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29th Aug '16 6:03:36 PM Basileus
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** The Unlimited Blade Works route brings up the darker side of this with [[spoiler: Servant Archer - Heroic Spirit EMIYA]]. In addition to the great heroes of myth and legend, there are also the unsung heroes who were not BornLucky enough to have anything like divine blessings or artifacts. Because these heroes are not famed and revered enough to properly ascend to the Throne of Heroes, but are still Heroic Spirits, they serve as Counter Guardians that protect humankind from existential threats. However the Counter Force only summons Guardians once a situation has truly gone to Hell and there is no other way to avert disaster. In order to eliminate the threat, which is often human in origin, the Guardians are tasked with killing everything in the vicinity, [[TheNeedsOfTheMany sacrificing even the victims to ensure that the threat humankind as a whole is completely eradicated]]. While never actually seen in the game [[spoiler: being unable to save the people suffering before his eye every time he is summoned is what led Archer over the DespairEventHorizon and led him to want to kill his own past self to try and erase his own eternal existence via TemporalParadox. Luckily, thanks to the efforts of Rin and Shirou, he rekindles the fire that used to drive him and in the end he assures Rin with a smile that he will be okay filling his role as an EternalHero from now on]].

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** The Unlimited Blade Works route brings up the darker side of this with [[spoiler: Servant Archer - Heroic Spirit EMIYA]]. In addition to the great heroes of myth and legend, there are also the unsung heroes who were not BornLucky enough to have anything like divine blessings or artifacts. Because these heroes are not famed and revered enough to properly ascend to the Throne of Heroes, but are still Heroic Spirits, they serve as Counter Guardians that protect humankind from existential threats. However the Counter Force only summons Guardians once a situation has truly gone to Hell and there is no other way to avert disaster. In order to eliminate the threat, which is often human in origin, the Guardians are tasked with killing everything in the vicinity, [[TheNeedsOfTheMany sacrificing even the victims to ensure that the threat to humankind as a whole is completely eradicated]]. While never actually seen in the game [[spoiler: being unable to save the people suffering before his eye eyes every time he is summoned is what led put Archer over across the DespairEventHorizon and led him to want to kill his own past self to try and erase his own eternal existence via TemporalParadox. Luckily, thanks to the efforts of Rin and Shirou, he rekindles the fire that used to drive him and in the end he assures Rin with a smile that he will be okay filling his role as an EternalHero from now on]].
29th Aug '16 6:00:38 PM Basileus
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* ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' gives us the Throne of Heroes and the Heroic Spirits. They are heroes (such as Heracles and Cu Chulainn) were idolized to the point that their legends transcended time and remain even centuries after their deaths. This can also affect heroes that never truly existed, such as [[spoiler: False Assassin, ''UsefulNotes/SasakiKojiro'', who is really just a "wraith", a type of spirit, that happens to closely resemble the myth]]. What makes these heroes eternal is that the Throne of Heroes is a metaphysical place removed from time where the most splendid souls of the era are preserved to be called upon in any time period [[spoiler: even from the future]].
** The Unlimited Blade Works route shows the darker side of this with [[spoiler: Servant Archer - Heroic Spirit EMIYA]]. In addition to the great heroes of myth and legend, there are also the unsung heroes who were not BornLucky enough to have anything like divine blessings or artifacts. Because these heroes are not famed and revered enough to properly ascend to the Throne of Heroes, but are still Heroic Spirits, they serve as Counter Guardians, summoned by the Counter Force to protect humankind from existential threats. The downside to the "eternal" part is that there is no end to the threats and that most of the threats to humanity happen to humans themselves, so the primary duty of the guardians ends up being to mercilessly kill anyone in the target zone to end the threat, sacrificing even the victims at the scene for TheNeedsOfTheMany. This causes [[spoiler: Archer to try and kill his own past self just for the miniscule chance that it might erase his existence via TemporalParadox and end his torment]].

