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20th Mar '17 4:47:22 AM hszmv1
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* ''Fanchise//Civilization'' tends to be this flavor, with a lean towards Beautiful. Most Civs are given strengths based on historical positives, so as to not offend, but the AI and sometimes play style tends to push into some of the Civ's other less savory personalities. America's leaders tend to be either Washington or Lincoln and evoke freedom and tolerance. That said, the AI is also coded to strongly hate warmongers and has no problem declaring war on nations that tick them off in such a way. Civ VI is the best champion of the former trope, where under Teddy Roosevelt, America practices big stick diplomacy, and will fight for the freedom of any Civ that shares a continent with him and is the lone civ that gets benefits for environmentalist plays (getting bonus from National Parks, which require tiles with high levels of natural beauty and unspoiled by development. Civ V on the other hand, had an AI that favored Communism as it's form of government and was quite expansive.
8th Mar '17 1:33:43 PM ironballs16
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** On a regional scale, residents of Upstate New York will almost ''always'' have to clarify "The State, not the City" when mentioning that they come from New York.
5th Mar '17 10:43:59 AM Morgenthaler
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** As for the Middle East, most of its negative perception of America is due to its role in the ArabIsraeliConflict and the WarOnTerror, and [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment that's all we'll say about that]].[[note]]If you insist, the root of the problem is found at the end of WWI: with the death of the Ottoman Empire, the various states that formed the Middle East hoped to find the chance of ruling themselves as the statements said of the Society of Nations, instead, the terriories were split between Great Britain and France, as it seemed, [[ValuesDissonance the chance of self-ruling was reserved only for the European countries]], at this comes the US, with whom the countries had spoken to in hopes of finding a way of liberty and actually had made some agreements, this however turned out to be a play of RealPolitik and, as some documents revealed, the US government had never intended to intervene in favour of the ME countries, leaving them at their fates; then comes the end of WWII, by this point resentment had taken root and the approval or blind eye of the Israeli policies towards the Muslim population (another story in itself) by the US only made it worse.[[/note]].

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** As for the Middle East, most of its negative perception of America is due to its role in the ArabIsraeliConflict UsefulNotes/ArabIsraeliConflict and the WarOnTerror, and [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment that's all we'll say about that]].[[note]]If you insist, the root of the problem is found at the end of WWI: with the death of the Ottoman Empire, the various states that formed the Middle East hoped to find the chance of ruling themselves as the statements said of the Society of Nations, instead, the terriories were split between Great Britain and France, as it seemed, [[ValuesDissonance the chance of self-ruling was reserved only for the European countries]], at this comes the US, with whom the countries had spoken to in hopes of finding a way of liberty and actually had made some agreements, this however turned out to be a play of RealPolitik and, as some documents revealed, the US government had never intended to intervene in favour of the ME countries, leaving them at their fates; then comes the end of WWII, by this point resentment had taken root and the approval or blind eye of the Israeli policies towards the Muslim population (another story in itself) by the US only made it worse.[[/note]].
28th Feb '17 7:05:37 PM Fireblood
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* Even the high-minded ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' wasn't immune to this trope. In "The Neutral Zone", a highly volatile encounter with the Romulans is botched by the reappearance of three 21st century failures--a druggie country singer, a New Jersey homemaker, and a wannabe Gordon Gekko type from the eighties--who used their riches to become {{Human Popsicle}}s. Of the three, the businessman is the most malevolent. The singer adjusts the quickest to 24th century life, and is invigorated at the prospect of reintroducing Earth to his music. This episode qualifies as both types.



* Captain Archer of ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'' is from a single-government future Earth, but his American origins are still evident. He envisions himself as a BoldExplorer but is highly judgmental of alien practices and actually brings his dog to a sacred tree grove on another planet. His moral grandstanding often gets him in trouble and bothers his Vulcan first officer, but sometimes his blunt approach does have good results. When put on trial by the Klingons at one point, his defense lawyer's argument boils down to "he's a bumbling idiot, but his heart is in the right place."

