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1st May '16 7:00:16 AM Kalaong
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* Garth Ennis' ''ComicBook/ThePunisher'' portrayed America as glass half empty Boorish, to the point where the military are launching terrorist attacks to justify war.



* A lot of the comic book writers from across the pond, even those that have written Marvel and DC books for years, tend to love turning our original superheroes on their ear, basically making them even more jingoistic, or just jerkasses, for shock value or to go DarkerAndEdgier. A handful of heroes still hold out as the fair-minded Beautiful idealists, and ironically their scarcity makes ''them'' the more remarkable ones. Creator/GarthEnnis has a recurring interest in America, often playing off The Beautiful (the national mythology of America and what the characters strive for) against The Boorish (what tends to be the reality in his strips) and the clashes thereof. Examples of this clash include Tommy Monaghan, Hitman, genuinely respecting and idolizing Superman; and the views of British/Irish immigrants and visitors to the States, all of them noticing and decrying the Boorish parts of America while ''simultaneously'' loving the place.

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* A lot of the comic book writers from across the pond, even those that have written Marvel and DC books for years, tend to love turning our original superheroes on their ear, basically making them even more jingoistic, or just jerkasses, for shock value or to go DarkerAndEdgier. A handful of heroes still hold out as the fair-minded Beautiful idealists, and ironically their scarcity makes ''them'' the more remarkable ones. Creator/GarthEnnis
*Creator/GarthEnnis
has a recurring interest in America, often playing off The Beautiful (the national mythology of America and what the characters strive for) against The Boorish (what tends to be the reality in his strips) and the clashes thereof. Examples of this clash include Tommy Monaghan, Hitman, genuinely respecting and idolizing Superman; and the views of British/Irish immigrants and visitors to the States, all of them noticing and decrying the Boorish parts of America while ''simultaneously'' loving the place. Slanted more towards the Boorish are [[ComicBook/ThePunisherMAX Punisher]] and [[ComicBook/FuryMyWarGoneBy Nick Fury]], [[AtLeastIAdmitIt self-admitted]] sociopaths who [[TheFettered attempt to restrict]] their violence to those who deserve it, while surrounded by corrupt cops and generals who fake terrorist attacks to justify war.
26th Apr '16 3:30:52 PM scaredinmate#94
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* ''LightNovel/{{Gate}}'' offers a pretentious example of this. Americans are depicted as being schemers who use military force to get whatever they want. But what makes it ''really'' annoying for viewers is that the [[{{Hypocrite}}Japanese do the exact same thing in this alternate world, often simply using their superior technology to force something, if they don't get their way.]]

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* ''LightNovel/{{Gate}}'' offers a pretentious example of this. Americans are depicted as being schemers who use military force to get whatever they want. But what makes it ''really'' annoying for viewers is that the [[{{Hypocrite}}Japanese [[{{Hypocrite}} Japanese do the exact same thing in this alternate world, often simply using their superior technology to force something, if they don't get their way.]]
26th Apr '16 3:29:46 PM scaredinmate#94
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* ''LightNovel/{{Gate}}'' offers a pretentious example of this. Americans are depicted as being schemers who use military force to get whatever they want. But what makes it ''really'' annoying for viewers is that the Japanese do the exact same thing in this alternate world, often simply using their superior technology to force something, if they don't get their way.

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* ''LightNovel/{{Gate}}'' offers a pretentious example of this. Americans are depicted as being schemers who use military force to get whatever they want. But what makes it ''really'' annoying for viewers is that the Japanese [[{{Hypocrite}}Japanese do the exact same thing in this alternate world, often simply using their superior technology to force something, if they don't get their way.]]
26th Apr '16 3:28:12 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* ''VideoGame/{{DJMAX}} Portable'' features the background animation to the song "Dreadnought", which depicts a creature with UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush's head (though with eyes censored out) as the ruler of "B.WLAND" and [[TheWarOnTerror waging war in the name of stopping terrorism]]. Perhaps to avoid controversy, the "International" rerelease of ''DJMAX Portable'' replaced "Dreadnought" with an entirely different song with an entirely different animation, and "Dreadnought" was never put in a ''DJMAX'' game again.

