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9th Sep '16 8:02:45 PM Fireblood
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* The Constellation in ''Literature/{{Hellhole}}'' the nobility elects the ruling Diadem upon the death of their predecessor. The only explicitly noted limitation is that the children of former Diadems are prohibited from being elected, ensuring that there are no unbroken Diademic dynasties and the elective system is maintained.

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* The Constellation in ''Literature/{{Hellhole}}'' the ''Literature/{{Hellhole}}''. The nobility elects the ruling Diadem upon the death of their predecessor. The only explicitly noted limitation is that the children of former Diadems are prohibited from being elected, ensuring that there are no unbroken Diademic dynasties and the elective system is maintained.
9th Sep '16 3:44:00 PM Goldfritha
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SuccessionCrisis is very common as people go wheeling and dealing to try to secure the throne or favors for their help in securing it.
9th Sep '16 1:08:51 PM LordInsane
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* The Constellation in ''Literature/{{Hellhole}}'' the nobility elects the ruling Diadem upon the death of their predecessor. The only explicitly noted limitation is that the children of former Diadems are prohibited from being elected, ensuring that there are no unbroken Diademic dynasties and the elective system is maintained.
8th Sep '16 6:14:00 PM Sheliak
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* The Free Palatinate of Dyrwood in ''VideoGame/PillarsOfEternity'' is ruled by a duc who is elected by the seven regional erls.

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* The Free Palatinate of Dyrwood in ''VideoGame/PillarsOfEternity'' is ruled by a duc who is elected by the seven regional erls.els.
* In ''VideoGame/KingOfDragonPass'', Orlanthi tribes are always ruled by elected kings or queens. Hereditary rule isn't seen as an option, and it's extremely rare for successive kings to even come from the same clan. In order to get to the endgame (and either victory or a "standard" loss) you have to form a tribe and have a clan member elected to rule it, which requires decent relationships with your tribemates, a skilled candidate, choosing the right person to speak for them, and of course, hefty bribes.
3rd Sep '16 7:43:03 AM Morgenthaler
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* This is one of the succession options available to feudal rulers of kingdoms and empires in ''VideoGame/CrusaderKings 2''. Under elective succession, all of the dukes of the realm, plus the sovereign, get to vote on the heir to the crown. Used properly, it's extremely powerful, as it allows the player to select the most suitable heir, rather than the doddering idiot who just happened to be born first. Used improperly, it can result in your hard-earned imperial crown being wrested from your dynasty entirely. Appropriately, it's the default succession style of the HolyRomanEmpire-- see below.

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* This is one of the succession options available to feudal rulers of kingdoms and empires in ''VideoGame/CrusaderKings 2''. Under elective succession, all of the dukes of the realm, plus the sovereign, get to vote on the heir to the crown. Used properly, it's extremely powerful, as it allows the player to select the most suitable heir, rather than the doddering idiot who just happened to be born first. Used improperly, it can result in your hard-earned imperial crown being wrested from your dynasty entirely. Appropriately, it's the default succession style of the HolyRomanEmpire-- UsefulNotes/HolyRomanEmpire-- see below.
1st Sep '16 6:22:06 PM Fireblood
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** The Ironborn thousands of years ago elected their Kings through a Kingsmoot, which could sometimes go on for doors and would occasionally be used to depose unworthy Kings. This practice ended when Urron "Redhand" Greyiron, the great-nephew of the previous King, murdered many of his opponents at the Kingsmoot, beginning hereditary rule. After House Greyiron ended the Ironborn chose House Hoare, and when House Hoare was destroyed almost three centuries before the series starts, Aegon the Conqueror allowed the Iron Islands to choose their new ruler, at which they chose the Greyjoys. Ironborn ostensibly follow the same agnatic-cognatic primogeniture as five of the other six kingdoms, but in practice, there is enough resistance when a woman is next in line to inherit that they revive their centuries-dead tradition of a kingsmoot instead. [[spoiler: The crown winds up going to [[EvilOverlord Euron Greyjoy]], the man who ''would'' have been heir in an agnatic (male-only) primogeniture system, ironically the Kingsmoot was called by his youngest brother Aeron partially to prevent Euron becoming King of the Isles, who hoped his other brother Victarian Greyjoy would be chosen yet. No word yet on if they'll codify this or stick with an elective monarchy.]]