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* Captain Archer of ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'' is from a single-government future Earth, but his American origins are still evident. He envisions himself as a BoldExplorer BoldExplorer, but is highly judgmental of alien practices practices, and actually brings his dog to a sacred tree grove on another planet. His moral grandstanding often gets him in trouble and bothers his Vulcan first officer, but sometimes his blunt approach does have good results. When put on trial by the Klingons at one point, his defense lawyer's argument boils down to "he's a bumbling idiot, but his heart is in the right place.""
* Even the high-minded ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' wasn't immune to this trope. In "The Neutral Zone", a highly volatile encounter with the Romulans is botched by the reappearance of three 21st century failures--a druggie country singer, a New Jersey homemaker, and a wannabe Gordon Gekko type from the eighties--who used their riches to become {{Human Popsicle}}s. Of the three, the businessman is the most malevolent. The singer adjusts the quickest to 24th century life, and is invigorated at the prospect of reintroducing Earth to his music. This episode qualifies as both types.
25th Feb '17 2:09:17 PM nombretomado
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* Despite Creator/TerryPratchett's [[WordOfGod stated decree]] that no part of the ''{{Discworld}}'' should resemble North America, this inevitably crept in over the life of the series. the Tezuman Empire is an {{Expy}} of pre-Conquest Mexico; the existance of a people not unlike Red Indians was revealed in ''Literature/ReaperMan''; ''Literature/WitchesAbroad'' saw a Louisiana-bayou place with a Cajun vibe, complete with riverboats and [[ManInWhite gamblers in white suits with those odd string ties]]... The posthumously published ''Complete Discworld Atlas'' [[note]] completed by Terry's collaborators but based on Pratchett's original notes[[/note]] gave into this reality. A large and previously undescribed tranche of land was christened "The Great Outdoors", and given a vibe which appears to be the Frontier USA of the nineteenth century with a lot of Canada slipping in by default. It has majestic mountains and rivers, fur-traders, refugees from wars and religious persecution fleeing here to make a new life, salt-flats around a salt lake populated by [[UsefulNotes/{{Mormonism}} members of a strict and heretical Omnian sect]]...

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* Despite Creator/TerryPratchett's [[WordOfGod stated decree]] that no part of the ''{{Discworld}}'' ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' should resemble North America, this inevitably crept in over the life of the series. the Tezuman Empire is an {{Expy}} of pre-Conquest Mexico; the existance of a people not unlike Red Indians was revealed in ''Literature/ReaperMan''; ''Literature/WitchesAbroad'' saw a Louisiana-bayou place with a Cajun vibe, complete with riverboats and [[ManInWhite gamblers in white suits with those odd string ties]]... The posthumously published ''Complete Discworld Atlas'' [[note]] completed by Terry's collaborators but based on Pratchett's original notes[[/note]] gave into this reality. A large and previously undescribed tranche of land was christened "The Great Outdoors", and given a vibe which appears to be the Frontier USA of the nineteenth century with a lot of Canada slipping in by default. It has majestic mountains and rivers, fur-traders, refugees from wars and religious persecution fleeing here to make a new life, salt-flats around a salt lake populated by [[UsefulNotes/{{Mormonism}} members of a strict and heretical Omnian sect]]...
21st Feb '17 8:40:22 PM gewunomox
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* "I'm So Bored With The U.S.A.", by TheClash, criticizes the Americanizing of England.

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* "I'm So Bored With The U.S.A.", by TheClash, Music/TheClash, criticizes the Americanizing of England.
21st Feb '17 11:59:54 AM DragonRanger
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* Curtis from ''Anime/PorcoRosso'' is an exceptional #2 example. "Make way for the American!" He plans to be a Hollywood actor and later president. [[UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan Sound familiar?]]

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* Donald Curtis from ''Anime/PorcoRosso'' is an exceptional #2 example. "Make way for the American!" He plans to be a Hollywood actor and later president. [[UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan Sound familiar?]]



