his son and his old lover, and presumably the many other children and lovers he had over the eons. Unfortunately, he still cares more about [[ItsAllAboutMe his own plans for the universe]], than anyone else. As such he sees loving his family as [[LoveIsAWeakness a weakness to overcome]].



* The BigBad of ''Film/JohnWick'' Viggo Tarasof, only goes after the hero in defense of his son Iosef, [[BullyingTheDragon who stupidly stole John's car and killed his dog, while his was still morning his wife's death]], leading him to start his quest for revenge. Viggo even acknowledges that his son is an idiot and the whole movie is all his fault, but none-the-less throws everything he has at John to defend him and [[spoiler: after Iosef is killed, his main goal becomes seeking retribution on John.]]

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* The BigBad of ''Film/JohnWick'' Viggo Tarasof, only goes after the hero in defense of his son Iosef, [[BullyingTheDragon who stupidly stole John's car and killed his dog, while his was still morning his wife's death]], leading him to start his quest for revenge. Viggo even acknowledges that his son is an idiot and the whole movie is all his fault, but none-the-less throws everything he has at John to defend him and [[spoiler: after [[spoiler:after Iosef is killed, his main goal becomes seeking retribution on John.]]



* Wah Sing Ku (Jet Li) at the end of ''Film/LethalWeapon4'' is attempting to flee Riggs and Murtaugh with his brother, all the other villains having been killed. When Murtaugh shoots Ku's brother while aiming for Ku himself, Ku sticks around and tries to kill Riggs and Murtaugh in revenge. [[spoiler: Riggs then shoots Ku underwater after they fall off a pier while fighting.]]

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* Wah Sing Ku (Jet Li) at the end of ''Film/LethalWeapon4'' is attempting to flee Riggs and Murtaugh with his brother, all the other villains having been killed. When Murtaugh shoots Ku's brother while aiming for Ku himself, Ku sticks around and tries to kill Riggs and Murtaugh in revenge. [[spoiler: Riggs [[spoiler:Riggs then shoots Ku underwater after they fall off a pier while fighting.]]



** Bill, [[spoiler: Beatrix]]/The Bride and Vernita from ''Film/KillBill'' are all merciless murderers as well as loving parents. Also, Budd's sword has the inscription: "To My Brother Budd, The Only Man I Ever Loved. Bill"

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** Bill, [[spoiler: Beatrix]]/The [[spoiler:Beatrix]]/The Bride and Vernita from ''Film/KillBill'' are all merciless murderers as well as loving parents. Also, Budd's sword has the inscription: "To My Brother Budd, The Only Man I Ever Loved. Bill"



** The Bride's horrifying dilemma about killing Bill in the end stems from the fact that she finds out [[spoiler: he's actually a good daddy to their child, BB. The little girl is well taken care of ([[CreepyChild though her train of thoughts is... special]]), knows that her mommy isn't dead, and actually is ''very'' happy to meet up with the Bride since Bill had told her that she would come to visit her someday (though he didn't tell her what for...).]] The scene in which The Bride [[spoiler: is given the shock of her life once she sees BB ''when she's about to sneak in on Bill to kill him'']] is perfectly played as well.

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** The Bride's horrifying dilemma about killing Bill in the end stems from the fact that she finds out [[spoiler: he's [[spoiler:he's actually a good daddy to their child, BB. The little girl is well taken care of ([[CreepyChild though her train of thoughts is... special]]), knows that her mommy isn't dead, and actually is ''very'' happy to meet up with the Bride since Bill had told her that she would come to visit her someday (though he didn't tell her what for...).]] The scene in which The Bride [[spoiler: is [[spoiler:is given the shock of her life once she sees BB ''when she's about to sneak in on Bill to kill him'']] is perfectly played as well.



** Played straight with [[spoiler: the Princes, however. They are fine with killing each other to be King (because that's how their father earned his place on the throne), but Septimus reacts with offense when the King asks him if he killed their missing sister, Una. When the Princes finally reunite with her during the FinalBattle, (although they're ghosts) they all joyfully shout, "Sister!"]]

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** Played straight with [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Princes, however. They are fine with killing each other to be King (because that's how their father earned his place on the throne), but Septimus reacts with offense when the King asks him if he killed their missing sister, Una. When the Princes finally reunite with her during the FinalBattle, (although they're ghosts) they all joyfully shout, "Sister!"]]



** And [[spoiler: Admiral Marcus]] does love his daughter and pauses to have her transported to safety before [[spoiler: opening fire again on the rest of the ''Enterprise'', who she was pleading for him to spare]].

