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10th Jun '17 8:39:15 AM Gaby007
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* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12506800/3/The-Unrelenting-Frozen-Seas-The-Trials The Unrelenting Frozen Seas: The Trials]]'' uses this as backstory for [[ChildByRape Jackson Overland]]: his godly mother Khione took a fancy to the demigod Jamie Overland, so she kept him frozen in her palace, awakening him for one hour at times to have her way with him. The guy was left broken and traumatized, which contributed to his suicide after she let him go. Even the other gods are repulsed by what Khione did, more particularly Apollo - as Jamie was his son - but Khione was never punished for it.
2nd Jun '17 11:13:03 PM Nakuyabi
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* The story of Jesus' birth from Literature/TheFourGospels is sometimes accused of being this, but ultimately averts this by Mary agreeing to it. The Book of Luke talks about a scene where an angel ([[ArchangelGabriel St. Gabriel the Archangel]]) tells Mary she is going to conceive and bear a son, and Mary is happy about this, saying, "Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord. May it be done to me according to your word."[[note]]Although considering the possibility that Mary (according to some interpretations) might have been anywhere between 12 to 14 at the time of conception, whether or not she was capable of consenting is still somewhat dubious [[ValuesDissonance at least by modern standards]]. Remember, back in BibleTimes, there ''was'' no concept of adolescence [[SocietyMarchesOn as we understand it today]]; you were either a child or an adult, and the delineation was made when a girl had her first period or a boy had his first ejaculation. Even so, God did not have sex with Mary, [[MysticalPregnancy he just placed Jesus in her womb]], which was to make a point of His divinity that a virgin give birth. (This was before sperm donation.) Still, compare His waiting for her permission before actually making her pregnant with her society's expectation that she was to be little more than [[BabyFactory a passive vessel for childbearing]] whether that's what ''she'' wanted or not, and it's downright FairForItsDay. [[/note]]

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* The story of Jesus' birth from Literature/TheFourGospels is sometimes accused of being this, but ultimately averts this by Mary agreeing to it. The Book of Luke talks about a scene where an angel ([[ArchangelGabriel St. Gabriel the Archangel]]) tells Mary she is going to conceive and bear a son, and Mary is happy about this, saying, "Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord. May it be done to me according to your word."[[note]]Although considering the possibility that Mary (according to some interpretations) might have been anywhere between 12 to 14 was likely fairly young at the time of conception, whether or not she was capable of consenting is still somewhat dubious [[ValuesDissonance at least by modern standards]]. and hence would likely not be legally allowed to decide such things for herself in our time]], there was no such legal age restriction on the books in her time. Remember, back in BibleTimes, there ''was'' no concept of adolescence [[SocietyMarchesOn "adolescence" as we understand have it today]]; you were either a child or an adult, and the delineation was mostly made along lines of ''physical'' maturity (e.g. when a girl had her first period or a boy had his first ejaculation. Even so, wet dream). Then too, God did is not indicated to have sex had ''sex'' with Mary, Mary in any physical sense of the word, [[MysticalPregnancy he just miraculously placed Jesus in her womb]], womb to grow]], which was to make a point of His divinity that it could make a virgin give birth. (This was also back before sperm donation.donation became a commonly known practice.) Still, Moreover, compare His waiting for her permission acceptance (explicitly stated in Luke 1:38) before actually making her pregnant with her society's expectation that she was to be little more than [[BabyFactory a passive vessel for childbearing]] childbearing to her husband]] whether that's that was what ''she'' wanted or not, and it's downright FairForItsDay. FairForItsDay.[[/note]]
29th May '17 5:54:33 PM karstovich2
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* [[RapeByProxy A very indirect example]]: when King Minos of Crete refused to sacrifice a white bull for Poseidon, Poseidon punishes him by making Minos' wife Pasiphae fall in love with the bull. She had a wooden cow made and climbed inside so the bull would have sex with her. She then later gave birth to a [[HalfHumanHybrid half human/half bull creature]] that became the Minotaur.

