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11th May '18 1:53:53 AM SebastianGray
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* The ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' universe is one gigantic [=Dystopia=], born from the sheer, horrific build-up of intolerance, hatred, repression, religious fanaticism, cruelty, hedonism, decadence, greed, and every other vice you could possibly imagine, over the span of millennia. Quite possibly the worst component, however, is simply neglect. The fact that many of said vices have '''''physical form''''', are sentient, and actively working towards the eventual destruction of everything probably doesn't help. Nothing is ''ever'' going to get better there. There's a faction of {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s who are considered to be naive ''because'' of that belief. Given the setting, there's probably a kernel of truth to that.

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The ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' universe is one gigantic [=Dystopia=], born from the sheer, horrific build-up of intolerance, hatred, repression, religious fanaticism, cruelty, hedonism, decadence, greed, and every other vice you could possibly imagine, over the span of millennia. Quite possibly the worst component, however, is simply neglect. The fact that many of said vices have '''''physical form''''', are sentient, and actively working towards the eventual destruction of everything probably doesn't help. Nothing is ''ever'' going to get better there. There's a faction of {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s who are considered to be naive ''because'' of that belief. Given the setting, there's probably a kernel of truth to that.that.
** In ''TabletopGame/{{Necromunda}}''[[note]]a ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' GaidenGame[[/note]], the mid-levels of [[MegaCity Hive Primus]][[note]]known as Hive City in some background material[[/note]] is a wretched place consisting of massively overcrowded hab zones and heavily polluted manufactory zones where the population labour to produce goods and services for their Houses and the elite on the Spire. These levels are probably the ''safest'' part of the hive. The underhive (where the majority of the game is set) is where those exiled from further up the hive go where even the safer districts, protected by vicious gangs loyal to the Clan Houses, are still places where life is nasty, brutish and short and law extends as far as a gun can shoot. Even further downhive, outlaws and mutants fight to the death over a few scraps of food and law has completely broken down. Oh, and the Spire? It's a DeadlyDecadentCourt where the Noble Houses live off the wealth produced by the Clan Houses and cold-bloodedly murder each other for control of the hive, and they look on sending a small band of their kids down to the worst parts of the underhive as a [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame ''training mission'']].
21st Apr '18 6:29:48 PM eyebones
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* The society seems utopian, until someone breaks a rule. The rule breaker dropa straight out of heaven into a Hell created for punishment.


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* The society seems utopian, until someone breaks a rule. The rule breaker dropa drops straight out of heaven into a Hell created for punishment.

21st Apr '18 6:28:47 PM eyebones
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Often,they can be too one-note. The author is thinking "capitalism sucks!", for instance, and everything wrong with the world turns out be clearly the fault of nasty {{Corrupt Corporate Executive}}s and their nasty, greedy {{megacorp}}orations. Conversely, it could be "governments suck!" and the corporations are the last line of defense against the evil, totalitarian [[ObstructiveBureaucrat bureaucrats]]. Either way, it is just one note.

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Often,they Often, they can be too one-note. The author is thinking "capitalism sucks!", for instance, and everything wrong with the world turns out be clearly the fault of nasty {{Corrupt Corporate Executive}}s and their nasty, greedy {{megacorp}}orations. Conversely, it could be "governments suck!" and the corporations are the last line of defense against the evil, totalitarian [[ObstructiveBureaucrat bureaucrats]]. Either way, it is just one note.
21st Apr '18 6:28:18 PM eyebones
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->''"Do you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating? It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A world of fear and treachery and torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but more merciless as it refines itself. Progress in our world will be progress toward more pain. The old civilizations claimed that they were founded upon love and justice. Ours is founded upon hatred. In our world there will be no emotions except fear, hatred, triumph, and self-abasement. Everything else we will destroy--everything."''

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->''"Do you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating? It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A world of fear and treachery and torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but more merciless as it refines itself. Progress in our world will be progress toward more pain. The old civilizations claimed that they were founded upon love and justice. Ours is founded upon hatred. In our world there will be no emotions except fear, hatred, triumph, and self-abasement. Everything else we will destroy--everything."''



Some dystopias have its citizens living out dehumanized and fearful lives, feeling the [[BigBrotherIsWatching government's eyes]] upon them at every waking moment and being afraid to step out of line for even a moment lest they be [[PoliceBrutality brutalized by the police]] or worse, "disappeared" by the SecretPolice. Other dystopias have the people as happy as any utopian world, but through GovernmentDrugEnforcement, TheEvilsOfFreeWill or HappinessInSlavery. Some dystopias are [[EmpireWithADarkSecret Empires With A Dark Secret]], with those who find out about the secret often being ReleasedToElsewhere. Some are BreadAndCircuses worlds where a minority of people are brutally repressed; any number of traits can mark out that minority (such as, say, reading books). And some Dystopias are such only for the law-breakers. One man's Utopia can easily be another man's Dystopia, and so on.

Expect [[FascistsBedTime curfews]] and [[DystopianEdict bans on "love"]] to show up early in; they're a sure-fire cue card for oppression.

