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17th Oct '17 10:29:35 AM KingLyger
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* You're very unlikely to find an HonestJohnsDealership today, since most car dealerships today are run through company-certified distributors of their cars, rather than used car lots run by corrupt Johns, and even if you do find one, Lemon Laws and the rise of Social Media will make it very unlikely for him to stay in business for very long.

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* You're very unlikely to find an HonestJohnsDealership today, since most HonestJohnsDealership: Most car dealerships today are run through company-certified distributors of their cars, rather than used car lots run by corrupt Johns, and even Honest Johns. Even if you do find one, Lemon Laws "lemon laws" and the rise of Social Media social media will make it very unlikely for him someone who openly tries cheating their customers out of money to stay be in business for very long. long.



* LateForSchool: Discredited in Anime and Manga due to overuse; current Japanese "How to Become a Shoujo Manga-ka" books specifically advise against using this trope, and more recent manga even lampshade how much of a cliché it is.

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* LateForSchool: Discredited in Anime anime and Manga manga due to overuse; current rampant overuse. In TheNewTens, Japanese "How to Become a Shoujo Manga-ka" books specifically advise advised against using this trope, and more recent manga from around the same time even lampshade began lampshading how much of a cliché it this is.



* MachoDisasterExpedition: The inherent sexism against both genders when using this trope -- namely, that men are incompetent sexist morons, and that [[StayInTheKitchen a woman is naturally better at keeping house, even if it's in the wilderness]] -- have made using this trope [[UnfortunateImplications uncomfortable]].

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* MachoDisasterExpedition: The inherent sexism against both genders when using this trope -- namely, that men are incompetent sexist morons, morons who will never take a woman's advice, and that [[StayInTheKitchen a woman is women are naturally better at keeping house, even if it's in the wilderness]] -- have made using this trope [[UnfortunateImplications uncomfortable]].



* NinetiesAntiHero: While there are plenty of dark Superhero comics, the typical costume and characterization tropes in the '90s are considered laughable instead of cool, with several of the original characters either being {{retool}}ed, or PutOnABus. Except in VideoGames, a medium where it seems to work better than comic books.

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* NinetiesAntiHero: While there are plenty of dark Superhero superhero comics, the typical costume and characterization tropes in the '90s are considered laughable instead of cool, with several of the original characters either being {{retool}}ed, or PutOnABus. Except in VideoGames, a medium where it seems to work better than comic books.



* The {{Padding}} technique used in British adventure serials (''Series/DoctorWho'' and ''Series/BlakesSeven'' being the two most notorious abusers) of having the hero get captured at the end of one part ({{Cliffhanger}}), spend the next episode escaping and get captured again at the end of ''that'' episode [[DiabolusExMachina by the same people]] ({{Cliffhanger}}). The fact that the mainstream, cliffhanger-laden adventure serial is a dead format, how the age of just shoving an episode out in a week ("so just write some stuff where everyone's running about to fill up minutes, who cares if it's good") is gone forever thanks to the increased complexity of special effects, and the fact that shows like this tend to be aimed at cult audiences who are very sensitive to this kind of plotting mean that this is never done nowadays, and if it does show up it's usually in spoofs.
* ParentalFavoritism: The Biological Vs. Adoption variation of it. It hardly needs mentioning that dozens of [[FairyTale fairy tales]] (notably "Literature/{{Cinderella}}") involve stepchildren mistreated by their parents in favor of their biological children. This is a discredited trope today; more commonly, you have an adopted child who suffers some perceived slight from his stepparent and must be reassured that he is loved just as much as the parent's natural children.

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* {{Padding}}: The {{Padding}} technique used in British adventure serials (''Series/DoctorWho'' and ''Series/BlakesSeven'' being the two most notorious abusers) of having the hero get captured at the end of one part ({{Cliffhanger}}), spend the next episode escaping and get captured again at the end of ''that'' episode [[DiabolusExMachina by the same people]] ({{Cliffhanger}}). The fact that the mainstream, cliffhanger-laden adventure serial is a dead format, how the age of just shoving an episode out in a week ("so just write some stuff where everyone's running about to fill up minutes, who cares if it's good") is gone forever thanks to the increased complexity of special effects, and the fact that shows like this tend to be aimed at cult audiences who are very sensitive to this kind of plotting mean that this is never done nowadays, and if it does show up it's usually in spoofs.
* ParentalFavoritism: The Biological Vs. Adoption variation of it. It hardly needs mentioning that dozens of [[FairyTale fairy tales]] {{fairy tale}}s (notably "Literature/{{Cinderella}}") involve stepchildren mistreated by their parents in favor of their biological children. This is a discredited trope today; more commonly, you have an adopted child who suffers some perceived slight from his stepparent and must be reassured that he is loved just as much as the parent's natural children.



