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5th Nov '17 9:07:36 AM k5972
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* Tenko Chabashira, the Ultimate Aikido Master, from ''VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3'' refers to all men and boys as "male degenerates" and throw any mle across the room if they touch or compliment her, though she would blush if given the same compliment by a girl.

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* Tenko Chabashira, the Ultimate Aikido Master, from ''VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3'' refers to all men and boys as "male degenerates" and will throw any mle male across the room if they touch or compliment her, though she would blush if given the same compliment by a girl.
12th Sep '17 8:39:04 AM wingedcatgirl
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Other times it's just used to explain why a character [[ImprobablyFemaleCast isn't ever seen with a man]]. It's frequent that eventually one character comments on this and takes it as a [[SchoolgirlLesbians sign of sexual orientation]].

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Other times it's just used to explain why a character [[ImprobablyFemaleCast isn't ever seen with a man]]. It's frequent that eventually one character comments on this and takes it as a [[SchoolgirlLesbians sign of sexual orientation]].
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11th Sep '17 8:45:09 AM BeerBaron
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** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'''s ''Shivering Isles'' expansion reveals this to be the case for Aureals (aka Golden Saints), a form of [[OurDemonsAreDifferent lesser Daedra]] in service to [[MadGod Sheogorath]]. The male Aureal are looked down upon ([[TinyGuyHugeGirl literally]] and figuratively) by the females. Arguably justified given the fact that [[MoreDeadlyThanTheMale male Aureals are both physically and statistically inferior]] to their female counterparts. This trope extends to males of the mortal races, though with far less justification.

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** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'''s ''Shivering Isles'' expansion reveals this to be the case for Aureals (aka Golden Saints), a form Saints) and Mazken (aka Dark Seducers), two forms of [[OurDemonsAreDifferent lesser Daedra]] in service to [[MadGod Sheogorath]]. The male Aureal Aureal/Mazken are looked down upon ([[TinyGuyHugeGirl literally]] and figuratively) by the females. Arguably justified given the fact that [[MoreDeadlyThanTheMale male Aureals Aureals/Mazken are both physically and statistically inferior]] to their female counterparts. This trope extends to males of the mortal races, though with far less justification.
9th Sep '17 8:10:35 PM Clanger00
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Often, the author portrays the woman in question sympathetically, and vilifies whatever man drove her to hate the rest of his gender. The Spear Counterpart likewise is most commonly seen in romance fiction, where the male hero has had some bad past experience with women (either his mother or a faithless lover) and blames the entire gender... until the heroine comes along to change his worldview.

Whether it's the female "Does Not Like Men" or the rarer male "Does Not Like Women" variant of this trope, generally the character in question is treated sympathetically [[TragicBigot as long as it comes form a bad experience]], [[FreudianExcuse usually being actively hurt by a man or woman]]. If the reason they don't like a gender is because they were brought up in a society of institutionalized sexism, expect this character to be villified in some way, or at the very least treated as unsympathetic, usually resulting in a HeelFaceTurn where they get AnAesop in "Sexism Is Wrong" (or something along those lines). If they are otherwise a good person who just has the "[[ValuesDissonance wrong views]]", you have a [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero Licensed Sexist]], and if the character actively ''hates'' the other side, welcome to your StrawMisogynist or StrawFeminist. If they don't take a hint and never learn about equality, expect this person to be a [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain villain]] for the long term.

Other times it's just used to explain why a character [[ImprobablyFemaleCast isn't ever seen with a man]] or woman. It's frequent that eventually one character comments on this and takes it as a [[SchoolgirlLesbians sign of sexual orientation]].

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Often, the author portrays the woman in question sympathetically, [[TragicBigot as long as it comes form a bad experience]], and vilifies whatever man drove her to hate the rest of his gender. The Spear Counterpart likewise is most commonly seen in romance fiction, where the male hero has had some bad past experience with women (either his mother or a faithless lover) and blames the entire gender... until the heroine comes along to change his worldview.

Whether it's the female "Does Not Like Men" or the rarer male "Does Not Like Women" variant of this trope, generally the character in question is treated sympathetically [[TragicBigot as long as it comes form a bad experience]], [[FreudianExcuse usually being actively hurt by a man or woman]].
If the reason they don't like a gender men is because they were brought up in a society of institutionalized sexism, expect this character to be villified in some way, or at the very least treated as unsympathetic, usually resulting in a HeelFaceTurn where they get AnAesop in "Sexism Is Wrong" (or something along those lines). If they are otherwise a good person who just has the "[[ValuesDissonance wrong views]]", you have a [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero Licensed Sexist]], and if the character actively ''hates'' the other side, men, welcome to your StrawMisogynist or StrawFeminist. If they don't take a hint and never learn about equality, expect this person to be a [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain villain]] for the long term.

Other times it's just used to explain why a character [[ImprobablyFemaleCast isn't ever seen with a man]] or woman.man]]. It's frequent that eventually one character comments on this and takes it as a [[SchoolgirlLesbians sign of sexual orientation]].
6th Sep '17 8:32:45 AM BeerBaron
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* In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'', [[EvilSorcerer Telvanni Councilor]] Mistress Dratha. Exactly ''why'' she hates men is never explained, but it is her defining trait nonetheless. Her town of Tel Mora is staffed entirely by female retainers and merchants and completing the main quest as a male Nerevarine requires you to either beg at her feet for her support or kill her. (She'll support a female Nerevarine with no questions asked and even gives her several powerful summoning scrolls.)

