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23rd Feb '17 4:16:41 AM MinisterOfSinister
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** "Delenda Est": Everard lies to Deirdre about his presence in her AlternateHistory, and then about their ability to go back -- they will not return her to it, to be blotted out with the rest of it, but he feels guilty about both the lies and the way they are consigning everyone in that history to non-existence.



** "Delenda Est": Everard lies to Deirdre about his presence in her AlternateHistory, and then about their ability to go back -- they will not return her to it, to be blotted out with the rest of it, but he feels guilty about both the lies and the way they are consigning everyone in that history to non-existence.
12th Jan '17 10:04:00 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
** "The man who passes the sentence should swing the sword" is an ancient custom in the North, where the incumbent Lord Stark personally judges and carries out executions. It's meant as a safeguard against tyranny because a ruler who hides behind paid executioners soon forgets what death is and may become arbitrary. Ned's son, Robb, later follows this philosophy.
** Ned euthanizes Lady himself because she deserves better than to be butchered by Cersei's men, but he's very afflicted by Robert's decision.
** Stannis expresses some regret over killing Renly, but rationalizes that it was the only way to get back the forces that had been stolen from him.
11th Jan '17 6:11:34 PM nombretomado
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* In Creator/DorothyLSayers' ''Gaudy Night'', LordPeterWimsey has Harriet help him draw out information from the senior university members. She tells him that she feels like Judas, he tells her it's part of the job, and she soldiers on.

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* In Creator/DorothyLSayers' ''Gaudy Night'', LordPeterWimsey Literature/LordPeterWimsey has Harriet help him draw out information from the senior university members. She tells him that she feels like Judas, he tells her it's part of the job, and she soldiers on.
22nd Oct '16 10:59:02 PM SpocktorWho
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** As an angel, Castiel is often quite focused on the big picture and is willing to commit some rather awful acts [[TheNeedsOfTheMany for the greater good]], such as blowing up a town or killing a child, but he doesn't enjoy it and will often apologize to whoever's going suffer. This is exemplified in season six, when he [[spoiler:decides to work with Crowley to open Purgatory so he can gain enough power to defeat Raphael before his brother restarts the Apocalypse]]. He ''knows'' what he's doing is far from good, and clearly feels guilty about it, but he does it anyway because he sees literally no other option besides just letting Earth get torched.
17th Oct '16 5:48:07 PM nombretomado
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* ''{{Juathuur}}'': [[spoiler: Meidar is the queen of this trope. Juar has his moments too.]]

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* ''{{Juathuur}}'': ''Webcomic/{{Juathuur}}'': [[spoiler: Meidar is the queen of this trope. Juar has his moments too.]]
17th Sep '16 10:15:00 PM azul120
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He can even think that it is DirtyBusiness while he decides to do it, feeling stuck between a rock and a hard place. Often due to ConflictingLoyalty, he would feel it about either choice. When the hero does wish he had not done it, see MyGodWhatHaveIDone and TearsOfRemorse.

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He can even think that it is DirtyBusiness Dirty Business while he decides to do it, feeling stuck between a rock and a hard place. Often due to ConflictingLoyalty, he would feel it about either choice. When the hero does wish he had not done it, see MyGodWhatHaveIDone and TearsOfRemorse.



How wrong the act is depends on the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism, and the character. Those with IncorruptiblePurePureness may feel it for even ambiguous acts, while an AntiHero or AntiVillain may reserve it for serious wrongdoing. Sometimes a character suffers CuriousQualmsOfConscience when he can't figure out why he thinks that act was DirtyBusiness.

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How wrong the act is depends on the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism, and the character. Those with IncorruptiblePurePureness may feel it for even ambiguous acts, while an AntiHero or AntiVillain may reserve it for serious wrongdoing. Sometimes a character suffers CuriousQualmsOfConscience when he can't figure out why he thinks that act was DirtyBusiness.
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* ''Anime/WeissKreuz'': DirtyBusiness is essentially the ''raison d'etre'' for Weiss, a team of [[ProfessionalKiller assassins]] who kill criminals that escape the justice of the law. All of the members of Weiss consider themselves unforgivable sinners, but do what they do in order to protect innocents.

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* ''Anime/WeissKreuz'': DirtyBusiness Dirty Business is essentially the ''raison d'etre'' for Weiss, a team of [[ProfessionalKiller assassins]] who kill criminals that escape the justice of the law. All of the members of Weiss consider themselves unforgivable sinners, but do what they do in order to protect innocents.