* [[ScreamerPrank Screamers]] have received two major blows over the Internet's history. Initially, when flash movies and games were still the norm, there were no clear distinctions between screamers and legitimate pages, creating a minefield for fearful site goers; this meant less traffic for sites like [=FunnyJunk=] and [=WinterWorld=]. Later, with [[Website/YouTube the advent of video over flash files]], viewers were able to scroll to the end of the video to see if any suspicions were confirmed, removing all suspense and [[TropeBreaker defeating the purpose of screamers]]. [[EvolvingTrope They have since been replaced by]] [[BaitAndSwitch the trap video]], which puts the scare at the ''beginning'' of the video, and aims not to make individuals jump, but [[{{Troll}} to cause outrage or confusion within specific audiences]]. Furthermore, they've also been overshadowed by {{Rickroll}}s as the Internet's prank of choice.

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* [[ScreamerPrank Screamers]] ScreamerPrank: Screamers have received two major blows over the Internet's history. Initially, when flash movies and games were still the norm, there were no clear distinctions between screamers and legitimate pages, creating a minefield for fearful site goers; this meant less traffic for sites like [=FunnyJunk=] and [=WinterWorld=]. Later, with [[Website/YouTube the advent of video over flash files]], viewers were able to scroll to the end of the video to see if any suspicions were confirmed, removing all suspense and [[TropeBreaker defeating the purpose of screamers]]. [[EvolvingTrope They have since been replaced by]] [[BaitAndSwitch the trap video]], which puts the scare at the ''beginning'' of the video, and aims not to make individuals jump, but [[{{Troll}} to cause outrage or confusion within specific audiences]]. Furthermore, they've also been overshadowed by {{Rickroll}}s as the Internet's prank of choice.



* The idea of SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll seems to have more-or-less fallen by the wayside. This is probably due mostly to the vast number of drug-related deaths and rehab stints among various rock musicians in the '60s, '70s and '80s (Music/JimiHendrix, [[Music/MotleyCrue Nikki Sixx]], Music/OzzyOsbourne, etc.). However, other factors include the extensive anti-drug campaigning of the '80s, the AIDS scare mostly rendering the concept of "Free Love" obsolete, and the rise of rock-pop in the '80s and the Grunge movement of the early '90s shifting the focus of rock away from glorified sex and drug use, while the "{{nice guy}}" personas of 2010s-era IndieRock artists has rendered the whole idea of "all rockers are bad boys" as laughable. Granted, sex and drugs still exist in the music business. But most of the musicians who engage in such activities, at least in Western mainstream pop and country music, are far more secretive and openly ambivalent towards them than before. On the other hand, [[ElectronicDanceMusic EDM and related festival culture]] is fairly open about it, as are some sections of HipHop and rap, "outlaw" country, and underground music of various sorts. Japanese VisualKei keeps things more secretive, but SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll is still a frequent trope there if you look beyond the "official", and alcohol abuse and smoking are quite open there.

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* The idea of SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll seems SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll: Seems to have more-or-less fallen by the wayside. This is probably due mostly to the vast number of drug-related deaths and rehab stints among various rock musicians in the '60s, '70s and '80s (Music/JimiHendrix, [[Music/MotleyCrue Nikki Sixx]], Music/OzzyOsbourne, etc.). However, other factors include the extensive anti-drug campaigning of the '80s, the AIDS scare mostly rendering the concept of "Free Love" obsolete, and the rise of rock-pop in the '80s and the Grunge movement of the early '90s shifting the focus of rock away from glorified sex and drug use, while the "{{nice guy}}" personas of 2010s-era IndieRock artists has rendered the whole idea of "all rockers are bad boys" as laughable. Granted, sex and drugs still exist in the music business. But most of the musicians who engage in such activities, at least in Western mainstream pop and country music, are far more secretive and openly ambivalent towards them than before. On the other hand, [[ElectronicDanceMusic EDM and related festival culture]] is fairly open about it, as are some sections of HipHop and rap, "outlaw" country, and underground music of various sorts. Japanese VisualKei keeps things more secretive, but SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll is still a frequent trope there if you look beyond the "official", and alcohol abuse and smoking are quite open there.
15th Oct '17 8:46:07 AM thecarolinabull01
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* UndeadHorseTrope, for tropes that have been subverted, parodied or ridiculed to death, but are still played straight often enough to avoid being considered Dead Horse Tropes.

