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11th Sep '17 10:47:14 AM PistolsAtDawn
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* Played with in ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty''. In the first two seasons, Rick is a genius and Morty is an idiot. Rick smacks Morty around and doesn't care about anyone else, while Morty is nice but weak and useless. In the episode ''Rickcounters of the Rick-kind'' we meet AlternateUniverse Dumb Rick, who is a nice person, and [[spoiler: Evil Morty, who seems to be much smarter than the other Morty's.]] In season 3, Morty is shown becoming smarter as a result of his adventures with Rick, but also to be turning more cynical and less good.

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* Played with in ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty''. In the first two seasons, Rick is a genius and Morty is an idiot. Rick smacks Morty around and doesn't care about anyone else, while Morty is nice but weak and useless. In the episode ''Rickcounters of the Rick-kind'' we meet AlternateUniverse Dumb Doofus Rick, who is a nice person, and [[spoiler: Evil Morty, who seems to be much smarter than the other Morty's.]] In season 3, Morty is shown becoming smarter as a result of his adventures with Rick, but also to be turning more cynical and less good.
11th Sep '17 8:55:06 AM PistolsAtDawn
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* ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'': Beast Boy is not a very smart person and can be stupid to an almost painful degree. However, when needed the most he'll gladly step up to help his teammates in whatever scenario they face.


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* Played with in ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty''. In the first two seasons, Rick is a genius and Morty is an idiot. Rick smacks Morty around and doesn't care about anyone else, while Morty is nice but weak and useless. In the episode ''Rickcounters of the Rick-kind'' we meet AlternateUniverse Dumb Rick, who is a nice person, and [[spoiler: Evil Morty, who seems to be much smarter than the other Morty's.]] In season 3, Morty is shown becoming smarter as a result of his adventures with Rick, but also to be turning more cynical and less good.
4th Sep '17 6:57:25 PM powerofone65
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** In particular, his [[TheChessmaster seventh]] and [[BewareTheNiceOnes tenth]] incarnations both have a nasty reputation for manipulating companions and civilians alike; the only differences between the two of them is that the seventh (who's a lot better at it) will usually have a better reason for his manipulations.

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** In particular, his [[TheChessmaster seventh]] and [[BewareTheNiceOnes tenth]] eleventh]] incarnations both have a nasty reputation for manipulating companions and civilians alike; the only differences between the two of them is that the seventh (who's a lot better at it) will usually have a better reason for his manipulations.became exhausted by it.
12th Aug '17 7:30:37 PM Narutaki2012
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''Literature/MartinFierro'': The protagonist invokes this trope when he says that [[{{ApatheticCitizens}} he didnít want to vote in the last election]] because ''He is a gaucho redondo'' (dumb) and those things do not interest him. If the judge was angry at this, he would have done better [[{{PersecutedIntellectuals}} persecuting the real culprits]], or in other words, Fierro thinks that people interested in the election are culprits of... something.

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* ''Literature/MartinFierro'': The protagonist invokes this trope when he says that [[{{ApatheticCitizens}} he didnít want to vote in the last election]] because ''He is a gaucho redondo'' (dumb) and those things do not interest him. If the judge was angry at this, he would have done better [[{{PersecutedIntellectuals}} persecuting the real culprits]], or in other words, Fierro thinks that people interested in the election are culprits of... something.
12th Aug '17 7:24:08 PM Narutaki2012
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''Literature/MartinFierro'': The protagonist invokes this trope when he says that [[{{ApatheticCitizens he didnít want to vote in the last election]] because ''He is a gaucho redondo'' (dumb) and those things do not interest him. If the judge was angry at this, he would have done better [[{{PersecutedIntellectuals}} persecuting the real culprits]], or in other words, people interested in the election.

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''Literature/MartinFierro'': The protagonist invokes this trope when he says that [[{{ApatheticCitizens [[{{ApatheticCitizens}} he didnít want to vote in the last election]] because ''He is a gaucho redondo'' (dumb) and those things do not interest him. If the judge was angry at this, he would have done better [[{{PersecutedIntellectuals}} persecuting the real culprits]], or in other words, Fierro thinks that people interested in the election.election are culprits of... something.
12th Aug '17 7:22:27 PM Narutaki2012
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''Literature/MartinFierro'': The protagonist invokes this trope when he says that [[{{ApatheticCitizens he didnít want to vote in the last election]] because ''He is a gaucho redondo'' (dumb) and those things do not interest him. If the judge was angry at this, he would have done better [[{{PersecutedIntellectuals}} persecuting the real culprits]], or in other words, people interested in the election.
5th Aug '17 5:02:39 PM f
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** Caramon does, however, prove himself to be significantly more intelligent than anyone would have given him credit for when he has to think for himself. The authors note in their annotations that he never was stupid, he just thought things through before acting.
30th Jun '17 4:37:46 PM merotoker
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** Averted with Son Gohan, the son of Goku. He is just as much a good guy as his father and uses the Nimbus from time to time. He is also a scholar who gets top marks and a solid job to suppot his family.