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In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'', ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', [[EvilSorcerer Telvanni Councilor]] Mistress Dratha. Exactly ''why'' she hates men is never explained, but it is her defining trait nonetheless. Her town of Tel Mora is staffed entirely by female retainers and merchants and completing the main quest as a male Nerevarine [[PlayerCharacter Nerevarine]] requires you to either beg at her feet for her support or kill her. (She'll support a female Nerevarine with no questions asked and even gives her several powerful summoning scrolls.) )
** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'''s ''Shivering Isles'' expansion reveals this to be the case for Aureals (aka Golden Saints), a form of [[OurDemonsAreDifferent lesser Daedra]] in service to [[MadGod Sheogorath]]. The male Aureal are looked down upon ([[TinyGuyHugeGirl literally]] and figuratively) by the females. Arguably justified given the fact that [[MoreDeadlyThanTheMale male Aureals are both physically and statistically inferior]] to their female counterparts. This trope extends to males of the mortal races, though with far less justification.
6th Sep '17 12:48:37 AM BackgroundGuy
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* {{Music/Nirvana}} had a complicated relationship with the men in their audience. Being men themselves, they had strong feminist leanings and generally despised really macho dudes, whom they criticized in "Mr. Moustache" and "In Bloom", the latter especially about [[MisaimedFandom people who became fans of theirs without realizing what they were saying]]. This line in "Territorial Pissings" takes that theme even further: "Never met a wise man / If so it's a woman". It mostly came down to things Kurt Cobain had seen macho men do, like bully his gay friend in high school, that understandably disgusted him.

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* {{Music/Nirvana}} had a complicated relationship with the men in their audience. Being men themselves, they had strong feminist leanings and generally despised really macho dudes, whom they criticized in "Mr. Moustache" and "In Bloom", the latter especially about [[MisaimedFandom people who became fans of theirs without realizing what they were saying]]. This line in "Territorial Pissings" takes that theme even further: "Never met a wise man / If so it's a woman". It mostly came down to things Kurt Cobain had seen macho men do, like bully his gay friend in high school, that understandably disgusted him.him; his troubled relationship with his father and his mother's new boyfriend didn't help either.
6th Sep '17 12:44:57 AM BackgroundGuy
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* {{Music/Nirvana}}'s "Territorial Pissings" (written by a man, nevertheless): 'Never met a wise man, if so its a woman.'

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* {{Music/Nirvana}}'s {{Music/Nirvana}} had a complicated relationship with the men in their audience. Being men themselves, they had strong feminist leanings and generally despised really macho dudes, whom they criticized in "Mr. Moustache" and "In Bloom", the latter especially about [[MisaimedFandom people who became fans of theirs without realizing what they were saying]]. This line in "Territorial Pissings" (written by a man, nevertheless): 'Never takes that theme even further: "Never met a wise man, if man / If so its it's a woman.'woman". It mostly came down to things Kurt Cobain had seen macho men do, like bully his gay friend in high school, that understandably disgusted him.
5th Sep '17 9:44:52 AM MsCC93
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Often, the author portrays the woman in question sympathetically, and vilifies whatever man drove her to hate the rest of his gender. The Spear Counterpart likewise is most commonly seen in romance fiction, where the male hero has had some bad past experience with women (either his mother or afaithless lover) and blames the entire gender... until the heroine comes along to change his worldview.

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Often, the author portrays the woman in question sympathetically, and vilifies whatever man drove her to hate the rest of his gender. The Spear Counterpart likewise is most commonly seen in romance fiction, where the male hero has had some bad past experience with women (either his mother or afaithless a faithless lover) and blames the entire gender... until the heroine comes along to change his worldview.
5th Sep '17 9:43:56 AM MsCC93
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Often, the author portrays the woman in question sympathetically, and vilifies whatever man drove her to hate the rest of his gender. The Spear Counterpart likewise is most commonly seen in romance fiction, where the male hero has had some bad past experience with women (either [[MommyIssues his]] {{m|yBelovedSmother}}other or a [[TheFirstCutIsTheDeepest faithless lover]]) and blames the entire gender... until the heroine comes along to change his worldview.

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Often, the author portrays the woman in question sympathetically, and vilifies whatever man drove her to hate the rest of his gender. The Spear Counterpart likewise is most commonly seen in romance fiction, where the male hero has had some bad past experience with women (either [[MommyIssues his]] {{m|yBelovedSmother}}other his mother or a [[TheFirstCutIsTheDeepest faithless lover]]) afaithless lover) and blames the entire gender... until the heroine comes along to change his worldview.
5th Sep '17 7:33:43 AM HighCrate
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Often, the author portrays the [[WomenAreWiser woman in question sympathetically]], and [[{{Jerkass}} vilifies whatever man]] drove her to hate the rest of his gender. The Spear Counterpart likewise is most commonly seen in romance fiction, where the male hero has had some bad past experience with women (either [[MommyIssues his]] {{m|yBelovedSmother}}other or a [[TheFirstCutIsTheDeepest faithless lover]]) and blames the entire gender... until the heroine comes along to change his worldview.

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Often, the author portrays the [[WomenAreWiser woman in question sympathetically]], sympathetically, and [[{{Jerkass}} vilifies whatever man]] man drove her to hate the rest of his gender. The Spear Counterpart likewise is most commonly seen in romance fiction, where the male hero has had some bad past experience with women (either [[MommyIssues his]] {{m|yBelovedSmother}}other or a [[TheFirstCutIsTheDeepest faithless lover]]) and blames the entire gender... until the heroine comes along to change his worldview.
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