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28th Sep '17 9:54:00 AM Necrodomo
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* Many of the demon hordes from ''[[NexusWar Nexus Clash]]'' were mortals who were hunted by KnightTemplar angels for nor being sufficiently Good, who in turn said ThenLetMeBeEvil and made [[DealWithTheDevil bargains]] with the Dark Powers to gain the power to fight back.
21st Aug '17 12:31:04 AM Tyoria
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* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', TheDragon Redcloak's race (goblins) was, at least according to his god, created for the sole purpose of being slaughtered for easy XP by the [[FiveRaces PC races]]. In his StartOfDarkness prequel, KnightTemplar good guys destroyed his home, nonchalantly killing noncombatants such as children and old folks, including his entire family except for one of his brothers. So when a vision from his god showed him how he could potentially make the lives of his people better, he took it, despite it having the risk of undoing creation if it fails. As author Rich Burlew says:
-->''Some people choose evil, and some are driven to it by what life has forced them to endure. [[BigBad Xykon]] is not one of these. [[WellIntentionedExtremist Redcloak]], however, might be.''

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* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', TheDragon Redcloak's race (goblins) was, at least according to his god, created for the sole purpose of being slaughtered for easy XP by the [[FiveRaces PC races]]. In his StartOfDarkness prequel, KnightTemplar good guys destroyed his home, nonchalantly killing noncombatants such as children and old folks, including his entire family except for one of his brothers. So when a vision from his god showed him how he could potentially make the lives of his people better, he took it, despite it having the risk of undoing creation if it fails. As author Rich Burlew says:
-->''Some
put it in the introduction:
-->''There are
people choose evil, and some in this world who are driven to it by evil because of what their life has forced them to endure. endure; [[BigBad Xykon]] is not one of these. [[WellIntentionedExtremist Redcloak]], however, those.''\\
''[[WellIntentionedExtremist Redcloak]]
might be.be, though.''
27th Nov '16 2:45:08 AM flodoris
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** Sasuke is an even more literal example, as from a certain point of view his entire life has been orchestrated by at least two major villains for the purpose of making him evil, for their own ends, [[spoiler: namely, Orochimaru and Tobi; Itachi is either an anti-hero or a third major villain, depending on your POV and to what degree Tobi is telling the truth; Danzo might qualify as yet another villain guilty of this, except that he didn't really care about Sasuke and saw him as collateral damage at best for his plans]]. The massacre of his entire family and clan by his beloved older brother (who brutalized him, and told him to hate more and murder his best friend), at the age of 8, was only the beginning of that. At present, [[spoiler: the plan is working quite well indeed]].
** [[spoiler:[[BigBad Tobi]] aka [[FallenHero Obito Uchiha]] also fits this. At him as well as the previous examples was [[StreetUrchin bad]] [[BlackSheep childhood]] but he all the same remained kind and responsive child. But after his entire right side was is crushed by a boulder while saving Kakashi, he took with Kakashi promise to protect Rin at any cost. Later he was is rescued [[BiggerBad Madara]], which decides to put his through DespairEventHorizon in order to made him the perfect accomplice for his plan. So he took under control various shinobi, including [[MoralityChain Rin]], to create a situation where Obito would witness the death of the one person who made his life worth living. Ultimately Obito was witnessed how the love all of his life was killed his best friend who promised to protect her at any cost (though Madara himself admitted that it was only a happy coincidence). And despite easily being the most decent of all the Uchiha in the series, not even Obito was immune to the clan's most fatal flaw: their ability to love more deeply than anyone else. If anything, it was worse for him seeing as he was the most idealistic and emotional of all the Uchiha, and thus his sense of love was far deeper than usual. And also if take into account that Madara placed a seal on Obito's heart which would have prevented him from killing himself should he had abandoned the Moon's Eye Plan and opted for an easier way to end his suffering... you really can't blame the guy for going insane.]]