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** Averted with Son Gohan, the son of Goku. He is just as much a good guy as his father and uses the Nimbus from time to time. He is also a scholar who gets top marks and a solid job to suppot support his family.



** Though both Tony Tony Chopper (a skilled doctor) and Franky (a skilled shipwright) are both quite intelligent and good-hearted indivduals, if not wildly eccentric and there are your fair share of violent and dumb btrutes. Chopper also happens to be very naïve, and will often react right alongside Luffy, and also has an odd tendency to "hide" on the wrong side of a door. Franky seems to be more on Sanji or Zoro's level of "dumb", while still being a great engineer.

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** Though both Tony Tony Chopper (a skilled doctor) and Franky (a skilled shipwright) are both quite intelligent and good-hearted indivduals, individuals, if not wildly eccentric and there are your fair share of violent and dumb btrutes. Chopper also happens to be very naïve, and will often react right alongside Luffy, and also has an odd tendency to "hide" on the wrong side of a door. Franky seems to be more on Sanji or Zoro's level of "dumb", while still being a great engineer.



** Uchiha Obito. His personality is nearly identical to Naruto. Interestingly enough, [[spoiler: on becoming BigBad Tobi, he also becomes smarter.]]

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** Uchiha Obito. His personality is nearly identical to Naruto. Interestingly enough, [[spoiler: on becoming BigBad Tobi, he also becomes smarter.]]smarter]].



* The ''ComicBook/IncredibleHulk'' is usually TheHero or at least an AntiHero. DependingOnTheWriter, he is near mindless or at least has a childlike mentality. His main villain is an EvilGenius named ''The Leader'' who has super intelligence.
** Likewise in ComicBook/UltimateMarvel, Hulk defeats Abomination because the latter "thinks too much."

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* The ''ComicBook/IncredibleHulk'' is usually TheHero or at least an AntiHero. DependingOnTheWriter, he is near mindless or at least has a childlike mentality. His main villain is an EvilGenius named ''The Leader'' who has super intelligence.
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intelligence. Likewise in ComicBook/UltimateMarvel, Hulk defeats Abomination because the latter "thinks too much."



* ''Film/GeorgeOfTheJungle'' is the noble hero who'll do anything to protect the jungle and prevent harm from coming to any innocent people traveling through it. However, he's also so dopey that even the animals he protects can't help but facepalm at his stupidity.
* Zangief from ''Film/StreetFighter'' was portrayed as too dumb to be evil.
** "Quick, change the channel!"

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* ''Film/GeorgeOfTheJungle'' Film/GeorgeOfTheJungle is the noble hero who'll do anything to protect the jungle and prevent harm from coming to any innocent people traveling through it. However, he's also so dopey that even the animals he protects can't help but facepalm at his stupidity.
* Zangief from ''Film/StreetFighter'' was portrayed as too dumb to be evil.
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evil. "Quick, change the channel!"



* Deconstructed in Billy-Bob Thorton's written, directed, and starred in film ''Film/SlingBlade'', where he plays the mentally disabled man Karl Childers. Karl is kind, soft spoken, and blind to intolerance, and is also a talented mechanic because he always finds the simplest solution to problems. However, he also has no qualms about [[AxeCrazy brutally murdering]] people he deems to be bad.

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* Deconstructed in Billy-Bob Thorton's written, directed, and starred in film ''Film/SlingBlade'', where he plays the mentally disabled man Karl Childers. Karl is kind, soft spoken, and blind to intolerance, and is also a talented mechanic because he always finds the simplest solution to problems. However, he also has no qualms about [[AxeCrazy [[AxCrazy brutally murdering]] people he deems to be bad.



