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6th Oct '17 12:00:25 PM isolato
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* The unfortunate brother [[UnfortunateNames Nhumrod]] from Discworld/SmallGods, who is tormented every waking moment (and even worse in his sleeping moments) by thoughts of a luxurious nature. As he's also the master of the novitiates, he is always reminding them of the dangers of this sin (according to the older novitiates, asking him about it is quite educational, especially when he starts foaming at the mouth).

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* The unfortunate brother [[UnfortunateNames Nhumrod]] from Discworld/SmallGods, ''Discworld/SmallGods'', who is tormented every waking moment (and even worse in his sleeping moments) by thoughts of a luxurious nature. As he's also the master of the novitiates, he is always reminding them of the dangers of this sin (according to the older novitiates, asking him about it is quite educational, especially when he starts foaming at the mouth).
6th Oct '17 10:50:44 AM isolato
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* In Literature/TheGoodSoldierSvejk Otto Katz is depicted as "the most perfect of army chaplains". An [[UsefulNotes/TheSoundOfMartialMusic Austro-Hungarian]] UsefulNotes/WorldWarI military chaplain who is given to drink (he's TheAlcoholic of the novel where almost all characters are drinking heavily) and card games with other officers (though he's widely suspected of [[CardSharp hiding aces up in the sleeve of his cassock]] by them), but he is less inclined to visiting brothels, because he has some debts there. Instead he sends his orderly to fetch him a StreetWalker from time to time. His sermons and religious services are often considered quite refreshing, as his alcoholic ramblings and drunken improvisations sometimes remade a Holy Mass into an entirely new kind of show. In general he takes chaplaincy as "''[[OnlyInItForTheMoney just a well paid profession, where a fellow like me does not have to overwork himself]]''" (he was actually raised Jewish - [[InformedJudaism which apparently had not influenced him in any way]], either), but he also states that he is quite tolerant to his more religiously-minded colleagues.

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* In Literature/TheGoodSoldierSvejk ''Literature/TheGoodSoldierSvejk'' Otto Katz is depicted as "the most perfect of army chaplains". An [[UsefulNotes/TheSoundOfMartialMusic Austro-Hungarian]] UsefulNotes/WorldWarI military chaplain who is given to drink (he's TheAlcoholic of the novel where almost all characters are drinking heavily) and card games with other officers (though he's widely suspected of [[CardSharp hiding aces up in the sleeve of his cassock]] by them), but he is less inclined to visiting brothels, because he has some debts there. Instead he sends his orderly to fetch him a StreetWalker from time to time. His sermons and religious services are often considered quite refreshing, as his alcoholic ramblings and drunken improvisations sometimes remade a Holy Mass into an entirely new kind of show. In general he takes chaplaincy as "''[[OnlyInItForTheMoney just a well paid profession, where a fellow like me does not have to overwork himself]]''" (he was actually raised Jewish - [[InformedJudaism which apparently had not influenced him in any way]], either), but he also states that he is quite tolerant to his more religiously-minded colleagues.
6th Oct '17 10:48:34 AM isolato
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* In Literature/TheGoodSoldierSvejk Otto Katz is depicted as "the most perfect of army chaplains". An [[UsefulNotes/TheSoundOfMartialMusic Austro-Hungarian]] UsefulNotes/WorldWarI military chaplain who is given to drink (he's TheAlcoholic of the novel where almost all characters are drinking heavily) and card games with other officers (though he's widely suspected of [[CardSharp hiding aces up in the sleeve of his cassock]] by them), but he is less inclined to visiting brothels, because he has some debts there. Instead he sends his orderly to fetch him a StreetWalker from time to time. His sermons and religious services are often considered quite refreshing, as his alcoholic ramblings and drunken improvisations sometimes remade a Holy Mass into an entirely new kind of show. In general he takes chaplaincy as "''just a well paid profession, where a fellow does not have to overwork himself''" (he was actually raised Jewish - [[InformedJudaism which apparently had not influenced him in any way]], either), but he also states that he is quite tolerant to his more religiously-minded colleagues.

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* In Literature/TheGoodSoldierSvejk Otto Katz is depicted as "the most perfect of army chaplains". An [[UsefulNotes/TheSoundOfMartialMusic Austro-Hungarian]] UsefulNotes/WorldWarI military chaplain who is given to drink (he's TheAlcoholic of the novel where almost all characters are drinking heavily) and card games with other officers (though he's widely suspected of [[CardSharp hiding aces up in the sleeve of his cassock]] by them), but he is less inclined to visiting brothels, because he has some debts there. Instead he sends his orderly to fetch him a StreetWalker from time to time. His sermons and religious services are often considered quite refreshing, as his alcoholic ramblings and drunken improvisations sometimes remade a Holy Mass into an entirely new kind of show. In general he takes chaplaincy as "''just "''[[OnlyInItForTheMoney just a well paid profession, where a fellow like me does not have to overwork himself''" himself]]''" (he was actually raised Jewish - [[InformedJudaism which apparently had not influenced him in any way]], either), but he also states that he is quite tolerant to his more religiously-minded colleagues.
15th Sep '17 9:19:11 PM Luppercus
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* Grigori Rasputin, known as the Mad Monk, was famous for his bisexual promiscuity. He did spent some times in an Orthodox monastry, but was never formally ordained.
13th Sep '17 3:32:23 PM Fireblood
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* Friar Carl in ''Film/VanHelsing'', [[InsistentTerminology but technically he's only a friar,]] [[BlatantLies so that makes it okay.]][[note]]Friars are different from monks in that travel around rather than staying in a monastery, but the celibacy applies to both.[[/note]]

