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15th Apr '17 1:10:49 PM nombretomado
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* Commonly features in Creator/HarryTurtledove works; for example, in the [[Literature/Timeline191 TL-191]] series, Sergeant Michael Pound (a {{Tuckerization}} of fellow author SMStirling) repeatedly has to successively shepherd several inexperienced second lieutenants in command of a tank unit. He's quite bemused when he eventually gets one who's both gung-ho and competent to start with.

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* Commonly features in Creator/HarryTurtledove works; for example, in the [[Literature/Timeline191 TL-191]] series, Sergeant Michael Pound (a {{Tuckerization}} of fellow author SMStirling) Creator/SMStirling) repeatedly has to successively shepherd several inexperienced second lieutenants in command of a tank unit. He's quite bemused when he eventually gets one who's both gung-ho and competent to start with.
14th Apr '17 6:22:45 PM maxwellsilver
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->''' ''Unteroffizer'' Manfred "Rollo" Rohleder:''' Is this your first time at [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII the front]]?\\

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->''' ''Unteroffizer'' Manfred "Rollo" Rohleder:''' Is this your first time at [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII the front]]?\\front?\\
8th Feb '17 6:37:53 AM ChronoLegion
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* The main character of ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'' was a member of the Grey Wardens for a grand total of one day before they became the de-facto leader of the order in the country. Mostly because [[EverybodysDeadDave all but two members were brutally slaughtered]] immediately after the [[PlayerCharacter PC]] joined and the other guy, six months senior, doesn't like the idea of holding the responsibility of leadership. A {{DLC}} takes place in an AlternateUniverse where the other guy becomes leader. It ends badly.

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* The main character of ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'' was a member of the Grey Wardens for a grand total of one day before they became the de-facto leader of the order in the country. Mostly because [[EverybodysDeadDave all but two members were brutally slaughtered]] immediately after the [[PlayerCharacter PC]] joined and the other guy, six months senior, doesn't like the idea of holding the responsibility of leadership.leadership (which is ironic, since [[spoiler:he's the late King Cailan's illegitimate half-brother, giving him a possible claim to the throne]]). A {{DLC}} takes place in an AlternateUniverse where the other guy becomes leader. It ends badly.
8th Feb '17 6:33:49 AM ChronoLegion
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* In an episode of ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', [[RedShirt Red Squad]] was on a training mission using a ''Defiant''-class vessel when all the senior staff were killed. The ranking cadet takes command, as is expected of him. Out of what is more selfishness than inexperience, he decides he's better off just keeping the ship and its crew and continuing the mission on behalf of his dead captain who he never reports as dead (he gives a half-assed justification, but it's clear he's just enjoying the ride). He does fairly well for a Newbie at the start, but near the end it shows off just how bad this trope can go. His entire crew dies. The worst part is only two people actually get the hint that he was incompetent, and only one from the start.

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* In an episode of ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', [[RedShirt Red Squad]] was on a training mission using a ''Defiant''-class vessel when all the senior staff were killed. The ranking cadet takes command, as is expected of him. Out of what is more selfishness than inexperience, he decides he's better off just keeping the ship and its crew and continuing the mission on behalf of his dead captain who he never reports as dead (he gives a half-assed justification, but it's clear he's just enjoying the ride). He does fairly well for a Newbie at the start, but near the end it shows off just how bad this trope can go. His entire crew dies. The worst part is only two people actually get the hint that he was incompetent, and only one from the start. Nog even comments that the cadet in charge may have been a good man, but he was a ''bad'' captain, since a good captain doesn't get his crew killed on a fool's errand.
10th Jan '17 10:06:15 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Lt. Winters averted this because on DDay the entire company was still NewMeat with no combat experience. Some of the soldiers disrespect him at the beginning because he lost his rifle during the drop. They quickly change their tune when he leads the attack on the artillery position and proves himself to be a BadAss.

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** Lt. Winters averted this because on DDay the entire company was still NewMeat with no combat experience. Some of the soldiers disrespect him at the beginning because he lost his rifle during the drop. They quickly change their tune when he leads the attack on the artillery position and proves himself to be a BadAss.badass.
29th Dec '16 10:09:16 PM KeithM
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** In the Canadian Military College system it is unofficially hammered into new officer-cadets that it's the sergeants and warrants who really run things and if a newly minted officer pays careful attention to their sergeant then one day they might be allowed outside without a chaperone.
** Where EnsignNewbie really shows up is in the case of specialist officers such as medical professionals or lawyers who get an officer's commission after only the basic officer training, said 13 or so weeks perhaps being the only military experience they have unlike the four to five years officer-cadets put in before they are commissioned (plus more if they were promoted out of the ranks).
9th Dec '16 4:24:09 AM LtFedora
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* Lt. Gorman from ''Film/{{Aliens}}''. See page quote.

