History Main / ElegantWeaponForAMoreCivilizedAge

6th Sep '16 1:58:52 AM Underachiever
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* Swords, particularly some varieties thereof (the Rapier and the Jian, for instance) have often been the mark of noblemen, military officers and others in high social standing, presumably owing to the fact that being allowed to openly go about armed was a privilege of belonging to those classes and swords were conveniently easy to carry while still leaving both hands free. (Sometimes the expense of a good sword over another weapon using less metal is also cited, but depending on the historical era some swords, especially mass-produced ones and/or war surplus, could actually be had for fairly cheap.) Ironically, one of their functions was to hack at any DirtyCoward who tried to break formation and run away.

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* Swords, particularly some varieties thereof (the Rapier and the Jian, for instance) have often been the mark of noblemen, military officers and others in high social standing, presumably owing to the fact that being allowed to openly go about armed was a privilege of belonging to those classes and swords were conveniently easy to carry while still leaving both hands free. (Sometimes the expense of a good sword over another weapon using less metal is also cited, but depending on the historical era some swords, especially mass-produced ones and/or war surplus, surplus or salvage from earlier conflicts, could actually be had for fairly cheap.) Ironically, one of their functions was to hack at any DirtyCoward who tried to break formation and run away.
6th Sep '16 1:48:44 AM Underachiever
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* Swords, particularly some varieties thereof (the Rapier and the Jian, for instance) have often been the mark of noblemen, military officers and others in high social standing, presumably owing to the fact that they were expensive. Ironically, one of their functions was to hack at any DirtyCoward who tried to break formation and run away.

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* Swords, particularly some varieties thereof (the Rapier and the Jian, for instance) have often been the mark of noblemen, military officers and others in high social standing, presumably owing to the fact that they being allowed to openly go about armed was a privilege of belonging to those classes and swords were expensive. conveniently easy to carry while still leaving both hands free. (Sometimes the expense of a good sword over another weapon using less metal is also cited, but depending on the historical era some swords, especially mass-produced ones and/or war surplus, could actually be had for fairly cheap.) Ironically, one of their functions was to hack at any DirtyCoward who tried to break formation and run away.
30th Aug '16 7:00:50 AM REV6Pilot
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* Fighting Jack Churchill of the British Army, who not only carried a bow and arrows and sword with him into combat during ''World War II'' but killed Germans with them. You can't fit this trope any better than by telling a general, as Churchill did, "[[http://www.wwiihistorymagazine.com/2005/july/col-profiles.html In my opinion, sir, any officer who goes into action without his sword is improperly dressed]]."

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* Fighting Jack "Fighting Jack" Churchill of the British Army, who not only carried a bow and arrows and sword with him into combat during ''World War II'' but killed Germans has a confirmed German kill with them. the bow. You can't fit this trope any better than by telling a general, as Churchill did, did:
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"[[http://www.wwiihistorymagazine.com/2005/july/col-profiles.html In my opinion, sir, any officer who goes into action without his sword is improperly dressed]]."
30th Aug '16 6:40:17 AM REV6Pilot
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* It takes years of training to become a good longbowman, but only a few weeks to learn to how use a gun effectively. Also, longbows could not pierce heavy armour. Therefore, as guns became more effective (and more able to pierce heavy armour) there were fewer and fewer reasons to use longbows in war. Nevertheless, the English held onto their traditional longbows and bills for nearly a century after the rest of Europe had switched to pike and shot. They were not necessarily wrong to do so. In 1513, the Scots (armed with pikes and muskets) invaded England and were utterly trounced at the battle of Flodden Field (at least partly due to the effectiveness of the longbow against lightly-armoured Scottish troops). The main reason longbows weren't replaced by crossbows in earlier times, which had the same advantage as firearms in that they took far less time to learn to use and didn't require massive physical strength to shoot a heavy projectile, was that longbows could still be fired much faster than crossbows.
* Crossbows disappeared from the battlefield before the longbow did because their only advantages were things that a gun could do better, but they remained popular for hunting into the 19th century and even today, since they are quite accurate and don't produce noise or smoke that would scare away the game.

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* It takes years of training to become a good longbowman, but only a few weeks to learn to how use a gun effectively. Also, longbows could not pierce heavy armour. Therefore, as guns became more effective (and more able to pierce heavy armour) there were fewer and fewer reasons to use longbows in war. Nevertheless, the English [[TheStraightAndArrowPath held onto their traditional longbows and bills for nearly a century after the rest of Europe had switched to pike and shot.shot]]. They were not necessarily wrong to do so. In 1513, the Scots (armed with pikes and muskets) invaded England and were utterly trounced at the battle of Flodden Field (at least partly due to the effectiveness of the longbow against lightly-armoured Scottish troops). The main reason longbows weren't replaced by crossbows in earlier times, which had the same advantage as firearms in that they took far less time to learn to use and didn't require massive physical strength to shoot a heavy projectile, was that [[MoreDakka longbows could still be fired much faster than crossbows.crossbows]].
* Crossbows disappeared from the battlefield before the longbow did because their only advantages were things that a gun could do better, but they remained popular for hunting into the 19th century [[TheStraightAndArrowPath and even today, since they are can be quite accurate and don't produce noise or smoke that would scare away the game.game]].
13th Aug '16 12:09:15 PM YT45
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* The Operative in ''Film/{{Serenity}}'' uses a Chinese-style sword as an apparent throwback to the warrior traditions of old. He lectures one man about how a dishonored Romans would fall on their sword... while forcing the man to do so.