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** And [[spoiler: Admiral [[spoiler:Admiral Marcus]] does love his daughter and pauses to have her transported to safety before [[spoiler: opening [[spoiler:opening fire again on the rest of the ''Enterprise'', who she was pleading for him to spare]].



* Loki in ''Film/{{Thor}}''. Despite everything that happened, his brother, his mother, his father, and his friends still love and care for him. He himself may not show interest in the lot of them once he realizes [[spoiler: he is adopted]].

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* Loki in ''Film/{{Thor}}''. Despite everything that happened, his brother, his mother, his father, and his friends still love and care for him. He himself may not show interest in the lot of them once he realizes [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he is adopted]].



* Joe Keller of Arthur Miller's ''All My Sons'' is a warm, likable, friendly fellow who genuinely loves his son and his wife. He also [[spoiler: deliberately sold defective parts to the Air Force that got 21 pilots killed and framed his partner for it. Eventually, his justifications get broken down and he kills himself offstage at the end of the show]].

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* Joe Keller of Arthur Miller's ''All My Sons'' is a warm, likable, friendly fellow who genuinely loves his son and his wife. He also [[spoiler: deliberately [[spoiler:deliberately sold defective parts to the Air Force that got 21 pilots killed and framed his partner for it. Eventually, his justifications get broken down and he kills himself offstage at the end of the show]].



* ''Literature/ArcOfFire'': Wyre is absolutely devastated [[spoiler: at Kyrian's death. Myrren notes with surprise that she really did love him.]]

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* ''Literature/ArcOfFire'': Wyre is absolutely devastated [[spoiler: at [[spoiler:at Kyrian's death. Myrren notes with surprise that she really did love him.]]



** Mab and Titania, on the other hand, turn this into Even Neutral But Scary Psycho Fae Queens Have Loved Ones. [[spoiler: Titania hasn't forgiven Harry for killing her daughter Aurora - though she knows it was necessary. And Mab cannot bring herself to kill her own daughter Maeve for the same good reason.]]

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** Mab and Titania, on the other hand, turn this into Even Neutral But Scary Psycho Fae Queens Have Loved Ones. [[spoiler: Titania [[spoiler:Titania hasn't forgiven Harry for killing her daughter Aurora - though she knows it was necessary. And Mab cannot bring herself to kill her own daughter Maeve for the same good reason.]]



** Nicodemus and Tessa both care about their daughter Deirdre (though Nicodemus [[ParentalIncest expresses it very creepily]]) in spite of their collaboration with fallen angels and centuries of evil deeds. In ''Skin Game'' [[spoiler: Tessa tries to foil Nicodemus' plan because she knows it will require Deirdre's death, and Nicodemus loses it when Harry taunts him about how he killed his own daughter to complete the plan. Afterwards, the long estranged Nicodemus and Tessa apparently have a reconciliation where they, united in grief, try to work through it together by burning their enemy's family alive.]] They ''are'' still very evil.

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** Nicodemus and Tessa both care about their daughter Deirdre (though Nicodemus [[ParentalIncest expresses it very creepily]]) in spite of their collaboration with fallen angels and centuries of evil deeds. In ''Skin Game'' [[spoiler: Tessa [[spoiler:Tessa tries to foil Nicodemus' plan because she knows it will require Deirdre's death, and Nicodemus loses it when Harry taunts him about how he killed his own daughter to complete the plan. Afterwards, the long estranged Nicodemus and Tessa apparently have a reconciliation where they, united in grief, try to work through it together by burning their enemy's family alive.]] They ''are'' still very evil.



* ''Literature/LegacyOfTheDragokin:'' The Kthonian knights think of everyone else as worms to be squished but consider each other family. [[spoiler: Their leader is Kthonia's daughter and her desire to free her is as much a daughter's love as it is a villain's EvilPlan.]]

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* ''Literature/LegacyOfTheDragokin:'' The Kthonian knights think of everyone else as worms to be squished but consider each other family. [[spoiler: Their [[spoiler:Their leader is Kthonia's daughter and her desire to free her is as much a daughter's love as it is a villain's EvilPlan.]]



* [[AntiVillain Thaddeus]] [[BrokenAce Valentine]] from ''Literature/MortalEngines'' has his daughter Katherine who he truly loves and cares about. [[spoiler: When she throws herself on Valentine's sword to protect Hester, he is heartbroken and dies cradling her body as London blows up]].

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* [[AntiVillain Thaddeus]] [[BrokenAce Valentine]] from ''Literature/MortalEngines'' has his daughter Katherine who he truly loves and cares about. [[spoiler: When [[spoiler:When she throws herself on Valentine's sword to protect Hester, he is heartbroken and dies cradling her body as London blows up]].



