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16th Aug '16 1:57:48 AM PaulA
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** In ''The Warrior's Apprentice'' Miles Vorkosigan toys with this trope. Yes he is a seventeen year old kid who ''washed out'' of his homeworld's military acadamy, but only one person aside from his original traveling companions (his [[PsychoSidekick bodyguard]] and [[UnluckyChildhoodFriend said bodyguard's daughter]]) even comes close to figuring the matter out when he surmises that he is a "Junior Officer in way over his head." The rest of what became the Dendarii Free Mercenary Company not only swallows his line about being a representative of some hotshot PrivateMilitaryContractors, but starts calling him [[FieldPromotion Admiral Naismith]].
** In ''The Vor Game'', after having graduated from the Imperial Military Academy and becoming an actual ensign, circumstances require Miles to once again don the mantle of Admiral Naismith. After having saved the Hegan Hub from a Cetagandan invasion, he spots another newly-minted ensign supervising a work party installing some new equipment on the Barrayaran's new flagship, and realizes that if he had just been able to follow orders, and do as he'd been told, that could have been him. He feels a little envious.

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** In ''The Warrior's Apprentice'' ''Literature/TheWarriorsApprentice'' Miles Vorkosigan toys with this trope. Yes he is a seventeen year old kid who ''washed out'' of his homeworld's military acadamy, but only one person aside from his original traveling companions (his [[PsychoSidekick bodyguard]] and [[UnluckyChildhoodFriend said bodyguard's daughter]]) even comes close to figuring the matter out when he surmises that he is a "Junior Officer in way over his head." The rest of what became the Dendarii Free Mercenary Company not only swallows his line about being a representative of some hotshot PrivateMilitaryContractors, but starts calling him [[FieldPromotion Admiral Naismith]].
** In ''The Vor Game'', ''Literature/TheVorGame'', after having graduated from the Imperial Military Academy and becoming an actual ensign, circumstances require Miles to once again don the mantle of Admiral Naismith. After having saved the Hegan Hub from a Cetagandan invasion, he spots another newly-minted ensign supervising a work party installing some new equipment on the Barrayaran's new flagship, and realizes that if he had just been able to follow orders, and do as he'd been told, that could have been him. He feels a little envious.
5th Jul '16 10:44:50 PM TheAntiTed
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* Subverted in the US Navy with Mustang officers (former enlisted men who are commissioned as officers). This often leads to "salty" sailors mistakenly thinking they can pull one over on the new ensign, particularly through e-mail and phone conversations, not so much in person as the newbie ensign's ribbons and warfare devices often reveal his past experience. Not to mention that such officers will inherently be much older than the typical ensign.

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* Subverted in the US Navy with Mustang officers (former enlisted men sailors who are commissioned as officers). This often leads to "salty" sailors mistakenly thinking they can pull one over on the new ensign, particularly through e-mail and phone conversations, not so much in person as the newbie ensign's ribbons and warfare devices often reveal his past experience. Not to mention that such officers will inherently be much older than the typical ensign.
1st Jul '16 7:11:22 PM nombretomado
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** And Officer Chouno from the same author's ''TwentiethCenturyBoys'', who has the added handicap of being compared to his legendary detective grandfather. Both are even introduced the same way, throwing up upon seeing a grisly murder scene.

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** And Officer Chouno from the same author's ''TwentiethCenturyBoys'', ''Manga/TwentiethCenturyBoys'', who has the added handicap of being compared to his legendary detective grandfather. Both are even introduced the same way, throwing up upon seeing a grisly murder scene.
14th May '16 1:56:03 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Commonly features in Creator/HarryTurtledove works; for example, in the [[{{Timeline-191}} TL-191]] series, Sergeant Michael Pound (a {{Tuckerization}} of fellow author SMStirling) repeatedly has to successively shepherd several inexperienced second lieutenants in command of a tank unit. He's quite bemused when he eventually gets one who's both gung-ho and competent to start with.

