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18th Jun '17 8:27:36 PM isoycrazy
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-->'''Mario''': You know what bothers me about Wooster's betrayal?
-->'''Toad''': The sheer, heinous, enormity of it?
-->'''Mario''': No. It means [[TheDitz the King]] was right about something!

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-->'''Mario''': You know what bothers me about Wooster's betrayal?
-->'''Toad''':
betrayal?\\
'''Toad''':
The sheer, heinous, enormity of it?
-->'''Mario''':
it?\\
'''Mario''':
No. It means [[TheDitz the King]] was right about something!



-->'''Sonic''': ''[regarding Mobie the cave-bear]'' We should've left the big dope frozen!
-->'''Antoine''': For once, Sonic is right! He is ze librarian!
-->'''Sally''': I think you mean ''barbarian'', Antoine!

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-->'''Sonic''': ''[regarding Mobie the cave-bear]'' We should've left the big dope frozen!
-->'''Antoine''':
frozen!\\
'''Antoine''':
For once, Sonic is right! He is ze librarian!
-->'''Sally''':
librarian!\\
'''Sally''':
I think you mean ''barbarian'', Antoine!



-->'''Xander''': "Cordelia Chase. Junior Miss California, seventh grade. May Queen, Queen of Sunnydale High 1996, prettiest girl in Sunnydale eighteen years running. Miss 'I have to have the most expensive thing not because it's the best, but because it's expensive'. Used to nothing but the very best of everything for all her life, until maybe lately. And ''then'' she gets slapped in the face with the fact that the guy she maybe falls in love with ''isn't'', ''can't be'', ''doesn't'' get a rush of perfect fucking happiness ''just'' from being with ''her''. Long term? Man, that knowledge would eat at and fucking ''destroy'' her."
-->'''Angel''': "She's stronger than that."
-->'''Xander''': "She shouldn't ''have'' to be... I dunno much. But I do know: when you love someone, it's not about ''you''. It's your whole fucking world wrapped up in what's best for them, and what makes them happiest. It's reaching for the moon, just because it's ''there'', and it makes their eyes ''glow''. When you love someone, really love them: you ''don't'' make them settle. You just ''don't.''"

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-->'''Xander''': "Cordelia Chase. Junior Miss California, seventh grade. May Queen, Queen of Sunnydale High 1996, prettiest girl in Sunnydale eighteen years running. Miss 'I have to have the most expensive thing not because it's the best, but because it's expensive'. Used to nothing but the very best of everything for all her life, until maybe lately. And ''then'' she gets slapped in the face with the fact that the guy she maybe falls in love with ''isn't'', ''can't be'', ''doesn't'' get a rush of perfect fucking happiness ''just'' from being with ''her''. Long term? Man, that knowledge would eat at and fucking ''destroy'' her."
-->'''Angel''':
"\\
'''Angel''':
"She's stronger than that."
-->'''Xander''':
"\\
'''Xander''':
"She shouldn't ''have'' to be... I dunno much. But I do know: when you love someone, it's not about ''you''. It's your whole fucking world wrapped up in what's best for them, and what makes them happiest. It's reaching for the moon, just because it's ''there'', and it makes their eyes ''glow''. When you love someone, really love them: you ''don't'' make them settle. You just ''don't.''"



-->'''Bluto:''' What the fuck happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst. "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer...
-->'''Otter:''' Dead! Bluto's right.
-->[Other characters look at each other in amazement]
-->'''Otter:''' Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards.

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-->'''Bluto:''' What the fuck happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst. "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer...
-->'''Otter:'''
Niedermeyer...\\
'''Otter:'''
Dead! Bluto's right.
-->[Other
right.\\
''[Other
characters look at each other in amazement]
-->'''Otter:'''
amazement]''\\
'''Otter:'''
Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards.