* ''Literature/NightfallSeries'': Prince Vladimir loves Armida and Tristan to the point that he is willing to sacrifice himself for them [[spoiler: when the Resistance traps them all in the cave.]]

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* ''Literature/NightfallSeries'': Prince Vladimir loves Armida and Tristan to the point that he is willing to sacrifice himself for them [[spoiler: when [[spoiler:when the Resistance traps them all in the cave.]]



** [[spoiler: And this is what leads him in the end to question his villainy and defy the BigBad when he realizes he accidentally hurt Annabeth, leading him to be the one to save the world in the end. RedemptionEqualsDeath.]]

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** [[spoiler: And [[spoiler:And this is what leads him in the end to question his villainy and defy the BigBad when he realizes he accidentally hurt Annabeth, leading him to be the one to save the world in the end. RedemptionEqualsDeath.]]



* ''Literature/TheSilerianTrilogy'': Kiloran's one redeeming quality seems to be the fact he cares about his son, swearing revenge on Tansen [[spoiler: after he kills him.]]

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* ''Literature/TheSilerianTrilogy'': Kiloran's one redeeming quality seems to be the fact he cares about his son, swearing revenge on Tansen [[spoiler: after [[spoiler:after he kills him.]]



* ''Literature/SchooledInMagic'': [[spoiler: Aurelius]] has a daughter who he put [[HumanPopsicle into stasis]] to save her life. Her magic overwhelmed her and he'd been unable to find a cure. [[spoiler: He's devastated after she dies.]]

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* ''Literature/SchooledInMagic'': [[spoiler: Aurelius]] [[spoiler:Aurelius]] has a daughter who he put [[HumanPopsicle into stasis]] to save her life. Her magic overwhelmed her and he'd been unable to find a cure. [[spoiler: He's [[spoiler:He's devastated after she dies.]]



* In ''Literature/GentlemanBastard'', while [[TheDon Capa Barsavi]] is a ruthless crime kingpin and perfectly willing to torture subordinates to death or throw them to sharks, the death of [[spoiler: his daughter Nazca]] sends him into shocked grief.
** And [[spoiler: Capa Raza/The Grey King]] is even more ruthless, but his RoaringRampageOfRevenge is motivated by the loss of his family.

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* In ''Literature/GentlemanBastard'', while [[TheDon Capa Barsavi]] is a ruthless crime kingpin and perfectly willing to torture subordinates to death or throw them to sharks, the death of [[spoiler: his [[spoiler:his daughter Nazca]] sends him into shocked grief.
** And [[spoiler: Capa [[spoiler:Capa Raza/The Grey King]] is even more ruthless, but his RoaringRampageOfRevenge is motivated by the loss of his family.



* ''Series/{{Chuck}}'': Volkoff shows some hints of really loving his daughter Vivian. [[spoiler: It's not mutual]]. He also has a [[spoiler:loving mother, although since his personality was re-written, he doesn't know about her]].
* ''Series/TheCityHunter'': Each of [[BigBad The Five]] have family and loved ones they want to think well of them, the best example being [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Kim Shik-Jong]], who [[spoiler: opts to attempt suicide rather than drag his son down as well.]]

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* ''Series/{{Chuck}}'': Volkoff shows some hints of really loving his daughter Vivian. [[spoiler: It's [[spoiler:It's not mutual]]. He also has a [[spoiler:loving mother, although since his personality was re-written, he doesn't know about her]].
* ''Series/TheCityHunter'': Each of [[BigBad The Five]] have family and loved ones they want to think well of them, the best example being [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Kim Shik-Jong]], who [[spoiler: opts [[spoiler:opts to attempt suicide rather than drag his son down as well.]]



* ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'': In the series finale, it's made crystal clear that Hannibal indeed is [[spoiler: in love with Will. Despite having his freedom, Hannibal decides to help Will kill Dolarhyde, aka the Red Dragon, even at the risk of his own life.]] Considering how narcissistic and self-serving Hannibal is, this is a ''massive'' feat unto itself.

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* ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'': In the series finale, it's made crystal clear that Hannibal indeed is [[spoiler: in [[spoiler:in love with Will. Despite having his freedom, Hannibal decides to help Will kill Dolarhyde, aka the Red Dragon, even at the risk of his own life.]] Considering how narcissistic and self-serving Hannibal is, this is a ''massive'' feat unto itself.



** The rural Kentucky villains provide numerous examples of this trope. In season two, [[EvilMatriarch Mags Bennett]] used her three sons as henchmen and showed great warmth toward her adopted daughter, [[MoralityPet Loretta]]. [[spoiler: After the deaths of Coover and Doyle, Mags killed herself by drinking poisoned moonshine.]]

