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11th Aug '16 7:21:26 PM PaulA
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*** An attempt to burn an offering to the same infant in ''Literature/{{Memory++'' helps spark Miles's recovery from his life going off-kilter;
*** We hear in ''Literature/{{Komarr++'' that prior to that book, Miles went with Duv Galeni to burn an offering at the site of the Solstice Massacre--where Duv's aunt died, and for which Miles's father was (mostly unjustly) blamed.

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*** An attempt to burn an offering to the same infant in ''Literature/{{Memory++'' ''Literature/{{Memory}}'' helps spark Miles's recovery from his life going off-kilter;
*** We hear in ''Literature/{{Komarr++'' ''Literature/{{Komarr}}'' that prior to that book, Miles went with Duv Galeni to burn an offering at the site of the Solstice Massacre--where Duv's aunt died, and for which Miles's father was (mostly unjustly) blamed.
11th Aug '16 7:20:48 PM PaulA
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* In Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's ''[[Literature/VorkosiganSaga The Warrior's Apprentice]]'', Miles Vorkosigan insists on burying [[spoiler:Sergeant Bothari]]'s body in a grave he dug himself. He explains to his mother that [[spoiler:Bothari]] told him that "blood washes away sin," and he feels responsible for the death, so he literally works until his hands bleed.
** Cordelia's relative silence is interesting, given that [[spoiler:''she'' was the one who told Bothari that, in a very different context--to help him recover after he'd saved her life by killing his sadistic commander.]]
*** This exchange also opened with Cordelia telling Miles that he could dig the hole in a few seconds with a plasma arc, something that Aral had told her when they dug the grave for her dead crewman, on the day they met.
** Barrayaran culture also calls for burning offerings to the dead. They get mentioned a few times:
*** When Cordelia, in ''Barrayar'', persuades a scientist, who considers himself above such superstition but feels haunted by the death of a colleague murdered in his laboratory, to gain mental peace by making an offering to the colleague anyway, and moves the surviving scientist to a new lab;
*** In "Mountains of Mourning", after Miles had an infant disinterred to confirm that she'd been murdered, he realizes he doesn't have anything with him to burn. He thinks: ''Peace to you, small lady, after our rude invasions. I will give you a better sacrifice, I swear by my word as Vorkosigan. And the smoke of that burning will rise and be seen from one end of these mountains to the other.'' [[spoiler:This tradition plays a part in the eventual punishment of the culprit.]]

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* In Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's ''[[Literature/VorkosiganSaga The Warrior's Apprentice]]'', Miles Vorkosigan insists on burying [[spoiler:Sergeant Bothari]]'s body in a grave he dug himself. He explains to his mother that [[spoiler:Bothari]] told him that "blood washes away sin," and he feels responsible for the death, so he literally works until his hands bleed.
** Cordelia's relative silence is interesting, given that [[spoiler:''she'' was the one who told Bothari that, in a very different context--to help him recover after he'd saved her life by killing his sadistic commander.]]
*** This exchange also opened with Cordelia telling Miles that he could dig the hole in a few seconds with a plasma arc, something that Aral had told her when they dug the grave for her dead crewman, on the day they met.
''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'':
** Barrayaran culture also calls for burning offerings to the dead. They get mentioned a few times:
*** When Cordelia, in ''Barrayar'', ''Literature/{{Barrayar}}'', persuades a scientist, who considers himself above such superstition but feels haunted by the death of a colleague murdered in his laboratory, to gain mental peace by making an offering to the colleague anyway, and moves the surviving scientist to a new lab;
*** In "Mountains of Mourning", "Literature/TheMountainsOfMourning", after Miles had an infant disinterred to confirm that she'd been murdered, he realizes he doesn't have anything with him to burn. He thinks: ''Peace to you, small lady, after our rude invasions. I will give you a better sacrifice, I swear by my word as Vorkosigan. And the smoke of that burning will rise and be seen from one end of these mountains to the other.'' [[spoiler:This tradition plays a part in the eventual punishment of the culprit.]]