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* In the UsefulNotes/WorldWarII novel, ''The Young Lions'', one of the protagonists, an American soldier stationed in England listens to a sermon, where the priest says that soldiers should treat the entire war as DirtyBusiness; they shouldn't be proud about the Germans they killed, they should mourn them. "Kill, if you must, because in our weakness and in our error, we have found no other road to peace, but kill remorsefully, kill with a sense of sorrow, kill with economy for the immortal souls, who leave this life in battle".

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* In the UsefulNotes/WorldWarII novel, ''The Young Lions'', one of the protagonists, an American soldier stationed in England listens to a sermon, where the priest says that soldiers should treat the entire war as DirtyBusiness; Dirty Business; they shouldn't be proud about the Germans they killed, they should mourn them. "Kill, if you must, because in our weakness and in our error, we have found no other road to peace, but kill remorsefully, kill with a sense of sorrow, kill with economy for the immortal souls, who leave this life in battle".



%%* ''Series/PersonOfInterest'' features copious amounts of DirtyBusiness, both in the past and present. Reese was a black-on-black ops specialist for the government, Finch built the closest thing to a ShadowDictator, and Fusco was a DirtyCop who has apparently dumped bodies in the past. A big theme has been their struggle with how this has affected them and how helping the Persons of Interest has slightly redeemed them.

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%%* ''Series/PersonOfInterest'' features copious amounts of DirtyBusiness, Dirty Business, both in the past and present. Reese was a black-on-black ops specialist for the government, Finch built the closest thing to a ShadowDictator, and Fusco was a DirtyCop who has apparently dumped bodies in the past. A big theme has been their struggle with how this has affected them and how helping the Persons of Interest has slightly redeemed them.
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* Litchi Faye-Ling in ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' is set to fulfill her promise to save her friend Lotte Carmine from the fate of being [[EldritchAbomination Arakune]], while having to withstand her ailing health due to the Boundary corruption. While she still remains a kind hearted lady, she is ForcedIntoEvil and had to become an NOL member under both Hazama and Relius Clover to withhold her ailing status so she has more time to save Roy, but she doesn't trust both of them and her will wavers about what she is doing. [[spoiler:This culminates in ''Chronophantasma'' where she finally was convinced to steel her will to save Roy, but the cure cannot be procured in this world and the only way to do so is to go along with Relius to recreate the world to a point where it's still possible to save Roy by preventing him to commit the research that will turn him to Arakune. Litchi accepts it reluctantly, as she was forced to fight her friend Bang Shishigami, she did it with remorse, [[ApologeticAttacker apologizing before having to coldly beat him up]]. To further how this is actually a DirtyBusiness, when Carl Clover decided to ''do the same'' for his own plans, Litchi warned him that he shouldn't go down the villains' path, showing that she clearly dislikes this position but it's the only way available to fulfill the promise she made, and she doesn't want Carl to suffer the same thing. Though Carl decided to bear with it anyway.]]

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* Litchi Faye-Ling in ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' is set to fulfill her promise to save her friend Lotte Carmine from the fate of being [[EldritchAbomination Arakune]], while having to withstand her ailing health due to the Boundary corruption. While she still remains a kind hearted lady, she is ForcedIntoEvil and had to become an NOL member under both Hazama and Relius Clover to withhold her ailing status so she has more time to save Roy, but she doesn't trust both of them and her will wavers about what she is doing. [[spoiler:This culminates in ''Chronophantasma'' where she finally was convinced to steel her will to save Roy, but the cure cannot be procured in this world and the only way to do so is to go along with Relius to recreate the world to a point where it's still possible to save Roy by preventing him to commit the research that will turn him to Arakune. Litchi accepts it reluctantly, as she was forced to fight her friend Bang Shishigami, she did it with remorse, [[ApologeticAttacker apologizing before having to coldly beat him up]]. To further how this is actually a DirtyBusiness, Dirty Business, when Carl Clover decided to ''do the same'' for his own plans, Litchi warned him that he shouldn't go down the villains' path, showing that she clearly dislikes this position but it's the only way available to fulfill the promise she made, and she doesn't want Carl to suffer the same thing. Though Carl decided to bear with it anyway.]]
3rd Sep '16 8:58:59 AM MasoTey
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* Litchi Faye-Ling in ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' is set to fulfill her promise to save her friend Lotte Carmine from the fate of being [[EldritchAbomination Arakune]], while having to withstand her ailing health due to the Boundary corruption. While she still remains a kind hearted lady, she is ForcedIntoEvil and had to become an NOL member under both Hazama and Relius Clover to withhold her ailing status so she has more time to save Roy, but she doesn't trust both of them and her will wavers about what she is doing. [[spoiler:This culminates in ''Chronophantasma'' where she finally was convinced to steel her will to save Roy, but the cure cannot be procured in this world and the only way to do so is to go along with Relius to recreate the world to a point where it's still possible to save Roy by preventing him to commit the research that will turn him to Arakune. Litchi accepts it reluctantly, as she was forced to fight her friend Bang Shishigami, she did it with remorse, apologizing before having to coldly beat him up. To further how this is actually a DirtyBusiness, when Carl Clover decided to ''do the same'' for his own plans, Litchi warned him that he shouldn't go down the villains' path, showing that she clearly dislikes this position but it's the only way available to fulfill the promise she made, and she doesn't want Carl to suffer the same thing. Though Carl decided to bear with it anyway.]]