* ''Literature/FearLoathingAndGumboOnTheCampaignTrailSeventyTwo'': America under the [[spoiler: Rumsfeld]] administration is quite probably one of the worst representations of Boorish America ever put to writing. You see, President [[spoiler:Rumsfeld]] is a psychopath who bases every single policy on anarcho-capitalist/free market principles while doing ''anything'' to put down anything that even remotely whiffs of communism - to give you an idea, ''Britain under a Labour government'' is too far left for his tastes. The end result is an ultra-right-wing, corporate-authoritarian/quasi-fascist America that [[EveryoneHasStandards even many right-wingers like Nixon, Reagan and Tom Clancy are flat horrified by]]. Under the [[spoiler:Rumsfeld]] administration, all forms of commercial regulation, social welfare and workers' rights are removed and [[spoiler:working wages are slashed in half all across the board]], leaving millions of working-class Americans in dreadful poverty and slave-like working conditions. All environmental standards are removed too, so corporate pollution and climate change are ''actively encouraged''. [[spoiler:President Rumsfeld likes to remove political opponents by diagnosing them with bogus mental health claims and sending them off to {{Bedlam Houses}}, and also maintains black-shirts who look for any books which criticise free market economics and burn them.]] Hollywood becomes a right-wing PropagandaMachine which vilifies FDR and the New Deal as communist plots. To top it all off, the US military is sold off and falls under {{Private Military Contractor}}s who equip soldiers with woefully substandard equipment and even [[spoiler:''execute their own wounded to avoid paying for medical expenses'']]. It really is, if you'll pardon the pun, the land of the Almighty Dollar in the worst possible way.

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* ''Literature/FearLoathingAndGumboOnTheCampaignTrailSeventyTwo'': America under the [[spoiler: [[spoiler:Donald Rumsfeld]] administration is quite probably one of the worst representations of Boorish America ever put to writing. You see, President [[spoiler:Rumsfeld]] is a psychopath who bases every single policy on anarcho-capitalist/free market principles while doing ''anything'' to put down anything that even remotely whiffs of communism - to give you an idea, ''Britain under a Labour government'' is too far left for his tastes. The end result is an ultra-right-wing, corporate-authoritarian/quasi-fascist America that [[EveryoneHasStandards even many right-wingers like Nixon, Reagan and Tom Clancy are flat horrified by]]. Under the [[spoiler:Rumsfeld]] administration, all forms of commercial regulation, social welfare and workers' rights are removed and [[spoiler:working wages are slashed in half all across the board]], leaving millions of working-class Americans in dreadful poverty and slave-like working conditions. All environmental standards are removed too, so corporate pollution and climate change are ''actively encouraged''. [[spoiler:President Rumsfeld likes to remove political opponents by diagnosing them with bogus mental health claims and sending them off to {{Bedlam Houses}}, and also maintains black-shirts who look for any books which criticise free market economics and burn them.]] Hollywood becomes a right-wing PropagandaMachine which vilifies FDR and the New Deal as communist plots. To top it all off, the US military is sold off and falls under {{Private Military Contractor}}s who equip soldiers with woefully substandard equipment and even [[spoiler:''execute their own wounded to avoid paying for medical expenses'']]. It really is, if you'll pardon the pun, the land of the Almighty Dollar in the worst possible way.



* Besides the aforementioned Leonard Apollo, Americans were portrayed rather variously here in ''{{Manga/Eyeshield 21}}'', from nice people like Patrick [[WorthyOpponent "Panther"]] [[AscendedFanBoy Spencer]], [[DumbMuscle Homer]] [[GentleGiant Fitzgerald]], [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Leonard]] [[GrumpyBear Apollo]], to people like [[JerkJock ]] [[SocialDarwinist Oberman]].

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* Besides the aforementioned Leonard Apollo, Americans were portrayed rather variously here in ''{{Manga/Eyeshield 21}}'', from nice people like Patrick [[WorthyOpponent "Panther"]] [[AscendedFanBoy Spencer]], [[DumbMuscle Homer]] [[GentleGiant Fitzgerald]], [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Leonard]] [[GrumpyBear Apollo]], to people like [[JerkJock ]] Donald]] [[SocialDarwinist Oberman]].



