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20th Jul '17 5:43:12 PM shawn_allen
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* In ''Film/InglouriousBasterds'', Private Zoller, German National hero and star of a propaganda film introduces himself to the owner of Parisian cinema, and waits for her reaction. She looks at him like, "Who the hell are you?"
16th Jul '17 9:11:52 AM nombretomado
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* Irregular troops such as militias and paramilitaries get this treatment very often all because they aren't part of some official army with a leader who gets to call themselves president. Asymmetrical warfare, which really heavily counts on these kinds of guys, has been pretty much the norm rather than the exception since the end of WW2. Worse for militias, because these are people who really are only trying to protect what is nearest and dearest to them, only to at best be given little grudging respect, and at worst ostracized as triggery-happy nuts. Needless to say, guys like the American militiamen who've seen battle against criminal gangs and drug cartels, are not at all happy with their unappreciation by the public and even their own families and friends.

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* Irregular troops such as militias and paramilitaries get this treatment very often all because they aren't part of some official army with a leader who gets to call themselves president. Asymmetrical warfare, which really heavily counts on these kinds of guys, has been pretty much the norm rather than the exception since the end of WW2.[=WW2=]. Worse for militias, because these are people who really are only trying to protect what is nearest and dearest to them, only to at best be given little grudging respect, and at worst ostracized as triggery-happy nuts. Needless to say, guys like the American militiamen who've seen battle against criminal gangs and drug cartels, are not at all happy with their unappreciation by the public and even their own families and friends.
10th Jul '17 7:09:57 PM Prfnoff
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** A fairly common trope. A king would try to kill a hero, either out of personal vendetta, fear of a prophecy, or as a favor to another king. But the king would learn of this need after receiving the hero into his household, and the code of hospitality (''xenia'') of the time forbade him from killing a guest. So the king would set the hero on some impossible task (usually "kill this monster"), which the hero would feel obligated to complete because of the responsibilities of a guest under the same code, hoping the hero would die in the attempt. He usually didn't.

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** A fairly common trope. A king would try to kill a hero, either out of personal vendetta, fear of a prophecy, or as a favor to another king. But the king would learn of this need after receiving the hero into his household, and the code of hospitality SacredHospitality (''xenia'') of the time forbade him from killing a guest. So the king would set the hero on some impossible task ImpossibleTask (usually "kill this monster"), which the hero would feel obligated to complete because of the responsibilities of a guest under the same code, hoping the hero would die in the attempt. He usually didn't.
4th Jul '17 9:39:54 AM LentilSandEater
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** In UsefulNotes/WorldWarII the Italians fought almost as hard as in the previous war against an enemy (Britain) much stronger than Austria-Hungary, even [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_Alexandria_%281941%29 sinking a pair of battleship in harbour]] and getting a measure of respect from such people as Rommel (his is the quote "The German soldier has impressed the world, however the Italian Bersagliere has impressed the German soldier") and [[WorthyOpponent even the Red Army]] [[note]] The sky troops of the ''Alpini'' mountain troops had a fearsome reputation, and [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome one 700-strong cavalry regiment supported by light cavalry managed to rout an entrenched Red Army force of as many as 2,500 nominally supported by machine guns and mortars.]] That said, German and Soviet officers regularly reported that in the eastern theatre, a force of veterans was often worth an inexperienced force twice or thrice their size. In 1941-2 most Red Army troops and their officers were woefully inexperienced and had to be given instructions like [[WhatAnIdiot 'make sure the machine guns are deployed where the enemy might attack you' and 'don't forget to use your mortars']] [[/note]]. After switching sides, the [[LaResistance Italian partisans]] were so feared by the German troops in Italy they didn't dare to attack the strongholds they would periodically establish, sending in the remaining Italian troops loyal to Mussolini. Yet, this tends to be forgotten, with many saying that Italy was only TheLoad to the Axis. While they have somewhat of a point (Italy wasn't ready for the war, the government had made a few bad choices in terms of weapon development, the Italian officer corps tended to promote mostly the incompetents and most of the soldiers and the population still saw Germany as the enemy and Britain as an ally), this idea conventiently forgets that, when motivated, the Italians fought like devils, and even saved the Afrika Korps from annihilation at El Alamein (the British broke through the ''German'' lines, and the Afrika Korps only escaped annihilation because a number of Italian divisions, including the elite ''Folgore'' parachute division and the armoured ''Littorio'' and ''Ariete'' divisions, stopped retreating and fought until they exhausted their munitions).
*** In addition, the huge Italian surrenders in North Africa were actually a ploy to get as many people as possible over to the Allies and to sap German strength. Honestly though Italy is probably not the one who should gripe about getting no respect.

