History Main / DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans

10th May '17 3:03:11 AM Shadowgazer
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Compare with DespotismJustifiesTheMeans, which depicts the dystopia as a mere side effect, not as an end in itself. The type of villain pursuing Dystopia Justifies The Means will not be satisfied just with obtaining ultimate power; they will desire to use that power towards a particularly vile end - to remake the world into a place of suffering for its own sake, valuing it more than their own power. Compare also with ToCreateAPlaygroundForEvil - this trope is to that what LawfulEvil is to ChaoticEvil.

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Compare with DespotismJustifiesTheMeans, which depicts the dystopia as a mere side effect, not as an end in itself. The type of villain pursuing Dystopia Justifies The Means will not be satisfied just with obtaining ultimate power; they will desire to use that power towards a particularly vile end - to remake the world into a place of suffering for its own sake, valuing it just as much, if not more than their own power. Compare also with ToCreateAPlaygroundForEvil - this trope is to that what LawfulEvil is to ChaoticEvil.
9th May '17 3:52:58 AM Shadowgazer
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This trope can occasionally overlap with UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans; in such cases, the deluded villain has an idea of a "better" world that the majority regard as NightmareFuel. In general, however, this trope refers to characters who wish to create a {{Dystopia}} and have no illusions or expectations that people will be happier or better off under it, and in fact would absolutely enjoy it if people are miserable and/or worse off under it.

Compare with DespotismJustifiesTheMeans, which depicts the dystopia as a mere side effect, not as an end in itself. The type of villain pursuing Dystopia Justifies The Means will not be satisfied just with obtaining ultimate power; they will desire to use that power towards a particularly vile end - to remake the world into a place of suffering for its own sake. Compare also with ToCreateAPlaygroundForEvil - this trope is to that what LawfulEvil is to ChaoticEvil.

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This trope can occasionally occasionally, very rarely, overlap with UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans; in such cases, the reaally deluded villain has an idea of a "better" world that the majority regard as NightmareFuel. In general, however, this trope refers to characters who wish to create a {{Dystopia}} and have no illusions or expectations that people will be happier or better off under it, and in fact would absolutely enjoy it if people are miserable and/or worse off under it.

Compare with DespotismJustifiesTheMeans, which depicts the dystopia as a mere side effect, not as an end in itself. The type of villain pursuing Dystopia Justifies The Means will not be satisfied just with obtaining ultimate power; they will desire to use that power towards a particularly vile end - to remake the world into a place of suffering for its own sake.sake, valuing it more than their own power. Compare also with ToCreateAPlaygroundForEvil - this trope is to that what LawfulEvil is to ChaoticEvil.
4th May '17 12:01:18 AM tenthyr
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* In ''Literature/HaloSilentium'', this turns out to be the goal of [[TheVirus the Flood]], or more accurately [[spoiler:their former identity the {{Precursors}}. They were so angered by one of their own created races, the Forerunners, nearly wiping them out]] that they vow to create a new universe where they will be able to create and destroy as they see fit.

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* In ''Literature/HaloSilentium'', this turns out to be the goal of [[TheVirus the Flood]], or more accurately [[spoiler:their former identity the {{Precursors}}. They were so angered by one of their own created races, the Forerunners, nearly wiping them out]] that they vow to create a new universe where they will be able to create and destroy as they see fit.fit, and where their creations will suffer to much to even conceive of rebellion.
4th Mar '17 1:32:45 PM nombretomado
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* MarvelComics has [[Comicbook/DoctorStrange Dormammu]], the immortal and unstoppable god-tyrant of the mystical "Dark Dimension", worshipped as a deity in thousands of other universes, something worse than a demon, older and far more powerful than any elder god, possessor of sufficient might to have defeated cosmic entities such as the Phoenix Force or Eternity in personal combat, able to rewrite entire universes, and creator of kings of hell of the highest order, with the ultimate goal of slaughtering any rival higher powers, assume control of all life and afterlife, and turn both into an inescapable neverending torture camp from birth to death and anything beyond. ArchEnemy of Doctor Strange, and the first classic DimensionLord. Think Darkseid taken to a much higher scaled ultimate extreme. Some of his plots stretching billions of years before coming to fruition, but luckily he's usually extremely arrogant and not a particularly inventive schemer. Then again he doesn't need to be because he is a faltine, one of the most powerful known {{cosmic entit|y}}ies in existence(for a while he could have been considered an EldritchAbomination until more information was uncovered on him and still could be in the since only ''two'' faltine have every been encountered in the billion years existence of 616 universe).