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* Friar Carl in ''Film/VanHelsing'', [[InsistentTerminology but technically he's only a friar,]] [[BlatantLies so that makes it okay.]][[note]]Friars are different from monks in that they travel around rather than staying in a monastery, but the celibacy applies to both.[[/note]]
4th Sep '17 8:28:48 AM Chabal2
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* Averted for the most part in ''BrotherCadfael'': two monks have fathered children (one of them being Cadfael himself), but in both cases it was before they joined the monastery (and in the second's case, he thought the child had died and waited until he though he was dying.
* The unfortunate brother Nhumrod from Discworld/SmallGods, who is tormented every waking moment (and even worse in his sleeping moments) by thoughts of a luxurious nature. As he's also the master of the novitiates, he is always reminding them of the dangers of this sin (according to the older novitiates, asking him about it is quite educational, especially when he starts foaming at the mouth).

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* Averted for the most part in ''BrotherCadfael'': two monks have fathered children (one of them being Cadfael himself), but in both cases it was before they joined the monastery (and in the second's case, he thought the both girl and child had died (a thought encouraged by her mother) and waited until he though thought he was dying.
dying to confess).
* The unfortunate brother Nhumrod [[UnfortunateNames Nhumrod]] from Discworld/SmallGods, who is tormented every waking moment (and even worse in his sleeping moments) by thoughts of a luxurious nature. As he's also the master of the novitiates, he is always reminding them of the dangers of this sin (according to the older novitiates, asking him about it is quite educational, especially when he starts foaming at the mouth).
26th Jun '17 12:18:29 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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** The tenth and early eleventh centuries were known as the "pornocracy" (="rule of the prostitutes") in Rome, when the Pope's mistresses (frequently Roman nobles) and their friends (frequently the mistresses' brothers) ran Rome and the Church "[[ComicBook/TheCartoonHistoryOfTheUniverse by means fair and foul]]." At about the same time, discipline in the lower ranks was also notoriously bad, with priests, monks, and bishops regularly indulging in luxuries and other things that really ought to be off-limits to one who has taken vows of chastity and poverty.
** During TheRenaissance, the Popes were once again taking mistresses and generally behaving badly. While the most famous for his womanizing (and other things) is Pope Alexander VI (Rodrigo Borgia), the other Popes of the era got in on the act, as well. At the same time, most priests and lower-level ecclesiastics were not half as bad, but many bishops, most archbishops, and pretty much all the cardinals engaged in lives of luxury, intrigue, nepotism, and multiple mistresses. However, the Reformation (and consequent Counter-Reformation) put the kibosh on all that with the new rule that clergy had to be celibate and could no longer own property.

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** The tenth and early eleventh centuries were known as the "pornocracy" (="rule of the prostitutes") in Rome, when the Pope's mistresses (frequently Roman nobles) noblewomen) and their friends (frequently the mistresses' brothers) ran Rome and the Church "[[ComicBook/TheCartoonHistoryOfTheUniverse by means fair and foul]]." At about the same time, discipline in the lower ranks was also notoriously bad, with priests, monks, and bishops regularly indulging in luxuries and other things that really ought to be off-limits to one who has taken vows of chastity and poverty.
** During TheRenaissance, UsefulNotes/TheRenaissance, the Popes were once again taking mistresses and generally behaving badly. While the most famous for his womanizing (and other things) is Pope Alexander VI (Rodrigo Borgia), the other Popes of the era got in on the act, as well. At the same time, most priests and lower-level ecclesiastics were not half as bad, but many bishops, most archbishops, and pretty much all the cardinals engaged in lives of luxury, intrigue, nepotism, and multiple mistresses. However, the Reformation (and consequent Counter-Reformation) put the kibosh on all that with the new rule that clergy had to be celibate and could no longer own property.
24th Jun '17 9:35:03 AM nombretomado
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* Used several times in ''JudgeDee'', and PlayedForDrama. The Judge's third wife was raped by a monk who saw her defenseless, and in another a shrine renowned for allowing unfertile women to have children turns out to be run by monks who use a decidedly non-sanctioned method to conceive.

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* Used several times in ''JudgeDee'', ''Literature/JudgeDee'', and PlayedForDrama. The Judge's third wife was raped by a monk who saw her defenseless, and in another a shrine renowned for allowing unfertile women to have children turns out to be run by monks who use a decidedly non-sanctioned method to conceive.
20th May '17 12:30:52 PM jamespolk
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* ''Film/{{Enjo}}'': Tayama, the abbot at a Buddhist monastery has a geisha mistress that he impregnates, and keeps pinups of geisha girls.
21st Apr '17 2:20:57 AM jormis29
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* ''{{Bedazzled}}'' (1967) - A cardinal is at the Devil's going away party in his seedy nightclub and hits on Stanley who's in nun drag - earlier on Stanley wonders why the devil doesn't use a pigeon to crap on a clergyman and make him sin with anger; the devil explains 'he's on our side'.

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* ''{{Bedazzled}}'' (1967) ''Film/Bedazzled1967'' - A cardinal is at the Devil's going away party in his seedy nightclub and hits on Stanley who's in nun drag - earlier on Stanley wonders why the devil doesn't use a pigeon to crap on a clergyman and make him sin with anger; the devil explains 'he's on our side'.
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