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* ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles''' hero Harry Dresden is more obfuscating than genuinely stupid, but many of the enemies he faces have a lot more knowledge and power than him and regard him as an idiot at times. This is seen in ''Ghost Story'' when TheDragon to the main baddy is a powerful spirit of knowledge. When the spirit effortlessly stopped Harry's assault on his base in the spirit world, the spirit halts his final attack when Harry notes killing Harry isn't in the spirit's self-interest. This causes the spirit to hesitate. The spirit, seeing Harry as a youth who is tied down by stupid things like morality, argues that he doesn't have "self-interest." Harry quickly counters that the spirit has superior power and ability in this confrontation. There is no logical reason to halt the attack for even a moment to end the life of a potentially dangerous enemy unless the spirit felt Harry being alive would be better off for the spirit, ergo the spirit has some self-interest. The spirit considers the argument and notes he will think on it later when his "attention is not otherwise occupied by mildly effective stalling tactics." He then proceeds to continue his final attack on Harry.
17th Jun '17 10:13:34 AM TheSinful
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* Ranma in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11577216/1/A-Horse-For-the-Force A Horse for the Force]]'' makes an almost offhand observation how freely Jedi take lives with their lightsabers even though they're supposed to be guardians rather than soldiers. As a result, on a later mission Kit Fisto makes a point to only sever limbs of the pirates he's fighting. It still puts them out of the fight, but he doesn't kill them.
23rd May '17 10:41:29 AM TheSinful
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* Luffy is still an IdiotHero like canon in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11961369/7/Blood-Man-Luffy Blood Man Luffy]]'' but correctly uses the proverb "Blood is thicker than water" when he learns of Nami's adoptive family. Nami gets upset and says they're as close as any family, only for Luffy to remark that's what he said: "Blood of the covenant is thicker than water of the womb."
17th May '17 10:35:30 AM KingLyger
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* ''Theatre/TwistedTheUntoldStoryOfARoyalVizier'' makes this part of Ja'far's CharacterDevelopment. While he realizes that the Princess is hopelessly naive and sheltered, he decides that young people have to believe they can make the world perfect, or else they'll never even try and by the overly optimistic attempts of idealistic young people, the world is made a tiny bit for better each generation that goes by. [[spoiler:On top of that, the Princess creates a plan to solve social inequality by making everyone a princess, and somehow, it actually works.]]
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29th Apr '17 5:56:07 AM Psyclone
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-->'''General Katana''': You leave for the Planet earth immediately. Find [=Macleod=] and kill him.

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-->'''General Katana''': You leave for the Planet earth planet Earth immediately. Find [=Macleod=] and kill him.
13th Apr '17 4:45:42 AM Luigifan
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Compare ActuallyPrettyFunny, TooDumbToFool, TheCuckoolanderWasRight, WisdomFromTheGutter, MistakenForProfound, IHaveNothingToSayToThat, and NobodysThatDumb. When the character is the subject of this reaction because they're mean, unlikable, or evil, it's JerkassHasAPoint. When the author intends to make a character's argument come across as wrong, but the readers agree, it's StrawmanHasAPoint. Related to WisdomFromTheGutter.

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Compare ActuallyPrettyFunny, TooDumbToFool, TheCuckoolanderWasRight, WisdomFromTheGutter, MistakenForProfound, IHaveNothingToSayToThat, and NobodysThatDumb. When the character is the subject of this reaction because they're mean, unlikable, or evil, it's JerkassHasAPoint.JerkassHasAPoint (or VillainHasAPoint when it's coming from an outright antagonist). If the reaction stems from the character making the point having a knack for doing the opposite thing, it's HypocriteHasAPoint. When the author intends to make a character's argument come across as wrong, but the readers agree, it's StrawmanHasAPoint. Related to WisdomFromTheGutter.
2nd Apr '17 9:45:41 AM XenMon2
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** In general, the PHB is "only" incompetent at management and technology. When dealing with other departments and upper management he's actually the straight man undermined by Dilbert's social ineptitude and bluntness.
25th Mar '17 7:26:40 PM tiiger
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* In the Coen Brothers' remake of ''Film/TheLadykillers'', Dorr thinks aloud as he tries to come up with an elaborate scheme to deal with Gudge, a potential obstacle to their heist. Dumb jock Lump tries to interject with an idea, only to be silenced several times by Hanks. When he is finally allowed to speak, he asks "couldn't we just bribe the guy?" It works.