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* [[RapeByProxy A very indirect example]]: when King Minos of Crete (yes, the one, mentioned above, born to Europa after her rape/seduction by Zeus in the form of a bull) refused to sacrifice a prize white bull for Poseidon, Poseidon (bulls were a theme on Crete, it seems), Poseidon punishes him by making Minos' wife Pasiphae fall in love with the bull. She had a wooden cow made and climbed inside so the bull would have sex with her. She then later gave birth to a [[HalfHumanHybrid half human/half bull creature]] that became the Minotaur.
29th May '17 4:21:35 PM karstovich2
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* Callisto, daughter of a king named Lycaon, was a virgin follower of Artemis, so in order to seduce her, Zeus [[ShapeShiftersDoItForAChange took the guise of Artemis]]. Somehow she got pregnant from this, producing the hunter Arcas. Depending on the version of the story you hear, one of the goddesses Zeus pissed off (some say Hera, for his cheating, and others Artemis, for tricking her acolyte) turned her into a bear either immediately after Zeus was found out (in which case Arcas was born while his mother was a bear) or after Lycaon lured Arcas to some kind of festival. In either case, Lycaon ends up turned into the first werewolf, Arcas inherits his grandfather's kingdom (renamed Arcadia for his trouble), and runs into his transformed mother while out hunting. Zeus then transforms him into a bear to keep him from killing his mom, and then throws both Arcas and Callisto into the sky by the tail, stretching the tails and turning the now-ursine mother and son into constellations. [[JustSoStory This is why Ursa Major and Ursa Minor look like bears with unusually long tails]].

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* Callisto, daughter of a king named Lycaon, was a virgin follower of Artemis, so in order to seduce her, Zeus [[ShapeShiftersDoItForAChange took the guise of Artemis]]. Somehow she got pregnant from this, producing the hunter Arcas. Depending on the version of the story you hear, one of the goddesses Zeus pissed off (some say Hera, for his cheating, and others Artemis, for tricking her acolyte) turned her Callisto into a bear either immediately after Zeus was found out (in which case Arcas was born while his mother was a bear) or after Lycaon lured the grown Arcas to some kind of festival. In either case, Lycaon ends up turned into the first werewolf, Arcas inherits his grandfather's kingdom (renamed Arcadia for his trouble), and runs into his transformed mother while out hunting. Zeus then transforms him into a bear to keep him from killing his mom, and then throws both Arcas and Callisto into the sky by the tail, stretching the tails and turning the now-ursine mother and son into constellations. [[JustSoStory This is why Ursa Major and Ursa Minor look like bears with unusually long tails]].
8th May '17 9:23:03 AM Akaihiryuu
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* For [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane a certain definition of "divine"]], [[spoiler: Ben Sisko's]] backstory on ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' counts. His mother was possessed or influenced somehow-- the exact mechanics aren't elaborated upon-- by the Prophets / wormhole aliens (SufficientlyAdvancedAliens and/or gods depending on who you ask) to marry his father. Once she'd given birth to their Chosen One, they freed her from their influence, and she promptly left his father. The father, who loved her deeply, was heartbroken and never knew that there had been anything problematic or unnatural about their relationship. It's probable that, being StarfishAliens who do not experience linear time as we do and appear puzzled about many things about the human experience that we take for granted, [[ValuesDissonance it never occurred to the Prophets / wormhole aliens that there was anything morally wrong with doing this]]. The depth of the moral {{squick}} involved is never fully explored by the characters, either, and nobody ever gives them a WhatTheHellHero about it, making it a case of FridgeHorror for the audience.

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* For [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane a certain definition of "divine"]], [[spoiler: Ben Sisko's]] backstory on ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' counts. His mother was possessed or influenced somehow-- the exact mechanics aren't elaborated upon-- by the Prophets / wormhole aliens (SufficientlyAdvancedAliens and/or gods depending on who you ask) to marry his father. Once she'd given birth to their Chosen One, they freed her from their influence, and she promptly left his father. The father, who loved her deeply, was heartbroken and never knew that there had been anything problematic or unnatural about their relationship. It's probable that, being StarfishAliens who do not experience linear time as we do and appear puzzled about many things about the human experience that we take for granted, [[ValuesDissonance it never occurred to the Prophets / wormhole aliens aliens]] [[BlueAndOrangeMorality that there was anything morally wrong with doing this]]. The depth of the moral {{squick}} involved is never fully explored by the characters, either, and nobody ever gives them a WhatTheHellHero about it, making it a case of FridgeHorror for the audience.
15th Apr '17 3:30:32 PM nombretomado
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* ''SomethingPositive'' [[http://somethingpositive.net/sp10212011.shtml alludes to this]]:

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* ''SomethingPositive'' ''Webcomic/SomethingPositive'' [[http://somethingpositive.net/sp10212011.shtml alludes to this]]:
1st Apr '17 6:26:29 PM DustSnitch
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* The story of Jesus' birth in ''Literature/TheBible'' is sometimes accused of being this, but ultimately averts this by Mary agreeing to it. The Book of Luke talks about a scene where an angel ([[ArchangelGabriel St. Gabriel the Archangel]]) tells Mary she is going to conceive and bear a son, and Mary is happy about this, saying, "Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord. May it be done to me according to your word."[[note]]Although considering the possibility that Mary (according to some interpretations) might have been anywhere between 12 to 14 at the time of conception, whether or not she was capable of consenting is still somewhat dubious [[ValuesDissonance at least by modern standards]]. Remember, back in BibleTimes, there ''was'' no concept of adolescence [[SocietyMarchesOn as we understand it today]]; you were either a child or an adult, and the delineation was made when a girl had her first period or a boy had his first ejaculation. Even so, God did not have sex with Mary, [[MysticalPregnancy he just placed Jesus in her womb]], which was to make a point of His divinity that a virgin give birth. (This was before sperm donation.) Still, compare His waiting for her permission before actually making her pregnant with her society's expectation that she was to be little more than [[BabyFactory a passive vessel for childbearing]] whether that's what ''she'' wanted or not, and it's downright FairForItsDay. [[/note]] There was also an interesting take on the whole question by some 19th century poets and writers - according to them, it was ''Gabriel'' himself who impregnated Mary in quite a usual way (stories vary as to whether he actually was an angel, some saying that he was just an ordinary guy who deliberately deluded the naive girl) - which she then passed as an immaculate conception.

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* The story of Jesus' birth in ''Literature/TheBible'' from Literature/TheFourGospels is sometimes accused of being this, but ultimately averts this by Mary agreeing to it. The Book of Luke talks about a scene where an angel ([[ArchangelGabriel St. Gabriel the Archangel]]) tells Mary she is going to conceive and bear a son, and Mary is happy about this, saying, "Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord. May it be done to me according to your word."[[note]]Although considering the possibility that Mary (according to some interpretations) might have been anywhere between 12 to 14 at the time of conception, whether or not she was capable of consenting is still somewhat dubious [[ValuesDissonance at least by modern standards]]. Remember, back in BibleTimes, there ''was'' no concept of adolescence [[SocietyMarchesOn as we understand it today]]; you were either a child or an adult, and the delineation was made when a girl had her first period or a boy had his first ejaculation. Even so, God did not have sex with Mary, [[MysticalPregnancy he just placed Jesus in her womb]], which was to make a point of His divinity that a virgin give birth. (This was before sperm donation.) Still, compare His waiting for her permission before actually making her pregnant with her society's expectation that she was to be little more than [[BabyFactory a passive vessel for childbearing]] whether that's what ''she'' wanted or not, and it's downright FairForItsDay. [[/note]] There was also an interesting take on the whole question by some 19th century poets and writers - according to them, it was ''Gabriel'' himself who impregnated Mary in quite a usual way (stories vary as to whether he actually was an angel, some saying that he was just an ordinary guy who deliberately deluded the naive girl) - which she then passed as an immaculate conception. [[/note]]
6th Feb '17 7:35:10 AM benda
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* The story of Jesus' birth in ''Literature/TheBible'' is sometimes accused of being this, but ultimately averts this by Mary agreeing to it. The Book of Luke talks about a scene where an angel ([[ArchangelGabriel St. Gabriel the Archangel]]) tells Mary she is going to conceive and bear a son, and Mary is happy about this, saying, "Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord. May it be done to me according to your word."[[note]]Although considering the possibility that Mary (according to some interpretations) might have been anywhere between 12 to 14 at the time of conception, whether or not she was capable of consenting is still somewhat dubious [[ValuesDissonance at least by modern standards]]. Remember, back in BibleTimes, there ''was'' no concept of adolescence [[SocietyMarchesOn as we understand it today]]; you were either a child or an adult, and the delineation was made when a girl had her first period or a boy had his first ejaculation. Even so, God did not have sex with Mary, [[MysticalPregnancy he just placed Jesus in her womb]], which was to make a point of His divinity that a virgin give birth. (This was before sperm donation.) Still, compare His waiting for her permission before actually making her pregnant with her society's expectation that she was to be little more than [[BabyFactory a passive vessel for childbearing]] whether that's what ''she'' wanted or not, and it's downright FairForItsDay. [[/note]]

