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16th Nov '17 8:53:22 AM EDP
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** Minako/Sailor Venus. She's the Sailor Senshi active for the most time, stops bank robbers in her free time and single-handedly freed London from Dark Kingdom monsters (where the other Sailor Senshi were nearly killed many times, once being saved by Venus who had just returned from London). Comes second season and we find out that Sailor Venus has apparently been overshadowed by Sailor Moon and forgotten. At least in the [[Manga/SailorMoon manga]] she's still famous… It didn't help that her Sailor V persona was presumed dead after one mission back in England.

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** Minako/Sailor Venus. She's the Sailor Senshi active for the most time, stops bank robbers in her free time and single-handedly freed London from Dark Kingdom monsters (where the other Sailor Senshi were nearly killed many times, once being saved by Venus who had just returned from London). Comes second season and we find out that Sailor Venus has apparently been overshadowed by Sailor Moon and forgotten. At least in the [[Manga/SailorMoon manga]] she's still famous… famous... It didn't help that her Sailor V persona was presumed dead after one mission back in England.England.
*** Subtler, but she gets the same treatment in the Dream Arc of the manga... From her own teammates, who are so in awe of the Outers they completely forgot her role in training them in the first arc, rescuing them from the Black Moon in the second, and generally putting a performance as good or better than the Outers in the third, something she eventually call them out on-before going on what under the circumstances is a suicide mission just to prove she still has it.
8th Nov '17 12:47:36 AM SSJMagus
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* Benedict Arnold was one of the best U.S. generals but was constantly passed over for promotion and generally treated like shit by his superiors, so him becoming a turncloak is quite understandable. Ironically, after his defection Arnold was rewarded by the British with a commission of brigadier general, a reduction from his Continental Army position of major general. He was treated with contempt by his superior, Sir Henry Clinton, and mistrusted by his subordinates because they considered him a traitor--both to Great Britain ''and'' to the colonists. In other words, he received a lesser version of RewardedAsATraitorDeserves...

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* Benedict Arnold was one of the best U.S. generals and in particular his victory at Saratoga (in which he displayed both great skill and extraordinary bravery) was ''the'' turning point in the war, but was constantly passed over for promotion and generally treated like shit by his superiors, so him becoming a turncloak is quite understandable.understandable. Arnold probably didn't help his case by being generally unpleasant to his fellow officers and openly claiming to be the best general on either side of the war (even though a good case could be made that he was ''right''). Ironically, after his defection Arnold was rewarded by the British with a commission of brigadier general, a reduction from his Continental Army position of major general. He was treated with contempt by his superior, Sir Henry Clinton, and mistrusted by his subordinates because they considered him a traitor--both to Great Britain ''and'' to the colonists. In other words, he received a lesser version of RewardedAsATraitorDeserves...
23rd Oct '17 3:41:08 AM Macsen
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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'': Ash is still treated as an average trainer by new trainers that he meets despite the numerous accomplishments he has achieved. You would think that a guy who won against 36 Gym Leaders in 5 regions and got up into at least the top 10 in the league challenges that followed, ''beat'' the Orange League champion, defeated the Battle Frontier, has befriended and caught numerous Pokemon over his years of traveling, won numerous conventional battles and even those he lost against ended up respecting his talent, has helped out countless people who were in trouble, and on at least a dozen occasions saved the world from the wrath of legendary Pokemon would get a little recognition now and again. It seems extremely implausible that he hasn't at least gotten a few reporters asking for an interview or entered a town or two that has heard about him. It doesn't help that [[StrongAsTheyNeedToBe how good Ash, along with how strong his Pikachu is, depends entirely on what the plot requires.]] He might vary from coming off as an average trainer, simply because if he was kept consistent after each season there would be no tension. The only humans who ever really respected him were Gary after the two reconciled, his mother, and Prof. Oak. Pokémon themselves, however, respect him immensely, including most Legendaries.