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* In the Coen Brothers' remake of ''Film/TheLadykillers'', Dorr thinks aloud as he tries to come up with an elaborate scheme to deal with Gudge, a potential obstacle to their heist. Dumb jock Lump tries to interject with an idea, only to be silenced several times by Hanks.Dorr. When he is finally allowed to speak, he asks "couldn't we just bribe the guy?" It works.
25th Mar '17 7:25:25 PM tiiger
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* In the Coen Brothers' remake of ''Film/TheLadykillers'', Creator/TomHanks' character thinks aloud as he tries to come up with an elaborate scheme to deal with Stephen Root's character, a potential obstacle to their heist. The dumb jock character tries to interject with an idea, only to be silenced several times by Hanks. When he is finally allowed to speak, he asks "couldn't we just bribe the guy?" It works.

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* In the Coen Brothers' remake of ''Film/TheLadykillers'', Creator/TomHanks' character Dorr thinks aloud as he tries to come up with an elaborate scheme to deal with Stephen Root's character, Gudge, a potential obstacle to their heist. The dumb Dumb jock character Lump tries to interject with an idea, only to be silenced several times by Hanks. When he is finally allowed to speak, he asks "couldn't we just bribe the guy?" It works.
25th Mar '17 11:50:02 AM Premonition45
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** In the episode "Bart's Comet":

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** In the episode "Bart's Comet":



** In the episode in which the Simpsons go to Africa when it's revealed that Doctor Bushwell is using the monkeys to run a diamond mine this exchange occurs:
--->'''Bart''': I think we should look at her research before we condemn her completely.
--->''(everyone stares at Bart, shocked)''
--->'''Bart''': I haven't said anything for a while.
** In part 2 of "Who Shot Mr. Burns", after Smithers was cleared of shooting Burns (because he shot ''Jasper'' instead), the normally completely incompetent police chief has this to say:
--->'''Chief Wiggum''': Wait a minute! If a second old geezer got shot, how come nobody reported it?[[note]]Jasper was shot in his prosthetic leg, so he was unharmed.[[/note]]

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** In the episode in which "Simpson Safari", when the Simpsons go to Africa when it's revealed that Doctor Bushwell is using the monkeys to run a diamond mine this exchange occurs:
--->'''Bart''': -->'''Bart''': I think we should look at her research before we condemn her completely.
--->''(everyone -->''(everyone stares at Bart, shocked)''
--->'''Bart''': -->'''Bart''': I haven't said anything for a while.
** In part 2 of "Who Shot Mr. Burns", Burns? Part 2", after Smithers was cleared of shooting Burns (because he shot ''Jasper'' instead), the normally completely incompetent police chief has this to say:
--->'''Chief -->'''Chief Wiggum''': Wait a minute! If a second old geezer got shot, how come nobody reported it?[[note]]Jasper was shot in his prosthetic leg, so he was unharmed.[[/note]]



** In yet another episode, Mayor Quimby is being electrocuted on live TV by an electric chair that everyone except for Bart and Ralph Wiggum believe is turned off. Bart says he needs to think of a way to save Mayor Quimby, and Ralph Wiggum has the brilliant insight that... Lisa's good at thinking. (Cue Lisa saving the day, and everyone cheering Ralph for his good sense.)

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** In yet another episode, "This Little Wiggy", Mayor Quimby is being electrocuted on live TV by an electric chair that everyone except for Bart and Ralph Wiggum believe is turned off. Bart says he needs to think of a way to save Mayor Quimby, and Ralph Wiggum has the brilliant insight that... Lisa's good at thinking. (Cue Lisa saving the day, and everyone cheering Ralph for his good sense.)
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