*** An attempt to burn an offering to the same infant in ''Memory'' helps spark Miles's recovery from his life going off-kilter;
*** We hear in ''Komarr'' that prior to that book, Miles went with Duv Galeni to burn an offering at the site of the Solstice Massacre--where Duv's aunt died, and for which Miles's father was (mostly unjustly) blamed.
** ''Cetaganda'' takes place during the funeral rites of the Empress Dowager of Cetaganda. Miles and Ivan were sent to pay proper respects.
** In ''Civil Campaign'', after some advice from Cordelia, Ekaterin gets Miles to agree to a small wedding: since she's a widow, they would have to wait for a large one.
** In ''Captain Vorpatril's Alliance'', Lady Alys burns an offering for her late husband every year on the anniversary of his death, on the spot where he died. After Ivan gets married, she passes on the chore to him, if he wants to continue the tradition. (He decides not to.)
** Barrayarans also use funeral pyres for the most highly regarded of their dead: a young Gregor Vorbarra lights both his grandfather Ezar and his [[spoiler: mother Kareen]]'s funeral pyre.
* In Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's Chalion books, funeral rites involve using sacred animals - or a helpful saint - to determine which of the five gods has taken up the dead person's soul. This is taken up to another level entirely towards the end of The Hallowed Hunt.

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*** An attempt to burn an offering to the same infant in ''Memory'' ''Literature/{{Memory++'' helps spark Miles's recovery from his life going off-kilter;
*** We hear in ''Komarr'' ''Literature/{{Komarr++'' that prior to that book, Miles went with Duv Galeni to burn an offering at the site of the Solstice Massacre--where Duv's aunt died, and for which Miles's father was (mostly unjustly) blamed.
** ''Cetaganda'' In ''Literature/TheWarriorsApprentice'', Miles Vorkosigan insists on burying [[spoiler:Sergeant Bothari]]'s body in a grave he dug himself. He explains to his mother that [[spoiler:Bothari]] told him that "blood washes away sin," and he feels responsible for the death, so he literally works until his hands bleed. Cordelia's relative silence is interesting, given that [[spoiler:''she'' was the one who told Bothari that, in a very different context--to help him recover after he'd saved her life by killing his sadistic commander.]] This exchange also opened with Cordelia telling Miles that he could dig the hole in a few seconds with a plasma arc, something that Aral had told her when they dug the grave for her dead crewman, on the day they met.
** ''Literature/{{Cetaganda}}''
takes place during the funeral rites of the Empress Dowager of Cetaganda. Miles and Ivan were sent to pay proper respects.
** In ''Civil Campaign'', ''Literature/ACivilCampaign'', after some advice from Cordelia, Ekaterin gets Miles to agree to a small wedding: since she's a widow, they would have to wait for a large one.
** In ''Captain Vorpatril's Alliance'', ''Literature/CaptainVorpatrilsAlliance'', Lady Alys burns an offering for her late husband every year on the anniversary of his death, on the spot where he died. After Ivan gets married, she passes on the chore to him, if he wants to continue the tradition. (He decides not to.)
** Barrayarans also use funeral pyres for the most highly regarded of their dead: a young Gregor Vorbarra lights both his grandfather Ezar and his [[spoiler: mother [[spoiler:mother Kareen]]'s funeral pyre.
* In Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's Chalion Literature/{{Chalion}} books, funeral rites involve using sacred animals - -- or a helpful saint - -- to determine which of the five gods has taken up the dead person's soul. This is taken up to another level entirely towards the end of The Hallowed Hunt.''Literature/TheHallowedHunt''.
30th Jul '16 12:25:12 PM TheNicestGuy
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* The episode "In Excelsis Deo" of ''Series/TheWestWing'' closes on the military funeral of a Marine veteran of the Korean War. Despite an honor guard and a three-volley salute, it's a LonelyFuneral and terribly poignant. The man was homeless and died of exposure on a cold night. His only living relative was his brother, also homeless. The ceremony only happened because a White House staffer, who had no connection to the deceased other than he used to own the coat he died in, spent the episode pulling strings.
-->'''President's Secretary, Mrs. Landingham:''' Did you use [the President's] name to arrange a military funeral for a homeless veteran?\\
'''Toby:''' Yes.\\
'''Landingham:''' You shouldn't have done that, Toby.\\
'''Toby:''' I know.\\
'''Landingham:''' You absolutely should not have done that.\\
'''Toby:''' I know.\\
''[later]''\\
'''Landingham:''' [[OutlivingOnesOffspring I'd like to come along.]]
9th Jul '16 8:54:23 AM LadyJaneGrey
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One mark that distinguishes humans from nonhumans is that humans have funeral rites; they regard something as due to the dead and have for a long time. Indeed, since burials leave archeological evidence, we know that they occurred as long as 300,000 years ago, as a practice among the Neanderthals.