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** The rural Kentucky villains provide numerous examples of this trope. In season two, [[EvilMatriarch Mags Bennett]] used her three sons as henchmen and showed great warmth toward her adopted daughter, [[MoralityPet Loretta]]. [[spoiler: After [[spoiler:After the deaths of Coover and Doyle, Mags killed herself by drinking poisoned moonshine.]]



** Also in season three, Detroit mob lieutenant Robert Quarles has a wife and children back home. Quarles makes a point of talking to his son on the phone and mailing him postcards during his exile in Kentucky. Later in the season, however, as Quarles' schemes unravel and he plunges deeper into Oxycontin addiction, he ignores phone calls from his family. [[spoiler: After the Detroit mob cuts ties with Quarles]], Duffy suggests that Quarles go home. Quarles says that he has nowhere to go, suggesting that things may not be rosy at home.

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** Also in season three, Detroit mob lieutenant Robert Quarles has a wife and children back home. Quarles makes a point of talking to his son on the phone and mailing him postcards during his exile in Kentucky. Later in the season, however, as Quarles' schemes unravel and he plunges deeper into Oxycontin addiction, he ignores phone calls from his family. [[spoiler: After [[spoiler:After the Detroit mob cuts ties with Quarles]], Duffy suggests that Quarles go home. Quarles says that he has nowhere to go, suggesting that things may not be rosy at home.



* ''Series/OnceUponATime'': Regina/The Evil Queen loves her adopted son, Henry, and also her father (who was also named Henry). Mr. Gold/Rumplestiltskin cares deeply for his love, Belle, and also his son, Baelfire. [[spoiler: (He created the curse in an attempt to find the latter in the Land Without Magic.)]] Captain Hook also loved Milah, and was devastated when she was killed. And despite everything, it's revealed that Cora genuinely loved her daughter, Regina. sThe Dark Curse, [[spoiler: which is the curse Rumplestiltskin created to find Baelfire]], and is considered darkest magic in the show, is based on this trope. One of the ingredients for enacting it is the heart of the person you love most.
* ''Series/PowerRangersTimeForce'': Ransik, the BigBad, genuinely loved his daughter Nadira despite being a mutant terrorist. [[spoiler: This is what causes him to be one of the very few PowerRangers main villains to find redemption. Even better, it's RedemptionEarnsLife]]. For the record, [[spoiler:Ransik was ''winning'' his final battle with the Rangers. He was delivering a CurbStompBattle such as had never seen before in the entire franchise when he realized that his daughter had been wounded in the crossfire. He ''immediately'' surrendered to prevent her from being hurt further.]]

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* ''Series/OnceUponATime'': Regina/The Evil Queen loves her adopted son, Henry, and also her father (who was also named Henry). Mr. Gold/Rumplestiltskin cares deeply for his love, Belle, and also his son, Baelfire. [[spoiler: (He [[spoiler:(He created the curse in an attempt to find the latter in the Land Without Magic.)]] Captain Hook also loved Milah, and was devastated when she was killed. And despite everything, it's revealed that Cora genuinely loved her daughter, Regina. sThe Dark Curse, [[spoiler: which [[spoiler:which is the curse Rumplestiltskin created to find Baelfire]], and is considered darkest magic in the show, is based on this trope. One of the ingredients for enacting it is the heart of the person you love most.
* ''Series/PowerRangersTimeForce'': Ransik, the BigBad, genuinely loved his daughter Nadira despite being a mutant terrorist. [[spoiler: This [[spoiler:This is what causes him to be one of the very few PowerRangers main villains to find redemption. Even better, it's RedemptionEarnsLife]]. For the record, [[spoiler:Ransik was ''winning'' his final battle with the Rangers. He was delivering a CurbStompBattle such as had never seen before in the entire franchise when he realized that his daughter had been wounded in the crossfire. He ''immediately'' surrendered to prevent her from being hurt further.]]



** [[Creator/DavidLyons General Sebastian Monroe]], despite being the big bad guy, does have loved ones. [[spoiler: He was quite broken up over the deaths of his family, as "[[Recap/RevolutionS1E10NobodysFaultButMine Nobody's Fault But Mine]]" shows in a flashback. He latched on to Miles, but it turned into a borderline erotic obsession. In the episode "[[Recap/RevolutionS1E15Home Home]]", he was able to form enough of a connection to his old girlfriend Emma that he was quite upset over her death. That, and finding out that she gave birth to his son and sent him away to somewhere else left a strong impression on him. By "[[Recap/RevolutionS1E20TheDarkTower The Dark Tower]]", he is on the run from Tom Neville's coup and he will have plenty of time to try to locate his son]].