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* ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' gives us the Throne of Heroes and the Heroic Spirits. They are heroes (such as Heracles and Cu Chulainn) who were idolized to the point that their legends transcended time and remain even centuries after their deaths. This can also affect heroes that never truly existed, such as [[spoiler: False Assassin, ''UsefulNotes/SasakiKojiro'', who is really just a "wraith", a type of spirit, that happens to closely resemble the myth]]. What makes these heroes eternal is that the Throne of Heroes is a metaphysical place removed from time where the most splendid souls of the era are preserved to be called upon in any time period [[spoiler: even from the future]].
** The Unlimited Blade Works route shows brings up the darker side of this with [[spoiler: Servant Archer - Heroic Spirit EMIYA]]. In addition to the great heroes of myth and legend, there are also the unsung heroes who were not BornLucky enough to have anything like divine blessings or artifacts. Because these heroes are not famed and revered enough to properly ascend to the Throne of Heroes, but are still Heroic Spirits, they serve as Counter Guardians, summoned by the Counter Force to Guardians that protect humankind from existential threats. The downside to However the "eternal" part is that Counter Force only summons Guardians once a situation has truly gone to Hell and there is no end other way to the threats and that most of the threats avert disaster. In order to humanity happen to humans themselves, so the primary duty of the guardians ends up being to mercilessly kill anyone in the target zone to end eliminate the threat, which is often human in origin, the Guardians are tasked with killing everything in the vicinity, [[TheNeedsOfTheMany sacrificing even the victims at to ensure that the scene for TheNeedsOfTheMany. This causes threat humankind as a whole is completely eradicated]]. While never actually seen in the game [[spoiler: being unable to save the people suffering before his eye every time he is summoned is what led Archer to try over the DespairEventHorizon and led him to want to kill his own past self just for the miniscule chance that it might to try and erase his own eternal existence via TemporalParadox TemporalParadox. Luckily, thanks to the efforts of Rin and Shirou, he rekindles the fire that used to drive him and in the end he assures Rin with a smile that he will be okay filling his torment]].role as an EternalHero from now on]].
29th Aug '16 5:49:32 PM Basileus
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* ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' gives us the Throne of Heroes and the Heroic Spirits. They are heroes (such as Heracles and Cu Chulainn) were idolized to the point that their legends transcended time and remain even centuries after their deaths. This can also affect heroes that never truly existed, such as [[spoiler: False Assassin [[''UsefulNotes/SasakiKojiro'' Sasaski Kojiro]] who is really just a "wraith", a type of spirit, that happens to closely resemble the myth]]. What makes these heroes eternal is that the Throne of Heroes is a metaphysical place removed from time where the most splendid souls of the era are preserved to be called upon in any time period [[spoiler: even from the future]].

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* ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' gives us the Throne of Heroes and the Heroic Spirits. They are heroes (such as Heracles and Cu Chulainn) were idolized to the point that their legends transcended time and remain even centuries after their deaths. This can also affect heroes that never truly existed, such as [[spoiler: False Assassin [[''UsefulNotes/SasakiKojiro'' Sasaski Kojiro]] Assassin, ''UsefulNotes/SasakiKojiro'', who is really just a "wraith", a type of spirit, that happens to closely resemble the myth]]. What makes these heroes eternal is that the Throne of Heroes is a metaphysical place removed from time where the most splendid souls of the era are preserved to be called upon in any time period [[spoiler: even from the future]].
29th Aug '16 5:48:21 PM Basileus
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** The Unlimited Blade Works route shows the darker side of this with [[spoiler: Servant Archer - Heroic Spirit EMIYA]]. In addition to the great heroes of myth and legend, there are also the unsung heroes who were not BornLucky enough to have anything like divine blessings or artifacts. Because these heroes are not famed and revered enough to properly ascend to the Throne of Heroes, but are still Heroic Spirits, they serve as Counter Guardians, summoned by the Counter Force to protect humankind from existential threats. The downside to the "eternal" part is that there is no end to the threats and that most of the threats to humanity happen to humans themselves, so the primary duty of the guardians ends up being to mercilessly kill anyone in the target zone to end the threat, sacrificing even the victims at the scene ForTheNeedsOfTheMany. This causes [[spoiler: Archer to try and kill his own past self just for the miniscule chance that it might erase his existence via TemporalParadox and end his torment]].