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** The Ironborn thousands of years ago elected their Kings through a Kingsmoot, which could sometimes go on for doors days and would occasionally be used to depose unworthy Kings. This practice ended when Urron "Redhand" Greyiron, the great-nephew of the previous King, murdered many of his opponents at the Kingsmoot, beginning hereditary rule. After House Greyiron ended the Ironborn chose House Hoare, and when House Hoare was destroyed almost three centuries before the series starts, Aegon the Conqueror allowed the Iron Islands to choose their new ruler, at which they chose the Greyjoys. Ironborn ostensibly follow the same agnatic-cognatic primogeniture as five of the other six kingdoms, but in practice, there is enough resistance when a woman is next in line to inherit that they revive their centuries-dead tradition of a kingsmoot instead. [[spoiler: The crown winds up going to [[EvilOverlord Euron Greyjoy]], the man who ''would'' have been heir in an agnatic (male-only) primogeniture system, ironically system. Ironically the Kingsmoot was called by his youngest brother Aeron partially to prevent Euron becoming King of the Isles, who hoped his other brother Victarian Greyjoy would be chosen yet. No word yet on if they'll codify this or stick with an elective monarchy.]]



** The Sealord of Braavos is also elected, though it's unclear if it's this or a republic. However considering Braavos is based on Italian Renaissance city-states it is probably a Republic.

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** The Sealord of Braavos is also elected, though it's unclear if it's this or a republic. However considering Braavos is based on Italian Renaissance city-states (especially Venice) it is probably a Republic.likely the latter.
30th Aug '16 5:53:23 PM MrThorfan64
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** The Ironborn ostensibly follow the same agnatic-cognatic primogeniture as five of the other six kingdoms, but in practice, there is enough resistance when a woman is next in line to inherit that they revive their centuries-dead tradition of a kingsmoot instead. [[spoiler: The crown winds up going to the man who ''would'' have been heir in an agnatic (male-only) primogeniture system. No word yet on if they'll codify this or stick with an elective monarchy.]]

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** The First Great Council was called by Jaehaerys I after the deaths of his two eldest sons to decide who would be his heir. The lords, with a vast majority, voted for the male-line candidate, Jaehaerys' 24-year old grandson Viserys, rather then a female or the female-line candidate, Jaehaerys 7-year old great-grandson Laenor Velaryon. This apparently codified that Targaryen rule had to happen through the male line.
** The Ironborn thousands of years ago elected their Kings through a Kingsmoot, which could sometimes go on for doors and would occasionally be used to depose unworthy Kings. This practice ended when Urron "Redhand" Greyiron, the great-nephew of the previous King, murdered many of his opponents at the Kingsmoot, beginning hereditary rule. After House Greyiron ended the Ironborn chose House Hoare, and when House Hoare was destroyed almost three centuries before the series starts, Aegon the Conqueror allowed the Iron Islands to choose their new ruler, at which they chose the Greyjoys.
Ironborn ostensibly follow the same agnatic-cognatic primogeniture as five of the other six kingdoms, but in practice, there is enough resistance when a woman is next in line to inherit that they revive their centuries-dead tradition of a kingsmoot instead. [[spoiler: The crown winds up going to [[EvilOverlord Euron Greyjoy]], the man who ''would'' have been heir in an agnatic (male-only) primogeniture system.system, ironically the Kingsmoot was called by his youngest brother Aeron partially to prevent Euron becoming King of the Isles, who hoped his other brother Victarian Greyjoy would be chosen yet. No word yet on if they'll codify this or stick with an elective monarchy.]]



