History Main / DreamingOfAWhiteChristmas

2nd Dec '16 11:16:38 PM Jake
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In the [[AVeryBritishChristmas United Kingdom]] -- particularly in Southern England and Wales -- there is seldom any snow at Christmas. Much of the popular mythology of an "old-fashioned" white Christmas goes back to Creator/CharlesDickens, who was really just being nostalgic for ''his'' childhood Christmases of the early 19th century... which happened to fall during the tail end of the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age Little Ice Age]]. The first eight years of Dickens' life saw eight white Christmases in a row. Lucky bugger.

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In the [[AVeryBritishChristmas United Kingdom]] -- particularly in Southern England and Wales -- there is seldom any snow at Christmas. Much of the popular mythology of an "old-fashioned" white Christmas goes back to Creator/CharlesDickens, who was really just being nostalgic for ''his'' childhood Christmases of the early 19th century... which happened to fall during the tail end of the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age Little Ice Age]]. The first eight years of Dickens' life saw eight white Christmases in a row. Lucky bugger.
bugger. Though with a recent spate of possibly climate change-related cold snaps it's not exactly impossible.
27th Nov '16 8:52:54 PM Mdumas43073
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* ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes''. Every single strip set in the winter has feet of snow, enough to make giant snow beasts. Calvin apparently lives in Northern Canada. Or in Ohio in the '60s, '70s, and early '80s (as Bill Watterson did). Yes. There really was that much snow. Ohio, the northern part of the state in particular, gets quite a lot of snow due to the influence of Lake Erie. Although there are some strips where Calvin complains bitterly about the ''lack'' of snow, and one in particular where he lights candles around his sled and then lays on it, praying to the snow demons. There's also a quote something along the lines of, "If I was in charge, we wouldn't see the ground between November and March!"

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* ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes''. Every single strip set in the winter has feet of snow, enough to make giant snow beasts. Calvin apparently lives in Northern Canada. Or in Ohio in the '60s, '70s, and early '80s (as Bill Watterson did). Yes. There (Yes, there really was that much snow. Ohio, the northern part of the state in particular, gets quite a lot of snow due to the influence of Lake Erie. )
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Although there are some strips where Calvin complains bitterly about the ''lack'' of snow, and one in particular where he lights candles around his sled and then lays on it, praying to the snow demons. There's also a quote something along the lines of, "If I was in charge, we wouldn't see the ground between November and March!"
27th Nov '16 12:53:19 PM Mdumas43073
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Unless a work of fiction is in a tropical or arid setting, or in [[UsefulNotes/ChristmasInAustralia the Southern Hemisphere]], it will ''always'' snow in winter. That's how [[SeasonalBaggage you know it's winter]]. Christmas time in particular is always a Currier & Ives picture-postcard affair, hence the trope name. Characters will spend a great deal of time outdoors walking, sledding, sleighing, skiing, and/or snowshoeing through gently falling snow, and there will be at least several inches on the ground already.

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Unless a work of fiction is in a tropical or arid setting, or in [[UsefulNotes/ChristmasInAustralia the Southern Hemisphere]], it will ''always'' snow in winter. That's how [[SeasonalBaggage you know it's winter]]. Christmas time in particular is always a Currier & Ives picture-postcard affair, hence the trope name. Characters will spend a great deal of time outdoors walking, sledding, sleighing, skiing, and/or snowshoeing through gently falling snow, and likely as not there will be at least several inches on the ground already.
27th Nov '16 12:52:56 PM Mdumas43073
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Unless a work of fiction is in a tropical or arid setting, or in [[UsefulNotes/ChristmasInAustralia the Southern Hemisphere]], it will ''always'' snow in winter. That's how [[SeasonalBaggage you know it's winter]]. Christmas time in particular is always a Currier & Ives picture-postcard affair, hence the trope name. Characters will spend a great deal of time outdoors walking, sledding, sleighing, skiing, or snowshoeing through gently falling snow, and there will be at least several inches on the ground already.