* In the ''Series/{{Farscape}}'' episode "My Three Crichtons", the hyper-evolved and super-intelligent version of Crichton is the least compassionate. The caveman-like Crichton, on the other hand, is the most moral, [[spoiler: even doing a HeroicSacrifice to save the regular Crichton's life]]

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* In the ''Series/{{Farscape}}'' episode "My Three Crichtons", the hyper-evolved and super-intelligent version of Crichton is the least compassionate. The caveman-like Crichton, on the other hand, is the most moral, [[spoiler: even doing a HeroicSacrifice to save the regular Crichton's life]]life]].



* Music/{{TVOnTheRadio}}'s "Happy Idiot" where the narrator decides to get over a breakup he will simply stop caring about the worries of the world. The track even uses the phrase 'ignorance is bliss'.

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* Music/{{TVOnTheRadio}}'s Music/TVOnTheRadio's "Happy Idiot" where the narrator decides to get over a breakup he will simply stop caring about the worries of the world. The track even uses the phrase 'ignorance is bliss'.



* Averted many times in ComicStrip/{{Dilbert}}. The negative consequences of stupidity is probably the most recurring theme of all, and the majority of the strips deal with the protagonist's struggle against his obtuse colleagues and bosses as well as the Kafkaesque workplace they inhabit. Paradoxically, you could also say that the trope is played straight at the same time, as there are [[http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2000-01-16/ several occasions]] where intelligence and skill is portrayed as a serious (and sometimes fatal) drawback.

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* Averted many times in ComicStrip/{{Dilbert}}.''ComicStrip/{{Dilbert}}''. The negative consequences of stupidity is probably the most recurring theme of all, and the majority of the strips deal with the protagonist's struggle against his obtuse colleagues and bosses as well as the Kafkaesque workplace they inhabit. Paradoxically, you could also say that the trope is played straight at the same time, as there are [[http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2000-01-16/ several occasions]] where intelligence and skill is portrayed as a serious (and sometimes fatal) drawback.



* Subverted in ''VideoGame/{{Portal 2}}'' with [[spoiler:Wheatley.]] Though he does a FaceHeelTurn [[spoiler:upon gaining control of the Enrichment Center, it takes literally seconds before he goes power mad. We learn from [=GLaDOS=] that he was built to be as unintelligent as possible to hold her murderous tendencies back. He attempts to trick and kill Chell and does not care that his actions (or lack thereof) will cause the entire Enrichment Center to blow up.]] Ultimately he's plagued by poor common sense regardless of his morality.

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* Subverted in ''VideoGame/{{Portal 2}}'' with [[spoiler:Wheatley.]] [[spoiler:Wheatley]]. Though he does a FaceHeelTurn [[spoiler:upon gaining control of the Enrichment Center, it takes literally seconds before he goes power mad. We learn from [=GLaDOS=] that he was built to be as unintelligent as possible to hold her murderous tendencies back. He attempts to trick and kill Chell and does not care that his actions (or lack thereof) will cause the entire Enrichment Center to blow up.]] up]]. Ultimately he's plagued by poor common sense regardless of his morality.



** Jack himself.
* ''Franchise/MassEffect'': Zigzagged. Due to being an AudienceSurrogate, Commander Shepard technically falls under this due to having very little knowledge of the massively known universe. S/he is really more GenreBlind in the beginning of the game rather than dumb, but the council and other [=NPCs=] in the game [[UnderestimatingBadassery classify Shepard as being dumb anyway.]] Justified, as Shepard was simply a random soldier serving under a highly intelligent captain before being promoted to a [[SpacePolice Spectre]] without much warning. Fortunately, the commander proves to be a very fast learner after asking many questions about others and wisely takes in different aliens to help him/her, despite his superiors calling him/her foolish for even trusting these allies. It eventually [[CharacterDevelopment all pays off for Shepard in the end.]]

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* ''Franchise/MassEffect'': Zigzagged. Due to being an AudienceSurrogate, Commander Shepard technically falls under this due to having very little knowledge of the massively known universe. S/he is really more GenreBlind {{Genre Blind|ness}} in the beginning of the game rather than dumb, but the council and other [=NPCs=] in the game [[UnderestimatingBadassery classify Shepard as being dumb anyway.]] Justified, as Shepard was simply a random soldier serving under a highly intelligent captain before being promoted to a [[SpacePolice Spectre]] without much warning. Fortunately, the commander proves to be a very fast learner after asking many questions about others and wisely takes in different aliens to help him/her, despite his superiors calling him/her foolish for even trusting these allies. It eventually [[CharacterDevelopment all pays off for Shepard in the end.]]