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** Sasuke is an even more literal example, as from a certain point of view his entire life has been orchestrated by at least two major villains for the purpose of making him evil, for their own ends, [[spoiler: namely, Orochimaru and Tobi; Itachi is either an anti-hero or a third major villain, depending on your POV and to what degree Tobi is telling the truth; Danzo might qualify as yet another villain guilty of this, except that he didn't really care about Sasuke and saw him as collateral damage at best for his plans]]. The massacre of his entire family and clan by his beloved older brother (who brutalized him, and told him to hate more and murder his best friend), at the age of 8, was only the beginning of that. At present, [[spoiler: the plan is working quite well indeed]].
** [[spoiler:[[BigBad Tobi]] aka [[FallenHero Obito Uchiha]] also fits this. is an even more literal example. At him as well as in the previous examples example was [[StreetUrchin bad]] [[BlackSheep childhood]] but he all the same remained kind and responsive child. But after his entire right side was is crushed by a boulder while saving Kakashi, he took with Kakashi promise to protect Rin at any cost. Later he was is rescued [[BiggerBad Madara]], which decides to put his through DespairEventHorizon in order to made him the perfect accomplice for his plan. So he took under control various shinobi, including [[MoralityChain Rin]], to create a situation where Obito would witness the death of the one person who made his life worth living. Ultimately Obito was witnessed how the love all of his life was killed his best friend who promised to protect her at any cost (though Madara himself admitted that it was only a happy coincidence). And despite easily being the most decent of all the Uchiha in the series, not even Obito was immune to the clan's most fatal flaw: their ability to love more deeply than anyone else. If anything, it was worse for him seeing as he was the most idealistic and emotional of all the Uchiha, and thus his sense of love was far deeper than usual. And also if take into account that Madara placed a seal on Obito's heart which would have prevented him from killing himself should he had abandoned the Moon's Eye Plan and opted for an easier way to end his suffering... you really can't blame the guy for going insane.]]
25th Nov '16 11:15:04 AM flodoris
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** [[spoiler:[[BigBad Tobi]] aka [[FallenHero Obito Uchiha]] also fits this. At him as well as the previous examples was [[StreetUrchin bad]] [[BlackSheep childhood]] but he all the same remained kind and responsive child. But after his entire right side is crushed by a boulder while saving Kakashi, he makes Kakashi promise to protect Rin at any cost. He is rescued by [[BiggerBad Madara]], which decides to put it through DespairEventHorizon in order to made him the perfect accomplice for his plan. So he took mind-controlled various shinobi, including [[MoralityChain Rin]], to create a situation where Obito would witness the death of the one person who made his life worth living. Ultimately Obito was witnessed how the love all of his life was killed his best friend who promised to protect her at any cost. And despite easily being the most decent of all the Uchiha in the series, not even Obito was immune to the clan's most fatal flaw: their ability to love more deeply than anyone else. If anything, it was worse for him seeing as he was the most idealistic and emotional of all the Uchiha, and thus his sense of love was far deeper than usual. Also if take into account that Madara placed a seal on Obito's heart which would have prevented him from killing himself should he had abandoned the Moon's Eye Plan and opted for an easier way to end his suffering... you really can't blame the guy for going insane.]]

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** [[spoiler:[[BigBad Tobi]] aka [[FallenHero Obito Uchiha]] also fits this. At him as well as the previous examples was [[StreetUrchin bad]] [[BlackSheep childhood]] but he all the same remained kind and responsive child. But after his entire right side was is crushed by a boulder while saving Kakashi, he makes took with Kakashi promise to protect Rin at any cost. He Later he was is rescued by [[BiggerBad Madara]], which decides to put it his through DespairEventHorizon in order to made him the perfect accomplice for his plan. So he took mind-controlled under control various shinobi, including [[MoralityChain Rin]], to create a situation where Obito would witness the death of the one person who made his life worth living. Ultimately Obito was witnessed how the love all of his life was killed his best friend who promised to protect her at any cost.cost (though Madara himself admitted that it was only a happy coincidence). And despite easily being the most decent of all the Uchiha in the series, not even Obito was immune to the clan's most fatal flaw: their ability to love more deeply than anyone else. If anything, it was worse for him seeing as he was the most idealistic and emotional of all the Uchiha, and thus his sense of love was far deeper than usual. Also And also if take into account that Madara placed a seal on Obito's heart which would have prevented him from killing himself should he had abandoned the Moon's Eye Plan and opted for an easier way to end his suffering... you really can't blame the guy for going insane.]]
25th Nov '16 9:08:56 AM flodoris
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** [[spoiler:[[BigBad Tobi]] aka [[FallenHero Obito Uchiha]] also fits this. At him as well as the previous examples was [[StreetUrchin bad]] [[BlackSheep childhood]] but he all the same remained kind and responsive child. But after his entire right side is crushed by a boulder while saving Kakashi, he makes Kakashi promise to protect Rin at any cost. He is rescued by [[BiggerBad Madara]], which decides to put it through DespairEventHorizon in order to made him the perfect accomplice for his plan. So he took mind-controlled various shinobi, including [[MoralityChain Rin]], to create a situation where Obito would witness the death of the one person who made his life worth living. Ultimately Obito was witnessed how the love all of his life was killed his best friend who promised to protect her at any cost. And despite easily being the most decent of all the Uchiha in the series, not even Obito was immune to the clan's most fatal flaw: their ability to love more deeply than anyone else. If anything, it was worse for him seeing as he was the most idealistic and emotional of all the Uchiha, and thus his sense of love was far deeper than usual. Also if take into account that Madara placed a seal on Obito's heart which would have prevented him from killing himself should he had abandoned the Moon's Eye Plan and opted for an easier way to end his suffering... you really can't blame the guy for going insane.]]
21st Sep '16 10:41:02 AM flodoris
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** Sasuke is an even more literal example, as from a certain point of view his entire life has been orchestrated by at least two major villains for the purpose of making him evil, for their own ends, [[spoiler: namely, Orochimaru and Madara; Itachi is either an anti-hero or a third major villain, depending on your POV and to what degree Madara is telling the truth; Danzou might qualify as yet another villain guilty of this, except that he didn't really care about Sasuke and saw him as collateral damage at best for his plans]]. The massacre of his entire family and clan by his beloved older brother (who brutalized him, and told him to hate more and murder his best friend), at the age of 8, was only the beginning of that. At present, [[spoiler: the plan is working quite well indeed]].