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** [[Creator/DavidLyons General Sebastian Monroe]], despite being the big bad guy, does have loved ones. [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He was quite broken up over the deaths of his family, as "[[Recap/RevolutionS1E10NobodysFaultButMine Nobody's Fault But Mine]]" shows in a flashback. He latched on to Miles, but it turned into a borderline erotic obsession. In the episode "[[Recap/RevolutionS1E15Home Home]]", he was able to form enough of a connection to his old girlfriend Emma that he was quite upset over her death. That, and finding out that she gave birth to his son and sent him away to somewhere else left a strong impression on him. By "[[Recap/RevolutionS1E20TheDarkTower The Dark Tower]]", he is on the run from Tom Neville's coup and he will have plenty of time to try to locate his son]].



** Gul Dukat has a half-Bajoran daughter, Tora Ziyal. He gives up his career, reputation, and marriage when he decides to live with her rather than murder her as he'd originally intended--however, his love for her is not strong enough to overcome his ambitions, and he's manipulative towards her as much as anyone else, with the goal of ensuring her love and trying to attain Kira through her. [[spoiler: He goes (more) insane with grief when she is killed.]]

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** Gul Dukat has a half-Bajoran daughter, Tora Ziyal. He gives up his career, reputation, and marriage when he decides to live with her rather than murder her as he'd originally intended--however, his love for her is not strong enough to overcome his ambitions, and he's manipulative towards her as much as anyone else, with the goal of ensuring her love and trying to attain Kira through her. [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He goes (more) insane with grief when she is killed.]]



** [[BigBad The Governor]] is megalomaniac proto-warlord, but he loved his daughter [[spoiler: which is why he keeps her locked in a closet after she becomes a Walker]].

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** [[BigBad The Governor]] is megalomaniac proto-warlord, but he loved his daughter [[spoiler: which [[spoiler:which is why he keeps her locked in a closet after she becomes a Walker]].



* ''Series/WynonnaEarp'' eventually reveals that this trope is the cause of the [[HereditaryCurse Earp Curse]]: [[spoiler: because Wyatt Earp killed the Stone Witch's sons, her demon husband laid the curse on Wyatt and all his descendants.]]

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* ''Series/WynonnaEarp'' eventually reveals that this trope is the cause of the [[HereditaryCurse Earp Curse]]: [[spoiler: because [[spoiler:because Wyatt Earp killed the Stone Witch's sons, her demon husband laid the curse on Wyatt and all his descendants.]]



** For that matter, CSM's "complicated" relationship with Mulder makes more sense when it's revealed that he is [[spoiler: quite possibly Mulder's biological father]].

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** For that matter, CSM's "complicated" relationship with Mulder makes more sense when it's revealed that he is [[spoiler: quite [[spoiler:quite possibly Mulder's biological father]].



** The Red Berets are also motivated to [[spoiler: let Snyder and the Bowman family leave after they're told they'll be left behind with their families when the rendition of LA takes place.]]

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** The Red Berets are also motivated to [[spoiler: let [[spoiler:let Snyder and the Bowman family leave after they're told they'll be left behind with their families when the rendition of LA takes place.]]



* The Franchise/EvilliousChronicles gives us [[HangingJudge Gallerian Marlon]], who sentenced to death everyone who wouldn't give him money. He was also a KnightTemplarParent for his [[WheelchairWoobie crippled daughter]]. [[spoiler: Who wasn't his daughter at all. She was a doll, who he thought was his daughter because the sorceress Ma tricked him into it after his real daughter was murdered.]]

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* The Franchise/EvilliousChronicles gives us [[HangingJudge Gallerian Marlon]], who sentenced to death everyone who wouldn't give him money. He was also a KnightTemplarParent for his [[WheelchairWoobie crippled daughter]]. [[spoiler: Who [[spoiler:Who wasn't his daughter at all. She was a doll, who he thought was his daughter because the sorceress Ma tricked him into it after his real daughter was murdered.]]



* The giant that Jack kills in ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods'' has a wife. [[spoiler: [[AvengingTheVillain Her revenge is the focus of act two.]] ]]

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* The giant that Jack kills in ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods'' has a wife. [[spoiler: [[AvengingTheVillain [[spoiler:[[AvengingTheVillain Her revenge is the focus of act two.]] ]]



** Darth Malgus is shown in supplementary materials to have once had a wife named Eleena Daru, who he loved with all his heart and vice versa. When Eleena was held hostage, Magus immediately surrendered to save her life. [[spoiler: This incident leads to him forcing himself to remorsefully kill her, as the Sith code holds that all personal attachments must be severed and his enemies would use her against him.]]

