History Main / DividedWeFall

13th Jun '16 1:28:22 AM Nejiiuyn
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** On a larger scale, this has played out in the war as a whole. The Fire Nation launched an overwhelming strike against the Air Nomads, managing to commit genocide without any other nation coming to their defense (at least successfully). The Water Tribes and Earth Kingdom then decided to see to their own defenses, with the Southern Water Tribe only coming to the Earth Kingdom's aid 97 years into the war.

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** On a larger scale, this has played out in the war as a whole. The Fire Nation launched an overwhelming first strike against the Air Nomads, managing to commit genocide without any other nation coming to their defense (at least successfully). The Water Tribes and Earth Kingdom then decided to see to their own defenses, with the Southern Water Tribe only coming to the Earth Kingdom's aid 97 years into the war.
8th Jun '16 4:05:05 AM Faberlich
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** In ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'', conflicts within the team and the lack of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s presence are a major factor in driving the plot, and as such this lays the foundation for ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''.

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** In ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'', conflicts within the team and the lack of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s presence are a major factor in driving the plot, and as such this lays the foundation plot.
** The tagline
for ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''.''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' invokes it word for word: [[http://cdn3-www.superherohype.com/assets/uploads/gallery/captain-america-civil-war/civil-war-poster-3.jpg "United we stand. Divided we fall."]]
28th May '16 8:53:02 PM Doug86
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* In Creator/RobertEHoward's Literature/{{Kull}} / BranMakMorn story ''Kings of the Night'', Bran is about to lose a tribe because they want a leader of their own blood.

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* In Creator/RobertEHoward's Literature/{{Kull}} / BranMakMorn Literature/BranMakMorn story ''Kings of the Night'', Bran is about to lose a tribe because they want a leader of their own blood.
27th May '16 3:50:04 PM hamza678
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* This is the reason the Free Planets Alliance falls in ''Anime/TheLegendOfGalacticHeroes'': [[ObstructiveBureaucrat selfish bureaucrats]] are in charge and too busy making themselves look good and make sure the military cannot take over to effectively support Yang and the competent members of the FPA Star Fleet, and in fact would even sabotage them if 'unreliable' officers (that is, people who weren't professiona asskissers) appeared to gain too much following in the public and send the fleet on suicidal missions to bolster their own prestige. This came to a head when admiral Greenhill and a number of competent officers launched a coup... Only to fail to gain Yang support, as the latter was too loyal to the ideals of democracy to support them, leading to a short and disastrous civil war right when the Galactic Empire was undergoing [[EnemyCivilWar its own civil war]] ([[DivideAndConquer and in fact Reinhardt orchestrated the Alliance Civil War specifically to make sure they wouldn't be a threat or capable of rebuilding after their recent losses]]). Yang being Yang, he won, restored the democratic but corrupt government... And was the victim of an illegal inquiry ''because'' he had saved them in addition to being a war hero, and thus had enough popular support he could have toppled the government by announcing he was doing that. With the Empire fragmented by its own infighting the Alliance could survive, but once Reinhardt stopped the infighting and installed himself as emperor the war ended in short order.

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* This is the reason the Free Planets Alliance falls in ''Anime/TheLegendOfGalacticHeroes'': ''Anime/LegendOfGalacticHeroes'': [[ObstructiveBureaucrat selfish bureaucrats]] are in charge and too busy making themselves look good and make sure the military cannot take over to effectively support Yang and the competent members of the FPA Star Fleet, and in fact would even sabotage them if 'unreliable' officers (that is, people who weren't professiona asskissers) appeared to gain too much following in the public and send the fleet on suicidal missions to bolster their own prestige. This came to a head when admiral Greenhill and a number of competent officers launched a coup... Only to fail to gain Yang support, as the latter was too loyal to the ideals of democracy to support them, leading to a short and disastrous civil war right when the Galactic Empire was undergoing [[EnemyCivilWar its own civil war]] ([[DivideAndConquer and in fact Reinhardt orchestrated the Alliance Civil War specifically to make sure they wouldn't be a threat or capable of rebuilding after their recent losses]]). Yang being Yang, he won, restored the democratic but corrupt government... And was the victim of an illegal inquiry ''because'' he had saved them in addition to being a war hero, and thus had enough popular support he could have toppled the government by announcing he was doing that. With the Empire fragmented by its own infighting the Alliance could survive, but once Reinhardt stopped the infighting and installed himself as emperor the war ended in short order.
23rd May '16 9:05:12 PM FordPrefect
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* Perfect example was Serbian Empire, a powerful state in Middle Ages Balkans, with a modern Code of Law...But after the death of a strong Emperor, it was conquered by Turks, because its Lords couldn't unite and were fighting about who would be new Emperor. It resulted in 5 centuries of bondage under the Turks(well actually the Turks only controlled Southern parts of today's Serbia, the Northern and Central parts were under the Turks only for 219 years)

