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10th May '17 10:11:41 AM Hedgebird
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* A persistent problem for Creator/RosemarySutcliff's ancient Britons – the Celtic tribes can't get over their feuds to defend themselves against the Romans (''Song for a Dark Queen'', ''Eagle's Egg''), the Celts and Roman Britons can't cooperate long enough to hold off the Anglo-Saxons (''[[Literature/TheDolphinRing The Lantern Bearers]]'', ''Literature/SwordAtSunset'', ''The Shining Company''). Not until the 12th century do the Saxons and the Normans manage to unite and make it stick – against the French, naturally.

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* A persistent problem for Creator/RosemarySutcliff's ancient Britons – the Celtic tribes can't get over their feuds to defend themselves against the Romans (''Song for a Dark Queen'', (''Literature/SongForADarkQueen'', ''Eagle's Egg''), the Celts and Roman Britons can't cooperate long enough to hold off the Anglo-Saxons (''[[Literature/TheDolphinRing The Lantern Bearers]]'', ''Literature/SwordAtSunset'', ''The Shining Company'').''Literature/TheShiningCompany''). Not until the 12th century do the Saxons and the Normans manage to unite and make it stick – against the French, naturally.
20th Apr '17 11:49:16 PM sayaleviathan
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** Robb, Stannis, and Renly are all enemies of the Lannisters, but they cannot cooperate.
** This trope is what holds the Lannister-Tyrell alliance together despite the Tyrells obvious DragonWithAnAgenda role.
** The War of Five Kings is seriously weakening Westeros and distracting it from the coming invasions by the wildlings, the White Walkers, and Daenerys (assuming she ever does invade).

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** Robb, Stannis, and Renly are all enemies of the Lannisters, but they cannot cooperate.
cooperate. [[spoiler:As a result, all of them lost the War of the Five Kings]].
** This trope is what holds the Lannister-Tyrell alliance together despite the Tyrells obvious DragonWithAnAgenda role.
role. [[spoiler:And when Tywin Lannister died]], Cersei is so focused in destroying the Tyrells that she seemed to forget the threats outside King's Landing. By the time she destroyed her enemies, [[spoiler:the Starks are finally back at the North after crushing the Boltons, the Freys lost control of Riverlands after their patriarch was assassinated and Daenerys Targaryen finally arrives at Westeros to reclaim the crown]].
** The War of Five Kings is seriously weakening Westeros and distracting it from the coming invasions by the wildlings, the White Walkers, and Daenerys (assuming she ever does invade).Walkers.
16th Apr '17 2:48:53 PM nombretomado
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* In William King's ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' SpaceWolf novel ''Grey Hunters'', Trainor recounts the infighting between the separate factions on Gram. Among the Space Wolves themselves, political conflict is enough to make Ragnar think of this, though it does not actually affect their ability to fight (to be just to Ragnar, yes; to fight, no). And when Ragnar has retrieved Trainor and his men, [[InterserviceRivalry the Inquisition tries to keep them as prisoners; the Space Wolves refuse]].

