History Main / EarlyInstallmentWeirdness

6th Jan '18 7:47:37 PM MarkLungo
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There will always be some fans who view the ''current'' incarnation of a series as TheyChangedItNowItSucks, but it also must be said that weirdness in this case isn't necessarily a ''bad'' thing. Plenty of ideas get scrapped in the natural course of a series, some of them perfectly good. EarlyInstallmentWeirdness might be synonymous with a time when a plot was more laid back, experimental, pre-ExecutiveMeddling, pre-{{Flanderization}}, or any number of other things. As always, YMMV.

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There will always be some fans who view the ''current'' incarnation of a series as TheyChangedItNowItSucks, but it also must be said that weirdness in this case isn't necessarily a ''bad'' thing. Plenty of ideas get scrapped in the natural course of a series, some of them perfectly good. EarlyInstallmentWeirdness Early Installment Weirdness might be synonymous with a time when a plot was more laid back, experimental, pre-ExecutiveMeddling, pre-{{Flanderization}}, or any number of other things. As always, YMMV.
7th Nov '17 8:07:05 AM DrakeClawfang
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->''"Oh please, Mandy. That didn't even look like us."''
-->-- '''Grim''', ''WesternAnimation/TheGrimAdventuresOfBillyAndMandy'', after a flashback to the pilot short.

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->''"Oh please, Mandy. That didn't even look like us.->''"As a first season, especially the earlier episodes, there were a lot of goofy ideas that were put in because they were still finding out their place and how they wanted the show to work."''
-->-- '''Grim''', ''WesternAnimation/TheGrimAdventuresOfBillyAndMandy'', after a flashback to the pilot short.
'''[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]''', ''WebVideo/HistoryOfPowerRangers'' discussing ''Series/MightyMorphinPowerRangers''
23rd Jun '17 1:05:26 PM Piterpicher
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Compare NewFirstComics, LostInImitation, EarlyInstallmentCharacterDesignDifference, and AdaptationDisplacement. Contrast FirstInstallmentWins and LaterInstallmentWeirdness. When a character displays this, it's CharacterizationMarchesOn (or {{Flanderization}}, when it essentially happens in reverse). May be the OddballInTheSeries. See also MeetYourEarlyInstallmentWeirdness.

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Compare NewFirstComics, LostInImitation, EarlyInstallmentCharacterDesignDifference, BreakingOldTrends and AdaptationDisplacement. Contrast FirstInstallmentWins and LaterInstallmentWeirdness. When a character displays this, it's CharacterizationMarchesOn (or {{Flanderization}}, when it essentially happens in reverse). May be the OddballInTheSeries. See also MeetYourEarlyInstallmentWeirdness.
15th Jun '17 12:57:33 PM LeafyGreens
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There will always be some fans who view the ''current'' incarnation of a series as TheyChangedItNowItSucks, but it also must be said that weirdness in this case isn't necessarily a ''bad'' thing. Plenty of ideas get scraped in the natural course of a series, some of them perfectly good. EarlyInstallmentWeirdness might be synonymous with a time when a plot was more laid back, experimental, pre-ExecutiveMeddling, pre-{{Flanderization}}, or any number of other things. As always, YMMV.

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There will always be some fans who view the ''current'' incarnation of a series as TheyChangedItNowItSucks, but it also must be said that weirdness in this case isn't necessarily a ''bad'' thing. Plenty of ideas get scraped scrapped in the natural course of a series, some of them perfectly good. EarlyInstallmentWeirdness might be synonymous with a time when a plot was more laid back, experimental, pre-ExecutiveMeddling, pre-{{Flanderization}}, or any number of other things. As always, YMMV.
8th May '17 8:05:30 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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''A special note on the trope in video games: there, it is often the counterpart to SpiritualSuccessor. A series may evolve in a drastically different direction from its first instalment in a technical sense, abandoning core gameplay mechanics or changing them in drastic ways, while retaining the setting (general background lore, characters etc.), although elements can be [[ExpandedUniverse added]] or [[RetCon retconned]]. This can happen if the developer for an intellectual property held by a publisher changes or merely if a developer wishes to keep a recognizable, established IP, but adapt to a new player demographic or emulate gameplay seen in another revolutionary title. Such changes result in an early instalment weirdness when the sequels are compared with the first instalment. In contrast, a game which tries to imitate a forerunner title mostly in gameplay terms (copying/refining particular "revolutionary" aspects, the entire gameplay or just the general "feeling" of the game), but is not part of the forerunners' IP, e.g. if the rights to the IP are held by a different publisher, and so uses a different setting, it's usually a SpiritualSuccessor.''

