History Main / DroitDuSeigneur

22nd Apr '16 8:47:38 PM TV4Fun
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The trope was popularized and treated as a reality in works written during the Enlightenment (notably in Beaumarchais's [[AdaptationDisplacement and Mozart's]] ''Theatre/TheMarriageOfFigaro''), as the droit du seigneur was seen as embodying [[AristocratsAreEvil the abuses of the aristocracy]] and/or [[TheDungAges the supposed barbarism of the Middle Ages]]. To this day there are more examples of backlash against the supposed law than there are chronicled occurrences of it.

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The trope was popularized and treated as a reality in works written during the Enlightenment (notably in Beaumarchais's [[AdaptationDisplacement and Mozart's]] ''Theatre/TheMarriageOfFigaro''), as the droit du seigneur was seen as embodying [[AristocratsAreEvil the abuses of the aristocracy]] and/or [[TheDungAges the supposed barbarism of the Middle Ages]]. To this day [[DeadUnicornTrope there are more examples of backlash against the supposed law than there are chronicled occurrences of it.
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8th Mar '16 5:02:18 PM GrammarNavi
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* Mentioned in ''TheToughGuideToFantasyland'' as one of the things that bad Aristocratic Feudalists like to get up to when oppressing the peasantry.

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* Mentioned in ''TheToughGuideToFantasyland'' ''Literature/TheToughGuideToFantasyland'' as one of the things that bad Aristocratic Feudalists like to get up to when oppressing the peasantry.
26th Feb '16 6:26:07 AM Morgenthaler
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** The late [[TheCaligula Mad King]] Aerys II lusted after Joanna Lannister, wife of his Hand Tywin Lannister. He joked that it was a shame that the practice had been outlawed, antagonizing Tywin. Although he is not known to have raped Joanna, Barristan Selmy does confirm that he took liberties in the bedding ritual, apparently going further than the accepted disrobing of the bride.

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** The late [[TheCaligula Mad King]] Aerys II lusted after Joanna Lannister, wife of his Hand NumberTwo Tywin Lannister. He joked that it was a shame that the practice had been outlawed, antagonizing Tywin. Although he is not known to have raped Joanna, Barristan Selmy does confirm that he took liberties in the bedding ritual, apparently going further than the accepted disrobing of the bride.
1st Feb '16 10:39:15 AM Darkmane
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The historical basis for the "right" is murky, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droit_du_seigneur as discussed on the Other Wiki.]] Though historians have found no evidence that this practice was codified in common law, other historians argue that it was practiced informally and extra-legally as early as in the times of the Roman Empire and as lately as the turn of the century (which century is never really specified) in rural areas of Armenia and Uttar Pradesh, a region in India. The last reliable records regarding droit du seigneur are from XIX-century Imperial Russia, where well-documented criminal cases existed that accused various noblemen of practicing this (not trying, but actively practicing for years until someone reported to the authorities). In addition, there is historical basis for the ''seigneur'' having the right to a cash payment when the daughter of one of his unfree tenants was married.

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The historical basis for the "right" is murky, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droit_du_seigneur as discussed on the Other Wiki.]] Though historians have found no evidence that this practice was codified in common law, other historians argue that it was practiced informally and extra-legally as early as in the times of the Roman Empire and as lately as the turn of the century (which century is never really specified) in rural areas of Armenia and Uttar Pradesh, a region in India.specified). The last reliable records regarding droit du seigneur are from XIX-century Imperial Russia, where well-documented criminal cases existed that accused various noblemen of practicing this (not trying, but actively practicing for years until someone reported to the authorities). In addition, there is historical basis for the ''seigneur'' having the right to a cash payment when the daughter of one of his unfree tenants was married.
23rd Jan '16 4:29:46 PM Taskmaster123
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* This was invoked by DoctorDoom once, in a minor way. He was walking through his kingdom one night, saw a family with a beautiful young woman (the daughter) sitting at the dinner table, and came to the door and informed her father that as ruler of Latveria, he had the right to the woman's company. Her father allowed her to go with Doom, but Doom had no underhanded intentions. He just wanted an audience for one of his boastful monologues.
12th Jan '16 7:34:30 PM Jeduthun
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* It also appears in ''Theatre/DonGiovanni'', where Masetto accuses Giovanni of wanting to try this custom out on his bride Zerlina. [[TheCasanova He's not too far off, in fact]].
24th Dec '15 6:58:12 PM TSBasilisk
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* In ''LightNovel/RakuinNoMonshou'' Prince Gil, blitzed out of his mind and jealous of a happy newly-wed couple, demands this with the bride. When the father of the bride tries to talk him down, Gil ends up stabbed in the ensuing struggle.
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6th Nov '15 9:51:56 AM 8088ben
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** The late Mad King Aerys lusted after Joanna Lannister, wife of his Hand Tywin Lannister. He joked that it was a shame that the practice had been outlawed, antagonizing Tywin. Although he is not known to have raped Joanna, Barristan Selmy does confirm that he took liberties in the bedding ritual, apparently going further than the accepted disrobing of the bride.