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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'': Ash is still treated as an average trainer by new trainers that he meets despite the numerous accomplishments he has achieved. You would think that a guy who won against 36 Gym Leaders in 5 regions and got up into at least the top 10 in the league challenges that followed, ''beat'' the Orange League champion, defeated the Battle Frontier, has befriended and caught numerous Pokemon over his years of traveling, won numerous conventional battles and even those he lost against ended up respecting his talent, has helped out countless people who were in trouble, and on at least a dozen occasions saved the world from the wrath of legendary Pokemon would get a little recognition now and again. It seems extremely implausible that he hasn't at least gotten a few reporters asking for an interview or entered a town or two that has heard about him. It doesn't help that [[StrongAsTheyNeedToBe how good Ash, along with how strong his Pikachu is, depends entirely on what the plot requires.]] He might vary from coming off as an average trainer, simply because if he was kept consistent after each season there would be no tension. The only humans who ever really respected him were Gary after the two reconciled, his mother, and Prof. Oak. Pokémon themselves, however, respect him immensely, including most Legendaries.with many Legendaries regarding him as a ChosenOne at various points (particularly in [[Anime/Pokemon2000 the second film]] and ''Best Wishes'').
** In an episode of ''Sun and Moon'', Mallow, one of Ash's classmates at the Pokémon School in Alola, quits her father's restaurant because she feels she doesn't get the respect she deserves for her contributions to the restaurant.
19th Oct '17 12:57:27 PM BeerBaron
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** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'' is horrible as this, as you could be head of the Imperial Legion and soldiers would still treat you like dirt. Same goes for being head of a great house, which fails to gather respect from fellow house members. Although in the case of the Telvanni, it's in-character. You do get respect for completing the main quest (to the point that you can walk around in your underwear and many [=NPCs=] will ''still'' just gush about the mighty player character deigning to speak to them), and the mechanisms of the game means that members of a faction you are the head of tend to treat you better. Not because your rank as such, mind (''that'' is limited to switching one word to your current rank, and for the Imperial Legion only not complaining about you being out of uniform), but because to get to a higher rank you have to increase your reputation in that faction... which, in turn, makes members of that faction react more positively to you. In other words, they do not give you the respect you deserve, but they do, at least, tend to react to you as a friend rather than as scum.
** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'', you can be the freakin' Archmage and everyone in town will still treat you like J. Random Peasant. And even if you helped the emperor's heir save the world or something, you still have to start as an Apprentice in the Mage's Guild or an Amateur in the Fighter's Guild with others treating you like crap. Later averted, though; when you complete the main story, people will shower you with praise when they see you. And if you are the Arch-Mage, the mages at the Arcane U show proper respect.

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** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'' is horrible as this, as Morrowind]]'':
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you could be head of the Imperial Legion and soldiers would still treat you like dirt. Same goes for being head of a great house, which fails to gather respect from fellow house members. Although in the case of the Telvanni, it's in-character. You do get respect for completing complete the main quest (to and then join one of the point factions, you'll still need to do that faction's beginner level quests while being treated like "new meat" by your new superiors and comrades even though you're a [[SavingTheWorld world-saving hero]] who defeated [[BigBad a foe]] ''[[PhysicalGod three other gods]]'' couldn't defeat. At least you can walk around in your underwear and many [=NPCs=] will ''still'' just gush about use the mighty player character deigning to speak to them), and the mechanisms of the game means that members of a faction you are the head of tend to treat you better. Not because your rank as such, mind (''that'' is limited to switching one word to your current rank, and for the Imperial Legion only not complaining about you being out of uniform), but because to get to a higher rank you have "Nerevarine" dialogue option to increase your reputation in that faction... which, in turn, makes members of that faction react their disposition a bit so they'll be more positively to you.pleasant. In other words, they do not give you the respect you deserve, but they do, at least, tend to react to you as a friend rather than as scum.
*** A big offender is being the head of the [[BadassArmy Imperial Legion]]. Imperial soldiers, who now technically report to you, will still treat you like you're a new recruit.
*** Likewise for [[TheClan Great House]] [[TheMagocracy Telvanni]], though at least it's Justified as completely in-character for them, seeing as how they're a group of magical {{Mad Scientist}}s with InsufferableGenius and ForScience traits.
** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'', you Oblivion]]'':
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can be the freakin' Archmage and everyone in town will still treat you like J. Random Peasant. And even if you helped the emperor's heir save the world or something, you still have to start as an Apprentice in the Mage's Guild or an Amateur in the Fighter's Guild with others treating you like crap. Later averted, though; when you complete the main story, people will shower you with praise when they see you. And if you are the Arch-Mage, the mages at the Arcane U show proper respect.



** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'' has some examples of this, in the same vein as ''Oblivion'', but the biggest offender is Vilkas. After succesfully defeating Alduin (leader of all the dragons), becoming Archmage, Listener of the Dark Brotherhood, Guildmaster of the Thieves Guild, Thane of every city, and pretty much single handedly winning the civil war, and countless other stuff, you walk into Jorrvaskr with the intention of becoming a companion, only to be refused by him, telling the harbinger "I've never even heard of this outsider".

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** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'' has some examples of this, in the same vein as ''Oblivion'', but the Skyrim]]'':
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biggest offender is Vilkas. After succesfully quite possibly Vilkas of the Companions. If you first attempt to join the Companions after successfully defeating Alduin (leader of all the dragons), (legendary BeastOfTheApocalypse), becoming Archmage, TheArchmage, Listener of the [[MurderInc Dark Brotherhood, Guildmaster Brotherhood]], Master Thief of the Thieves Guild, ThievesGuild, Thane of every city, and pretty much single handedly winning [[OneManArmy single-handedly winning]] the civil war, {{Civil War}}, and completing countless other stuff, you side quests, you'll walk into Jorrvaskr with the intention of becoming a companion, Companion, only to be refused by him, with him telling the harbinger Harbinger "I've never even heard of this outsider".outsider".
*** The Companions can lead to a lot of humorous instances of this trope. Like the second-newest member (after you) boasts about killing a bear yesterday, asking what *you* killed the day before. Unfortunately, there is no way to respond with "two dragons, a draugr deathlord, and an entire bandit encampment." And some of the more senior members will still openly tell you that they think you're a wimp, even if you're now the ''Harbinger''.



*** The Companions can lead to a lot of humorous instances of this trope. Like the second-newest member (after you) boasts about killing a bear yesterday, asking what *you* killed the day before. Unfortunately, there is no way to respond with "two dragons, a draugr deathlord, and an entire bandit encampment." And some of the more senior members will still openly tell you that they think you're a wimp.


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*** In the ''Dragonborn'' DLC, Master Neloth (of the aforementioned House Telvanni) returns as a major player in the DLC storyline. Being the world-saving Dragonborn doesn't get you an iota of respect from him. Archmage of the College of Winterhold? Still condescending. One way the Dragonborn ''can'' impress him is to have read the [[GreatBigBookOfEverything Oghma Infinium]] before meeting him, due to having done something that Neloth himself tried to do for years without success.
7th Oct '17 3:39:40 PM Milarqui
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** Stannis perceives Robert giving him Dragonstone as a slight, but WordOfGod is that it was meant as an honor and Robert would have to keep all his conquered lands children.
** Jaime Lannister. He saved King's Landing from being burnt to the ground by Aerys Targeryen, but everyone felt that breaking his oath to protect Aerys was more important. Ever since, he's been dubbed the Kingslayer and is treated with mildly concealed contempt by everyone.

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** Stannis perceives Robert giving him Dragonstone as a slight, but WordOfGod is that it was meant as an honor (particularly since Dragonstone was seen as the heir's lands), and Robert would could have been well in his right to keep all that and the Stormlands for his conquered lands children.
** Jaime Lannister. He saved King's Landing from being burnt to the ground by Aerys Targeryen, but everyone felt that breaking his oath to protect Aerys was more important.important (not that he helped it, since he never told anyone about the "being burnt to the ground" thing). Ever since, he's been dubbed the Kingslayer and is treated with mildly concealed contempt by everyone.
13th Sep '17 11:13:47 PM Maddoxsort
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"Don't you know who I am? Where's my respect?" Of course, you've [[ButThouMust got no choice]] but to debase yourself and comply with this humiliating request, even though you've probably gone FromNobodyToNightmare and by rights [[CombatPragmatist you should just]] [[KickTheSonOfABitch kill them]] and take what you need. Is a little empathy [[DidYouThinkICantFeel so hard to muster?]] Also, [[NoHeroDiscount don't expect merchants to give you a discount]] or something because you're a known hero and benefactor. Hell, some will even try to charge you more because you're famous.