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* UndeadHorseTrope, for tropes that have been subverted, parodied or ridiculed to death, but are still played straight often enough to avoid being considered Discredited or Dead Horse Tropes.
14th Oct '17 8:48:33 AM thecarolinabull01
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* UndeadHorseTrope, for tropes that have been subverted, parodied or ridiculed to death, but are still played straight often enough to avoid being Discredited or Dead Horse Tropes.

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* UndeadHorseTrope, for tropes that have been subverted, parodied or ridiculed to death, but are still played straight often enough to avoid being Discredited or considered Dead Horse Tropes.
12th Oct '17 11:46:58 AM thecarolinabull01
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* UndeadHorseTrope, for tropes that are still used unironically despite them having been subverted or parodied to death.

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* UndeadHorseTrope, for tropes that have been subverted, parodied or ridiculed to death, but are still used unironically despite them having been subverted played straight often enough to avoid being Discredited or parodied to death.
Dead Horse Tropes.
9th Oct '17 5:21:42 PM Prinzenick
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* CrushKillDestroy: Considered a trite relic of old science fiction B-movies, and is almost never used seriously in live action movies now. [[DeadHorseTrope It still pops up for camp value in cartoons, though.]]
9th Oct '17 12:46:26 AM Prinzenick
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* PoundsAreAnimalPrisons: Fortunately becoming this with animal welfare groups (not the AnimalWrongsGroup) making the plight of abandoned and abused animals more well-known, though it may have originated from the ForgottenTrope of the Diabolical Dogcatcher (especially in areas where pet ownership required an official license).

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* PoundsAreAnimalPrisons: Fortunately becoming this with animal welfare groups (not the AnimalWrongsGroup) making the plight of abandoned and abused animals more well-known, though it may have originated from the ForgottenTrope of the Diabolical Dogcatcher DiabolicalDogCatcher (especially in areas where pet ownership required an official license).
9th Oct '17 12:41:56 AM Prinzenick
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* PoundsAreAnimalPrisons: Fortunately becoming this with animal welfare groups (not the AnimalWrongsGroup) making the plight of abandoned and abused animals more well-known, though it may have originated from the ForgottenTrope of the Diabolical Dogcatcher (especially in areas where pet ownership required an official license).
5th Oct '17 12:14:53 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* RememberTheAlamo: Discredited in works set in the present day or near future.
1st Oct '17 4:36:49 PM Romagnadvoratrelundar
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* ComputerEqualsMonitor: While all-in-one [=PCs=] and Macs do exist, it's generally considered silly to treat the computer monitor and the computer itself as one and the same in contemporary works, unless it's a laptop or a tablet.

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* ComputerEqualsMonitor: While all-in-one [=PCs=] and Macs do exist, it's generally considered silly to treat the computer monitor and the computer itself as one and the same in contemporary works, unless it's a laptop or a tablet.tablet (or an [=iMac=]).
1st Oct '17 3:14:52 PM ADrago
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* EveryCarIsAPinto: If the massive numbers of parodies (such as cars exploding after the slightest dent, or things that couldn't possibly explode such as bicycles or trees blowing up in a collision) and {{Lampshade Hanging}}s in recent years is any indication, this is on its way to being this, especially after ''Series/MythBusters'' [[JustForFun/TropesExaminedByTheMythbusters debunked it]]. However, there are still plenty of people who believe this trope is true, leading to well-meaning bystanders pulling accident victims out of cars and [[TelevisionIsTryingToKillUs causing further harm]].

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* EveryCarIsAPinto: If the massive numbers of parodies (such as cars exploding after the slightest dent, or things that couldn't possibly explode such as bicycles or trees blowing up in a collision) and {{Lampshade Hanging}}s in recent years is any indication, this is on its way to being this, especially after ''Series/MythBusters'' [[JustForFun/TropesExaminedByTheMythbusters debunked it]]. However, there are still plenty of people who believe this trope is true, leading to well-meaning bystanders pulling accident victims out of cars and [[TelevisionIsTryingToKillUs [[JustForFun/TelevisionIsTryingToKillUs causing further harm]].
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