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* Litchi Faye-Ling in ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' is set to fulfill her promise to save her friend Lotte Carmine from the fate of being [[EldritchAbomination Arakune]], while having to withstand her ailing health due to the Boundary corruption. While she still remains a kind hearted lady, she is ForcedIntoEvil and had to become an NOL member under both Hazama and Relius Clover to withhold her ailing status so she has more time to save Roy, but she doesn't trust both of them and her will wavers about what she is doing. [[spoiler:This culminates in ''Chronophantasma'' where she finally was convinced to steel her will to save Roy, but the cure cannot be procured in this world and the only way to do so is to go along with Relius to recreate the world to a point where it's still possible to save Roy by preventing him to commit the research that will turn him to Arakune. Litchi accepts it reluctantly, as she was forced to fight her friend Bang Shishigami, she did it with remorse, [[ApologeticAttacker apologizing before having to coldly beat him up.up]]. To further how this is actually a DirtyBusiness, when Carl Clover decided to ''do the same'' for his own plans, Litchi warned him that he shouldn't go down the villains' path, showing that she clearly dislikes this position but it's the only way available to fulfill the promise she made, and she doesn't want Carl to suffer the same thing. Though Carl decided to bear with it anyway.]]
11th Aug '16 7:13:04 PM PaulA
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* In Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's ''[[Literature/VorkosiganSaga The Vor Game]]'', Miles Vorkosigan tells people -- even his friends -- so many lies and half-truths that he feels deeply relieved when he can tell Tung that he's trying to rescue Gregor, because that's a whole truth.
** In ''Barrayar'' when Drou drops into a bit of a funk after she kills a man in her first real combat experience, Cordelia tells her to treasure her guilt, because society needs people who are capable of doing the necessary evil, without becoming evil themselves.

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* In Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's ''[[Literature/VorkosiganSaga The Vor Game]]'', ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'':
** In ''Literature/TheVorGame'',
Miles Vorkosigan tells people -- even his friends -- so many lies and half-truths that he feels deeply relieved when he can tell Tung that he's trying to rescue Gregor, because that's a whole truth.
** In ''Barrayar'' ''Literature/{{Barrayar}}'' when Drou drops into a bit of a funk after she kills a man in her first real combat experience, Cordelia tells her to treasure her guilt, because society needs people who are capable of doing the necessary evil, without becoming evil themselves.
4th Aug '16 8:53:08 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'': Cortana, in the final cutscene of the first game, asserts that her and Chief [[IDidWhatIHadToDo did what they had to do]] [[spoiler:by destroying the titular ringworld to save the galaxy, despite the fact that an unknown number of UNSC allies were still trapped on its surface]], though it's clear from her tone of voice that she's trying to convince herself and the Master Chief, not stating her actual feelings.

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* ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'': ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'':
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Cortana, in the final cutscene of the first game, asserts ''VideoGame/HaloCombatEvolved'', assures that her and Chief [[IDidWhatIHadToDo they did what they had to do]] [[spoiler:by destroying the titular ringworld to save the galaxy, despite the fact that an unknown number of UNSC allies were still trapped on its surface]], though it's clear from her tone of voice that she's trying to convince herself and the Master Chief, not stating her actual feelings.
23rd Jul '16 12:43:54 PM nombretomado
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%%* ''Series/PersonOfInterest'' features copious amounts of DirtyBusiness, both in the past and present. Reese was a black-on-black ops specialist for the government, Finch built the closest thing to BigBrother, and Fusco was a DirtyCop who has apparently dumped bodies in the past. A big theme has been their struggle with how this has affected them and how helping the Persons of Interest has slightly redeemed them.

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%%* ''Series/PersonOfInterest'' features copious amounts of DirtyBusiness, both in the past and present. Reese was a black-on-black ops specialist for the government, Finch built the closest thing to BigBrother, a ShadowDictator, and Fusco was a DirtyCop who has apparently dumped bodies in the past. A big theme has been their struggle with how this has affected them and how helping the Persons of Interest has slightly redeemed them.
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