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One mark that distinguishes humans from nonhumans is that humans have funeral rites; they regard something as due to the dead and have for a long time. Indeed, since burials leave archeological evidence, we know that they occurred [[OlderThanDirt as long as 300,000 years years]] ago, as a practice among the Neanderthals.
28th Jun '16 5:52:04 AM thatmadork
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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' (the fantasy version), the necromancer Heinrich Kemmler seems to really get a kick out of desecrating tombs and playing around with corpses. There was this one time when he re-animated a bunch of zombies and then [[BodyHorror merged them together into a spider-like creature]] just to see if he could do it.
27th Jun '16 1:51:29 PM DarkHunter
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* Video packages for the recently deceased are also fairly common, the World Wrestling League doing so for both important figures in their history like Perro Aguayo Jr and even those who never worked for them like Hayabusa and Wrestling/{{Chyna}}.[[/folder]]]

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* Video packages for the recently deceased are also fairly common, the World Wrestling League doing so for both important figures in their history like Perro Aguayo Jr and even those who never worked for them like Hayabusa and Wrestling/{{Chyna}}.[[/folder]]]
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26th Jun '16 9:05:27 PM isoycrazy
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* After the massacre of forty-nine people at the Orlando nightclub and the slaying of the mass murderer, the Orange County coroner's office did something unprecedented. When it came time to autopsy the killer, they didn't do it in the building as where his victims lay in wait. The doctors refused to allow the man to in the same building as his victims out of respect for those who were killed.
26th Jun '16 7:22:22 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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[[folder:Professional Wrestling]]
* The three most common ways of showing dues to the dead are the moment of silence(such as the one All Pro Wrestling had in 2011 for Gulf Coast Wrestling.com's Bob Liddil) and the ten bell salute (such as the one that opened ''Welcome To The Wrestling/{{Combat Zone|Wrestling}}'' in 2016).
* The most famous in pro wrestling was when officials from Japan, North and South Korea gathered together with Wrestling/AntonioInoki to pay their respects at the grave of Wrestling/{{Rikidozan}}. This transitioned into a joint Wrestling/{{New Japan|ProWrestling}} Wrestling/{{WCW}} show that drew the largest crowd on record.
* Video packages for the recently deceased are also fairly common, the World Wrestling League doing so for both important figures in their history like Perro Aguayo Jr and even those who never worked for them like Hayabusa and Wrestling/{{Chyna}}.[[/folder]]]
24th Jun '16 8:08:38 PM GlitteringFlowers
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* In ''Manga/FullMetalAlchemist'', a flashback shows that one of the most important talks between Roy and Riza took place at the end of the Ishvalan war... when she was done giving an Ishbalan murdered child, whose body she found by a nearby road, something similar to a dignified burial.



* Creator/{{Euripides}}'s ''Theatre/{{Alcestis}}'': When Admetus's wife Alcestis dies, and Hercules appears at his home, Admetus tries to hide that he is in mourning for his wife because they considered [[SacredHospitality hospitality sacred]]. When Hercules learns of the death, he is really, really, really shocked to find that his host had hidden this from him and so his behavior has been really bad; he goes [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome to wrestle with]] [[GrimReaper Death]] [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming to reclaim her]].

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* Creator/{{Euripides}}'s ''Theatre/{{Alcestis}}'': When Admetus's wife Alcestis dies, and his friend Hercules appears at his home, Admetus tries to hide that he is in mourning for his wife because they considered [[SacredHospitality hospitality sacred]]. When Hercules learns of the death, he is really, really, really shocked to find that his host had hidden this from him and so his behavior has been really bad; he goes [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome to wrestle with]] [[GrimReaper Death]] [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming to reclaim her]].
22nd Jun '16 9:53:22 PM PaulA
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* In Creator/KarlMay's travel Story "Durchs Wilde Kurdistan" (Through the wild Kurdistan), a religious leader of zoroastric sect is killed and everybody helps in building a cairn, sort of, to bury him. This includes the very pious muslim Hadschi Halef Omar, the servant, protector and friend of Karl May.

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* In Creator/KarlMay's travel Story "Durchs Wilde Kurdistan" (Through (''Through Wild Kurdistan'', the wild Kurdistan), second volume of the Literature/OrientCycle), a religious leader of zoroastric sect is killed and everybody helps in building a cairn, sort of, to bury him. This includes the very pious muslim Hadschi Halef Omar, the servant, protector and friend of Karl May.the protagonist.
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