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** The late [[TheCaligula Mad King King]] Aerys II lusted after Joanna Lannister, wife of his Hand Tywin Lannister. He joked that it was a shame that the practice had been outlawed, antagonizing Tywin. Although he is not known to have raped Joanna, Barristan Selmy does confirm that he took liberties in the bedding ritual, apparently going further than the accepted disrobing of the bride.



** [[RoyalBrat King Joffrey Baratheon]] threatens to do this to Sansa Stark on her wedding night in [[KickTheDog yet another petty torment he inflicts on her]], though his uncle Tyrion's threat to geld him if he lays a hand on her appears to frighten him off.

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** [[RoyalBrat King Joffrey Baratheon]] threatens to do this to Sansa Stark on her wedding night in [[KickTheDog yet another petty torment he inflicts on her]], though his uncle Tyrion's threat to [[GroinAttack geld him him]] if he lays a hand on her appears to frighten him off.
5th Nov '15 10:16:38 AM nombretomado
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* It is said of Axumite[[note]]Read: ancient/medieval Ethiopian[[/note]] general/official Abraham the Split-Faced, Governor of Yemen,[[note]]Historically notable for building a big cathedral in his capital San`a', which for complicated reasons eventually led to an assault on Mecca in the year of the birth of TheProphetMuhammad[[/note]] that his [[TheMagnificent appellation]] derived from a time when he was engaged in a [[KlingonPromotion fight with a man who wanted his job]]. After Abraham received a chop to the center of his face, his servant jumped in and killed his challenger. In gratitude, the guv said the servant could have anything he wanted; the servant asked for the right to sleep with every bride on her wedding night, which Abraham [[HonorBeforeReason disliked but felt honor-bound to allow]]. So the servant went on sleeping with newlywed women for a while until an aggrieved groom killed him. When the case went before him, Abraham ''apologized'' and let the man go free.

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* It is said of Axumite[[note]]Read: ancient/medieval Ethiopian[[/note]] general/official Abraham the Split-Faced, Governor of Yemen,[[note]]Historically notable for building a big cathedral in his capital San`a', which for complicated reasons eventually led to an assault on Mecca in the year of the birth of TheProphetMuhammad[[/note]] UsefulNotes/TheProphetMuhammad[[/note]] that his [[TheMagnificent appellation]] derived from a time when he was engaged in a [[KlingonPromotion fight with a man who wanted his job]]. After Abraham received a chop to the center of his face, his servant jumped in and killed his challenger. In gratitude, the guv said the servant could have anything he wanted; the servant asked for the right to sleep with every bride on her wedding night, which Abraham [[HonorBeforeReason disliked but felt honor-bound to allow]]. So the servant went on sleeping with newlywed women for a while until an aggrieved groom killed him. When the case went before him, Abraham ''apologized'' and let the man go free.
2nd Nov '15 2:45:39 AM StFan
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* Referenced in Larry Gonick's ''ComicBook/CartoonHistoryOfTheUniverse'', in telling the story of an Ethiopian general Abraham the Split-Face, so named due to his taking an axe blade in the face during a duel. His servant saved him during the duel and helped him kill the other duelist, and Abraham offered to reward the servant anything he desired. When the servant demanded that he be allowed to exercise The Lord's Right, Abraham reluctantly agreed. However, after an irate husband murdered the servant, Abraham let the killer off and apologized for his servant's actions.

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* Referenced in Larry Gonick's ''ComicBook/CartoonHistoryOfTheUniverse'', ''ComicBook/TheCartoonHistoryOfTheUniverse'', in telling the story of an Ethiopian general Abraham the Split-Face, so named due to his taking an axe blade in the face during a duel. His servant saved him during the duel and helped him kill the other duelist, and Abraham offered to reward the servant anything he desired. When the servant demanded that he be allowed to exercise The Lord's Right, Abraham reluctantly agreed. However, after an irate husband murdered the servant, Abraham let the killer off and apologized for his servant's actions.



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