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11th Dec '17 1:27:38 PM MasterFuzzy
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** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E6TheKeeperOfTraken "The Keeper of Traken"]], anyone who is evil and winds up on the planet becomes imprisoned in a stone form called a "melkur" by the anti-evil effects of the area (ItMakesSenseInContext). "Melkur" is their word for a fly trapped in honey. To be freed, all you have to do is ''not be evil anymore.'' Once your heart changes, you're free. Naturally, The Master had been stuck for a good long while. [[spoiler:''Not''. The Melkur is ''really'' his TARDIS, whose chameleon circuit works just fine. He's been free and able to orchestrate the evilness that had been going on all along. He probably avoided actually becoming a melkur by staying inside and moving it wherever he needed to be, as the melkur was sometimes seen to move.]]

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** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E6TheKeeperOfTraken "The Keeper of Traken"]], anyone who is evil and winds up on the planet becomes imprisoned in a stone form called a "melkur" by the anti-evil effects of the area (ItMakesSenseInContext). "Melkur" is their word for a fly trapped in honey. To be freed, all you have to do is ''not be evil anymore.'' Once your heart changes, you're free. Naturally, The Master had been stuck for a good long while. [[spoiler:''Not''. The Melkur is ''really'' his TARDIS, whose chameleon circuit works just fine. He's been free and able to orchestrate the evilness that had been going on all along. He probably avoided actually becoming a melkur by staying inside and moving it wherever he needed to be, as the melkur Melkur was sometimes seen to move.]]



'''The Doctor:''' Yes.\\

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'''The Doctor:''' [[BluntYes Yes.\\]]\\



'''The Doctor:''' Yes.
** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E11HeavenSent "Heaven Sent"]] the Doctor is teleported into the confession dial seen earlier in the series. Its interior is a series of puzzle rooms with strange clues that suggest the presence of other prisoners, yet the Doctor also notes that many of their elements seem designed to intimidate him, including the veiled monster that constantly shuffles after him. Eventually, he realizes that, for billions of years, he's been using the teleporter to create duplicates of himself as he first arrived in the dial. And then repeats the process.

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'''The Doctor:''' Yes.
[[DeadpanSnarker Yes.]]
** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E11HeavenSent "Heaven Sent"]] the Doctor is teleported into the confession dial seen earlier in the series. Its interior is a series of puzzle rooms with strange clues that suggest the presence of other prisoners, yet the Doctor also notes that many of their elements seem designed to intimidate him, including the veiled monster that constantly shuffles after him. Eventually, he realizes that, [[spoiler: for billions of years, he's been using the teleporter to create duplicates of himself as he first arrived in the dial. And then repeats the process.]]



* Clinical depression and anxiety disorders superficially appear to be this, in that there is nothing physically constraining your actions other than apathy or fear. However, since EpiphanyTherapy doesn't work in real life and it often has medical causes, alot of harm can be done by people who insist that someone depressed just has to get over it. [[ZigZaggedTrope On the other hand,]] people who are depressed or dealing with anxiety have to learn to function despite the feelings. So while the illusion doesn't go away, recognizing it as such helps.

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* Clinical depression and anxiety disorders superficially appear to be this, in that there is nothing physically constraining your actions other than apathy or fear. However, since EpiphanyTherapy doesn't work in real life and it often has medical causes, alot a lot of harm can be done by people who insist that someone depressed just has to get over it. [[ZigZaggedTrope On the other hand,]] people who are depressed or dealing with anxiety have to learn to function despite the feelings. So while the illusion doesn't go away, recognizing it as such helps.
22nd Aug '17 7:58:38 AM SeptimusHeap
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* Invoked in the mildest possible manner in a JohnByrne story from around 2000 about the Golden Age Flash. The Fiddler has trapped the Flash inside a ring of violins which vibrate to counter his speed. No matter how fast he runs, or what frequency he vibrates at, they throw him back into the center of the ring. Someone who has been trapped in there before eventually shouts the solution to him: [[spoiler: He can ''walk'' out just fine.]]

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* Invoked in the mildest possible manner in a JohnByrne Creator/JohnByrne story from around 2000 about the Golden Age Flash. The Fiddler has trapped the Flash inside a ring of violins which vibrate to counter his speed. No matter how fast he runs, or what frequency he vibrates at, they throw him back into the center of the ring. Someone who has been trapped in there before eventually shouts the solution to him: [[spoiler: He can ''walk'' out just fine.]]
11th Aug '17 10:22:17 PM wingedcatgirl
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* One of these is part of the defenses of Girard's Gate. It traps people in an illusion of their 'perfect world', and the way to escape is to understand that it's not real. [[spoiler: When the Order of the Stick gets trapped in it, Elan frees them when he admits that his dream, of his family reunited, is childish and could never happen, because his father and brother are evil. Nale later gets caught in it, and escapes when he realizes that his BondVillainStupidity (spending an hour describing his evil plan to Elan and Haley) is having no negative consequences.]]