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** Darth Malgus is shown in supplementary materials to have once had a wife named Eleena Daru, who he loved with all his heart and vice versa. When Eleena was held hostage, Magus immediately surrendered to save her life. [[spoiler: This [[spoiler:This incident leads to him forcing himself to remorsefully kill her, as the Sith code holds that all personal attachments must be severed and his enemies would use her against him.]]



** ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPartnersInTime'': [[spoiler: Elder Princess Shroob may be [[BadBoss an absolutely ruthless leader who doesn't care a fig for her troops]], [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge but she cares about her little sister so much to the point that she before she attacks the heroes, she vows to get her revenge on the heroes for killing her]].]]

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** ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPartnersInTime'': [[spoiler: Elder [[spoiler:Elder Princess Shroob may be [[BadBoss an absolutely ruthless leader who doesn't care a fig for her troops]], [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge but she cares about her little sister so much to the point that she before she attacks the heroes, she vows to get her revenge on the heroes for killing her]].]]



** In ''VideoGame/{{Prototype 2}}'', James Heller was getting ready to kill [[spoiler: Colonel Rooks]] but spares him when he finds out the man has a family he cares deeply about.

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** In ''VideoGame/{{Prototype 2}}'', James Heller was getting ready to kill [[spoiler: Colonel [[spoiler:Colonel Rooks]] but spares him when he finds out the man has a family he cares deeply about.



* ''Franchise/MetalGear'': Revolver Ocelot [[ManipulativeBastard may be]] [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder one of the worst of the lot]], [[spoiler: but every single thing he did was out of love for Big Boss.]]

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* ''Franchise/MetalGear'': Revolver Ocelot [[ManipulativeBastard may be]] [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder one of the worst of the lot]], [[spoiler: but [[spoiler:but every single thing he did was out of love for Big Boss.]]



* Manfred von Karma in the ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney'' series is completely ruthless and will murder over the slightest insult, but as seen by the way he keeps making positive offhand remarks about them and how they turned out, he dotes on his wife, daughters, and even adopted son Edgeworth (actually the son of one of his enemies). [[spoiler: The Edgeworth part ends up downplayed, as Karma eventually has Edgeworth framed when he starts out turning out too much like his father, Manfred's aforementioned enemy.]]

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* Manfred von Karma in the ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney'' series is completely ruthless and will murder over the slightest insult, but as seen by the way he keeps making positive offhand remarks about them and how they turned out, he dotes on his wife, daughters, and even adopted son Edgeworth (actually the son of one of his enemies). [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The Edgeworth part ends up downplayed, as Karma eventually has Edgeworth framed when he starts out turning out too much like his father, Manfred's aforementioned enemy.]]



** Seems to be subverted in the game's custom night with [[spoiler: his son, Michael Afton, though. From the way Michael tells it, his father sent him to deal with the homicidal ghosts possessing the animatronics... and it didn't go well for Mike.]]
* Some of the [[BigBad main antagonists]] of the ''Franchise/FatalFrame'' series never harm a protagonist due to said protagonist resembling someone that the respective antagonist fell in love with while still alive. This includes [[spoiler: Kirie to [[IdenticalStranger Mafuyu]] in the first game and Ouse to [[IdenticalGrandson Ren]] in the fifth.]] Played with regarding Kyouka (a.k.a. Brushing Woman) to [[IdenticalStranger Kei]] in the third game, however, in that, while Kyouka loved Akito, [[StarCrossedLover she thought Akito had abandoned her (not knowing he was murdered for trying to take her away)]], and seeing the "return" of her "lover" angers her into attacking him.

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** Seems to be subverted in the game's custom night with [[spoiler: his [[spoiler:his son, Michael Afton, though. From the way Michael tells it, his father sent him to deal with the homicidal ghosts possessing the animatronics... and it didn't go well for Mike.]]
* Some of the [[BigBad main antagonists]] of the ''Franchise/FatalFrame'' series never harm a protagonist due to said protagonist resembling someone that the respective antagonist fell in love with while still alive. This includes [[spoiler: Kirie [[spoiler:Kirie to [[IdenticalStranger Mafuyu]] in the first game and Ouse to [[IdenticalGrandson Ren]] in the fifth.]] Played with regarding Kyouka (a.k.a. Brushing Woman) to [[IdenticalStranger Kei]] in the third game, however, in that, while Kyouka loved Akito, [[StarCrossedLover she thought Akito had abandoned her (not knowing he was murdered for trying to take her away)]], and seeing the "return" of her "lover" angers her into attacking him.