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* Perfect A perfect example was the Serbian Empire, a powerful state in Middle Ages Balkans, with a modern Code of Law...But after the death of a strong Emperor, it was conquered by Turks, because its Lords couldn't unite and were fighting about who would be new Emperor. It resulted in 5 centuries of bondage under the Turks(well actually the Turks only controlled Southern parts of today's Serbia, the Northern and Central parts were under the Turks only for 219 years)



* Even when SecondSinoJapaneseWar had broken out in 1937, Yan Xishan (warlord of Shanxi province and owner of the Taiyuan arsenal, China's only manufacturer of artillery) was ''still'' more worried about avoiding being brought into the orbit of ChiangKaiShek than he was of actual military defeat by the Japanese. While he was right to suspect that Chiang wanted Taiyuan arsenal for his own troops, Chiang's real concern was preserving the railway connection to the border with Soviet Mongolia as this was the most efficient route by which Soviet aid could be delivered to his troops [[note]] Chiang Kai-Shek's Nationalist Party was the sole recipient of Soviet military and economic aid to China during the war, much to the chagrin of other organisations like the Chinese Communist Party. The Soviet aeropolanes were flown and the tanks driven in, but the machine-tools and artillery and aviation fuel etcetc all had to be transported by truck. A longer route meant that the Soviet truck-convoys would have to carry more fuel for themselves and therefore less other stuff [[/note]]. Then again, Yan's ability to retain control over his personal fiefdom despite its nominal occupation and even to ''bribe the occupying force of 15,000 Japanese troops into staying on in China under his command for four years after the Japanese surrender'' (through the literal and liberal application of gold, hookers, and heroin) shows that perhaps he had nothing to worry about from occupation after all.

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* Even when the SecondSinoJapaneseWar had broken out in 1937, Yan Xishan (warlord of Shanxi province and owner of the Taiyuan arsenal, China's only manufacturer of artillery) was ''still'' more worried about avoiding being brought into the orbit of ChiangKaiShek than he was of actual military defeat by the Japanese. While he was right to suspect that Chiang wanted Taiyuan arsenal for his own troops, Chiang's real concern was preserving the railway connection to the border with Soviet Mongolia as this was the most efficient route by which Soviet aid could be delivered to his troops [[note]] Chiang Kai-Shek's Nationalist Party was the sole recipient of Soviet military and economic aid to China during the war, much to the chagrin of other organisations like the Chinese Communist Party. The Soviet aeropolanes were flown and the tanks driven in, but the machine-tools and artillery and aviation fuel etcetc all had to be transported by truck. A longer route meant that the Soviet truck-convoys would have to carry more fuel for themselves and therefore less other stuff [[/note]]. Then again, Yan's ability to retain control over his personal fiefdom despite its nominal occupation and even to ''bribe the occupying force of 15,000 Japanese troops into staying on in China under his command for four years after the Japanese surrender'' (through the literal and liberal application of gold, hookers, and heroin) shows that perhaps he had nothing to worry about from occupation after all.



* The Roman Empire has this all the time. In many cases senators will spend most of their time arguing with each other, and would try to scapegoat or assassinate anyone they deem a threat to their post. It also faced many cases of SuccessionCrisis, with more than a dozen men have claimed the title Emperor in less than fifty years. Then the empire is split in half, with the Western Roman Empire, and the Eastern Roman Empire, which ended with the Western Empire finally falling.

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* The Roman Empire has had this all the time. In many cases senators will would spend most of their time arguing with each other, and would try to scapegoat or assassinate anyone they deem a threat to their post. It also faced many cases of SuccessionCrisis, with more than a dozen men have claimed claiming the title Emperor in less than fifty years. Then the empire is was split in half, with half into the Western Roman Empire, and the Eastern Roman Empire, Empires, which ended with the Western Empire finally falling.



