History Main / DroitDuSeigneur

17th Jun '16 12:55:58 AM Doug86
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* Played straight in ''AConnecticutYankeeInKingArthursCourt''. Arthur, while hearing cases, condemns a peasant girl for marrying without giving her lord his customary rights--even though the girl's lord is a bishop. As Arthur [[ValuesDissonance reasonably notes]], it might be a sin for the bishop to sleep with a girl, but that's a matter between the bishop and the Pope (and God); it doesn't change the fact that under ''British'' law, the bishop was entitled to the girl's virginity if he wanted it.

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* Played straight in ''AConnecticutYankeeInKingArthursCourt''.''Literature/AConnecticutYankeeInKingArthursCourt''. Arthur, while hearing cases, condemns a peasant girl for marrying without giving her lord his customary rights--even though the girl's lord is a bishop. As Arthur [[ValuesDissonance reasonably notes]], it might be a sin for the bishop to sleep with a girl, but that's a matter between the bishop and the Pope (and God); it doesn't change the fact that under ''British'' law, the bishop was entitled to the girl's virginity if he wanted it.
12th May '16 3:48:42 PM AtmosBlitzer
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** Likely (ab)used by one of the Elector Counts of the Empire: a line in the fluff mentions that on the Count's defeat by a Champion of Chaos, all the womenfolk burst into cheers. [[GoodFeelsGood Feeling strangely pleased]], the Champion left the town unscathed.

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** Likely (ab)used by one of the Elector Counts of the Empire: a line in the fluff mentions that on the Count's defeat by a Champion of Chaos, [[AndThereWasMuchRejoicing all the womenfolk burst into cheers. cheers.]] [[GoodFeelsGood Feeling strangely pleased]], the Champion left the town unscathed.
5th May '16 10:53:10 AM Adeon
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* This comes up in Creator/JohnRingo's ''Literature/PaladinOfShadows'' series. The main character is reluctant to follow through with a tradition that requires the Kildar to deflower a newly married Keldaran woman, with the reasoning that you don't have sex with the brides of men who have guns at your back, but is eventually convinced to accept it by the village elders. A few books later, he figures out the real reason for it and refuses to do it again.

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* This comes up in Creator/JohnRingo's ''Literature/PaladinOfShadows'' series. The main character is reluctant to follow through with a tradition that requires the Kildar Keldar to deflower a newly married Keldaran woman, with the reasoning that you don't have sex with the brides of men who have guns at your back, but is eventually convinced to accept it by the village elders. A few books later, he figures out the real reason for it and refuses to do it again.again[[note]]The Keldar community is relatively small and isolated and consequently has a certain amount of inbreeding. Since the main character (and the previous lords) have all been foreigners the Keldar are using the tradition to introduce new genes into the community and reduce the amount of inbreeding.[[/note]].
22nd Apr '16 8:47:38 PM TV4Fun
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The trope was popularized and treated as a reality in works written during the Enlightenment (notably in Beaumarchais's [[AdaptationDisplacement and Mozart's]] ''Theatre/TheMarriageOfFigaro''), as the droit du seigneur was seen as embodying [[AristocratsAreEvil the abuses of the aristocracy]] and/or [[TheDungAges the supposed barbarism of the Middle Ages]]. To this day there are more examples of backlash against the supposed law than there are chronicled occurrences of it.

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The trope was popularized and treated as a reality in works written during the Enlightenment (notably in Beaumarchais's [[AdaptationDisplacement and Mozart's]] ''Theatre/TheMarriageOfFigaro''), as the droit du seigneur was seen as embodying [[AristocratsAreEvil the abuses of the aristocracy]] and/or [[TheDungAges the supposed barbarism of the Middle Ages]]. To this day [[DeadUnicornTrope there are more examples of backlash against the supposed law than there are chronicled occurrences of it.
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8th Mar '16 5:02:18 PM GrammarNavi
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* Mentioned in ''TheToughGuideToFantasyland'' as one of the things that bad Aristocratic Feudalists like to get up to when oppressing the peasantry.

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* Mentioned in ''TheToughGuideToFantasyland'' ''Literature/TheToughGuideToFantasyland'' as one of the things that bad Aristocratic Feudalists like to get up to when oppressing the peasantry.
26th Feb '16 6:26:07 AM Morgenthaler
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** The late [[TheCaligula Mad King]] Aerys II lusted after Joanna Lannister, wife of his Hand Tywin Lannister. He joked that it was a shame that the practice had been outlawed, antagonizing Tywin. Although he is not known to have raped Joanna, Barristan Selmy does confirm that he took liberties in the bedding ritual, apparently going further than the accepted disrobing of the bride.

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** The late [[TheCaligula Mad King]] Aerys II lusted after Joanna Lannister, wife of his Hand NumberTwo Tywin Lannister. He joked that it was a shame that the practice had been outlawed, antagonizing Tywin. Although he is not known to have raped Joanna, Barristan Selmy does confirm that he took liberties in the bedding ritual, apparently going further than the accepted disrobing of the bride.
1st Feb '16 10:39:15 AM Darkmane
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The historical basis for the "right" is murky, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droit_du_seigneur as discussed on the Other Wiki.]] Though historians have found no evidence that this practice was codified in common law, other historians argue that it was practiced informally and extra-legally as early as in the times of the Roman Empire and as lately as the turn of the century (which century is never really specified) in rural areas of Armenia and Uttar Pradesh, a region in India. The last reliable records regarding droit du seigneur are from XIX-century Imperial Russia, where well-documented criminal cases existed that accused various noblemen of practicing this (not trying, but actively practicing for years until someone reported to the authorities). In addition, there is historical basis for the ''seigneur'' having the right to a cash payment when the daughter of one of his unfree tenants was married.

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The historical basis for the "right" is murky, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droit_du_seigneur as discussed on the Other Wiki.]] Though historians have found no evidence that this practice was codified in common law, other historians argue that it was practiced informally and extra-legally as early as in the times of the Roman Empire and as lately as the turn of the century (which century is never really specified) in rural areas of Armenia and Uttar Pradesh, a region in India.specified). The last reliable records regarding droit du seigneur are from XIX-century Imperial Russia, where well-documented criminal cases existed that accused various noblemen of practicing this (not trying, but actively practicing for years until someone reported to the authorities). In addition, there is historical basis for the ''seigneur'' having the right to a cash payment when the daughter of one of his unfree tenants was married.
23rd Jan '16 4:29:46 PM Taskmaster123
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* This was invoked by DoctorDoom once, in a minor way. He was walking through his kingdom one night, saw a family with a beautiful young woman (the daughter) sitting at the dinner table, and came to the door and informed her father that as ruler of Latveria, he had the right to the woman's company. Her father allowed her to go with Doom, but Doom had no underhanded intentions. He just wanted an audience for one of his boastful monologues.
12th Jan '16 7:34:30 PM Jeduthun
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* It also appears in ''Theatre/DonGiovanni'', where Masetto accuses Giovanni of wanting to try this custom out on his bride Zerlina. [[TheCasanova He's not too far off, in fact]].
24th Dec '15 6:58:12 PM TSBasilisk
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* In ''LightNovel/RakuinNoMonshou'' Prince Gil, blitzed out of his mind and jealous of a happy newly-wed couple, demands this with the bride. When the father of the bride tries to talk him down, Gil ends up stabbed in the ensuing struggle.
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