*** "I promise not to talk about your massive plastic surgeries" Donald "I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created" Trump in general has a quite negative reputation in Europe since both US and European media show him as the incarnation of boorish America. Him having said that other countries should do more for NATO (among them Germany and France who belong to the main players) made even more sure that a few Europeans are cheering for Clinton and Sanders to become president. But while most people in Europe can't stand him, they also acknowledge that he is an extreme and that the country can't be judged by his behaviour alone.
*** Though not as boisterous as "I promise not to talk about your massive plastic surgeries" Donald "I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created" Trump, Hillary Clinton isn't very popular among Europeans either because...[[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment well]], she's Hillary and her reputation (and her long line of scandals) speaks for itself. The wikileaks revelations that the Democratic primaries were ''deliberately'' rigged toward her over Sanders, whose Socialist background made him more endearing toward Europeans, didn't help much either. All in all, very much unlike 2008 (emphasized by the Germans putting on ''Hope! - Das Obama Musical''), the 2016 US Presidential election is looked upon in the more traditional sense (i.e. both candidates are bad, albeit for vastly different reasons). Didn't help with "I promise not to talk about your massive plastic surgeries" Donald "I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created" Trump's victory in the election that year.

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*** "I promise not to talk about your massive plastic surgeries" Donald "I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created" Trump in general has a quite negative reputation in Europe since both US and European media show him as the incarnation of boorish America. Him having said that other countries should do more for NATO (among them Germany and France who belong to the main players) made even more sure that a few Europeans are cheering for Clinton and Sanders to become president. But while most people in Europe can't stand him, they also acknowledge that he is an extreme and that the country can't be judged by his behaviour alone.
*** Though not as boisterous as "I promise not to talk about your massive plastic surgeries" Donald "I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created" Trump, Hillary Clinton isn't very popular among Europeans either because...[[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment well]], she's Hillary and her reputation (and her long line of scandals) speaks for itself. The wikileaks revelations that the Democratic primaries were ''deliberately'' rigged toward her over Sanders, whose Socialist background made him more endearing toward Europeans, didn't help much either. All in all, very much unlike 2008 (emphasized by the Germans putting on ''Hope! - Das Obama Musical''), the 2016 US Presidential election is looked upon in the more traditional sense (i.e. both candidates are bad, albeit for vastly different reasons). Didn't help with "I promise not to talk about your massive plastic surgeries" Donald "I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created" Trump's victory in the election that year.
14th Feb '17 5:27:42 AM neckpeck
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-> "God bless America! God '''hates America!'''"
---> JackOffJill - Bruises Are Back In Style



*** Donald "I promise not to talk about your massive plastic surgeries" Trump in general has a quite negative reputation in Europe since both US and European media show him as the incarnation of boorish America. Him having said that other countries should do more for NATO (among them Germany and France who belong to the main players) made even more sure that a few Europeans are cheering for Clinton and Sanders to become president. But while most people in Europe can't stand him, they also acknowledge that he is an extreme and that the country can't be judged by his behaviour alone.
*** Though not as boisterous as Donald "I promise not to talk about your massive plastic surgeries" Trump, Hillary Clinton isn't very popular among Europeans either because...[[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment well]], she's Hillary and her reputation (and her long line of scandals) speaks for itself. The wikileaks revelations that the Democratic primaries were ''deliberately'' rigged toward her over Sanders, whose Socialist background made him more endearing toward Europeans, didn't help much either. All in all, very much unlike 2008 (emphasized by the Germans putting on ''Hope! - Das Obama Musical''), the 2016 US Presidential election is looked upon in the more traditional sense (i.e. both candidates are bad, albeit for vastly different reasons). Didn't help with Donald "I promise not to talk about your massive plastic surgeries" Trump's victory in the election that year.