* British Leyland, a conglomerate of independent British automobile marques, was (as described by ''Series/TopGear'') plagued by sectarianism with employees not wanting to work with their former competitors, which when combined with poor management and nonexistent quality control, lead them to make some [[TheAllegedCar shockingly awful vehicles]].

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* British Leyland, a conglomerate of independent British automobile marques, was (as described by ''Series/TopGear'') plagued by sectarianism with employees not wanting to work with their former competitors, which when combined with poor management and nonexistent quality control, lead led them to make some [[TheAllegedCar shockingly awful vehicles]].
23rd May '16 6:32:58 PM babyhenchy1
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** The Lannisters all hate each other more than their enemies. Tywin particularly hate Tyrion and Cersei, and the two hate Tywin and each other all the same. When it seems they have won the war, they proceed focus their anger toward each other, in the end Tyrion kills Tywin and leaves Westeros, leaving Cersei as the one running things in Kings Landing, things start going down hill fast for her and the rest of the house. The only Lannister who loves and is loved by all the others is Jaime, and once he starts drifting from them, either from Tyrion with a confession or Cersei due to his reemerging conscience (and her rejection of him), the noose around the Lannisters' neck only tightens more.

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** The Lannisters all hate each other more than their enemies. Tywin particularly hate Tyrion and Cersei, and the two hate Tywin and each other all the same. When it seems they have won the war, they proceed focus their anger toward each other, in the end Tyrion kills Tywin and leaves Westeros, leaving Cersei as the one running things in Kings Landing, things start going down hill fast for her and the rest of the house. The only Lannister who loves and is loved by all the others is Jaime, and once he starts drifting from them, either from Tyrion with a confession or Cersei due to [[HeelFaceTurn his reemerging conscience conscience]] (and her rejection of him), the noose around the Lannisters' neck only tightens more.
23rd May '16 6:32:42 PM babyhenchy1
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** The Lannisters all hate each other more than their enemies. Tywin particularly hate Tyrion and Cersei, and the two hate Tywin and each other all the same. When it seems they have won the war, they proceed focus their anger toward each other, in the end Tyrion kills Tywin and leaves Westeros, leaving Cersei as the one running things in Kings Lannding, things start going down hill fast for her and the rest of the house.

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** The Lannisters all hate each other more than their enemies. Tywin particularly hate Tyrion and Cersei, and the two hate Tywin and each other all the same. When it seems they have won the war, they proceed focus their anger toward each other, in the end Tyrion kills Tywin and leaves Westeros, leaving Cersei as the one running things in Kings Lannding, Landing, things start going down hill fast for her and the rest of the house.house. The only Lannister who loves and is loved by all the others is Jaime, and once he starts drifting from them, either from Tyrion with a confession or Cersei due to his reemerging conscience (and her rejection of him), the noose around the Lannisters' neck only tightens more.
16th May '16 12:34:17 PM Doug86
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* In Creator/RobertEHoward's "Literature/ShadowsInTheMoonlight" the {{pirate}}s after they capture Literature/ConanTheBarbarian.

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* In Creator/RobertEHoward's "Literature/ShadowsInTheMoonlight" the {{pirate}}s after they capture Literature/ConanTheBarbarian.Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian.
29th Apr '16 3:58:44 PM nombretomado
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* In Creator/RobertEHoward's "Literature/ShadowsInTheMoonlight" the {{pirate}}s after they capture ConanTheBarbarian.

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* In Creator/RobertEHoward's "Literature/ShadowsInTheMoonlight" the {{pirate}}s after they capture ConanTheBarbarian.Literature/ConanTheBarbarian.
26th Apr '16 2:10:30 PM Willbyr
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** Also, the Black Knights leaving the JLF to die. NightmareOfNunnally takes this one step further into Zero ''and'' Kyoto flatly selling them out. They were too unpredictable.

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** Also, the Black Knights leaving the JLF to die. NightmareOfNunnally ''[[Manga/CodeGeassNightmareOfNunnally Nightmare of Nunnally]]'' takes this one step further into Zero ''and'' Kyoto flatly selling them out. They were too unpredictable.
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