History Main / ElegantWeaponForAMoreCivilizedAge

15th Nov '17 6:07:45 PM TheBigBopper
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* [[OnlyTheChosenMayWield The weapons are picky about who wields them]] and these days few measure up.

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* [[OnlyTheChosenMayWield The weapons are picky about who wields them]] them]], and these days there are few people who measure up.
25th Oct '17 7:06:23 PM WillKeaton
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--> "[[http://www.wwiihistorymagazine.com/2005/july/col-profiles.html In my opinion, sir, any officer who goes into action without his sword is improperly dressed]]."

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--> "[[http://www.[[http://www.wwiihistorymagazine.com/2005/july/col-profiles.html In "In my opinion, sir, any officer who goes into action without his sword is improperly dressed]]."dressed."]]



* The Chinese government, harried by Pakistani terrorists, [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-old-weapon-technologies-with-new-purpose/ brought back the crossbow for their law enforcement]], since the [[FridgeBrilliance bolts can kill the terrorists with a reduced chance of detonating any explosives.]]

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* The Chinese government, harried by Pakistani terrorists, [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-old-weapon-technologies-with-new-purpose/ brought back the crossbow for their law enforcement]], enforcement,]] since the [[FridgeBrilliance bolts can kill the terrorists with a reduced chance of detonating any explosives.]]
25th Oct '17 7:05:47 PM WillKeaton
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* Parodied in Webcomic/{{XKCD}} [[http://xkcd.com/297/ #297]].

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* Parodied in Webcomic/{{XKCD}} [[http://xkcd.com/297/ #297]].#297.]]



* ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'': The Very Reverend Lieutenant Theo Fobius is an accomplished fencer since his seminary days. He even makes it [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2004-12-04 work]] [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2004-12-05 for him]]. (Well, [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2001-03-03 sometimes]].)

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* ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'': The Very Reverend Lieutenant Theo Fobius is an accomplished fencer since his seminary days. He even makes it [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2004-12-04 work]] [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2004-12-05 for him]]. (Well, Well, [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2001-03-03 sometimes]].)sometimes.]]
25th Oct '17 7:04:45 PM WillKeaton
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* ''Manga/DragonBall'' Goku's power pole.
* Inverted in ''Manga/TheFiveStarStories''. Personal combat has come back into fashion once more ''not'' because ideas of honor or elegant but because people realized what a waste it was to nuke things from orbit. The goal of most warfare in the series is to conquer territory while doing as little damage to said territory as possible (after all, who wants to rule over a radioactive crater?). The trope is also deconstructed here, as the dominance of showy, impractical weapons like {{Laser Blade}}s and [[BlingBlingBang ridiculously elaborate]], sword-fighting HumongousMecha are seen as a sign that war has become some kind of sick game to the rulers of the galaxy.

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* ''Manga/DragonBall'' ''Manga/DragonBall'': Goku's power pole.
pole AKA Nyoi-bō.
* Inverted in ''Manga/TheFiveStarStories''. Personal combat has come back into fashion once more ''not'' because ideas of honor or elegant but because people realized what a waste it was to nuke things from orbit. The goal of most warfare in the series is to conquer territory while doing as little damage to said territory as possible (after possible. (After all, who wants to rule over a radioactive crater?). crater?) The trope is also deconstructed here, as the dominance of showy, impractical weapons like {{Laser Blade}}s and [[BlingBlingBang ridiculously elaborate]], sword-fighting HumongousMecha are seen as a sign that war has become some kind of sick game to the rulers of the galaxy.
10th Oct '17 10:34:50 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* The Klingons in ''Franchise/StarTrek'' love to fight with their swords, (called ''bat'leth''), even though energy guns, such as phasers or disruptors, are very common in the [[TheVerse Trek universe]], and the Klingons themselves know perfectly well how to build and use the latter ones. They obviously consider it to be [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy more honorable to defeat your enemy in close combat]]. In addition to the ''bat'leth'' they also have the ''mek'leth'' (paired fighting daggers used not unlike sais) and the ''d'k'tagh'' (a ceremonial dagger with spring-loaded secondary blades built into the guard). No other ''Franchise/StarTrek'' race, except maybe the Vulcans with their ceremonial weaponry, devotes as much loving attention to edged weapons as the Klingons.