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* The story of Jesus' birth in ''Literature/TheBible'' is sometimes accused of being this, but ultimately averts this by Mary agreeing to it. The Book of Luke talks about a scene where an angel ([[ArchangelGabriel St. Gabriel the Archangel]]) tells Mary she is going to conceive and bear a son, and Mary is happy about this, saying, "Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord. May it be done to me according to your word."[[note]]Although considering the possibility that Mary (according to some interpretations) might have been anywhere between 12 to 14 at the time of conception, whether or not she was capable of consenting is still somewhat dubious [[ValuesDissonance at least by modern standards]]. Remember, back in BibleTimes, there ''was'' no concept of adolescence [[SocietyMarchesOn as we understand it today]]; you were either a child or an adult, and the delineation was made when a girl had her first period or a boy had his first ejaculation. Even so, God did not have sex with Mary, [[MysticalPregnancy he just placed Jesus in her womb]], which was to make a point of His divinity that a virgin give birth. (This was before sperm donation.) Still, compare His waiting for her permission before actually making her pregnant with her society's expectation that she was to be little more than [[BabyFactory a passive vessel for childbearing]] whether that's what ''she'' wanted or not, and it's downright FairForItsDay. [[/note]][[/note]] There was also an interesting take on the whole question by some 19th century poets and writers - according to them, it was ''Gabriel'' himself who impregnated Mary in quite a usual way (stories vary as to whether he actually was an angel, some saying that he was just an ordinary guy who deliberately deluded the naive girl) - which she then passed as an immaculate conception.
20th Jan '17 1:30:23 AM Monsund
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* According to some sources (Creator/{{Ovid}}, in particular), Poseidon raped a virgin priestess of Athena named Medusa within the goddess' own temple. Medusa was [[DisproportionateRetribution transformed into a Gorgon by Athena]] as punishment. Poseidon wasn't punished at all. Presumably a case of MightMakesRight, seeing as Poseidon was second only to Zeus in power. Alternatively being made a Gorgon was for her protection rather than punishment, as Gorgon imagery was often used to symbolize protection on breastplates, shields and coins.

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* According to some sources (Creator/{{Ovid}}, in particular), Poseidon raped a virgin priestess of Athena named Medusa within the goddess' own temple. Medusa was [[DisproportionateRetribution transformed into a Gorgon by Athena]] as punishment. Poseidon wasn't punished at all. Presumably a case of MightMakesRight, seeing as Poseidon was second only to Zeus in power. Alternatively being made a Gorgon was for her protection rather than punishment, as Gorgon imagery was often used to symbolize protection on breastplates, shields and coins.
16th Nov '16 5:31:31 PM nombretomado
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''[[AutoTuneTheNews Well, obviously we have a rapist on]] [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Mount Olympus]]. [[MemeticMutation He's climbin' in yo' windows, he's snatchin' yo' people up, tryin' to rape 'em.]] [[DepravedBisexual So y'all need to hide ya' kids, hide ya' wife, and hide ya' husband, 'cause they rapin' e'rybody out here.]]''

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''[[AutoTuneTheNews ''[[WebVideo/AutoTuneTheNews Well, obviously we have a rapist on]] [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Mount Olympus]]. [[MemeticMutation He's climbin' in yo' windows, he's snatchin' yo' people up, tryin' to rape 'em.]] [[DepravedBisexual So y'all need to hide ya' kids, hide ya' wife, and hide ya' husband, 'cause they rapin' e'rybody out here.]]''
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