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6th Oct '17 8:56:02 AM N8han11
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21st Aug '17 11:27:38 AM SeptimusHeap
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* Various installments of the StarWarsExpandedUniverse have tried to replace the New Republic's fighters with something more modern as the timeline progresses, most notably the E-Wing, which was a direct successor to the "venerable" X-Wing. The Empire has also tried with a notable lack of success to get rid of the [[MookMobile TIE Fighter]] and [[EliteMook TIE Interceptor]], with both new TIE designs (like the [[BossInMooksClothing Defender]]) and outside help (like the Preybirds they use in the HandOfThrawn duology) failing to gain real traction. In both cases, it's mostly real-life attachment to the iconic movie fighters that keeps them around.

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* Various installments of the StarWarsExpandedUniverse Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse have tried to replace the New Republic's fighters with something more modern as the timeline progresses, most notably the E-Wing, which was a direct successor to the "venerable" X-Wing. The Empire has also tried with a notable lack of success to get rid of the [[MookMobile TIE Fighter]] and [[EliteMook TIE Interceptor]], with both new TIE designs (like the [[BossInMooksClothing Defender]]) and outside help (like the Preybirds they use in the HandOfThrawn Literature/HandOfThrawn duology) failing to gain real traction. In both cases, it's mostly real-life attachment to the iconic movie fighters that keeps them around.
26th Dec '15 12:14:39 PM Jake
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** And in-universe, the symbolism factor applies as well. It's occasionally touched on that it's actually very hard to replace fighter designs for craft simply due to the scale of the empires involved; expensive models like the TIE Defender become more expensive still when you need to get shipments of spare parts to them from anywhere in the Empire's reach to keep their pilots flying.

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** And in-universe, the symbolism factor applies as well. It's occasionally touched on that it's actually very hard to replace fighter designs for craft simply due to the scale of the empires involved; expensive models like the TIE Defender become more expensive still when you need to get shipments of spare parts to them from anywhere in the Empire's reach to keep their pilots flying. The New Republic has it ''slightly'' easier up until the Literature/NewJediOrder era, but shiny new military hardware is less of a priority than rebuilding the infrastructure and economy that's been thoroughly wrecked by a couple of generations of civil war.
14th Sep '15 9:26:24 PM kome360
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* AldnoahZero: Inaho doesn't have a beef against the season 2 standard models. It's just that he already mastered the orange kataphrakt and needs to focus on strategy rather than firepower.
12th Sep '15 3:48:13 AM Adept
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** Also in ''{{Patlabor}}'', 2nd movie, the AV-2 Valiant (Type 2) was the upgrade for Team 2, replacing the Type 98 Ingram, where the Ingrams were already transported back to the Factory as testing machines, the Type-2s where destroyed very early in the movie, and team 2 had to sneak into the factory to get back the 3 Ingrams.

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** Also in ''{{Patlabor}}'', ''Patlabor'', 2nd movie, the AV-2 Valiant (Type 2) was the upgrade for Team 2, replacing the Type 98 Ingram, where the Ingrams were already transported back to the Factory as testing machines, the Type-2s where destroyed very early in the movie, and team 2 had to sneak into the factory to get back the 3 Ingrams.
3rd Sep '15 2:31:24 AM WM-R
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** A good aversion might be the Gouf, made famous by Ranba Ral. In its initial appearance it was treated as a major threat, to the point Amuro had nightmares about it. After its destruction, the White Base and Amuro go back to battling run-of-the-mill Zakus, but as the series goes on they run into elite pilots equipped with Goufs (the Zeon brass apparently impressed enough with its performance to continue production).
29th Jun '15 12:02:40 PM nombretomado
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* In ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Battlestar Galactica]]'', the Battlestar ''Pegasus'' was shiny, new, twice as large as ''Galactica'' with half the crew, Viper construction facilities, and some monstrously big guns. [[RammingAlwaysWorks Taken from us far too soon.]]

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* In ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Battlestar Galactica]]'', ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}}'', the Battlestar ''Pegasus'' was shiny, new, twice as large as ''Galactica'' with half the crew, Viper construction facilities, and some monstrously big guns. [[RammingAlwaysWorks Taken from us far too soon.]]
30th Jan '15 1:00:32 AM Gamecubist
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* In ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined BattlestarGalactica]]'', the Battlestar ''Pegasus'' was shiny, new, twice as large as ''Galactica'' with half the crew, Viper construction facilities, and some monstrously big guns. [[RammingAlwaysWorks Taken from us far too soon.]]

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* In ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined BattlestarGalactica]]'', Battlestar Galactica]]'', the Battlestar ''Pegasus'' was shiny, new, twice as large as ''Galactica'' with half the crew, Viper construction facilities, and some monstrously big guns. [[RammingAlwaysWorks Taken from us far too soon.]]



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30th Dec '14 8:44:00 PM nombretomado
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*** By the time ''Generations'' was made, the Excelsior-class had become depicted as the venerable workhorse of Starfleet in the 24th century, due to [[PropRecycling numerous appearances of the ship model]] throughout ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration TNG]]'' and ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine DS9]]''. The Enterprise-B modifications would even be reused on ''[=DS9=]'' for the Lakota (which managed to hold its own against the Defiant, if even for a short while). So even if it didn't become the new CoolShip of the franchise, Starfleet (and more importantly, [[IndustrialLightAndMagic the guys who went to the trouble of making the big expensive model]] [[RealLifeWritesThePlot only to get hit with]] ExecutiveMeddling) really got major mileage out of the design.

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*** By the time ''Generations'' was made, the Excelsior-class had become depicted as the venerable workhorse of Starfleet in the 24th century, due to [[PropRecycling numerous appearances of the ship model]] throughout ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration TNG]]'' and ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine DS9]]''. The Enterprise-B modifications would even be reused on ''[=DS9=]'' for the Lakota (which managed to hold its own against the Defiant, if even for a short while). So even if it didn't become the new CoolShip of the franchise, Starfleet (and more importantly, [[IndustrialLightAndMagic [[Creator/IndustrialLightAndMagic the guys who went to the trouble of making the big expensive model]] [[RealLifeWritesThePlot only to get hit with]] ExecutiveMeddling) really got major mileage out of the design.
28th Mar '14 3:34:09 PM margdean56
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* In a storyline of ''Comicbook/DoomPatrol'' ("Soul of a New Machine"), Robotman gets his brain placed into a much more advanced body that enables him to feel and has advanced. Sadly the body is sufficiently intelligent to decide that it doesn't like being controlled and sets itself to self-destruct if a brain gets put in. Then a villainouse {{brain in a jar}} hijacks it and, after kissing an intelligent gorilla, it explodes.

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* In a storyline of ''Comicbook/DoomPatrol'' ("Soul of a New Machine"), Robotman gets his brain placed into a much more advanced body that enables him to feel and has advanced. Sadly the body is sufficiently intelligent to decide that it doesn't like being controlled and sets itself to self-destruct if a brain gets put in. Then a villainouse villainous {{brain in a jar}} hijacks it and, after kissing an intelligent gorilla, it explodes.
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