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* The Klingons in ''Franchise/StarTrek'' love to fight with their swords, (called ''bat'leth''), even though energy guns, such as phasers or disruptors, are very common in the [[TheVerse Trek universe]], and the Klingons themselves know perfectly well how to build and use the latter ones. They obviously consider it to be [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy more honorable to defeat your enemy in close combat]]. In addition to the ''bat'leth'' they also have the ''mek'leth'' (paired fighting daggers used not unlike sais) and the ''d'k'tagh'' (a ceremonial dagger with spring-loaded secondary blades built into the guard). No other ''Franchise/StarTrek'' race, except maybe the Vulcans with their ceremonial weaponry, devotes as much loving attention to edged weapons as the Klingons. When they're fighting anyone but each other, RealityEnsues and they mostly just get shot while charging.
10th Oct '17 10:25:18 PM ImpudentInfidel
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*** In the few times we do see him use it, the reason he normally doesn't bother becomes clear; he's so powerful with the Force that using a physical weapon at all is like a game to him. When he does use it he cuts through Jedi Masters and other Sith alike like paper; in his fight with Maul and Opress especially he makes it very clear that he could have killed them both instantly without letting them into saber range if he so desired. Even Yoda barely challenged him and was quickly sent running.
5th Oct '17 6:59:32 AM MaulMachine
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** A lot of the Imperium works like this as well: Artificer Armor and Master Crafted Weapons tend to be centuries, if not millennia, old. The reason they're still in use isn't just because of sentimentality; it's because they ''still work better'' than a lot of newer things, and in fact repairs and modifications may make them ''worse''. This also plays into the fact that, prior to the formation of the Imperium, humanity lost vast swathes of technological knowledge during the Age of Strife, afterwards leaving the newly-formed Imperium to scramble to secure whatever was left over. It's rather a Big Thing whenever a new [[LostTechnology Standard Template Construct]] is discovered. That, and the Imperium of Mankind (or at least, the Inquistion) frown rather heavily on innovation or invention -- it's like "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" taken UpToEleven. As a result, Imperial technology has spent about 10-15 thousand years stagnating while races less afraid of designing better wargear (like the Tau or the Tyranids) are slowly overtaking.

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** A lot of the Imperium works like this as well: Artificer Armor and Master Crafted Weapons tend to be centuries, if not millennia, old. The reason they're still in use isn't just because of sentimentality; it's because they ''still work better'' than a lot of newer things, and in fact repairs and modifications may make them ''worse''. This also plays into the fact that, prior to the formation of the Imperium, humanity lost vast swathes of technological knowledge during the Age of Strife, afterwards leaving the newly-formed Imperium to scramble to secure whatever was left over. It's rather a Big Thing whenever a new [[LostTechnology Standard Template Construct]] is discovered. That, and the Imperium of Mankind (or at least, the Inquistion) frown rather heavily on innovation or invention -- it's like "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" taken UpToEleven. As a result, Imperial technology has spent about 10-15 thousand years stagnating while races less afraid of designing better wargear (like the Tau or the Tyranids) are slowly overtaking. It's not universal, though - the rulebooks make it explicitly clear that bipedal combat platforms and Hellguns are actually better now than they used to be, and a lot of old designs aren't made anymore not because nobody remembers how, but because the Imperium is logistically strapped.
8th Aug '17 11:48:11 PM Panzerkatzen
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** Not [[CrapsackWorld too civilized]] though, with the world racked by [[NoBloodForPhlebotinum resource wars]]. The European states invade the Middle East as a response to [[PostPeakOil crippling oil prices]], when the oil runs dry [[JustBeforeTheEnd both regions collapse]]. Meanwhile [[InvadedStatesOfAmerica China invades Alaska]] for America's oil, and the United States retaliates by invading mainland China, eventually culminating in [[WorldWarIII a two hour nuclear exchange]] that puts an end to the war and [[FromBadToWorse everyone involved]].
8th Jun '17 2:30:08 AM PehesIII
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* In the opening fight of Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2, Gamora uses a big grenade-launcher-like gun instead of her usual swords, much to Quill's disappointment who thought every member of the group typically had a WeaponOfChoice, guns being his. The trope is subverted in-universe for him (as well as lampshaded and deconstructed by Gamora). [[spoiler: [[DoubleSubversion Double subverted]] in the end of the fight : None of their weapons is able to pierce through the monster's skin, but it has a weak spot. However, when Gamora aims for it, her weapon is out of ammunition, so she resorts to her sword instead.]]
21st Apr '17 10:04:45 PM nombretomado
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* Inverted by the Howling Voice Guild of the ''{{Suikoden}}'' series, who are the only people in the world to wield guns. As Cathari explains in ''VideoGame/SuikodenV'', they're louder than bows, so worse for stealth, less accurate, and less reliable (Though not in [[GameplayAndStorySegregation actual combat]], where one shot from Cathari can do more damage than most fighters can pull of in three, she also has a high hit rate). In a civilized age, they're the only ones using these uncivilized weapons. The only thing that makes them useful is as an intimidation tactic.

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* Inverted by the Howling Voice Guild of the ''{{Suikoden}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Suikoden}}'' series, who are the only people in the world to wield guns. As Cathari explains in ''VideoGame/SuikodenV'', they're louder than bows, so worse for stealth, less accurate, and less reliable (Though not in [[GameplayAndStorySegregation actual combat]], where one shot from Cathari can do more damage than most fighters can pull of in three, she also has a high hit rate). In a civilized age, they're the only ones using these uncivilized weapons. The only thing that makes them useful is as an intimidation tactic.
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