** General Tarquin, LawfulEvil father of Elan and Nale, plays with this. At first, it seems like he cares about his sons, but as [[WordOfGod The Giant]] says, this is very misleading. It's shown that Tarquin's love only goes as far as his assumed control of them; When he learns that Elan is fine being PluckyComicRelief and not TheHero, Tarquin's big idea is to kill Roy and the most of the Order so Elan can rise up, because if Elan's not the main hero, that means Tarquin's not the main villain. [[spoiler: When Nale kills Malack, and makes it clear that he wants nothing from his father, Tarquin kills him because Nale won't do as he's told -- he would have even forgiven killing Malack if Nale had been subservient.]]
** Tarquin's right-hand Malack lost three offspring in a revolution. Even years later, he wants to be a father again but can't find another true love and is unsure about adoption. He loves children so much, that he takes [[spoiler: Durkon and bites him to turn him into a new one]]. By the way, those three offspring? Nale killed them. [[YouKilledMyFather Malack has been out for Nale's blood]] ever since, and if not for Tarquin's intervention he would have had it by now.

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** General Tarquin, LawfulEvil father of Elan and Nale, plays with this. At first, it seems like he cares about his sons, but as [[WordOfGod The Giant]] says, this is very misleading. It's shown that Tarquin's love only goes as far as his assumed control of them; When he learns that Elan is fine being PluckyComicRelief and not TheHero, Tarquin's big idea is to kill Roy and the most of the Order so Elan can rise up, because if Elan's not the main hero, that means Tarquin's not the main villain. [[spoiler: When [[spoiler:When Nale kills Malack, and makes it clear that he wants nothing from his father, Tarquin kills him because Nale won't do as he's told -- he would have even forgiven killing Malack if Nale had been subservient.]]
** Tarquin's right-hand Malack lost three offspring in a revolution. Even years later, he wants to be a father again but can't find another true love and is unsure about adoption. He loves children so much, that he takes [[spoiler: Durkon [[spoiler:Durkon and bites him to turn him into a new one]]. By the way, those three offspring? Nale killed them. [[YouKilledMyFather Malack has been out for Nale's blood]] ever since, and if not for Tarquin's intervention he would have had it by now.



*** Nale is also willing to [[spoiler: attempt to fight barehanded against a vamped Durkon to protect Zz'dtri.]]

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*** Nale is also willing to [[spoiler: attempt [[spoiler:attempt to fight barehanded against a vamped Durkon to protect Zz'dtri.]]



** Deconstructed with Vriska's feelings for Tavros. Her confused feelings of love and poor social skills leads to her abusing and bullying him, expecting him to develop a backbone. Eventually [[spoiler: he ''does'' stand up to her, but only after she attempts something so bad that he can't stand by and allow it, leading to her killing him.]]
*** Played straight later on when Vriska enters a happy relationship with [[spoiler: the similarly jerkish Meenah]]. It's rather telling about both characters that the only genuine and healthy relationship they could find was [[spoiler: with someone who was also a borderline sociopath]].

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** Deconstructed with Vriska's feelings for Tavros. Her confused feelings of love and poor social skills leads to her abusing and bullying him, expecting him to develop a backbone. Eventually [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he ''does'' stand up to her, but only after she attempts something so bad that he can't stand by and allow it, leading to her killing him.]]
*** Played straight later on when Vriska enters a happy relationship with [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the similarly jerkish Meenah]]. It's rather telling about both characters that the only genuine and healthy relationship they could find was [[spoiler: with [[spoiler:with someone who was also a borderline sociopath]].



** Clio Gabriella: murderess, psychopath, and just really wanted everyone else on the island dead...except for her boyfriend, Simon Telamon, who she'd been searching for since the beginning of the game, and truly believed that even though the [[ThereCanOnlyBeOne premise of Survival of the Fittest]] really didn't allow for anything past the next week, that they could be together. [[spoiler: Ultimately, he accidentally distracts her once they do meet and she's shot right in front of him. [[AlasPoorVillain She crawls to him, begging for him to save her even though she knows fully well she's beyond saving, and dies in his arms.]]]]

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** Clio Gabriella: murderess, psychopath, and just really wanted everyone else on the island dead...except for her boyfriend, Simon Telamon, who she'd been searching for since the beginning of the game, and truly believed that even though the [[ThereCanOnlyBeOne premise of Survival of the Fittest]] really didn't allow for anything past the next week, that they could be together. [[spoiler: Ultimately, [[spoiler:Ultimately, he accidentally distracts her once they do meet and she's shot right in front of him. [[AlasPoorVillain She crawls to him, begging for him to save her even though she knows fully well she's beyond saving, and dies in his arms.]]]]