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* In William King's ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' SpaceWolf Literature/SpaceWolf novel ''Grey Hunters'', Trainor recounts the infighting between the separate factions on Gram. Among the Space Wolves themselves, political conflict is enough to make Ragnar think of this, though it does not actually affect their ability to fight (to be just to Ragnar, yes; to fight, no). And when Ragnar has retrieved Trainor and his men, [[InterserviceRivalry the Inquisition tries to keep them as prisoners; the Space Wolves refuse]].
7th Feb '17 9:45:28 AM IndustriousArc
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* ''FanFic/ABrighterDark'': Ryoma becomes so focused on the war with Nohr that he completely ignores the opinions of the ObstructiveBureaucrat shoguns that run the different provinces of Hoshido. While this appears to be CrowningMomentOfAwesome at first, RealityEnsues when Ryoma realizes that dismissing nobles of high status isn't such a good idea when you need their assistance in fighting a war, and they eventually break away from Hoshido all together to fight the war on his own.
20th Jan '17 12:51:45 PM MiddleEighth
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*Sort of invoked in ''Fanfic/TheKeysStandAlone: The Soft World''. The four are baffled that the Guardians and the Circle, the two main good Power Groups, haven't banded together to fight the Black Tower, which is poised to take over C'hou in just over a year. Indeed, the two groups actually spend more time sniping at each other than attempting to defeat the baddies. When the four ask if there's any chance at all the two groups can cooperate, they're told that the two groups have been rivals for a long time, and it would take more than the defense of the minor, extrauniversal C'hou to bring them together. Which of course makes them wonder why the Pyar gods would bring both of them over—not to mention the people who make up the Animals, and the secret Power Groups who are cooperating with no one.
20th Jan '17 11:19:33 AM Morgenthaler
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* In Norman Juster's ''ThePhantomTollbooth'', the two kings ''know'' that bringing back the princesses Rhyme and Reason is what is really needed, but they'd rather disagree with each other. [[spoiler:Until Milo points out that they are in agreement: they agree to disagree.]]

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* In Norman Juster's ''ThePhantomTollbooth'', ''Literature/ThePhantomTollbooth'', the two kings ''know'' that bringing back the princesses Rhyme and Reason is what is really needed, but they'd rather disagree with each other. [[spoiler:Until Milo points out that they are in agreement: they agree to disagree.]]
12th Jan '17 12:43:56 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
** Robb, Stannis, and Renly are all enemies of the Lannisters, but they cannot cooperate.
** This trope is what holds the Lannister-Tyrell alliance together despite the Tyrells obvious DragonWithAnAgenda role.
** The War of Five Kings is seriously weakening Westeros and distracting it from the coming invasions by the wildlings, the White Walkers, and Daenerys (assuming she ever does invade).
29th Dec '16 11:31:15 PM TheDecayedHyena13
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* The Incan civil war, between brothers [[{{Authority Equals Asskicking}} Atahualpa]] and [[{{Properly Paranoid}} Huáscar]], between 1529 and 1532, is this trope to the core. Not only was it an intern war, but the various tribes that formed part of the empire actively purged each other over previous conquests or fightings. In the end, Atahualpa won, and over 1 million people had been killed. And then [[{{Deus Ex Machina}} the conquistadors]] arrived. [[{{Shaggy Dog Story}} The rest is history]].
17th Nov '16 10:36:53 PM DastardlyDemolition
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* The Roman Empire had this all the time. In many cases senators would spend most of their time arguing with each other, and would try to scapegoat or assassinate anyone they deem a threat to their post. It also faced many cases of SuccessionCrisis, with more than a dozen men claiming the title Emperor in less than fifty years. Then the empire was split in half into the Western and Eastern Roman Empires, which ended with the Western Empire finally falling.

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* The Roman Empire had this all the time. In many cases senators would spend most of their time arguing with each other, and would try to scapegoat or assassinate anyone they deem a threat to their post. It also faced many cases of SuccessionCrisis, with more than a dozen men claiming the title Emperor in less than fifty years. Then the empire was split in half into the Western and Eastern Roman Empires, which ended with the Western Empire finally falling. falling after a long period of decline. The Eastern portion (called either the Roman or Byzantine Empire depending on where you lived), survived and even thrived until it too wasted away until it was nothing more then a impotent, little city-state.
10th Nov '16 6:20:34 PM LordInsane
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* This happens in the GDI campaign of the original ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquer''. Partially due to propaganda made by [[BigBad Kane]], the United Nations temporarily cut military funding to the GDI. For a few missions, the commander is left on his own to fight without vital base structures.

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* This happens in the GDI campaign of the original ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquer''. Partially due to propaganda made by [[BigBad Kane]], the United Nations temporarily cut military funding to the GDI. For a few missions, the commander is left on his own to fight without vital base structures. Though when those missions end it turns out [[spoiler: GDI's commanding officer suggested the temporary suspension of funding himself as a way to bait Kane into launching a premature offensive. Once Nod was fully committed, he returned with funding not only restored but increased.]]
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