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*** Donald *** "I promise not to talk about your massive plastic surgeries" Donald "I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created" Trump in general has a quite negative reputation in Europe since both US and European media show him as the incarnation of boorish America. Him having said that other countries should do more for NATO (among them Germany and France who belong to the main players) made even more sure that a few Europeans are cheering for Clinton and Sanders to become president. But while most people in Europe can't stand him, they also acknowledge that he is an extreme and that the country can't be judged by his behaviour alone.
*** Though not as boisterous as Donald as "I promise not to talk about your massive plastic surgeries" Donald "I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created" Trump, Hillary Clinton isn't very popular among Europeans either because...[[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment well]], she's Hillary and her reputation (and her long line of scandals) speaks for itself. The wikileaks revelations that the Democratic primaries were ''deliberately'' rigged toward her over Sanders, whose Socialist background made him more endearing toward Europeans, didn't help much either. All in all, very much unlike 2008 (emphasized by the Germans putting on ''Hope! - Das Obama Musical''), the 2016 US Presidential election is looked upon in the more traditional sense (i.e. both candidates are bad, albeit for vastly different reasons). Didn't help with Donald with "I promise not to talk about your massive plastic surgeries" Donald "I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created" Trump's victory in the election that year.
14th Feb '17 5:27:16 AM neckpeck
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-> "God bless America! God '''hates America!'''"
---> JackOffJill - Bruises Are Back In Style



* Donald Curtis from ''Anime/PorcoRosso'' is an exceptional #2 example. "Make way for the American!" He plans to be a Hollywood actor and later president. [[UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan Sound familiar?]]

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* Donald * Curtis from ''Anime/PorcoRosso'' is an exceptional #2 example. "Make way for the American!" He plans to be a Hollywood actor and later president. [[UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan Sound familiar?]]



* ''Literature/FearLoathingAndGumboOnTheCampaignTrailSeventyTwo'': America under the [[spoiler:Donald Rumsfeld]] administration is quite probably one of the worst representations of Boorish America ever put to writing. You see, President [[spoiler:Rumsfeld]] is a psychopath who bases every single policy on anarcho-capitalist/free market principles while doing ''anything'' to put down anything that even remotely whiffs of communism - to give you an idea, ''Britain under a Labour government'' is too far left for his tastes. The end result is an ultra-right-wing, corporate-authoritarian/quasi-fascist America that [[EveryoneHasStandards even many right-wingers like Nixon, Reagan and Tom Clancy are flat horrified by]]. Under the [[spoiler:Rumsfeld]] administration, all forms of commercial regulation, social welfare and workers' rights are removed and [[spoiler:working wages are slashed in half all across the board]], leaving millions of working-class Americans in dreadful poverty and slave-like working conditions. All environmental standards are removed too, so corporate pollution and climate change are ''actively encouraged''. [[spoiler:President Rumsfeld likes to remove political opponents by diagnosing them with bogus mental health claims and sending them off to {{Bedlam Houses}}, and also maintains black-shirts who look for any books which criticise free market economics and burn them.]] Hollywood becomes a right-wing PropagandaMachine which vilifies FDR and the New Deal as communist plots. To top it all off, the US military is sold off and falls under {{Private Military Contractor}}s who equip soldiers with woefully substandard equipment and even [[spoiler:''execute their own wounded to avoid paying for medical expenses'']]. It really is, if you'll pardon the pun, the land of the Almighty Dollar in the worst possible way.

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* ''Literature/FearLoathingAndGumboOnTheCampaignTrailSeventyTwo'': America under the [[spoiler:Donald [[spoiler: Rumsfeld]] administration is quite probably one of the worst representations of Boorish America ever put to writing. You see, President [[spoiler:Rumsfeld]] is a psychopath who bases every single policy on anarcho-capitalist/free market principles while doing ''anything'' to put down anything that even remotely whiffs of communism - to give you an idea, ''Britain under a Labour government'' is too far left for his tastes. The end result is an ultra-right-wing, corporate-authoritarian/quasi-fascist America that [[EveryoneHasStandards even many right-wingers like Nixon, Reagan and Tom Clancy are flat horrified by]]. Under the [[spoiler:Rumsfeld]] administration, all forms of commercial regulation, social welfare and workers' rights are removed and [[spoiler:working wages are slashed in half all across the board]], leaving millions of working-class Americans in dreadful poverty and slave-like working conditions. All environmental standards are removed too, so corporate pollution and climate change are ''actively encouraged''. [[spoiler:President Rumsfeld likes to remove political opponents by diagnosing them with bogus mental health claims and sending them off to {{Bedlam Houses}}, and also maintains black-shirts who look for any books which criticise free market economics and burn them.]] Hollywood becomes a right-wing PropagandaMachine which vilifies FDR and the New Deal as communist plots. To top it all off, the US military is sold off and falls under {{Private Military Contractor}}s who equip soldiers with woefully substandard equipment and even [[spoiler:''execute their own wounded to avoid paying for medical expenses'']]. It really is, if you'll pardon the pun, the land of the Almighty Dollar in the worst possible way.