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* Commonly features in Creator/HarryTurtledove works; for example, in the [[{{Timeline-191}} [[Literature/Timeline191 TL-191]] series, Sergeant Michael Pound (a {{Tuckerization}} of fellow author SMStirling) repeatedly has to successively shepherd several inexperienced second lieutenants in command of a tank unit. He's quite bemused when he eventually gets one who's both gung-ho and competent to start with.
21st Apr '16 2:18:12 PM Kadorhal
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* The TropeNamer is Shiro Amada from ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamThe08thMSTeam'', who gets called this by his subordinate [[CommunicationsOfficer Eledore Massis]] in the English dub.
** Kou Uraki from ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam0083StardustMemory'' is a subversion. While he ''is'' an Ensign at the start of the series, its the higher ranking officers (ala Burning and Monsha) who are leading the unit.

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* The TropeNamer is Shiro Amada from ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamThe08thMSTeam'', an Ensign put in command of the eponymous mobile suit team and who gets called this is quickly labeled "Commander Newbie" and similar by his subordinate [[CommunicationsOfficer Eledore Massis]] in the English dub.
** Kou Uraki from ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam0083StardustMemory'' is a subversion. While he ''is'' an Ensign at the start of the series, its the higher ranking officers (ala Burning (Burning and Monsha) who are leading the unit.unit. He does, however, get to pilot the Gundam over someone of more experience, for little more reason than because he was the one who tried to stop Zeon remnants from [[GrandTheftPrototype stealing the other one]]; this causes no small amount of animosity between him and Monsha for most of the series.



* ''WesternAnimation/{{Ultimate Spider-Man}}'' plays with this trope. Spider-Man was chosen by Nick Fury to lead 4 heroes just like him, who have plenty of training with SHEILD. Spidey was put in charge because he has over a year of ''[[TaughtByExperience experience]]'' as a superhero.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Ultimate Spider-Man}}'' plays with this trope. Spider-Man was chosen by Nick Fury to lead 4 heroes just like him, who have plenty of training with SHEILD.S.H.I.E.L.D.. Spidey was put in charge because he has over a year of ''[[TaughtByExperience experience]]'' as a superhero.



* In Russia, many regular, civilian universities have military schools/[=ROTCs=] ("voennye kafedry/fakultety"). It is not mandatory for male students to study in these schools, but many people do, because, you know, there is conscription in Russia, and being a conscripted lieutenant is better than being a conscripted private. Of course, lieutenants from these military schools are the least competent sort of officers, derogatorily nicknamed "pidzhaki" ("jackets") by career servicemen. They are Ensigns Newbies par excellence.

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* In Russia, many regular, civilian universities have military schools/[=ROTCs=] ("voennye kafedry/fakultety"). It is not mandatory for male students to study in these schools, but many people do, because, you know, because there is conscription in Russia, and being a conscripted lieutenant is better than being a conscripted private. Of course, lieutenants from these military schools are the least competent sort of officers, derogatorily nicknamed "pidzhaki" ("jackets") by career servicemen. They are Ensigns Newbies par excellence.
15th Apr '16 5:09:35 PM BillWoods
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* Prescott "Scotty" Tremaine from the Literature/HonorHarrington series starts out as a freshly-minted ensign. With the help of Horace Harkness, his own personal SergeantRock, he grows out of it.
** Like all military tropes, this is everywhere in Harrington. At one point, "training Ensign Newbie" is described, only slightly satirically and in almost as many words, as the primary job of senior noncoms.

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* Prescott "Scotty" Tremaine from the Literature/HonorHarrington series starts out as a freshly-minted ensign. With the help of Horace Harkness, his own personal SergeantRock, he grows out of it.
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Like all military tropes, this is everywhere in Harrington. the Literature/HonorHarrington series. At one point, "training Ensign Newbie" is described, only slightly satirically and in almost as many words, as the primary job of senior noncoms.noncoms.
** Prescott "Scotty" Tremaine starts out as a freshly-minted ensign. With the help of Horace Harkness, his own personal SergeantRock, he grows out of it.



*** There's also a novella, "Ms. Midshipwoman Harrington," which features the titular character's own larval stage as an officer. [[spoiler: At the climax, she briefly takes control of the ship after the senior staff are incapacitated.]]
*** "The Service of the Sword" has Abigail Hearns's middie cruise, with her giving orders to the Marine [=NCO=] under her command to prepare for contingencies that he thinks will never happen, and him thinking she's a bit of an idiot newbie... and then it turns out she's right. There's a reason she's Honor's protege.