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''A special note on the trope in video games: there, it is often the counterpart to SpiritualSuccessor. A series may evolve in a drastically different direction from its first instalment installment in a technical sense, abandoning core gameplay mechanics or changing them in drastic ways, while retaining the setting (general background lore, characters etc.), although elements can be [[ExpandedUniverse added]] or [[RetCon retconned]]. This can happen if the developer for an intellectual property held by a publisher changes or merely if a developer wishes to keep a recognizable, established IP, but adapt to a new player demographic or emulate gameplay seen in another revolutionary title. Such changes result in an early instalment installment weirdness when the sequels are compared with the first instalment.installment. In contrast, a game which tries to imitate a forerunner title mostly in gameplay terms (copying/refining particular "revolutionary" aspects, the entire gameplay or just the general "feeling" of the game), but is not part of the forerunners' IP, e.g. if the rights to the IP are held by a different publisher, and so uses a different setting, it's usually a SpiritualSuccessor.''
16th Apr '17 9:28:43 AM Kazuto
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''A special note on the trope in video games: there, it is often the counterpart to SpiritualSuccessor. A series may evolve in a drastically different direction from its first installment in a technical sense, abandoning core gameplay mechanics or changing them in drastic ways, while retaining the setting (general background lore, characters etc.), although elements can be [[ExpandedUniverse added]] or [[RetCon retconned]]. This can happen if the developer for an intellectual property held by a publisher changes or merely if a developer wishes to keep a recognizable, established IP, but adapt to a new player demographic or emulate gameplay seen in another revolutionary title. Such changes result in an early installment weirdness when the sequels are compared with the first installment .In contrast, a game which tries to imitate a forerunner title mostly in gameplay terms (copying/refining particular "revolutionary" aspects, the entire gameplay or just the general "feeling" of the game), but is not part of the forerunners' IP, e.g. if the rights to the IP are held by a different publisher, and so uses a different setting, it's usually a SpiritualSuccessor.''

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''A special note on the trope in video games: there, it is often the counterpart to SpiritualSuccessor. A series may evolve in a drastically different direction from its first installment instalment in a technical sense, abandoning core gameplay mechanics or changing them in drastic ways, while retaining the setting (general background lore, characters etc.), although elements can be [[ExpandedUniverse added]] or [[RetCon retconned]]. This can happen if the developer for an intellectual property held by a publisher changes or merely if a developer wishes to keep a recognizable, established IP, but adapt to a new player demographic or emulate gameplay seen in another revolutionary title. Such changes result in an early installment instalment weirdness when the sequels are compared with the first installment .instalment. In contrast, a game which tries to imitate a forerunner title mostly in gameplay terms (copying/refining particular "revolutionary" aspects, the entire gameplay or just the general "feeling" of the game), but is not part of the forerunners' IP, e.g. if the rights to the IP are held by a different publisher, and so uses a different setting, it's usually a SpiritualSuccessor.''
25th Mar '17 11:28:12 PM OnTheHillside
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There will always be some fans who view the ''current'' incarnation of a series as TheyChangedItNowItSucks.

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There will always be some fans who view the ''current'' incarnation of a series as TheyChangedItNowItSucks.
TheyChangedItNowItSucks, but it also must be said that weirdness in this case isn't necessarily a ''bad'' thing. Plenty of ideas get scraped in the natural course of a series, some of them perfectly good. EarlyInstallmentWeirdness might be synonymous with a time when a plot was more laid back, experimental, pre-ExecutiveMeddling, pre-{{Flanderization}}, or any number of other things. As always, YMMV.
13th Nov '16 11:57:37 AM nombretomado
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-->-- '''Grim''', ''TheGrimAdventuresOfBillyAndMandy'', after a flashback to the pilot short.

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-->-- '''Grim''', ''TheGrimAdventuresOfBillyAndMandy'', ''WesternAnimation/TheGrimAdventuresOfBillyAndMandy'', after a flashback to the pilot short.
15th Aug '16 4:56:13 PM bt8257
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[-[[caption-width-right:350:Is this Batman? [[ThouShaltNotKill Executing someone?]] [[DoesNotLikeGuns WITH A GUN?]][[note]]OK, [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman so it's a vampire]], but still... Hang on... Is this ''[[CoolVersusAwesome Batman fighting a vampire!?]]''[[/note]]]]-]

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[-[[caption-width-right:350:Is this Batman? [-[[caption-width-right:350:Batman? [[ThouShaltNotKill Executing someone?]] [[DoesNotLikeGuns WITH A GUN?]][[note]]OK, [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman so it's a vampire]], but still... Hang on... Is this ''[[CoolVersusAwesome Batman fighting a vampire!?]]''[[/note]]]]-]
6th Mar '16 5:34:43 PM hamza678
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Compare NewFirstComics, LostInImitation, and AdaptationDisplacement. Contrast FirstInstallmentWins and LaterInstallmentWeirdness. When a character displays this, it's CharacterizationMarchesOn (or {{Flanderization}}, when it essentially happens in reverse). May be the OddballInTheSeries. See also MeetYourEarlyInstallmentWeirdness.

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Compare NewFirstComics, LostInImitation, EarlyInstallmentCharacterDesignDifference, and AdaptationDisplacement. Contrast FirstInstallmentWins and LaterInstallmentWeirdness. When a character displays this, it's CharacterizationMarchesOn (or {{Flanderization}}, when it essentially happens in reverse). May be the OddballInTheSeries. See also MeetYourEarlyInstallmentWeirdness.
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