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** The Unlimited Blade Works route shows the darker side of this with [[spoiler: Servant Archer - Heroic Spirit EMIYA]]. In addition to the great heroes of myth and legend, there are also the unsung heroes who were not BornLucky enough to have anything like divine blessings or artifacts. Because these heroes are not famed and revered enough to properly ascend to the Throne of Heroes, but are still Heroic Spirits, they serve as Counter Guardians, summoned by the Counter Force to protect humankind from existential threats. The downside to the "eternal" part is that there is no end to the threats and that most of the threats to humanity happen to humans themselves, so the primary duty of the guardians ends up being to mercilessly kill anyone in the target zone to end the threat, sacrificing even the victims at the scene ForTheNeedsOfTheMany.for TheNeedsOfTheMany. This causes [[spoiler: Archer to try and kill his own past self just for the miniscule chance that it might erase his existence via TemporalParadox and end his torment]].
29th Aug '16 5:47:33 PM Basileus
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* Then there are the Heroic Spirits from ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''. They are heroes (such as Heracles and Cu Chulainn) whose legend transcended time, so they can be summoned to any point in the world timeline.

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* Then there are ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' gives us the Throne of Heroes and the Heroic Spirits from ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''. Spirits. They are heroes (such as Heracles and Cu Chulainn) whose legend were idolized to the point that their legends transcended time, so time and remain even centuries after their deaths. This can also affect heroes that never truly existed, such as [[spoiler: False Assassin [[''UsefulNotes/SasakiKojiro'' Sasaski Kojiro]] who is really just a "wraith", a type of spirit, that happens to closely resemble the myth]]. What makes these heroes eternal is that the Throne of Heroes is a metaphysical place removed from time where the most splendid souls of the era are preserved to be called upon in any time period [[spoiler: even from the future]].
** The Unlimited Blade Works route shows the darker side of this with [[spoiler: Servant Archer - Heroic Spirit EMIYA]]. In addition to the great heroes of myth and legend, there are also the unsung heroes who were not BornLucky enough to have anything like divine blessings or artifacts. Because these heroes are not famed and revered enough to properly ascend to the Throne of Heroes, but are still Heroic Spirits,
they can be serve as Counter Guardians, summoned by the Counter Force to any point protect humankind from existential threats. The downside to the "eternal" part is that there is no end to the threats and that most of the threats to humanity happen to humans themselves, so the primary duty of the guardians ends up being to mercilessly kill anyone in the world timeline.target zone to end the threat, sacrificing even the victims at the scene ForTheNeedsOfTheMany. This causes [[spoiler: Archer to try and kill his own past self just for the miniscule chance that it might erase his existence via TemporalParadox and end his torment]].
30th Jul '16 10:54:26 PM RavenWilder
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* On ''Series/{{The 100}}'', everyone who has ever been Commander (going back to the FounderOfTheKingdom) fulfills this trope. When they die, their personalities are downloaded onto the Flame, a miniature computer that's integrated with their brain. The Flame is then put into the head of the next Commander, giving them access to their predecessors' knowledge, and allowing the past Commanders to guide the new Commander's actions.
20th Jul '16 8:49:29 AM zeroblade386
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** ''ComicBook/SupermanRedSon'' shows that universe's Superman living far into the future, and reveals that [[spoiler: he is actually the distant descendant of Lex Luthor, whose descendants were similarly super geniuses who lead humanity through millions of years until humans evolved into Kryptonians and the house of Luthor became the House of El. At the end of the story, the baby Kal-El is sent back in time, where he opposes Lex and causes the foundation of Luthor's accomplishments.]]

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** ''ComicBook/SupermanRedSon'' shows that universe's Superman living far into the future, and reveals that [[spoiler: he is actually the distant descendant of Lex Luthor, whose descendants were similarly super geniuses who lead humanity through millions of years until humans evolved into Kryptonians and the house of Luthor became the House of El. L. At the end of the story, the baby Kal-El Kal-L is sent back in time, where he opposes Lex and causes the foundation of Luthor's accomplishments.]]
21st May '16 12:27:49 AM rockmanx
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16th Apr '16 2:46:59 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Music/{{Gloryhammer}}: Both [[TheHermit Ralathor]] and [[TheAhnold HOOTSMAN]] are apparently immortal. No explanation is given for Ralathor, aside from his being a "Mysterious Hermit". HOOTSMAN is explicitly mentioned as being immortal, though it's not explained if he became thus before or after he became a [[{{Cyborg}} cyborg powered by a Neutron Star.]]
11th Mar '16 11:09:10 AM StFan
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-->Music/DJShadow, -->-- '''Music/DJShadow''', "Outsider Intro"






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* ''ComicBook/ThePhantom'', or rather, [[LegacyImmortality his family]], has been fighting international piracy for some three hundred years under the guise of being the same man. One of comics' {{Ur Example}}s.