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* MarvelComics Creator/MarvelComics has [[Comicbook/DoctorStrange Dormammu]], the immortal and unstoppable god-tyrant of the mystical "Dark Dimension", worshipped as a deity in thousands of other universes, something worse than a demon, older and far more powerful than any elder god, possessor of sufficient might to have defeated cosmic entities such as the Phoenix Force or Eternity in personal combat, able to rewrite entire universes, and creator of kings of hell of the highest order, with the ultimate goal of slaughtering any rival higher powers, assume control of all life and afterlife, and turn both into an inescapable neverending torture camp from birth to death and anything beyond. ArchEnemy of Doctor Strange, and the first classic DimensionLord. Think Darkseid taken to a much higher scaled ultimate extreme. Some of his plots stretching billions of years before coming to fruition, but luckily he's usually extremely arrogant and not a particularly inventive schemer. Then again he doesn't need to be because he is a faltine, one of the most powerful known {{cosmic entit|y}}ies in existence(for a while he could have been considered an EldritchAbomination until more information was uncovered on him and still could be in the since only ''two'' faltine have every been encountered in the billion years existence of 616 universe).
24th Feb '17 12:03:01 PM Allronix
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** The Dread Masters make Jadus look like a ditherer. Sith Lords who are united in a HiveMind and have clearly gone insane ''centuries'' ago, they plan on destroying both the Sith Empire and Republic and instilling universal fear and terror across the galaxy. they view pain, terror, and death as the ultimate truths of the galaxy and believe a world where ''"Mothers will kill daughters as soldiers weep in terror"'' is the pinnacle of enlightenment.
31st Jan '17 4:37:16 PM Psyclone
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** And Skull Face is even WORSE. He plans to make the world suffer for what he went through, via the use of ethnic-cleansing bioweapons that will kill anyone of a specific culture (and the First World is indeed first on the list) and the next-generation in nuclear warfare: ''low-detection nuke crafting kits'' that are sold to second-world countries and terrorist nations but are all secretly controlled by him alone. His goal is supposedly to get revenge on foreigners for being burned alive in his home town, but deep down he just wants everyone to suffer.

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** And Skull Face is even WORSE. He plans to make the world suffer for what he went through, via the use of ethnic-cleansing bioweapons that will kill anyone of that speaks a specific culture (and the First World is indeed language (with ''English'' being first on the list) and the next-generation in nuclear warfare: ''low-detection nuke crafting kits'' that are sold to second-world countries and terrorist nations but are all secretly controlled by him alone. His goal is supposedly to get revenge on foreigners for being burned alive in his home town, but deep down he just wants everyone to suffer.
14th Jan '17 1:47:29 AM Dragon101
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* [[BigBad Grandfather]] in ''WesternAnimation/KidsNextDoor''. His intent is nothing less than a CrapsackWorld where kids, and the second time, anyone who had ever ''been'' a kid, toils endlessly to [[TrademarkFavoriteFood create tapioca pudding]] for his consumption. The second time, he plans to turn everyone in the world (KND included) into [[OurZombiesAreDifferent senior citizombies]] that are his obedient slaves.

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* [[BigBad Grandfather]] in ''WesternAnimation/KidsNextDoor''.''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor''. His intent is nothing less than a CrapsackWorld where kids, and the second time, anyone who had ever ''been'' a kid, toils endlessly to [[TrademarkFavoriteFood create tapioca pudding]] for his consumption. The second time, he plans to turn everyone in the world (KND included) into [[OurZombiesAreDifferent senior citizombies]] that are his obedient slaves.
14th Jan '17 1:46:12 AM Dragon101
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* [[BigBad Grandfather]] in ''Series/KidsNextDoor''. His intent is nothing less than a CrapsackWorld where kids, and the second time, anyone who had ever ''been'' a kid, toils endlessly to [[TrademarkFavoriteFood create tapioca pudding]] for his consumption. The second time, he plans to turn everyone in the world (KND included) into [[OurZombiesAreDifferent senior citizombies]] that are his obedient slaves.

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* [[BigBad Grandfather]] in ''Series/KidsNextDoor''.''WesternAnimation/KidsNextDoor''. His intent is nothing less than a CrapsackWorld where kids, and the second time, anyone who had ever ''been'' a kid, toils endlessly to [[TrademarkFavoriteFood create tapioca pudding]] for his consumption. The second time, he plans to turn everyone in the world (KND included) into [[OurZombiesAreDifferent senior citizombies]] that are his obedient slaves.
14th Jan '17 1:16:40 AM Dragon101
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* [[BigBad Grandfather]] in ''Series/KidsNextDoor''. His intent is nothing less than a CrapsackWorld where kids, and the second time, anyone who had ever ''been'' a kid, toils endlessly to [[TrademarkFavoriteFood create tapioca pudding]] for his consumption. The second time, he plans to turn everyone in the world (KND included) into [[OurZombiesAreDifferent senior citizombies]] that are his obedient slaves.
8th Jan '17 12:58:40 PM nombretomado
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* The Smiler, BigBad of ''{{Transmetropolitan}}'', openly admits to running for President so that he can mess around with America until bits start falling off. [[PresidentEvil He gets his wish.]] The results aren't pretty.

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* The Smiler, BigBad of ''{{Transmetropolitan}}'', ''ComicBook/{{Transmetropolitan}}'', openly admits to running for President so that he can mess around with America until bits start falling off. [[PresidentEvil He gets his wish.]] The results aren't pretty.
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