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* Lt. Gorman from ''Film/{{Aliens}}''. See page quote.quotes.
17th Nov '16 1:04:02 PM Morgenthaler
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* Literature/{{Sharpe}} is often assigned Ensign Newbies in the hope that his insane levels of BadAss will rub off on them. [[RunningGag If they don't end up unceremoniously dying]] they usually do, with Jack Bullen, Robert Knowles, Harry Price and Peter D'Alembord all [[TookALevelInBadass taking levels in badass]]. However, Cornwall is not above subverting this -- in ''Sharpe's Tiger'' we have Ensign Fitzgerald, already a BadAss and a FatherToHisMen, [[spoiler: who is then brutally murdered by Sergeant Hakeswill]]. ''Sharpe's Escape'' gives us the hopeless, alcoholic, braying, idiotic UpperClassTwit Cornelius Slingsby, who Sharpe hates and at one point even tries to murder. Then there's the Prince of Orange in ''Sharpe's Waterloo'', who is a (spectacularly useless) ''[[GeneralFailure General Newbie]].''

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* Literature/{{Sharpe}} is often assigned Ensign Newbies in the hope that his insane levels of BadAss badass will rub off on them. [[RunningGag If they don't end up unceremoniously dying]] they usually do, with Jack Bullen, Robert Knowles, Harry Price and Peter D'Alembord all [[TookALevelInBadass taking levels in badass]]. However, Cornwall is not above subverting this -- in ''Sharpe's Tiger'' we have Ensign Fitzgerald, already a BadAss badass and a FatherToHisMen, [[spoiler: who is then brutally murdered by Sergeant Hakeswill]]. ''Sharpe's Escape'' gives us the hopeless, alcoholic, braying, idiotic UpperClassTwit Cornelius Slingsby, who Sharpe hates and at one point even tries to murder. Then there's the Prince of Orange in ''Sharpe's Waterloo'', who is a (spectacularly useless) ''[[GeneralFailure General Newbie]].''
16th Aug '16 1:57:48 AM PaulA
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** In ''The Warrior's Apprentice'' Miles Vorkosigan toys with this trope. Yes he is a seventeen year old kid who ''washed out'' of his homeworld's military acadamy, but only one person aside from his original traveling companions (his [[PsychoSidekick bodyguard]] and [[UnluckyChildhoodFriend said bodyguard's daughter]]) even comes close to figuring the matter out when he surmises that he is a "Junior Officer in way over his head." The rest of what became the Dendarii Free Mercenary Company not only swallows his line about being a representative of some hotshot PrivateMilitaryContractors, but starts calling him [[FieldPromotion Admiral Naismith]].
** In ''The Vor Game'', after having graduated from the Imperial Military Academy and becoming an actual ensign, circumstances require Miles to once again don the mantle of Admiral Naismith. After having saved the Hegan Hub from a Cetagandan invasion, he spots another newly-minted ensign supervising a work party installing some new equipment on the Barrayaran's new flagship, and realizes that if he had just been able to follow orders, and do as he'd been told, that could have been him. He feels a little envious.

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** In ''The Warrior's Apprentice'' ''Literature/TheWarriorsApprentice'' Miles Vorkosigan toys with this trope. Yes he is a seventeen year old kid who ''washed out'' of his homeworld's military acadamy, but only one person aside from his original traveling companions (his [[PsychoSidekick bodyguard]] and [[UnluckyChildhoodFriend said bodyguard's daughter]]) even comes close to figuring the matter out when he surmises that he is a "Junior Officer in way over his head." The rest of what became the Dendarii Free Mercenary Company not only swallows his line about being a representative of some hotshot PrivateMilitaryContractors, but starts calling him [[FieldPromotion Admiral Naismith]].
** In ''The Vor Game'', ''Literature/TheVorGame'', after having graduated from the Imperial Military Academy and becoming an actual ensign, circumstances require Miles to once again don the mantle of Admiral Naismith. After having saved the Hegan Hub from a Cetagandan invasion, he spots another newly-minted ensign supervising a work party installing some new equipment on the Barrayaran's new flagship, and realizes that if he had just been able to follow orders, and do as he'd been told, that could have been him. He feels a little envious.
5th Jul '16 10:44:50 PM TheAntiTed
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* Subverted in the US Navy with Mustang officers (former enlisted men who are commissioned as officers). This often leads to "salty" sailors mistakenly thinking they can pull one over on the new ensign, particularly through e-mail and phone conversations, not so much in person as the newbie ensign's ribbons and warfare devices often reveal his past experience. Not to mention that such officers will inherently be much older than the typical ensign.

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* Subverted in the US Navy with Mustang officers (former enlisted men sailors who are commissioned as officers). This often leads to "salty" sailors mistakenly thinking they can pull one over on the new ensign, particularly through e-mail and phone conversations, not so much in person as the newbie ensign's ribbons and warfare devices often reveal his past experience. Not to mention that such officers will inherently be much older than the typical ensign.
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