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20th Jan '18 12:46:43 AM CharlesPhipps
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* There have been numerous attempts to disprove several Christian relics' more bizarre properties like incorruptibility, the Shroud of Turin, the Blood of Saint Jannarius, the Eucharist of Lanciano, and the waters of Lourdes. Sometimes, these tests prove fruitful while other times they simply raise more questions. In a surprising reversal of how it usually works, there have actually been cases of fraud among skeptics like the attempt to state there was a image of an Aztec goddess under the Our Lady of Guadalupe shroud.

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* There have been numerous attempts to disprove several Christian relics' more bizarre properties like incorruptibility, the Shroud of Turin, the Blood of Saint Jannarius, the Eucharist of Lanciano, and the waters of Lourdes. Sometimes, these tests prove fruitful while other times they simply raise more questions. In a surprising reversal of how it usually works, there have actually been cases of fraud among skeptics like the attempt by Garza-Valdes to state there was a image of an Aztec goddess painted under the Our Lady of Guadalupe shroud.
20th Jan '18 12:43:41 AM CharlesPhipps
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* There have been numerous attempts to disprove several Christian relics' more bizarre properties like incorruptibility, the Shroud of Turin, the Blood of Saint Jannarius, the Eucharist of Lanciano, and the waters of Lourdes. Sometimes, these tests prove fruitful while other times they simply raise more questions. In a surprising reversal of how it usually works, there have actually been cases of fraud among skeptics like the attempt to state there was a image of an Aztec goddess under the Our Lady of Guadalupe shroud.
19th Jan '18 9:53:04 AM CharlesPhipps
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* Creator/RogerPenrose, no stranger to DoingInTheWIzard himself, pointed out consciousness may actually be irreducible as part of the universe (believing quantum physics may play a role in the event) so Artificial Intelligence may actually be impossible as a function of programming. This has not made him popular in some circles.
* Similarly, David Chalmer has made his career as a philosopher pointing out the "Hard Problem of Consciousness" which many scientists have challenged (but quite a few more have agreed with). Basically, being we can tell how a brain works but there's no real explanation how it gives rise to a person having an subjective identity.
* The Catholic Church maintains a canonization board which includes a rotating group of atheist doctors invited to examine evidence of miracles in order to make sure any action they investigate for the purposes of declaring a new saint (they need two "proven" miracles) is actually inexplicable by science. Some of the miracles cited include a woman being healed of Parkinson's disease for John Paul II's canonization and the sudden healing of a club foot in India.

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* Creator/RogerPenrose, no stranger to DoingInTheWIzard DoingInTheWizard himself, pointed out consciousness may actually be irreducible as part of the universe (believing quantum physics may play a role in the event) so Artificial Intelligence may actually be impossible as a function of programming. This has not made him popular in some circles.
* Similarly, David Chalmer Chalmers has made his career as a philosopher pointing out the "Hard Problem of Consciousness" which many scientists have challenged (but quite a few more have agreed with). Basically, being we can tell how a brain works but there's no real explanation how it gives rise to a person having an subjective identity.
* The Catholic Church maintains a canonization board which includes a rotating group of atheist doctors invited to examine evidence of miracles in order to make sure any action they investigate for the purposes of declaring a new saint (they need two "proven" miracles) is actually inexplicable by science. Some of the miracles cited include a woman being healed of Parkinson's disease for John Paul II's canonization and the sudden healing of a club foot in India.India for the beatification of Thevarparampil Kunjachan.
19th Jan '18 9:50:45 AM CharlesPhipps
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* Obviously, science is a study of the real world and its laws but there have been many times the discovery of things have ended up being a lot weirder than the mundane explanation or remain inexplicable.
* The entirety of quantum physics has been a thorn in the side of individuals who want reality to follow a determinalist path and has long since proven non-intuitive paths like reality being a function of probability, reality being made of waves versus particles, and not really working within time.
* Creator/RogerPenrose, no stranger to DoingInTheWIzard himself, pointed out consciousness may actually be irreducible as part of the universe (believing quantum physics may play a role in the event) so Artificial Intelligence may actually be impossible as a function of programming. This has not made him popular in some circles.
* Similarly, David Chalmer has made his career as a philosopher pointing out the "Hard Problem of Consciousness" which many scientists have challenged (but quite a few more have agreed with). Basically, being we can tell how a brain works but there's no real explanation how it gives rise to a person having an subjective identity.
* The Catholic Church maintains a canonization board which includes a rotating group of atheist doctors invited to examine evidence of miracles in order to make sure any action they investigate for the purposes of declaring a new saint (they need two "proven" miracles) is actually inexplicable by science. Some of the miracles cited include a woman being healed of Parkinson's disease for John Paul II's canonization and the sudden healing of a club foot in India.
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1st Jan '18 5:17:58 PM ChaoticNovelist
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*At the beginning of ''Disney/{{Moana}}'', Tala's stories are dismissed as nonsense and problems like the decrease in the fish population of the lagoon and the disease in the coconut groves are assumed to have scientific solutions (clear the diseased trees for a new grove in a different location and rotating fishing grounds, respectively). These don't pan out and Moana has to return a magical artifact to a goddess so this goddess can restore life and prosperity to the islands.



* ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'': Tony suggests that the Hulk (A.K.A "The Other Guy") is not triggered by Bruce's heart rate ''per se'', but that the Hulk deliberately manifests to protect Bruce in dangerous situations. Thus, it is an ally to be embraced instead of a monster to be caged. The events of the movie support this view. [[spoiler: Bruce tells TheTeam that Hulk interrupted his suicide attempt and later it emerges in the final battle because Bruce told it to.]]

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* ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'': Tony suggests that the Hulk (A.K.A "The Other Guy") is not triggered by Bruce's heart rate ''per se'', but that the Hulk deliberately manifests to protect Bruce in dangerous (i.e. heart-pounding) situations. Thus, it is an ally to be embraced instead of a monster to be caged. The events of the movie support this view. [[spoiler: Bruce tells TheTeam that Hulk interrupted his suicide attempt and later it emerges in the final battle because Bruce told it to.]]



* ''Literature/TrappedOnDraconica'': Early on Alister's advisors say they 'stopped believing in magic years ago' and insist that the dragokin powers are not magic despite being bestowed on the princesses by a dragon god. Shortly afterward, Gothon uses teleportation magic to launch a sneak attack. [[spoiler: Its purpose is to capture Ben and steal his definitely magical powers to travel between worlds.]]

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* ''Literature/TrappedOnDraconica'': Early on on, Alister's advisors say they 'stopped believing in magic years ago' and insist that the dragokin powers are not magic despite being bestowed on the princesses by a dragon god. Shortly afterward, Gothon uses teleportation magic to launch a sneak attack. [[spoiler: Its purpose is to capture Ben and steal his definitely magical powers to travel between worlds.]]



* ''WebComic/WoodenRose'': [[spoiler: Eric originally attributed his wife's pregnacy to infidliety but when he saw that the child was a tree spirit and came to term in a week instead of nine months he had no choice but to accept that the supernatural was involved]].

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* ''WebComic/WoodenRose'': [[spoiler: Eric originally attributed his wife's pregnacy to infidliety infidility but when he saw that the child was a tree spirit and came to term in a week instead of nine months he had no choice but to accept that the supernatural was involved]].
20th Nov '17 9:45:59 AM Sharlee
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* In the ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'' game's alt-history, scientists in the earliest days of the Awakening spent a lot of time arguing about weird phenomena like [=UGE=] and the discovery of the century ferret, devising non-magical hypotheses for what the hell was going on. It took the emergence of Great Dragons, and Dunkelzahn's appearances on live television, for this trope to nip their rationales in the bud.

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* In the ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'' game's alt-history, scientists in the earliest days of the Awakening spent a lot of time arguing about weird phenomena phenomena, like [=UGE=] spike babies and the discovery of the century ferret, and devising non-magical hypotheses for what the hell was going on. It took the emergence of Great Dragons, and Dunkelzahn's appearances on live television, for this trope to nip their rationales in the bud.
20th Nov '17 9:44:54 AM Sharlee
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* In the ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'' game's alt-history, scientists in the earliest days of the Awakening spent a lot of time arguing about weird phenomena like [=UGE=] and the discovery of the century ferret, devising non-magical hypotheses for the weirdness that was going on. It took the emergence of Great Dragons, and Dunkelzahn's appearances on live television, for this trope to nip their rationales in the bud.

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* In the ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'' game's alt-history, scientists in the earliest days of the Awakening spent a lot of time arguing about weird phenomena like [=UGE=] and the discovery of the century ferret, devising non-magical hypotheses for what the weirdness that hell was going on. It took the emergence of Great Dragons, and Dunkelzahn's appearances on live television, for this trope to nip their rationales in the bud.
20th Nov '17 9:44:18 AM Sharlee
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* In the ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'' game's alt-history, scientists in the earliest days of the Awakening spent a lot of time arguing about weird phenomena like [=UGE=] and the discovery of the century ferret. It took the appearance of Great Dragons to let this trope nip their rationales in the bud.

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* In the ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'' game's alt-history, scientists in the earliest days of the Awakening spent a lot of time arguing about weird phenomena like [=UGE=] and the discovery of the century ferret. ferret, devising non-magical hypotheses for the weirdness that was going on. It took the appearance emergence of Great Dragons to let Dragons, and Dunkelzahn's appearances on live television, for this trope to nip their rationales in the bud.
20th Nov '17 9:41:36 AM Sharlee
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* In the ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'' game's alt-history, scientists in the earliest days of the Awakening spent a lot of time arguing about weird phenomena like [=UGE=] and the discovery of the century ferret. It took the appearance of Great Dragons to let this trope nip their rationales in the bud.
29th Oct '17 12:46:09 PM LondonKdS
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* The final scenes of FleshEatingZombie movie ''Film/{{REC}}'' reveal that the virus responsible for the {{Technically Living Zombie}}s is actually a form of transmissible DemonicPossession.
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