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** Sasuke is an even more literal example, as from a certain point of view his entire life has been orchestrated by at least two major villains for the purpose of making him evil, for their own ends, [[spoiler: namely, Orochimaru and Madara; Tobi; Itachi is either an anti-hero or a third major villain, depending on your POV and to what degree Madara Tobi is telling the truth; Danzou Danzo might qualify as yet another villain guilty of this, except that he didn't really care about Sasuke and saw him as collateral damage at best for his plans]]. The massacre of his entire family and clan by his beloved older brother (who brutalized him, and told him to hate more and murder his best friend), at the age of 8, was only the beginning of that. At present, [[spoiler: the plan is working quite well indeed]].
24th Jul '16 4:40:10 PM nombretomado
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* Aion in the manga version of ''ChronoCrusade'' was badly psychologically damaged after discovering the AwfulTruth--so badly that it even had a [[LockedIntoStrangeness marked physical effect]] on him. That event warped him into the WellIntentionedExtremist we see him as in the series.

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* Aion in the manga version of ''ChronoCrusade'' ''Manga/ChronoCrusade'' was badly psychologically damaged after discovering the AwfulTruth--so badly that it even had a [[LockedIntoStrangeness marked physical effect]] on him. That event warped him into the WellIntentionedExtremist we see him as in the series.
13th Jul '16 2:10:10 AM PaulA
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* VCAndrews has this in the more infamous big bad's in the series. The tragic past of the main villain is usually revealed in a prequel.
* Kissin' Kate Barlow in ''{{Holes}}'' by Louis Sachar was a sweet schoolteacher until the town she taught in [[spoiler: lynched the man she loved because he'd kissed her, and they were different races.]]
* In ''[[AuntDimity Aunt Dimity Goes West]]'', it is revealed that an infamous local mine disaster was due to sabotage caused by a disgruntled employee who had owned the claim originally, sold it for a pittance ($5,000.00), and later learned it contained a rich vein of gold (worth $200 million!). It also turns out that [[spoiler: his wife committed suicide, his son was sent to an orphanage, and his great-grandson later reopened the mine and set a bomb in it to destroy the house built on the site by the owner's descendants]].

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* VCAndrews Creator/VCAndrews has this in the more infamous big bad's bads in the series. The tragic past of the main villain is usually revealed in a prequel.
* Kissin' Kate Barlow in ''{{Holes}}'' ''Literature/{{Holes}}'' by Louis Sachar was a sweet schoolteacher until the town she taught in [[spoiler: lynched the man she loved because he'd kissed her, and they were different races.]]
* In ''[[AuntDimity ''[[Literature/AuntDimity Aunt Dimity Goes West]]'', it is revealed that an infamous local mine disaster was due to sabotage caused by a disgruntled employee who had owned the claim originally, sold it for a pittance ($5,000.00), and later learned it contained a rich vein of gold (worth $200 million!). It also turns out that [[spoiler: his wife committed suicide, his son was sent to an orphanage, and his great-grandson later reopened the mine and set a bomb in it to destroy the house built on the site by the owner's descendants]].
29th Jun '16 5:59:04 PM nombretomado
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* Kael'Thas Sunstrider in WorldOfWarcraft. His homeland was wrecked, his people's allies in the Alliance turned on them, and long term exposure to the Sunwell followed by its' removal had given his people addictions to magic. The only way to escape the Alliance general hunting him was to flee to Outland, and the only place to get large amounts of magic in Outland is to absorb it from demons. Tragically, Fel energy is even more addictive than normal magic and makes one DrunkOnTheDarkSide, to the point where Kael is willing to align with the same Demon Lord who ordered his homeland destroyed in the first place to get more power.

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* Kael'Thas Sunstrider in WorldOfWarcraft.''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''. His homeland was wrecked, his people's allies in the Alliance turned on them, and long term exposure to the Sunwell followed by its' removal had given his people addictions to magic. The only way to escape the Alliance general hunting him was to flee to Outland, and the only place to get large amounts of magic in Outland is to absorb it from demons. Tragically, Fel energy is even more addictive than normal magic and makes one DrunkOnTheDarkSide, to the point where Kael is willing to align with the same Demon Lord who ordered his homeland destroyed in the first place to get more power.
23rd Jun '16 6:13:27 AM MrLavisherMoot
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* ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoII'': The manual jokes that the Krishnas went crazy on account of being [[CallBack run over all the time]].

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* ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoII'': ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto2'': The manual jokes that the Krishnas went crazy on account of being [[CallBack run over all the time]].
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