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*** ** There's also a novella, "Ms. Midshipwoman Harrington," which features the titular character's own larval stage as an officer. [[spoiler: At the climax, she briefly takes control of the ship after the senior staff are incapacitated.]]
*** ** "The Service of the Sword" has Abigail Hearns's middie cruise, with her giving orders to the Marine [=NCO=] under her command to prepare for contingencies that he thinks will never happen, and him thinking she's a bit of an idiot newbie... and then it turns out she's right. There's a reason she's Honor's protege.protégé.
** And in ''Mission of Honor'', Lt. Hearns has to send another green middie off as head of a SAR team of a wrecked ship. She gives him instructions on how to behave, ending with
--> '''Hearns''': But that's why I've attached the [ship's senior petty officer] to your group. I wouldn't go so far as saying I'm sending him along to 'look after you,' but I ''will'' say I expect you to remember he's been in the Navy since ''you'' were five T-years old. Use his experience accordingly.



* In ''Literature/TeamYankee'', the new LT in the tank company is this in spades until the first shots of WorldWarIII are fired and he becomes competent under fire. One of his buddies from OCS shows up later and fails to follow his example- the men bet on how long he'll last and he's severely injured when his tank is hit by a "Hind"-launched anti-tank missile.

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* In ''Literature/TeamYankee'', the new LT in the tank company is this in spades until the first shots of WorldWarIII are fired and he becomes competent under fire. One of his buddies from OCS shows up later and fails to follow his example- example -- the men bet on how long he'll last and he's severely injured when his tank is hit by a "Hind"-launched anti-tank missile.



** In ''The Warrior's Apprentice'' Miles Vorkosigan toys with this trope. Yes he is a seventeen year old kid who ''washed out'' of his homeworld's military acadamy, but only one person aside from his original traveling companions (his [[PsychoSidekick bodyguard]] and [[UnluckyChildhoodFriend said bodyguard's daughter]]) even comes close to figuring the matter out when he surmises that he is a "Junior Officer in way over his head." The rest of what became the Dendarii Free Mercenary Company not only takes his line about being a representative of some hotshot PrivateMilitaryContractors to heart, but starts calling him [[FieldPromotion Admiral Naismith]].
** In ''The Vor Game'', after having graduated from the Imperial Military Academy and becoming an actual ensign, circumstances require Miles to once again don the mantle of Admiral Naismith. After having saved the Hegan Hub from a Cetagandan invasion, he spots another newly minted ensign supervising a work party installing some new equipment on the Barrayaran's new flag ship, and realizes that if he had just been able to follow orders, and do as he'd been told, that could have been him. He feels a little envious.

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** In ''The Warrior's Apprentice'' Miles Vorkosigan toys with this trope. Yes he is a seventeen year old kid who ''washed out'' of his homeworld's military acadamy, but only one person aside from his original traveling companions (his [[PsychoSidekick bodyguard]] and [[UnluckyChildhoodFriend said bodyguard's daughter]]) even comes close to figuring the matter out when he surmises that he is a "Junior Officer in way over his head." The rest of what became the Dendarii Free Mercenary Company not only takes swallows his line about being a representative of some hotshot PrivateMilitaryContractors to heart, PrivateMilitaryContractors, but starts calling him [[FieldPromotion Admiral Naismith]].
** In ''The Vor Game'', after having graduated from the Imperial Military Academy and becoming an actual ensign, circumstances require Miles to once again don the mantle of Admiral Naismith. After having saved the Hegan Hub from a Cetagandan invasion, he spots another newly minted newly-minted ensign supervising a work party installing some new equipment on the Barrayaran's new flag ship, flagship, and realizes that if he had just been able to follow orders, and do as he'd been told, that could have been him. He feels a little envious.



* Literature/{{Sharpe}} is often assigned Ensign Newbies in the hope that his insane levels of BadAss will rub off on them. [[RunningGag If they don't end up unceremoniously dying]] they usually do, with Jack Bullen, Robert Knowles, Harry Price and Peter D'Alembord all [[TookALevelInBadass taking levels in badass]]. However, Cornwall is not above subverting this - in ''Sharpe's Tiger'' we have Ensign Fitzgerald, already a BadAss and a FatherToHisMen, [[spoiler: who is then brutally murdered by Sergeant Hakeswill]]. ''Sharpe's Escape'' gives us the hopeless, alcoholic, braying, idiotic UpperClassTwit Cornelius Slingsby, who Sharpe hates and at one point even tries to murder. Then there's the Prince of Orange in ''Sharpe's Waterloo'', who is a (spectacularly useless) ''[[GeneralFailure General Newbie]].''

