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23rd Aug '16 6:02:01 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* In ''Literature/HaloSilentium'', this turns out to be the goal of [[TheVirus the Flood]], or more accurately [[spoiler:their former identity the {{Precursors}}. They were so angered by their creation the Forerunners defying them by resisting their scheduled extermination]], that they vow to create a new universe where they will be able to create and destroy as they see fit.

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* In ''Literature/HaloSilentium'', this turns out to be the goal of [[TheVirus the Flood]], or more accurately [[spoiler:their former identity the {{Precursors}}. They were so angered by one of their creation own created races, the Forerunners defying Forerunners, nearly wiping them by resisting their scheduled extermination]], out]] that they vow to create a new universe where they will be able to create and destroy as they see fit.
13th Aug '16 7:31:13 AM Verum
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3rd Aug '16 5:41:11 PM WillBGood
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-->"Now if you were a little more intelligent, youíd ask: What of us, the rulers? What of me, Ellsworth Monkton Toohey ? And Iíd say, Yes, youíre right. Iíll achieve no more than you will. Iíll have no purpose save to keep you contended. To lie, to flatter you, to praise you, to inflate your vanity. To make speeches about the people and the common good. Peter, my poor old friend, Iím the most selfless man youíve ever known. I have less independence than you, whom I just forced to sell your soul. Youíve used people at least for the sake of what you could get from them for yourself. I want nothing for myself. I use people for the sake of what I can do to them. Itís my only function and satisfaction. I have no private purpose. I want power. I want my world of the future. Let all live for all. Let all sacrifice and none profit. Let all suffer and none enjoy. Let progress stop. Let all stagnate. Thereís equality in stagnation. All subjugated to the will of all. Universal slavery Ė without even the dignity of a master. Slavery to slavery. A great circle Ė and a total equality. The world of the future."

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-->"Now if you were a little more intelligent, youíd ask: What of us, the rulers? What of me, Ellsworth Monkton Toohey ? And Iíd say, Yes, youíre right. Iíll achieve no more than you will. Iíll have no purpose save to keep you contended.contented. To lie, to flatter you, to praise you, to inflate your vanity. To make speeches about the people and the common good. Peter, my poor old friend, Iím the most selfless man youíve ever known. I have less independence than you, whom I just forced to sell your soul. Youíve used people at least for the sake of what you could get from them for yourself. I want nothing for myself. I use people for the sake of what I can do to them. Itís my only function and satisfaction. I have no private purpose. I want power. I want my world of the future. Let all live for all. Let all sacrifice and none profit. Let all suffer and none enjoy. Let progress stop. Let all stagnate. Thereís equality in stagnation. All subjugated to the will of all. Universal slavery Ė without even the dignity of a master. Slavery to slavery. A great circle Ė and a total equality. The world of the future."
26th Jun '16 8:45:42 PM PaulA
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* "Shigalyovism", the philosophy of the terrorist group featured in ''Literature/{{Demons}}'' by Creator/FyodorDostoevsky.
19th Jun '16 10:34:46 PM RaritastheWeeabooHunter
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* This is the '''entire''' belief of ''VisualNovel/DanganRonpa's'' [[spoiler:Ultimate Despair, which envisioned and ''succeeded'' in creating a world that only knows and forever experiences despair.]]



12th Jun '16 1:36:59 PM Ramidel
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* ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'': This is the goal of the Ebon Dragon. What about the rest of the Yozis, you ask? [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Their wishes matter not for him!]]

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* ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'': ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'':
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This is the goal of the Ebon Dragon. What about the rest of the Yozis, you ask? [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Their wishes matter not for him!]]him!]]
** Malfeas' goal also fits this, though not ForTheEvulz. Malfeas is simply a [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds tormented being of rage and hatred]] who used to rule the cosmos, and he wants to turn Creation into a new Hell as punishment for its sin against him.
** Cecelyne's nature means that any goal she pursues has to be this by definition. She is the Lawgiver, but any law she brings is inherently arbitrary and inconsistent and privileges the strong above the weak. She is [[MadeOfEvil made of injustice almost as much as she is made of silver sand]], and she wants to become a part of Creation once more.
7th Jun '16 7:06:34 PM TrulyDeceptive
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Compare with DespotismJustifiesTheMeans, which depicts the dystopia as a mere side effect, not as an end in itself. The type of villain pursuing Dystopia Justifies The Means will not be satisfied just with obtaining ultimate power; they will desire to use that power towards a particularly vile end - to remake the world into a place of suffering for its own sake. Compare also with ToCreateAPlaygroundForEvil - this trope to that is what LawfulEvil is to ChaoticEvil.

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Compare with DespotismJustifiesTheMeans, which depicts the dystopia as a mere side effect, not as an end in itself. The type of villain pursuing Dystopia Justifies The Means will not be satisfied just with obtaining ultimate power; they will desire to use that power towards a particularly vile end - to remake the world into a place of suffering for its own sake. Compare also with ToCreateAPlaygroundForEvil - this trope is to that is what LawfulEvil is to ChaoticEvil.
25th Mar '16 10:56:20 AM FordPrefect
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* Simon Phoenix from ''Film/DemolitionMan'' is a ChaoticEvil mass murderer who wants ultimate freedom just so he can destroy, plunder, and rape as much as he wants. This is the primary conflict with his boss Dr. Cocteau, the [[WellIntentionedExtremist benevolent dictator]] of the San Angeles future society, who represents the UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans side because he wants to [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill preserve peace by suppressing free will]]. Phoenix eventually murders and usurps Cocteau's position to give the people his own ideal society of constant death and chaos.

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* Simon Phoenix from ''Film/DemolitionMan'' is a ChaoticEvil mass murderer who wants ultimate freedom just so he can destroy, plunder, and rape as much as he wants. This is the primary conflict with his boss Dr. Cocteau, the [[WellIntentionedExtremist benevolent dictator]] of the San Angeles future society, who represents the UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans side because he wants to [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill preserve peace by suppressing free will]]. Phoenix eventually murders has Cocteau murdered[[note]]he was [[RestrainingBolt conditioned]] not to do it directly[[/note]] and usurps Cocteau's his position to give the people his own ideal society of constant death and chaos.
13th Mar '16 4:47:11 PM eroock
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The third, final, and most despicable trope in the unholy trinity of villainous objectives, Dystopia Justifies The Means is where the goal of the BigBad is nothing less than the deliberate creation of a {{Dystopia}}, a land, planet, universe or multiverse of perpetual misery and suffering, or some other form of evil. The result can be a CrapsackWorld, VillainWorld, HellOnEarth, or some combination thereof.

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The third, final, and most despicable trope in the unholy trinity of villainous objectives, Dystopia Justifies The the Means is where the goal of the BigBad is nothing less than the deliberate creation of a {{Dystopia}}, a land, planet, universe or multiverse of perpetual misery and suffering, or some other form of evil. The result can be a CrapsackWorld, VillainWorld, HellOnEarth, or some combination thereof.
1st Mar '16 7:32:07 AM TrulyDeceptive
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* Then there's [[CardCarryingVillain Yuuki]] [[Troll Terumi]] from ''VideoGame/BlazBlue''.

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* Then there's [[CardCarryingVillain Yuuki]] [[Troll [[{{Troll}} Terumi]] from ''VideoGame/BlazBlue''.
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