** This also counts for several members of [[TheFairFolk the Third Race]], even if they tend to be more chaotic than straightforwardly villainous. Oberon and Titania [[HappilyMarried clearly care about each other]], and Titania also has a good relationship with [[spoiler:her daughter Fox]], at least before she started scheming. [[spoiler: Puck]], likewise, is an HonoraryUncle in the Xanatos family. The Weird Sisters, who may have been the real Big Bads of the series, considered Demona and Macbeth "our responsibility" and "our children" (or claimed to, at least).

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** This also counts for several members of [[TheFairFolk the Third Race]], even if they tend to be more chaotic than straightforwardly villainous. Oberon and Titania [[HappilyMarried clearly care about each other]], and Titania also has a good relationship with [[spoiler:her daughter Fox]], at least before she started scheming. [[spoiler: Puck]], [[spoiler:Puck]], likewise, is an HonoraryUncle in the Xanatos family. The Weird Sisters, who may have been the real Big Bads of the series, considered Demona and Macbeth "our responsibility" and "our children" (or claimed to, at least).



** The Warden of the Boiling Rock values his prison's reputation above everything else, but he also loves his niece, Mai. [[spoiler: He's angry at Zuko for breaking up with her, but when she facilitates an escape from his prized prison and was arrested, he pulled some strings to help in hers and Ty Lee's release]].
** This trope is the sole reason [[spoiler: Zuko took so very long to perform his HeelFaceTurn. He loved his father and wanted nothing more than to return to when his family was happy together.]]

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** The Warden of the Boiling Rock values his prison's reputation above everything else, but he also loves his niece, Mai. [[spoiler: He's [[spoiler:He's angry at Zuko for breaking up with her, but when she facilitates an escape from his prized prison and was arrested, he pulled some strings to help in hers and Ty Lee's release]].
** This trope is the sole reason [[spoiler: Zuko [[spoiler:Zuko took so very long to perform his HeelFaceTurn. He loved his father and wanted nothing more than to return to when his family was happy together.]]



** And then there's their father, [[spoiler: Yakone, who despite his cruelty ended up in a northern water tribe,]] with a wife who loved him just as much as he loved her.

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** And then there's their father, [[spoiler: Yakone, [[spoiler:Yakone, who despite his cruelty ended up in a northern water tribe,]] with a wife who loved him just as much as he loved her.



* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', Chester "Snake Jailbird" Turley might be one of the most well-known criminals on the show, often taking actions dealing with convenience stores [[spoiler: thanks to Moe stealing Mayan coin Snake had found while working as an archaeologist and planned on given them to a museum]], but hes surprisingly a good father towards his son, Jeremy, even if it means sharing his 'current' business.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', Chester "Snake Jailbird" Turley might be one of the most well-known criminals on the show, often taking actions dealing with convenience stores [[spoiler: thanks [[spoiler:thanks to Moe stealing Mayan coin Snake had found while working as an archaeologist and planned on given them to a museum]], but hes surprisingly a good father towards his son, Jeremy, even if it means sharing his 'current' business.



* BigBad Nerissa truly loves [[spoiler: her son, [[RebelLeader Caleb,]]]] in ''WesternAnimation/{{WITCH}}''. She never outright attacks him, and even tries to keep him from harm's way on more than one occasion.

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* BigBad Nerissa truly loves [[spoiler: her [[spoiler:her son, [[RebelLeader Caleb,]]]] in ''WesternAnimation/{{WITCH}}''. She never outright attacks him, and even tries to keep him from harm's way on more than one occasion.



* The Diamonds of ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' may be [[EvilMatriarch Evil]] [[GalacticConqueror Galactic]] [[EvilOverlord Overlords]], [[spoiler: but they also clearly care deeply for one another, as shown with Blue Diamond's 5000-year long depression after the loss of [[TheLostLenore Pink Diamond]] and Yellow Diamond's attempts to help Blue with her grieving, which also highlights how much Yellow herself still grieves for Pink Diamond.]]

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* The Diamonds of ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' may be [[EvilMatriarch Evil]] [[GalacticConqueror Galactic]] [[EvilOverlord Overlords]], [[spoiler: but [[spoiler:but they also clearly care deeply for one another, as shown with Blue Diamond's 5000-year long depression after the loss of [[TheLostLenore Pink Diamond]] and Yellow Diamond's attempts to help Blue with her grieving, which also highlights how much Yellow herself still grieves for Pink Diamond.]]
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