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"Don't you know who I am? Where's my respect?" Of course, you've [[ButThouMust got no choice]] but to debase yourself and comply with this humiliating request, even though you've probably gone FromNobodyToNightmare and by rights [[CombatPragmatist you should just]] [[KickTheSonOfABitch kill them]] and take what you need. Is a little empathy [[DidYouThinkICantFeel so hard to muster?]] Also, [[NoHeroDiscount don't expect merchants to give you a discount]] or something because you're a known hero and benefactor. Hell, some will even try to [[AdamSmithHatesYourGuts charge you more because you're famous.
famous.]]
10th Sep '17 11:50:57 PM go7hdic4x
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* Pick nearly any online game with a support class, and they'll likely be treated like they're taking up space, especially if they're a healer. Two great examples are [[Videogame/{{Overwatch}} Mercy]] and [[Videogame/TeamFortress2 The Medic]], despite being poster children (and one the unwanted trope namer) for ShootTheMedicFirst, due [[KlingonScientistsGetNoRespect to being healers in games all about killing people.]] One noticeable subversion are [[Videogame/{{Dofus}} The]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Wakfu}} Eniripsa]], who are known to [[WhyAmITicking use their own teammates as explosives]], or [[CameBackWrong turn people into zombies]], earning them a bit of fear and/or hatred by others.

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* Pick nearly any online game with a support class, and they'll likely be treated like they're taking up space, [[NoExperiencePointsForMedic especially if they're a healer. healer.]] Two great examples are [[Videogame/{{Overwatch}} Mercy]] and [[Videogame/TeamFortress2 The Medic]], despite being poster children (and one the unwanted trope namer) for ShootTheMedicFirst, due [[KlingonScientistsGetNoRespect to being healers in games all about killing people.]] One noticeable subversion are [[Videogame/{{Dofus}} The]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Wakfu}} Eniripsa]], who are known to [[WhyAmITicking use their own teammates as explosives]], or [[CameBackWrong turn people into zombies]], earning them a bit of fear and/or hatred by others.
10th Sep '17 8:39:25 PM go7hdic4x
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* Pick nearly any online game with a support class, and they'll likely be treated like they're taking up space, especially if they're a healer. Two great examples are [[Videogame/{{Overwatch}} Mercy]] and [[Videogame/TeamFortress2 The Medic]], despite being poster children (and one the unwanted trope namer) for ShootTheMedicFirst, due [[KlingonScientistsGetNoRespect to being healers in games all about killing people.]] One noticeable subversion are [[Videogame/{{Dofus}} The]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Wakfu}} Eniripsa]], who are known to [[WhyAmITicking use their own teammates as explosives]], or [[CameBackWrong turn people into zombies]], earning them a bit of fear and/or hatred by others.
30th Aug '17 8:41:21 PM BattleMaster
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** Once again played very straight in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}''. You might be named ''General'' of the Minutemen, but that won't stop your alleged second-in-command from telling you to go kill a nest of ghouls ''every five minutes''. The Brotherhood of Steel and Institute aren't any better. At least in the case of the Railroad it's justified in that you end up as one of their few remaining senior operatives, so they ''have'' to keep leaning on you for support. And then there's [[TheScrappy Marcy Long]], a civilian who does nothing but bitch at you about how terrible everything is no matter how hard you've worked turning Sanctuary into the best settlement in the entire Commonwealth.
14th Aug '17 6:18:04 AM Spanks
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** Averted and ''deconstructed'' in the Season Seven episode "Fame And Misfortune". The Mane Six decide to publish their Friendship Journal (kept from Season 4) and give it to the other Ponies in Equestria to read, hoping they would take their lessons and use them to better themselves. The Mane Six become instant overnight celebrities. They are famous far and wide, and everyone knows them. Unfortunately, the ponies miss the point of the journal entries and start [[LoonyFan harassing them]] [[GoneHorriblyRight to no end]]. After being put through the wringer several times over by their adoring "fans", it would be safe to assume the Mane Six wouldn't mind going back to being widely ignored.
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