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* The Operative in ''Film/{{Serenity}}'' uses a Chinese-style sword as an apparent throwback to the warrior traditions of old. He lectures one man about how a dishonored Romans would fall on their sword... while forcing the man to do so. Somewhat subverted in that he's not above using guns (notably taking a pistol off of a dead Alliance officer when shit gets real), he's just a ''ridiculously''-skilled killer who seems to favor his long blade as more of a personal style choice that anything else.
5th Aug '16 9:07:54 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* Parodied meta-wise in ''Franchise/{{Halo}}''. Luke Smith says that the Spartan Laser is not an overpowered weapon, but an elegant weapon from a more civilized age. Said [[InNameOnly "Elegant Weapon"]] is a [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill Goddamn]] [[FrickinLaserBeams Laser]] [[{{BFG}} Cannon]] that kills nearly everything that goes into the path of the laser. And that thing costs more than four fully-armed warthogs and is worth only five shots per battery! ([[VideogameCrueltyPotential Not that it isn't fun to use]])
** In what is possibly the most subtle reference in video game canon, the achievement ''An Elegant Weapon...'' in ''VideoGame/HaloReach'', which is, presumably, a reference to [[AllThereInTheManual how the DMR has fallen out of style in favor of the Battle Rifle]], while at the same time talking about Obi-Wan commenting on how the lightsaber has fallen out of use in favor of the blaster in StarWars.

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* Parodied meta-wise in ''Franchise/{{Halo}}''. ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'':
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Luke Smith says said that the Spartan Laser is not an overpowered weapon, but an elegant weapon from a more civilized age. Said [[InNameOnly "Elegant Weapon"]] is a [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill Goddamn]] [[FrickinLaserBeams Laser]] [[{{BFG}} Cannon]] that kills nearly everything that goes into the path of the laser. And that thing costs more than four fully-armed warthogs and is worth only five shots per battery! ([[VideogameCrueltyPotential Not that it isn't fun to use]])
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** In what is possibly the most subtle reference in video game canon, the achievement ''An Elegant Weapon...'' in ''VideoGame/HaloReach'', which is, presumably, ''VideoGame/HaloReach'' is presumably a reference to [[AllThereInTheManual how the DMR has fallen out of style in favor of the Battle Rifle]], while at the same time talking about referring to Obi-Wan commenting on how the lightsaber has fallen out of use in favor of the blaster in StarWars.''Film/ANewHope''.
30th Jun '16 5:59:04 PM TomWalpertac2
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* The [[MagiTek Caster Gun]] from ''Manga/OutlawStar'' qualifies. It was formerly used by mages in many places across space. By the main story, It's not unique but very old, and very rare. It's just barely common enough for its ammunition to be available, albeit in extremely short supply, in various knick-nack shops and from merchants.

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* The [[MagiTek Caster Gun]] from ''Manga/OutlawStar'' qualifies. It was formerly used by mages in many places across space. By the main story, It's not unique but very old, and very rare. It's just barely common enough for its ammunition to be available, albeit in extremely short limited supply, in various knick-nack shops and from specialty merchants.
7th Jun '16 6:00:55 PM Doug86
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* During UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne, Europe was fairly surprised at the effectiveness of automatic weapons and artillery. Infantry and cavalry blocks ''very'' quickly gave way to trench warfare, tanks, and moving through cover.

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* During UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne, UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, Europe was fairly surprised at the effectiveness of automatic weapons and artillery. Infantry and cavalry blocks ''very'' quickly gave way to trench warfare, tanks, and moving through cover.
5th Jun '16 11:56:18 AM jkp1187
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** In the [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Expanded Universe]] and ''[[Franchise/StarWarsLegends Legends]]'', it's explained that the Jedi think of blasters as uncivilised because they allow one to kill from a distance. Due to the Force's deep connections to all life, the Jedi believe that if you must end a life, you should be close enough to sense it end, hence the lightsabers. By making killing a very up close and personal thing, Jedi tradition discourages ending a life unless it is absolutely necessary and you understand the full implications of what you are doing. (Meanwhile, the Sith use lightsabers to mock the Jedi, and kill from close range because they enjoy it.)

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** In the [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Expanded Universe]] and ''[[Franchise/StarWarsLegends Legends]]'', it's explained that the Jedi think of blasters as uncivilised because they allow one to kill from a distance. Due to the Force's deep connections to all life, the Jedi believe that if you must end a life, you should be close enough to sense it end, hence the lightsabers. By making killing a very up close and personal thing, Jedi tradition discourages ending a life unless it is absolutely necessary and you understand the full implications of what you are doing. (Meanwhile, the Sith use lightsabers to mock the Jedi, and kill from close range because they enjoy it.it - though the distinction between "enjoying" the close-range kill and killing at close range because one would feel bad otherwise is hardly a bright line.)
24th May '16 6:21:58 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Commander Keith in ''VoltronForce'' considers a sword (his is a replica of the [[CoolSword Blazing Sword]] that {{Voltron}} uses) "a weapon of honor".

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* Commander Keith in ''VoltronForce'' considers a sword (his is a replica of the [[CoolSword Blazing Sword]] that {{Voltron}} Anime/{{Voltron}} uses) "a weapon of honor".
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