History Main / ElectiveMonarchy

19th Nov '16 12:26:58 PM RobTan
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* [[ZigZaggedTrope Zig-Zagged]] in ''Literature/TheBelgariad'' by Tolnedra. The Emperor of Tolnedra is a hereditary post passing from father to son, but inevitably one emperor in a dynasty will die without a son or suitable heir, and a new dynasty is elected by a council of dignitaries. This inevitably results in a dying emperor's nephews and cousins fleeing the capital to their ancestral lands to dig in while the other powerful families raise bribe money or attempt to off rivals in other, or even their own, houses. The last emperor, Ran Borune, whose only child was a daughter, averted a SuccessionCrisis by adopting General Varana, his close political ally and commander-in-chief of the Tolnedran Legions, as his son just before he died.
19th Nov '16 12:15:52 PM RobTan
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* [[ZigZaggedTrope Zig-Zagged]] in ''Literature/TheBelgariad'' by Tolnedra. The Emperor of Tolnedra is a hereditary post passing from father to son, but inevitably one emperor in a dynasty will die without a son or suitable heir, and a new dynasty is elected by a council of dignitaries. This inevitably results in a dying emperor's nephews and cousins fleeing the capital to their ancestral lands to dig in while the other powerful families raise bribe money or attempt to off rivals in other, or even their own, houses. The last emperor, Ran Borune, whose only child was a daughter, averted a SuccessionCrisis by adopting General Varana, his close political ally and commander-in-chief of the Tolnedran Legions, as his son just before he died.
10th Oct '16 8:54:47 PM erforce
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'': The Pirate King is elected by the nine pirate lords; there have been very few kings because the lords tend to just vote for themselves. [[spoiler: Jack surprises everyone by voting for Elizabeth.]]

to:

* ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'': ''Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanAtWorldsEnd'': The Pirate King is elected by the nine pirate lords; there have been very few kings because the lords tend to just vote for themselves. [[spoiler: Jack surprises everyone by voting for Elizabeth.]]
6th Oct '16 10:13:16 AM Antigone3
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* ''Literature/LordDarcy'': We don't see it on-page, but by law, when the King dies Parliament must elect a Plantagenet as the new king. They're allowed to elect ''any'' Plantagenet. It's specifically noted in one story that while it's most likely John [=IV=] will be succeeded by one of his two sons, his brother Richard is ''not'' out of the running.
9th Sep '16 8:02:45 PM Fireblood
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* The Constellation in ''Literature/{{Hellhole}}'' the nobility elects the ruling Diadem upon the death of their predecessor. The only explicitly noted limitation is that the children of former Diadems are prohibited from being elected, ensuring that there are no unbroken Diademic dynasties and the elective system is maintained.

to:

* The Constellation in ''Literature/{{Hellhole}}'' the ''Literature/{{Hellhole}}''. The nobility elects the ruling Diadem upon the death of their predecessor. The only explicitly noted limitation is that the children of former Diadems are prohibited from being elected, ensuring that there are no unbroken Diademic dynasties and the elective system is maintained.
9th Sep '16 3:44:00 PM Goldfritha
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

SuccessionCrisis is very common as people go wheeling and dealing to try to secure the throne or favors for their help in securing it.
9th Sep '16 1:08:51 PM LordInsane
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* The Constellation in ''Literature/{{Hellhole}}'' the nobility elects the ruling Diadem upon the death of their predecessor. The only explicitly noted limitation is that the children of former Diadems are prohibited from being elected, ensuring that there are no unbroken Diademic dynasties and the elective system is maintained.
8th Sep '16 6:14:00 PM Sheliak
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* The Free Palatinate of Dyrwood in ''VideoGame/PillarsOfEternity'' is ruled by a duc who is elected by the seven regional erls.

to:

* The Free Palatinate of Dyrwood in ''VideoGame/PillarsOfEternity'' is ruled by a duc who is elected by the seven regional erls.els.
* In ''VideoGame/KingOfDragonPass'', Orlanthi tribes are always ruled by elected kings or queens. Hereditary rule isn't seen as an option, and it's extremely rare for successive kings to even come from the same clan. In order to get to the endgame (and either victory or a "standard" loss) you have to form a tribe and have a clan member elected to rule it, which requires decent relationships with your tribemates, a skilled candidate, choosing the right person to speak for them, and of course, hefty bribes.
3rd Sep '16 7:43:03 AM Morgenthaler
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* This is one of the succession options available to feudal rulers of kingdoms and empires in ''VideoGame/CrusaderKings 2''. Under elective succession, all of the dukes of the realm, plus the sovereign, get to vote on the heir to the crown. Used properly, it's extremely powerful, as it allows the player to select the most suitable heir, rather than the doddering idiot who just happened to be born first. Used improperly, it can result in your hard-earned imperial crown being wrested from your dynasty entirely. Appropriately, it's the default succession style of the HolyRomanEmpire-- see below.

to:

* This is one of the succession options available to feudal rulers of kingdoms and empires in ''VideoGame/CrusaderKings 2''. Under elective succession, all of the dukes of the realm, plus the sovereign, get to vote on the heir to the crown. Used properly, it's extremely powerful, as it allows the player to select the most suitable heir, rather than the doddering idiot who just happened to be born first. Used improperly, it can result in your hard-earned imperial crown being wrested from your dynasty entirely. Appropriately, it's the default succession style of the HolyRomanEmpire-- UsefulNotes/HolyRomanEmpire-- see below.
1st Sep '16 6:22:06 PM Fireblood
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** The Ironborn thousands of years ago elected their Kings through a Kingsmoot, which could sometimes go on for doors and would occasionally be used to depose unworthy Kings. This practice ended when Urron "Redhand" Greyiron, the great-nephew of the previous King, murdered many of his opponents at the Kingsmoot, beginning hereditary rule. After House Greyiron ended the Ironborn chose House Hoare, and when House Hoare was destroyed almost three centuries before the series starts, Aegon the Conqueror allowed the Iron Islands to choose their new ruler, at which they chose the Greyjoys. Ironborn ostensibly follow the same agnatic-cognatic primogeniture as five of the other six kingdoms, but in practice, there is enough resistance when a woman is next in line to inherit that they revive their centuries-dead tradition of a kingsmoot instead. [[spoiler: The crown winds up going to [[EvilOverlord Euron Greyjoy]], the man who ''would'' have been heir in an agnatic (male-only) primogeniture system, ironically the Kingsmoot was called by his youngest brother Aeron partially to prevent Euron becoming King of the Isles, who hoped his other brother Victarian Greyjoy would be chosen yet. No word yet on if they'll codify this or stick with an elective monarchy.]]

to:

** The Ironborn thousands of years ago elected their Kings through a Kingsmoot, which could sometimes go on for doors days and would occasionally be used to depose unworthy Kings. This practice ended when Urron "Redhand" Greyiron, the great-nephew of the previous King, murdered many of his opponents at the Kingsmoot, beginning hereditary rule. After House Greyiron ended the Ironborn chose House Hoare, and when House Hoare was destroyed almost three centuries before the series starts, Aegon the Conqueror allowed the Iron Islands to choose their new ruler, at which they chose the Greyjoys. Ironborn ostensibly follow the same agnatic-cognatic primogeniture as five of the other six kingdoms, but in practice, there is enough resistance when a woman is next in line to inherit that they revive their centuries-dead tradition of a kingsmoot instead. [[spoiler: The crown winds up going to [[EvilOverlord Euron Greyjoy]], the man who ''would'' have been heir in an agnatic (male-only) primogeniture system, ironically system. Ironically the Kingsmoot was called by his youngest brother Aeron partially to prevent Euron becoming King of the Isles, who hoped his other brother Victarian Greyjoy would be chosen yet. No word yet on if they'll codify this or stick with an elective monarchy.]]



** The Sealord of Braavos is also elected, though it's unclear if it's this or a republic. However considering Braavos is based on Italian Renaissance city-states it is probably a Republic.

to:

** The Sealord of Braavos is also elected, though it's unclear if it's this or a republic. However considering Braavos is based on Italian Renaissance city-states (especially Venice) it is probably a Republic.likely the latter.
This list shows the last 10 events of 245. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.ElectiveMonarchy