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Unless a work of fiction is in a tropical or arid setting, or in [[UsefulNotes/ChristmasInAustralia the Southern Hemisphere]], it will ''always'' snow in winter. That's how [[SeasonalBaggage you know it's winter]]. Christmas time in particular is always a Currier & Ives picture-postcard affair, hence the trope name. Characters will spend a great deal of time outdoors walking, sledding, sleighing, skiing, or and/or snowshoeing through gently falling snow, and there will be at least several inches on the ground already.
27th Nov '16 12:52:29 PM Mdumas43073
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Unless a work of fiction is in a tropical or arid setting, or in [[UsefulNotes/ChristmasInAustralia the Southern Hemisphere]], it will ''always'' snow in winter. That's how [[SeasonalBaggage you know it's winter]]. Christmas time in particular is always a Currier & Ives picture-postcard affair, hence the trope name. If characters aren't outside walking, sledding, sleighing, skiing, or snowshoeing through gently falling snow, there will be at least several inches on the ground already.

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Unless a work of fiction is in a tropical or arid setting, or in [[UsefulNotes/ChristmasInAustralia the Southern Hemisphere]], it will ''always'' snow in winter. That's how [[SeasonalBaggage you know it's winter]]. Christmas time in particular is always a Currier & Ives picture-postcard affair, hence the trope name. If characters aren't outside Characters will spend a great deal of time outdoors walking, sledding, sleighing, skiing, or snowshoeing through gently falling snow, and there will be at least several inches on the ground already.
14th Nov '16 6:13:32 PM Mdumas43073
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TropeNamer is the song [[Music/MerryChristmas ''White Christmas'']] by Music/BingCrosby, composed and written by Music/IrvingBerlin. See also LetThereBeSnow, for when a character specifically wishes for this in a place or time where it would be unlikely.

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TropeNamer is the song [[Music/MerryChristmas ''White Christmas'']] by Music/BingCrosby, composed and written by Music/IrvingBerlin. See also Compare LetThereBeSnow, for when a character specifically wishes for this snowfall in a place or time where it would be unlikely.
8th Nov '16 7:30:48 AM CurledUpWithDakka
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* The fisrt segment of ''Anime/DarkerThanBlack:Ryuusei no Gemini'', [[AliensInCardiff set in Vladivostok]] around Christmas and the New Year, has the city covered in snow which amused the locals to no end, because it, like the most of Manchuria, is known for its dry, windy winters during which the city receives notoriously little snow. In fact, some years may be entirely snowless, and the heaviest snowfalls usually happen ''in March'' anyway.

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* The fisrt first segment of ''Anime/DarkerThanBlack:Ryuusei no Gemini'', [[AliensInCardiff set in Vladivostok]] around Christmas and the New Year, has the city covered in snow which amused the locals to no end, because it, like the most of Manchuria, is known for its dry, windy winters during which the city receives notoriously little snow. In fact, some years may be entirely snowless, and the heaviest snowfalls usually happen ''in March'' anyway.



** Subverted in "The Christmas Invasion". At the end, after the aliens are defeated on Christmas Day, snow starts falling amid a meteor shower. Then the Doctor mentions that it's not snow, it's ash - the alien spaceship burning up in the atmosphere.

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** Subverted in "The Christmas Invasion". At the end, after the aliens are defeated on Christmas Day, snow starts falling amid a meteor shower. Then the Doctor mentions that it's not snow, it's ash - -- the alien spaceship burning up in the atmosphere.



** Another Christmas episode, "Death Takes a Holiday", has snow start falling at the very end of the final scene...even as trees thick with green summer leaves are visible in the background. D'oh!

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** Another Christmas episode, "Death Takes a Holiday", has snow start falling at the very end of the final scene... even as trees thick with green summer leaves are visible in the background. D'oh!



* ''Series/{{Community}}'' was set in Colorado, but filmed in Los Angeles, meaning no snow for outdoor shots...,but they get around this in the holiday episode "Comparative Religion" by having the big climactic fight in the artificial snow of an outdoor 'winter wonderland' tableau.

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* ''Series/{{Community}}'' was set in Colorado, but filmed in Los Angeles, meaning no snow for outdoor shots...,but shots.... But they get around this in the holiday episode "Comparative Religion" by having the big climactic fight in the artificial snow of an outdoor 'winter wonderland' tableau.