Occasionally, a FishOutOfWater will seem to arrive in a {{Utopia}}, only to find that it's really a dystopia for all but the elite.

May have PeaceAndLoveIncorporated and GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul, and frequently have an AsceticAesthetic towards buildings. Compare with AuthorTract, AfterTheEnd, JustBeforeTheEnd, VillainWorld, and CyberPunk. Contrast with {{Utopia}} and MarySuetopia, the latter often an unintentional Dystopia created by the author.

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Some dystopias have its citizens living Occasionally, a FishOutOfWater will seem to arrive in a {{Utopia}}, only to find that it's really a dystopia for all but the elite.

Here are some common flavors of dystopia:
* CrapsackWorld
* Citizens live
out dehumanized and fearful lives, feeling the [[BigBrotherIsWatching government's eyes]] upon them at every waking moment and moment, being afraid to step out of line for even a moment lest they be [[PoliceBrutality brutalized by the police]] brutalized]] or worse, "disappeared" by the SecretPolice. Other dystopias have the people as happy as any utopian world, but through GovernmentDrugEnforcement, TheEvilsOfFreeWill or HappinessInSlavery. Some dystopias are [[EmpireWithADarkSecret Empires With A Dark Secret]], with those who find out about the secret often being ReleasedToElsewhere. Some are BreadAndCircuses worlds where a minority of people are brutally repressed; any number of traits can mark out that minority (such as, say, reading books). And some Dystopias are such only for the law-breakers. One man's Utopia can easily be another man's Dystopia, and so on.

Expect [[FascistsBedTime curfews]] and [[DystopianEdict bans on "love"]] to show up early in; they're a sure-fire cue card for oppression.

Occasionally, a FishOutOfWater will seem to arrive
oppression.
* People are as happy as anyone
in a {{Utopia}}, utopian world, but only to through GovernmentDrugEnforcement, TheEvilsOfFreeWill or HappinessInSlavery.
* EmpireWithADarkSecret, with those who
find that it's really out about the secret in danger of being ReleasedToElsewhere.
* BreadAndCircuses worlds where
a dystopia minority of people are brutally repressed; any number of traits can define the minority, such as being book readers.
* The society seems utopian, until someone breaks a rule. The rule breaker dropa straight out of heaven into a Hell created
for all but the elite.

May have PeaceAndLoveIncorporated and GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul, and frequently have an AsceticAesthetic towards buildings. Compare with AuthorTract, AfterTheEnd, JustBeforeTheEnd, VillainWorld, and CyberPunk.
punishment.


Contrast with {{Utopia}} and MarySuetopia, the latter often an unintentional Dystopia created by the author.
21st Apr '18 6:03:56 PM eyebones
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A dystopia is a setting that takes a sociopolitical issue and presents how everything about it will go wrong through the use of {{deconstruction}}, or by simply turning it UpToEleven.

The trick to creating a Dystopia is by taking a social issue or political idea, as {{utopia}}s also do, and push it far to the cynical side of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism, often creating a CrapsackWorld in the process. The author is thinking "capitalism sucks!", for instance, and everything wrong with the world turns out be clearly the fault of nasty {{Corrupt Corporate Executive}}s and their nasty, greedy {{megacorp}}orations. Conversely, it could be "governments suck!" and the corporations are the last line of defense against the evil, totalitarian [[ObstructiveBureaucrat bureaucrats]].

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A dystopia is a setting that takes a sociopolitical issue and presents how everything about it will go wrong through the use of {{deconstruction}}, or by simply turning turns it UpToEleven.

The trick to creating a Dystopia is by taking a social issue or political idea, as {{utopia}}s also do, and push it far to the cynical side of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism, often creating a CrapsackWorld in the process.Often,they can be too one-note. The author is thinking "capitalism sucks!", for instance, and everything wrong with the world turns out be clearly the fault of nasty {{Corrupt Corporate Executive}}s and their nasty, greedy {{megacorp}}orations. Conversely, it could be "governments suck!" and the corporations are the last line of defense against the evil, totalitarian [[ObstructiveBureaucrat bureaucrats]]. \n Either way, it is just one note.



Some dystopias have its citizens living out dehumanized and often fearful lives, [[BigBrotherIsWatching feeling the government's eyes upon them at every waking moment]] and afraid to step out of line for even a moment lest they be [[PoliceBrutality brutalized by the police]] or worse, taken away by the SecretPolice. Other dystopias have the people as happy as any utopian world, [[BreadAndCircuses but through]] GovernmentDrugEnforcement, TheEvilsOfFreeWill or HappinessInSlavery. Some dystopias are [[EmpireWithADarkSecret Empires With A Dark Secret]], with those who find out about the secret often being ReleasedToElsewhere. Some are BreadAndCircuses worlds where a minority of people are brutally repressed; any number of traits can mark out that minority (such as, say, reading books). And some Dystopias are such only for the law-breakers. One man's Utopia can easily be another man's Dystopia, and so on.