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* ''ComicStrip/ThePhantom'', or rather, [[LegacyImmortality his family]], has been fighting international piracy for some three hundred years under the guise of being the same man. One of comics' {{Ur Example}}s.
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* Creator/TerryPratchett parodies it in the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/TheLastContinent'', where Death speculates that Rincewind is a counterbalance to this, the "Coward with a thousand retreating backs". Discworld also gives us another parody, the octogenarian warrior-hero Cohen the Barbarian, who "[[BadassGrandpa has a lifetime's experience of not dying]]". Discworld also plays the trope straight with BadassGrandpa Lu-Tze, who's a 900-year-old member of a monastic TimePolice. Also perhaps Sam Vimes since ''Discworld/{{Thud}}'': his possession by the [[EldritchAbomination Summoning Dark]] and his resulting special abilities seem to be turning him into an eternal policeman, which can be seen in ''Discworld/{{Snuff}}''.

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* ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'':
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Creator/TerryPratchett parodies it in the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/TheLastContinent'', where Death speculates that Rincewind is a counterbalance to this, the "Coward with a thousand retreating backs". Discworld backs".
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also plays the trope straight with BadassGrandpa Lu-Tze, who's a 900-year-old member of a monastic TimePolice. TimePolice.
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Also perhaps Sam Vimes since ''Discworld/{{Thud}}'': his possession by the [[EldritchAbomination Summoning Dark]] and his resulting special abilities seem to be turning him into an eternal policeman, which can be seen in ''Discworld/{{Snuff}}''.



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* In the ''Series/KamenRiderDecade'' movie, [[Series/KamenRider Kamen Rider 1]] claims that for as long as they are needed, there will always be Riders to fight evil.
** It's further expanded on in the 40th Anniversary Movie Let's Go Kamen Riders. As long as people remember the Riders, they will live forever, ensuring the safety of the world for all.

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* ''Franchise/KamenRider'':
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In the ''Series/KamenRiderDecade'' movie, [[Series/KamenRider Kamen Rider 1]] claims that for as long as they are needed, there will always be Riders to fight evil.
** It's further expanded on in the 40th Anniversary Movie Let's ''Let's Go Kamen Riders.Riders''. As long as people remember the Riders, they will live forever, ensuring the safety of the world for all.



-->''But in the darkest hour''
-->''Whispers begin to tell of a figure emerging from the darkness''
-->''A being without a name, faceless and obscure''
-->''Part presence, part idea they say''
-->''As if the very force they describe has existed for eons''
-->''A dormant seed awaiting nourishment''

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-->''But in the darkest hour''
-->''Whispers
hour\\
Whispers
begin to tell of a figure emerging from the darkness''
-->''A
darkness\\
A
being without a name, faceless and obscure''
-->''Part
obscure\\
Part
presence, part idea they say''
-->''As
say\\
As
if the very force they describe has existed for eons''
-->''A
eons\\
A
dormant seed awaiting nourishment''



* TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} has several - or, at least, several great heroes from its history are reputed to have returned several times in this manner. Sigmar Heldenhammer is perhaps the most prominent - Magnus the Pious and Valten being two individuals who are sometimes whispered to have been Sigmar himself returned among the people of Sigmar's Empire. Gilles le Breton, founder of Bretonnia, is said to have returned as the Green Knight - an immortal spirit-protector bound to his land forever. Even Aenarion the Defender - first Phoenix King of the High Elves - is thought by some (including his second wife Morathi!) to have returned in the form of his distant descendent Prince Tyrion.

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* TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' has several - -- or, at least, several great heroes from its history are reputed to have returned several times in this manner. Sigmar Heldenhammer is perhaps the most prominent - -- Magnus the Pious and Valten being two individuals who are sometimes whispered to have been Sigmar himself returned among the people of Sigmar's Empire. Gilles le Breton, founder of Bretonnia, is said to have returned as the Green Knight - -- an immortal spirit-protector bound to his land forever. Even Aenarion the Defender - first Phoenix King of the High Elves - -- is thought by some (including his second wife Morathi!) to have returned in the form of his distant descendent Prince Tyrion.



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