** The Sealord of Braavos is also elected, though it's unclear if it's this or a republic.

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** The Sealord of Braavos is also elected, though it's unclear if it's this or a republic. However considering Braavos is based on Italian Renaissance city-states it is probably a Republic.
7th Aug '16 1:33:51 PM ElBuenCuate
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## The electors have always elected the most-senior male member of the House of Saud deemed qualified for the job (some princes are ill, uninterested, or otherwise under suspicion, and thus aren't candidates in the first place). Since ''1953'', this has meant, basically, the oldest surviving son of UsefulNotes/AbdulAzizIbnSaud. That's right--it's been over sixty years since the man died, and his grandsons still aren't anywhere near the throne (Muqrin, the youngest son of Abdul Aziz and current Crown Prince, was born in 1945, it is unlikely that a grandson would become king before 2020). To give you an idea, Abdul Aziz was born in 1876. [[UsefulNotes/TheHouseOfWindsor George V]] was born in 1865. There's a very good chance that George V's great-grandson (Charles--who incidentally has been first in line since his mother became Queen in ''1952'', so he could have inherited the throne much earlier if his mother wasn't so long-lived) will get to the throne before Abdul Aziz's eldest eligible grandson.

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## The electors have always elected the most-senior male member of the House of Saud deemed qualified for the job (some princes are ill, uninterested, or otherwise under suspicion, and thus aren't candidates in the first place). Since ''1953'', this has meant, basically, the oldest surviving son of UsefulNotes/AbdulAzizIbnSaud. That's right--it's been over sixty years since the man died, and only now (2016) are his grandsons still aren't grandsons anywhere near the throne (Muqrin, the youngest son of Abdul Aziz and current Crown (current crown Prince, was born in 1945, it is unlikely that a grandson would become Muhammad bin Nayef, will be the first third generation king before 2020).when he ascends). To give you an idea, Abdul Aziz was born in 1876. [[UsefulNotes/TheHouseOfWindsor George V]] was born in 1865. There's a very good chance that George V's great-grandson (Charles--who incidentally has been first in line since his mother became Queen in ''1952'', so he could have inherited the throne much earlier if his mother wasn't so long-lived) will get to the throne before Abdul Aziz's eldest eligible grandson.
25th Jul '16 12:52:54 AM PaulA
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* The Weald in ''The Hallowed Hunt'', the third book in the Literature/{{Chalion}} series by Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold. A FantasyCounterpartCulture of the Holy Roman Empire (see Real Life section below), the new Hallow King is officially elected by the heads of five great houses and three influential church members (who have replaced three houses whose lines have died out or fallen out of power). The last few generations have seen the current ruling house have their eldest sons confirmed as heirs while the old kings are still alive, eventually turning it into a normal hereditary monarchy.

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* The Weald in ''The Hallowed Hunt'', the third book in the Literature/{{Chalion}} series ''Literature/TheHallowedHunt'' by Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold. A FantasyCounterpartCulture of the Holy Roman Empire (see Real Life section below), the new Hallow King is officially elected by the heads of five great houses and three influential church members (who have replaced three houses whose lines have died out or fallen out of power). The last few generations have seen the current ruling house have their eldest sons confirmed as heirs while the old kings are still alive, eventually turning it into a normal hereditary monarchy.
22nd Jul '16 7:09:25 PM Fireblood
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* The Vampire Princes in ''Literature/TheSagaOfDarrenShan''. A new Prince must be nominated by one of the Princes, and approved by all of the others. If one does not approve, it is voted on by the Generals (a much larger group of officials between the Princes and ordinary vampires). If two or more Princes refuse, the nomination is cancelled. Book 4 introduces a character who is set to become a Prince, who was reject by one Prince and approved by only 54% of Generals. [[spoiler: After Darren's [[HeroismEqualsJobQualification act of heroism]], ''all of the Princes and Generals'' approve his nomination, despite the fact that he's a child, and only a half-vampire.]]

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* The Vampire Princes in ''Literature/TheSagaOfDarrenShan''. A new Prince must be nominated by one of the Princes, and approved by all of the others. If one does not approve, it is voted on by the Generals (a much larger group of officials between the Princes and ordinary vampires). If two or more Princes refuse, the nomination is cancelled. Book 4 introduces a character who is set to become a Prince, who was reject rejected by one Prince and approved by only 54% of the Generals. [[spoiler: After Darren's [[HeroismEqualsJobQualification act of heroism]], ''all of the Princes and Generals'' approve his nomination, despite the fact that he's a child, and only a half-vampire.]]
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