* Besides the aforementioned Leonard Apollo, Americans were portrayed rather variously here in ''{{Manga/Eyeshield 21}}'', from nice people like Patrick [[WorthyOpponent "Panther"]] [[AscendedFanBoy Spencer]], [[DumbMuscle Homer]] [[GentleGiant Fitzgerald]], [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Leonard]] [[GrumpyBear Apollo]], to people like [[JerkJock Donald]] [[SocialDarwinist Oberman]].

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* Besides the aforementioned Leonard Apollo, Americans were portrayed rather variously here in ''{{Manga/Eyeshield 21}}'', from nice people like Patrick [[WorthyOpponent "Panther"]] [[AscendedFanBoy Spencer]], [[DumbMuscle Homer]] [[GentleGiant Fitzgerald]], [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Leonard]] [[GrumpyBear Apollo]], to people like [[JerkJock Donald]] ]] [[SocialDarwinist Oberman]].



*** Donald Trump in general has a quite negative reputation in Europe since both US and European media show him as the incarnation of boorish America. Him having said that other countries should do more for NATO (among them Germany and France who belong to the main players) made even more sure that a few Europeans are cheering for Clinton and Sanders to become president. But while most people in Europe can't stand him, they also acknowledge that he is an extreme and that the country can't be judged by his behaviour alone.
*** Though not as boisterous as Trump, Hillary Clinton isn't very popular among Europeans either because...[[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment well]], she's Hillary and her reputation (and her long line of scandals) speaks for itself. The wikileaks revelations that the Democratic primaries were ''deliberately'' rigged toward her over Sanders, whose Socialist background made him more endearing toward Europeans, didn't help much either. All in all, very much unlike 2008 (emphasized by the Germans putting on ''Hope! - Das Obama Musical''), the 2016 US Presidential election is looked upon in the more traditional sense (i.e. both candidates are bad, albeit for vastly different reasons). Didn't help with Trump's victory in the election that year.

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*** *** Donald "I promise not to talk about your massive plastic surgeries" Trump in general has a quite negative reputation in Europe since both US and European media show him as the incarnation of boorish America. Him having said that other countries should do more for NATO (among them Germany and France who belong to the main players) made even more sure that a few Europeans are cheering for Clinton and Sanders to become president. But while most people in Europe can't stand him, they also acknowledge that he is an extreme and that the country can't be judged by his behaviour alone.
*** Though not as boisterous as Donald "I promise not to talk about your massive plastic surgeries" Trump, Hillary Clinton isn't very popular among Europeans either because...[[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment well]], she's Hillary and her reputation (and her long line of scandals) speaks for itself. The wikileaks revelations that the Democratic primaries were ''deliberately'' rigged toward her over Sanders, whose Socialist background made him more endearing toward Europeans, didn't help much either. All in all, very much unlike 2008 (emphasized by the Germans putting on ''Hope! - Das Obama Musical''), the 2016 US Presidential election is looked upon in the more traditional sense (i.e. both candidates are bad, albeit for vastly different reasons). Didn't help with Donald "I promise not to talk about your massive plastic surgeries" Trump's victory in the election that year.
11th Feb '17 9:52:46 PM baschapp
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'''Type 2: United Shithole of America'''

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'''Type 2: United Utter Shithole of America'''
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