** Similarly, Donut is usually very happy. One could even [[HaveAGayOldTime call him]] [[IncrediblyLamePun gay]]. He's only marginally smarter than Caboose. Their happy yet simple natures allow them to quickly become friends when Donut is captured.

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** Similarly, Donut is usually very happy. One could even [[HaveAGayOldTime call him]] [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} gay]]. He's only marginally smarter than Caboose. Their happy yet simple natures allow them to quickly become friends when Donut is captured.



** However, outside of the main cast, Whitemage stands out as an example of a character who is both good and quite canny. Meanwhile, several very stupid characters are shown to be malicious, some of whom [King Steve] are capable of real harm while others are largely harmless due to their incompetance [but not for lack of intent or the internal frustration and bitterness which most happy-go-lucky heroes avoid]. So on the whole it seems like the trope is averted but played with to a degree as the stupider villains are often treated as harmless while Fighter remains a good guy but may at times cause as much harm as his evil cohorts without realizing the consecquences of his own actions.

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** However, outside of the main cast, Whitemage stands out as an example of a character who is both good and quite canny. Meanwhile, several very stupid characters are shown to be malicious, some of whom [King Steve] are capable of real harm while others are largely harmless due to their incompetance incompetence [but not for lack of intent or the internal frustration and bitterness which most happy-go-lucky heroes avoid]. So on the whole it seems like the trope is averted but played with to a degree as the stupider villains are often treated as harmless while Fighter remains a good guy but may at times cause as much harm as his evil cohorts without realizing the consecquences of his own actions.



* ''Webcomic/BobAndGeorge'' [[http://www.bobandgeorge.com/archives/020722c Why George forgot his powers]]

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* ''Webcomic/BobAndGeorge'' ''Webcomic/BobAndGeorge'': [[http://www.bobandgeorge.com/archives/020722c Why George forgot his powers]]



* ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'': In "Mars University", when Gunter the chimpanzee wears the bowler hat that Professor Farnsworth invented that makes him super-intelligent, he's a snobbish know-it-all, especially towards Fry. Later, when Gunter's hat gets broken and thus only gives him average intelligence, he finds that he's much happier that way and decides to attend business school, much to [[BigNo Farnsworth's ire]]. Mars University also parodies this trope with its motto,"knowledge brings fear."

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'': In "Mars University", when Gunter the chimpanzee wears the bowler hat that Professor Farnsworth invented that makes him super-intelligent, he's a snobbish know-it-all, especially towards Fry. Later, when Gunter's hat gets broken and thus only gives him average intelligence, he finds that he's much happier that way and decides to attend business school, much to [[BigNo Farnsworth's ire]]. Mars University also parodies this trope with its motto,"knowledge motto, "knowledge brings fear."



* ''WesternAnimation/{{Animalia}}'': Played with, when Alligator actress Alegra becomes highly intelligent after accidentally absorbing [[TheMentor Livingstone's]] intelligence, causing her to suddenly become a dangerously EvilGenius, to the point Livingstone's rival Tyranicus ended up helping the protagonist to get the intelligence back because he'd rather have his rival in perfect state than an intelligent Alegra.Partially subverted in that Alegra [[AlphaBitch wasn't really a nice person to begin with]] (though her normal self [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold does displays a softer side occasionnally]]), whereas Livingstone, when possessing his natural hight intelligence, is portrayed as an extremely wise and kind person. As such, the message would rather be that intelligence is a gift that can cause as much harm as good, depending who's possessing it.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Animalia}}'': Played with, when Alligator actress Alegra becomes highly intelligent after accidentally absorbing [[TheMentor Livingstone's]] intelligence, causing her to suddenly become a dangerously EvilGenius, to the point Livingstone's rival Tyranicus ended up helping the protagonist to get the intelligence back because he'd rather have his rival in perfect state than an intelligent Alegra.Partially subverted in that Alegra [[AlphaBitch wasn't really a nice person to begin with]] (though her normal self [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold does displays a softer side occasionnally]]), occasionally]]), whereas Livingstone, when possessing his natural hight intelligence, is portrayed as an extremely wise and kind person. As such, the message would rather be that intelligence is a gift that can cause as much harm as good, depending who's possessing it.



* Adam Carolla had [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqnkQFBwo7U this to say regarding this topic]].
27th Jun '17 8:45:27 PM Willbyr
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