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* Literature/{{Sharpe}} is often assigned Ensign Newbies in the hope that his insane levels of BadAss will rub off on them. [[RunningGag If they don't end up unceremoniously dying]] they usually do, with Jack Bullen, Robert Knowles, Harry Price and Peter D'Alembord all [[TookALevelInBadass taking levels in badass]]. However, Cornwall is not above subverting this - -- in ''Sharpe's Tiger'' we have Ensign Fitzgerald, already a BadAss and a FatherToHisMen, [[spoiler: who is then brutally murdered by Sergeant Hakeswill]]. ''Sharpe's Escape'' gives us the hopeless, alcoholic, braying, idiotic UpperClassTwit Cornelius Slingsby, who Sharpe hates and at one point even tries to murder. Then there's the Prince of Orange in ''Sharpe's Waterloo'', who is a (spectacularly useless) ''[[GeneralFailure General Newbie]].''



* In ''VideoGame/Warhammer40000SpaceMarine'', 2nd Lieutenant Mira [[YouAreInCommandNow finds herself in command]] when she's the last surviving Imperial Guard officer on Graia - a junior platoon commander left in charge of all the remaining 203rd Cadian regiment. You can see just how relieved she is when the Ultramarines arrive.

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* In ''VideoGame/Warhammer40000SpaceMarine'', 2nd Lieutenant Mira [[YouAreInCommandNow finds herself in command]] when she's the last surviving Imperial Guard officer on Graia - -- a junior platoon commander left in charge of all the remaining 203rd Cadian regiment. You can see just how relieved she is when the Ultramarines arrive.



** The unofficial nurse's motto: "Be kind to your nurse - we keep the doctor from accidentally killing you."

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** The unofficial nurse's motto: "Be kind to your nurse - -- we keep the doctor from accidentally killing you."
11th Apr '16 3:00:45 PM Willbyr
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* Seina from ''TenchiMuyoGXP'' is a Fleet Captain yet he hasn't graduated from basic training until the end of the series.

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* Seina from ''TenchiMuyoGXP'' ''Anime/TenchiMuyoGXP'' is a Fleet Captain yet he hasn't graduated from basic training until the end of the series.
7th Apr '16 1:28:33 PM babyhenchy1
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* Theon is considered one of these by the crew of the ''Sea Bitch'' in ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'', somewhat unfairly as he ''does'' have experience commanding men for Robb Stark in the early battles of the War of the Five Kings.

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* Theon is considered one of these by the crew of the ''Sea Bitch'' in ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'', somewhat unfairly as he ''does'' have experience commanding men for Robb Stark in the early battles of the War of the Five Kings.Kings, [[DeliberateValuesDissonance but the way the Ironborn view things is very different from how the rest of Westeros does]].
7th Mar '16 6:57:56 PM LtFedora
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->''' ''Unteroffizer'' Manfred "Rollo" Rohleder:''' Is this your first time at the front?\\

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->''' ''Unteroffizer'' Manfred "Rollo" Rohleder:''' Is this your first time at [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII the front?\\front]]?\\
7th Mar '16 6:54:05 PM LtFedora
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->''I work for children; literally, the admiral is '''five'''. Goddamned nepotism. When I asked for orders, he sent me a box filled with melted chocolate and a birthday card made from macaroni.''
-->-- '''General Knoxx''', ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}''

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->''I work for children; literally, ->''' ''Unteroffizer'' Manfred "Rollo" Rohleder:''' Is this your first time at the admiral is '''five'''. Goddamned nepotism. When I asked for orders, he sent me a box filled with melted chocolate and a birthday card made from macaroni.''
-->-- '''General Knoxx''', ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}''
front?\\
''' ''Leutnant'' Hans von Witzland:''' ''(shrugs)'' Everyone must start somewhere.
-->--''Film/{{Stalingrad 1993}}''
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