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Some dystopias have its citizens living out dehumanized and often fearful lives, feeling the [[BigBrotherIsWatching feeling the government's eyes eyes]] upon them at every waking moment]] moment and being afraid to step out of line for even a moment lest they be [[PoliceBrutality brutalized by the police]] or worse, taken away "disappeared" by the SecretPolice. Other dystopias have the people as happy as any utopian world, [[BreadAndCircuses but through]] through GovernmentDrugEnforcement, TheEvilsOfFreeWill or HappinessInSlavery. Some dystopias are [[EmpireWithADarkSecret Empires With A Dark Secret]], with those who find out about the secret often being ReleasedToElsewhere. Some are BreadAndCircuses worlds where a minority of people are brutally repressed; any number of traits can mark out that minority (such as, say, reading books). And some Dystopias are such only for the law-breakers. One man's Utopia can easily be another man's Dystopia, and so on.
5th Apr '18 9:24:56 PM Gamermaster
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* Runessa's homeworld in ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', as revealed in ''[[AllThereInTheManual [=StrikerS=] Sound Stage X]]''. Living in a land of nationalism, racism, and pointless wars, there was a severe lack of food and daily necessities, but there were plenty of weapons to go around. Runessa mentioned that, for as long as she remembered, [[ChildSoldiers she had always slept with guns on her side]], and she had always thought that she was going to live there for the rest of her life until she was shot and an NGO rescued her. So war-torn was her land, that even during the Jail Scaglietti incident of ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikerS'', which can best be described as "all hell breaking loose", she considered Mid-childa to be an unbelievably peaceful place.

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* Runessa's homeworld in ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'', as revealed in ''[[AllThereInTheManual [=StrikerS=] Sound Stage X]]''.''AudioPlay/StrikersSoundStageX''. Living in a land of nationalism, racism, and pointless wars, there was a severe lack of food and daily necessities, but there were plenty of weapons to go around. Runessa mentioned that, for as long as she remembered, [[ChildSoldiers she had always slept with guns on her side]], and she had always thought that she was going to live there for the rest of her life until she was shot and an NGO rescued her. So war-torn was her land, that even during the Jail Scaglietti incident of ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikerS'', which can best be described as "all hell breaking loose", she considered Mid-childa to be an unbelievably peaceful place.
30th Mar '18 8:01:58 AM Xaeroxe
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A dystopia is a setting that takes a sociopolitical issue and presents how everything about it will go wrong through the use of {{deconstruction}}, or by simply turning it it UpToEleven.

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A dystopia is a setting that takes a sociopolitical issue and presents how everything about it will go wrong through the use of {{deconstruction}}, or by simply turning it it UpToEleven.
28th Mar '18 8:28:07 AM eyebones
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The trick to creating a Dystopia is by taking a social issue or political idea, as {{utopia}}s also do, and push it far to the cynical side of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism, often creating a CrapsackWorld in the process. For example, The author is thinking "capitalism sucks!", for instance, and everything wrong with the world turns out be clearly the fault of nasty {{Corrupt Corporate Executive}}s and their nasty, greedy {{megacorp}}orations. Conversely, it could be "governments suck!" and the corporations are the last line of defense against the evil, totalitarian [[ObstructiveBureaucrat bureaucrats]]. The better dystopias seem to be about how a multitude of things have gone wrong, and now here we are, surviving with as much grace as possible. It is common in literature to create a dystopia through the {{Deconstruction}} of an earlier creator's {{Utopia}}, showing how horrible it would be to live in that Utopia. Another purpose is to serve as a BigBad for TheHero and his friends to revolt against; World As Obstacle, as it were. These are more likely to be toppled, or at least escaped from, than others.

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The trick to creating a Dystopia is by taking a social issue or political idea, as {{utopia}}s also do, and push it far to the cynical side of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism, often creating a CrapsackWorld in the process. For example, The author is thinking "capitalism sucks!", for instance, and everything wrong with the world turns out be clearly the fault of nasty {{Corrupt Corporate Executive}}s and their nasty, greedy {{megacorp}}orations. Conversely, it could be "governments suck!" and the corporations are the last line of defense against the evil, totalitarian [[ObstructiveBureaucrat bureaucrats]].

The better dystopias seem to be about how a multitude of things have gone wrong, and now here we are, surviving with as much grace as possible. It is common in literature to create a dystopia through the {{Deconstruction}} of an earlier creator's {{Utopia}}, showing how horrible it would be to live in that Utopia. Another purpose is to serve as a BigBad for TheHero and his friends to revolt against; World As Obstacle, as it were. These are more likely to be toppled, or at least escaped from, than others.
28th Mar '18 8:26:26 AM eyebones
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Dystopia is Ancient Greek for "bad place."

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Dystopia "Dystopia" is Ancient Greek for "bad place."
28th Mar '18 8:25:23 AM eyebones
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In speculative fiction, a dystopia is a setting that takes a sociopolitical issue and presents how everything about it will go wrong through the use of {{deconstruction}}, or by simply turning it it UpToEleven.

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In speculative fiction, a Dystopia is Ancient Greek for "bad place."

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dystopia is a setting that takes a sociopolitical issue and presents how everything about it will go wrong through the use of {{deconstruction}}, or by simply turning it it UpToEleven.
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