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** In UsefulNotes/WorldWarII the Italians fought almost as hard as in the previous war against an enemy (Britain) much stronger than Austria-Hungary, even [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_Alexandria_%281941%29 sinking a pair of battleship in harbour]] and getting a measure of respect from such people as Rommel (his is the quote "The German soldier has impressed the world, however the Italian Bersagliere has impressed the German soldier") and [[WorthyOpponent even the Red Army]] [[note]] The sky troops of the ''Alpini'' mountain troops had a fearsome reputation, and [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome one 700-strong cavalry regiment supported by light cavalry managed to rout an entrenched Red Army force of as many as 2,500 nominally supported by machine guns and mortars.]] That said, German and Soviet officers regularly reported that in the eastern theatre, a force of veterans was often worth an inexperienced force twice or thrice their size. In 1941-2 most Red Army troops and their officers were woefully inexperienced and had to be given instructions like [[WhatAnIdiot 'make sure the machine guns are deployed where the enemy might attack you' and 'don't forget to use your mortars']] [[/note]]. After switching sides, the [[LaResistance Italian partisans]] were so feared by the German troops in Italy they didn't dare to attack the strongholds they would periodically establish, sending in the remaining Italian troops loyal to Mussolini. Yet, this tends to be forgotten, with many saying that Italy was only TheLoad to the Axis. While they have somewhat of a point (Italy wasn't ready for the war, the government had made a few bad choices in terms of weapon development, the Italian officer corps tended to promote mostly the incompetents and most of the soldiers and the population still saw Germany as the enemy and Britain as an ally), this idea conventiently forgets that, when motivated, the Italians fought like devils, and even saved the Afrika Korps from annihilation at El Alamein (the British broke through the ''German'' lines, and the Afrika Korps only escaped annihilation because a number of Italian divisions, including the elite ''Folgore'' parachute division and the armoured ''Littorio'' and ''Ariete'' divisions, stopped retreating and fought until they exhausted their munitions).
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munitions). In addition, the huge Italian surrenders in North Africa were actually a ploy to get as many people as possible over to the Allies and to sap German strength. Honestly though Italy is probably not the one who should gripe about getting no respect.strength.
26th Jun '17 8:12:14 AM LordInsane
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*** The randomized guard dialogue can get schizophrenic about this -- various achievements ''do'' add suitably respectful comments. The problem is that it doesn't ''remove'' the comments that were for achievements that were overriden later on, so a guard can speak insultingly about you being the newbie Companion and ''immediately'' afterward praise you as the Companions' Harbinger.
26th Jun '17 8:02:55 AM LordInsane
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** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'' is horrible as this, as you could be head of the Imperial Legion and soldiers would still treat you like dirt. Same goes for being head of a great house, which fails to gather respect from fellow house members. Although in the case of the Telvanni, it's in-character. You do get respect for completing the main quest (to the point that you can walk around in your underwear and many [=NPCs=] will ''still'' just gush about the mighty player character deigning to speak to them), and the mechanisms of the game means that members of a faction you are the head of tend to treat you better. Not because your rank as such, mind (''that'' is limited to switching one word to your current rank), but because to get to a higher rank you have to increase your reputation in that faction... which, in turn, makes members of that faction react more positively to you. In other words, they do not give you the respect you deserve, but they do, at least, tend to react to you as a friend rather than as scum.

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** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'' is horrible as this, as you could be head of the Imperial Legion and soldiers would still treat you like dirt. Same goes for being head of a great house, which fails to gather respect from fellow house members. Although in the case of the Telvanni, it's in-character. You do get respect for completing the main quest (to the point that you can walk around in your underwear and many [=NPCs=] will ''still'' just gush about the mighty player character deigning to speak to them), and the mechanisms of the game means that members of a faction you are the head of tend to treat you better. Not because your rank as such, mind (''that'' is limited to switching one word to your current rank), rank, and for the Imperial Legion only not complaining about you being out of uniform), but because to get to a higher rank you have to increase your reputation in that faction... which, in turn, makes members of that faction react more positively to you. In other words, they do not give you the respect you deserve, but they do, at least, tend to react to you as a friend rather than as scum.
20th Jun '17 3:40:10 AM AirofMystery
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* Rather strange case in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX''. Auron is supposed to be 'The best guardian there ever was' and 'The Legendary Guardian', but guess how many characters except the party acknowledge his pure Badassery and reputation? ''Two!'' Canon says he is one of the men guardians look upon in respect, but does he get any of said respect or has he influence to any of the events? Little or completely none. Damn, being famous in Spira must suck! Granted, most people presumed him to be dead.

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* Rather strange case in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX''. Auron is supposed to be 'The best guardian there ever was' and 'The Legendary Guardian', but guess how many characters except the party acknowledge his pure Badassery and reputation? ''Two!'' Canon says he is one of the men guardians look upon in respect, but does he get any of said respect or has he influence to any of the events? Little or completely none. Damn, being famous in Spira must suck! Granted, most people presumed him to be dead.dead, and Auron is [[TheStoic not the type to take advantage of fame]].
20th Jun '17 3:30:52 AM AirofMystery
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* In ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'', Scott Lang/Ant-Man gets extremely annoyed when Tony Stark has no idea who he is, considering Scott helped save the day in ''Film/AntMan''.

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* In ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'', Scott Lang/Ant-Man gets extremely annoyed when Tony Stark has no idea who he is, considering Scott helped save the day in ''Film/AntMan''. (That said, Ant-Man is a relative newcomer to the superhero community at that point, so he's pretty small-time.)
17th Jun '17 10:44:39 AM nombretomado
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* Rafael Nadal has more French Open titles than anyone in the history of {{tennis}} but is usually TheUnfavourite when he plays the French Open with many people, the French crowds included, deriding him for being a BoringInvincibleHero there.

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* Rafael Nadal has more French Open titles than anyone in the history of {{tennis}} UsefulNotes/{{tennis}} but is usually TheUnfavourite when he plays the French Open with many people, the French crowds included, deriding him for being a BoringInvincibleHero there.
13th Jun '17 10:48:32 AM AlienPatch
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** Buttons also. [[BadlyBatteredBabysitter He suffers a lot to save]] [[TooDumbToLive Mindy]], and always gets berated in the end with his actions never been recognized.



* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' being about [[SliceOfLife the everyday life of the cast]] intersected with SavingTheWorld arcs, this comes up in quite often : for example, it's much harder to make a plot about learning to BeYourself despite social pressure when social pressure is nearly inexistent because everyone considers you a hero.

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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' being about [[SliceOfLife the everyday life of the cast]] intersected with SavingTheWorld arcs, this comes up in quite often : often: for example, it's much harder to make a plot about learning to BeYourself despite social pressure when social pressure is nearly inexistent because everyone considers you a hero.
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