* [[TheOtherRainforest The Pacific Northwest]] has a good snowstorm about once a decade. But the wet, windy Decembers are enough for a carol ("Christmas in the Northwest") to have a chorus saying it's a "gift...trimmed in green"

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* [[TheOtherRainforest The Pacific Northwest]] has a good snowstorm about once a decade. But the wet, windy Decembers are enough for a carol ("Christmas in the Northwest") to have a chorus saying it's a "gift... trimmed in green"
22nd Oct '16 8:34:51 PM RisefromYourGrave
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* A ''WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitchTheSeries'' Chistmas episode featured snow in ''Hawaii''. This enters the realm of [[CriticalResearchFailure complete idiocy]]. (Hawaii does get snow, only it's at the top of Mauna Kea.)

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* A ''WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitchTheSeries'' Chistmas Christmas episode featured snow in ''Hawaii''. This enters the realm of [[CriticalResearchFailure complete idiocy]]. ridiculousness. (Hawaii does get snow, only it's at the top of Mauna Kea.Kea on the Big Island, not Kaua'i where the show is set.)
22nd Oct '16 9:26:17 AM Khathi
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* One of the winters portrayed in the ''Manga/DeathNote'' anime is actually completely snowless, to the point where it ''rains'' in January.

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* One of the winters portrayed in the ''Manga/DeathNote'' anime is actually completely snowless, to the point where it ''rains'' in January.January which is actually an entirely normal weather for the Tokyo area. You'd need to head north or into the mountains to see snow in Japan, though some areas in the Japanese Alps are arguably the snowiest places ''on the whole Earth''.


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* The fisrt segment of ''Anime/DarkerThanBlack:Ryuusei no Gemini'', [[AliensInCardiff set in Vladivostok]] around Christmas and the New Year, has the city covered in snow which amused the locals to no end, because it, like the most of Manchuria, is known for its dry, windy winters during which the city receives notoriously little snow. In fact, some years may be entirely snowless, and the heaviest snowfalls usually happen ''in March'' anyway.
7th Oct '16 1:42:36 PM Mdumas43073
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This is most often seen in HollywoodNewEngland, but will likely be the case in any setting if [[SoCalization your writers are from southern California]], which is a much warmer ecosystem and Christmas means pouring rain and flash floods. What little snow they do see is likely the dry, powdery kind from ski trips to Lake Tahoe, not realizing that snow elsewhere tends to be far more wet and heavy. Strangely enough, it seldom snows in fiction during ''other'' winter holidays, except maybe New Year's. Valentine's Day in particular is almost always absent of snow despite being in the middle of February. In RealLife, the white stuff can fly as early as Halloween and as late as Easter in many locales.

In the [[UsefulNotes/ChristmasInAmerica United States]], white Christmases are most likely to be seen in the Northeast, the upper Midwest, and the Rockies. Some years the snow can fly as early as November or even late October. But, again, on TV you never see snow during the Halloween or Thanksgiving episodes.

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This is most often seen in HollywoodNewEngland, but will likely be the case in any setting if [[SoCalization your writers are from southern California]], which is a much warmer ecosystem and Christmas means pouring rain and flash floods. What little snow they do see is likely the dry, powdery kind from ski trips to Lake Tahoe, not realizing that snow elsewhere tends to be far more wet and heavy. Strangely enough, it seldom snows in fiction during ''other'' winter holidays, except maybe New Year's. Valentine's Day in particular is almost always absent of snow despite being in the middle of February. In RealLife, the white stuff can fly as early as Halloween and as late as Easter in many locales.

In the [[UsefulNotes/ChristmasInAmerica United States]], white Christmases are most likely to be seen in the Northeast, the upper Midwest, and the Rockies. Some years the snow can fly as early as November or even October, and as late October. But, again, as April; however, on TV you never you'll pretty much ''never'' see snow during any of the Halloween white stuff in Halloween, Thanksgiving, Valentine's Day, or Thanksgiving Easter episodes.
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