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* ''VideoGame/{{DJMAX}} Portable'' features the background animation to the song "Dreadnought", which depicts a creature with UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush's head (though with eyes censored out) as the ruler of "B.WLAND" and [[TheWarOnTerror waging war in the name of stopping terrorism]]. Perhaps to avoid controversy, controversy as Pentavision began to expand their market outside of South Korea, the "International" rerelease of ''DJMAX Portable'' replaced "Dreadnought" with an entirely different song with an entirely different animation, and "Dreadnought" was never put in a ''DJMAX'' game again.
26th Apr '16 3:22:00 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* ''VideoGame/{{DJMAX}} Portable'' features the background animation to the song "Dreadnought", which depicts a creature with UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush's head (though with eyes censored out) as the ruler of "B.WLAND" and [[UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror waging war in the name of stopping terrorism]]. When an "International" version of the game with Japanese and English options was released, [[{{Bowdlerise}} the song was replaced with an entirely different song with an entirely different animation]].

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* ''VideoGame/{{DJMAX}} Portable'' features the background animation to the song "Dreadnought", which depicts a creature with UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush's head (though with eyes censored out) as the ruler of "B.WLAND" and [[UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror [[TheWarOnTerror waging war in the name of stopping terrorism]]. When an Perhaps to avoid controversy, the "International" version rerelease of the game with Japanese and English options was released, [[{{Bowdlerise}} the song was ''DJMAX Portable'' replaced "Dreadnought" with an entirely different song with an entirely different animation]].animation, and "Dreadnought" was never put in a ''DJMAX'' game again.
26th Apr '16 3:19:56 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* ''VideoGame/{{DJMAX}} Portable'' features the background animation to the song "Dreadnought", which depicts a creature with UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush's head (though with eyes censored out) as the ruler of "B.WLAND" waging war in the name of [[UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror stopping terrorism]]. When an "International" version of the game with Japanese and English options was released, [[{{Bowdlerise}} the song was replaced with an entirely different song with an entirely different animation]].

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* ''VideoGame/{{DJMAX}} Portable'' features the background animation to the song "Dreadnought", which depicts a creature with UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush's head (though with eyes censored out) as the ruler of "B.WLAND" waging war in the name of and [[UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror waging war in the name of stopping terrorism]]. When an "International" version of the game with Japanese and English options was released, [[{{Bowdlerise}} the song was replaced with an entirely different song with an entirely different animation]].
26th Apr '16 3:19:22 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* ''VideoGame/{{DJMAX}} Portable'' features the background animation to the song "Dreadnought", which depicts a creature with UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush's head (though with eyes censored out) as the ruler of "B.WLAND" waging war in the name of [[UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror stopping terrorism]]. When an "International" version of the game with Japanese and English options was released, [[{{Bowdlerise}} the song was replaced with an entirely different song with an entirely different animation]].
20th Apr '16 5:05:28 PM Wuz
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* [[Wiki/SCPFoundation SCP]][[http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-50-ae-j AE-]][[JokeItem J]] is a [[HandCannon Desert Eagle]] that shoots a bald Eagle. Said Eagle flies around, attacking anyone with "communist" leanings, and shouting things like, "CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW HUGO CHEVEZ!"

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* [[Wiki/SCPFoundation SCP]][[http://www.SCP]]-[[http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-50-ae-j AE-]][[JokeItem AE]]-[[PlayedForLaughs J]] is a [[HandCannon Desert Eagle]] that shoots a bald Eagle. Said Eagle flies around, attacking anyone with "communist" leanings, and shouting things like, "CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW HUGO CHEVEZ!"
17th Apr '16 6:49:03 AM thatmadork
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* ''Literature/FearLoathingAndGumboOnTheCampaignTrailSeventyTwo'': America under the [[spoiler:Donald Rumsfeld]] administration is quite probably one of the worst representations of Boorish America ever put to writing. You see, President [[spoiler:Rumsfeld]] is a psychopath who bases every single policy on anarcho-capitalist/free market principles while doing ''anything'' to put down anything that even remotely whiffs of communism - to give you an idea, ''Britain under a Labour government'' is too far left for his tastes. The end result is an ultra-right-wing, corporate-authoritarian/quasi-fascist America that [[EveryoneHasStandards even many right-wingers like Nixon, Reagan and Tom Clancy are flat horrified by]]. Under the [[spoiler:Rumsfeld]] administration, all forms of commercial regulation, social welfare and workers' rights are removed and [[spoiler:working wages are slashed in half all across the board]], leaving millions of working-class Americans in dreadful poverty and slave-like working conditions. All environmental standards are removed too, so corporate pollution and climate change are ''actively encouraged''. [[spoiler:President Rumsfeld likes to remove political opponents by diagnosing them with bogus mental health claims and sending them off to {{Bedlam Houses}}, and also maintains black-shirts who look for any books which criticise free market economics and burn them.]] Hollywood becomes a right-wing PropagandaMachine which vilifies FDR and the New Deal as communist plots. To top it all off, the US military is sold off and falls under {{Private Military Contractor}}s who equip soldiers with woefully substandard equipment and even [[spoiler:''execute their own wounded to avoid paying for medical expenses'']]. It really is, if you'll pardon the pun, the land of the fast buck in the worst possible way.