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* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'': One of these is part of the defenses of Girard's Gate. It traps people in an illusion of their 'perfect world', and the way to escape is to understand that it's not real. [[spoiler: When the Order of the Stick gets trapped in it, Elan frees them when he admits that his dream, of his family reunited, is childish and could never happen, because his father and brother are evil. Nale later gets caught in it, and escapes when he realizes that his BondVillainStupidity (spending an hour describing his evil plan to Elan and Haley) is having no negative consequences.]]
14th Jun '17 9:22:52 AM Racheakt
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* Invoked interestingly in ''[[FanFic/{{Bird}} Bird]]'', a long-running theme of inversion of the source material's motif of physical and authoritive threats means that ultimately most patients at Alchemilla are kept there by their own fears and insecurities. As superpowered humans that are mostly voluntarily institutionalised, the majority can leave at any time they choose. Part of Taylor's journey is realizing she has to- both to protect her friends who ''can't'' leave voluntarily and to grow herself.
5th Jun '17 12:56:56 PM Taxima
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* In ''VideoGame/BrutalLegend'', the first group Eddie recruits into the new army are prisoners toiling in a mine. Lars explains that there is no gate or restraints on the men because they have no knowledge of life outside of the mine, the only thing they know how to do is hit things with their heads, so they stay underground. Eddie introduces the Headbangers to heavy metal to inspire them to reject their slavery.
1st Jun '17 8:02:02 PM nombretomado
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* WhiteWolf has a few properties that deal with this sort of narrative.

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* WhiteWolf Creator/WhiteWolf has a few properties that deal with this sort of narrative.
22nd Apr '17 1:04:44 PM nighttrainfm
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** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E6TheKeeperOfTraken "The Keeper of Traken"]], anyone who is evil and winds up on the planet becomes imprisoned in a stone form called a "melkur" by the anti-evil effects of the area (ItMakesSenseInContext). "Melkur" is their word for a fly trapped in honey. To be freed, all you have to do is ''not be evil anymore.'' Once your heart changes, you're free. Naturally, The Master had been stuck for a good long while. [[spoiler:''Not''. The Melkur is ''really'' his TARDIS, whose chameleon circuit works just fine. He's been free and able to orchestrate the evilness that had been going on all along. He probably avoided actually becoming a melkur by staying inside and moving it wherever he needed to be, as the melkur was sometimes seen to move.]]



** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E6TheKeeperOfTraken "The Keeper of Traken"]], anyone who is evil and winds up on the planet becomes imprisoned in a stone form called a "melkur" by the anti-evil effects of the area (ItMakesSenseInContext). "Melkur" is their word for a fly trapped in honey. To be freed, all you have to do is ''not be evil anymore.'' Once your heart changes, you're free. Naturally, The Master had been stuck for a good long while. [[spoiler:''Not''. The Melkur is ''really'' his TARDIS, whose chameleon circuit works just fine. He's been free and able to orchestrate the evilness that had been going on all along. He probably avoided actually becoming a melkur by staying inside and moving it wherever he needed to be, as the melkur was sometimes seen to move.]]
5th Apr '17 8:37:06 AM Jgamer
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** Mementos, the Palace of the Collective Unconscious, manifests as a giant prison, symbolic of everyone feels constrained by the civil order, but are too afraid or uncaring to do anything about it. Fitting with the SevenDeadlySins motif of the game, they collectively represent the sin of Sloth.
3rd Mar '17 7:12:39 AM Couran
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** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E11HeavenSent "Heaven Sent"]] the Doctor is teleported into the confession dial seen earlier in the series. Its interior is a series of puzzle rooms with strange clues that suggest the presence of other prisoners, yet the Doctor also notes that many of their elements seem designed to intimidate him, including the veiled monster that constantly shuffles after him. Eventually, he realizes that, for thousands of years, he's been using the teleporter to create duplicates of himself as he first arrived in the dial. And then repeats the process.

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** In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E11HeavenSent "Heaven Sent"]] the Doctor is teleported into the confession dial seen earlier in the series. Its interior is a series of puzzle rooms with strange clues that suggest the presence of other prisoners, yet the Doctor also notes that many of their elements seem designed to intimidate him, including the veiled monster that constantly shuffles after him. Eventually, he realizes that, for thousands billions of years, he's been using the teleporter to create duplicates of himself as he first arrived in the dial. And then repeats the process.
24th Feb '17 3:21:19 AM Alcyius
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* In [[Creater/PiersAnthony Piers Anthony's]] ''Literature/BearingAnHourglass'', Norton is [[spoiler:trapped by Lucifer in fantasy world and a science fiction world, supposedly in an Anti-Matter Galaxy where time flows backwards like Norton does (As the Incarnation of Time, Norton moves backwards in Time, as he has to know when things need fixed). He knows it's a trap, but he wasn't sure if it was all in his mind. At one point, he came to a room where each of his companions in the fantasy world could be possessed by a strange force, and are compelled to answer his questions. After one of his companions, an alien, tells him something that he himself did not know, he realizes it isn't a dream. Next, he came to a room with three individuals, a King who offers power, even over the Anti-Matter Galaxy, a woman who offers him all the riches in it, and a young, irreverent boy, who tells him that there is no Anti-Matter Galaxy. After this, he comes to a room showing him the entire Universe, and goes back and forth through all of time, seeing it start as dead dust, eventually collapsing into a single point at its end. With those three revelations, he realizes that Satan had placed an illusion on his Hourglass, making him think he was still going backwards in time, and upon exiting, the entire fantasy world was revealed to be Satan's Movie Studios.]]
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