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* ''Literature/FearLoathingAndGumboOnTheCampaignTrailSeventyTwo'': America under the [[spoiler:Donald Rumsfeld]] administration is quite probably one of the worst representations of Boorish America ever put to writing. You see, President [[spoiler:Rumsfeld]] is a psychopath who bases every single policy on anarcho-capitalist/free market principles while doing ''anything'' to put down anything that even remotely whiffs of communism - to give you an idea, ''Britain under a Labour government'' is too far left for his tastes. The end result is an ultra-right-wing, corporate-authoritarian/quasi-fascist America that [[EveryoneHasStandards even many right-wingers like Nixon, Reagan and Tom Clancy are flat horrified by]]. Under the [[spoiler:Rumsfeld]] administration, all forms of commercial regulation, social welfare and workers' rights are removed and [[spoiler:working wages are slashed in half all across the board]], leaving millions of working-class Americans in dreadful poverty and slave-like working conditions. All environmental standards are removed too, so corporate pollution and climate change are ''actively encouraged''. [[spoiler:President Rumsfeld likes to remove political opponents by diagnosing them with bogus mental health claims and sending them off to {{Bedlam Houses}}, and also maintains black-shirts who look for any books which criticise free market economics and burn them.]] Hollywood becomes a right-wing PropagandaMachine which vilifies FDR and the New Deal as communist plots. To top it all off, the US military is sold off and falls under {{Private Military Contractor}}s who equip soldiers with woefully substandard equipment and even [[spoiler:''execute their own wounded to avoid paying for medical expenses'']]. It really is, if you'll pardon the pun, the land of the fast buck Almighty Dollar in the worst possible way.
17th Apr '16 6:48:04 AM thatmadork
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* ''Literature/FearLoathingAndGumboOnTheCampaignTrailSeventyTwo'': America under the [[spoiler:Donald Rumsfeld]] administration is quite probably one of the worst representations of Boorish America ever put to writing. You see, President [[spoiler:Rumsfeld]] is a psychopath who bases every single policy on anarcho-capitalist/free market principles while doing ''anything'' to put down anything that even remotely whiffs of communism - to give you an idea, ''Britain under a Labour government'' is too far left for his tastes. The end result is an ultra-right-wing, corporate-authoritarian/quasi-fascist America that [[EveryoneHasStandards even many right-wingers like Nixon, Reagan and Tom Clancy are flat horrified by]]. Under the [[spoiler:Rumsfeld]] administration, all forms of commercial regulation, social welfare and workers' rights are removed and [[spoiler:working wages are slashed in half all across the board]], leaving millions of working-class Americans in dreadful poverty and slave-like working conditions. All environmental standards are removed too, so corporate pollution and climate change are ''actively encouraged''. [[spoiler:President Rumsfeld likes to remove political opponents by diagnosing them with bogus mental health claims and sending them off to {{Bedlam Houses}}, and also maintains black-shirts who look for any books which criticise free market economics and burn them.]] Hollywood becomes a right-wing PropagandaMachine which vilifies FDR and the New Deal as communist plots. To top it all off, the US military is sold off and falls under {{Private Military Contractor}}s who equip soldiers with woefully substandard equipment and even [[spoiler:''execute their own wounded to avoid paying for medical expenses'']]. It really is, if you'll pardon the pun, the land of the fast buck in the worst possible way.
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