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25th May '17 10:26:40 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ''{{Series/Dollhouse}}'': Laurence Dominic. In episode 5, he tries to kill Echo. In episode 9, [[spoiler:he is revealed to be the mole. Note that at the time of the episode's airing, the [[WMG/{{Dollhouse}} Dollhouse WMG page]] had [[strike:eight different guesses]] eight guesses as to the identity of the mole, only one of which was a repeat, and yet no one had bothered to guess that it was Dominic. Because we're too GenreSavvy to fall for such an ''obvious'' RedHerring...yeah]]. And then it turns out he wasn't so much a "devil;" he saw himself as protecting the Dollhouse AND protecting the world from the technology it used. His negative convictions turned out to be right. Nobody important in the House figured that out until too late.

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* ''{{Series/Dollhouse}}'': Laurence Dominic. In episode 5, he tries to kill Echo. In episode 9, [[spoiler:he is revealed to be the mole. Note that at the time of the episode's airing, the [[WMG/{{Dollhouse}} Dollhouse WMG page]] had [[strike:eight different guesses]] eight guesses as to the identity of the mole, only one of which was a repeat, and yet no one had bothered to guess that it was Dominic. Because we're too GenreSavvy to we won't fall for such an ''obvious'' RedHerring...yeah]]. And then it turns out he wasn't so much a "devil;" he saw himself as protecting the Dollhouse AND protecting the world from the technology it used. His negative convictions turned out to be right. Nobody important in the House figured that out until too late.



** Also ironically, [[GenreSavvy attentive]] fans will spot him the moment they see his face. (See that mysterious [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiI blonde]] [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII man]]/[[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne old man/little boy]]/[[VideoGame/RaidouKuzunohaVsKingAbaddon scholar]]/[[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney young woman]]?) On a more meta-note, the [[OncePerEpisode designated]] Chaos Heroes will usually have [[{{Jerkass}} surly attitudes]] and [[CoolPeopleRebelAgainstAuthority hate on The Man]] while Law Heroes are often [[NiceGuy polite]] and [[LawfulGood kind]] ([[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope at first]]). [[VideoGame/DevilSurvivor2 Note that exceptions do occur]]...

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** Also ironically, [[GenreSavvy attentive]] attentive fans will spot him the moment they see his face. (See that mysterious [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiI blonde]] [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII man]]/[[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne old man/little boy]]/[[VideoGame/RaidouKuzunohaVsKingAbaddon scholar]]/[[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney young woman]]?) On a more meta-note, the [[OncePerEpisode designated]] Chaos Heroes will usually have [[{{Jerkass}} surly attitudes]] and [[CoolPeopleRebelAgainstAuthority hate on The Man]] while Law Heroes are often [[NiceGuy polite]] and [[LawfulGood kind]] ([[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope at first]]). [[VideoGame/DevilSurvivor2 Note that exceptions do occur]]...



* On ''WesternAnimation/TotalDrama,'' [[AlphaBitch Heather]] in the first season; most of the characters actually figure this out pretty quickly, but [[ContractualGenreBlindness somehow keep falling for her schemes anyway]]. Season three's [[VillainSue Alejandro]] is a more JustForFun/{{egregious}} example--he lasts until nearly the end of the season before Cody and Sierra, the last "good" contestants, figure him out, while everyone else (save Heather, [[GenreSavvy Noah]] and [[JerkAss Duncan]]) somehow ignore the fact that [[LoveMakesYouDumb every girl he hits on (at least one of whom was spoken for) would be immediately eliminated]], or question how he had [[KeepingSecretsSucks Tyler]] reveal [[YourCheatingHeart Duncan and Gwen's affair]] in order to win a challenge. Then there's Scott in season 4 who sabotages his own team and blames others. He is found out, but most of the time they're the ones he eliminates.

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* On ''WesternAnimation/TotalDrama,'' [[AlphaBitch Heather]] in the first season; most of the characters actually figure this out pretty quickly, but [[ContractualGenreBlindness somehow keep falling for her schemes anyway]]. Season three's [[VillainSue Alejandro]] Alejandro is a more JustForFun/{{egregious}} example--he lasts until nearly the end of the season before Cody and Sierra, the last "good" contestants, figure him out, while everyone else (save Heather, [[GenreSavvy Noah]] Noah and [[JerkAss Duncan]]) somehow ignore the fact that [[LoveMakesYouDumb every girl he hits on (at least one of whom was spoken for) would be immediately eliminated]], or question how he had [[KeepingSecretsSucks Tyler]] reveal [[YourCheatingHeart Duncan and Gwen's affair]] in order to win a challenge. Then there's Scott in season 4 who sabotages his own team and blames others. He is found out, but most of the time they're the ones he eliminates.
25th May '17 3:34:58 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Littlefinger is obviously (and openly) up to no good, but people rely on him anyway. George Martin has noted this as perhaps the biggest adaptational change since in the books Littlefinger is much more affable, subtle about his desires, and a VillainWithGoodPublicity to everyone except Tyrion (and even Tyrion can't put his finger on Littlefinger's goal).

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
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Littlefinger is obviously (and openly) up to no good, but people rely on him anyway. George Martin has noted this as perhaps the biggest adaptational change since in the books Littlefinger is much more affable, subtle about his desires, and a VillainWithGoodPublicity to everyone except Tyrion (and even Tyrion can't put his finger on Littlefinger's goal).goal).
** Among the Northern lords, Roose Bolton sticks out like a sore thumb. While every other Northern lord has a beard, he is almost clean-shaven (before Season 4, anyway). They have rough Northern English accents, he has a vague upper-class Irish accent. They are brash and in-your-face, he is cold and subtle. They suggest a quick death, he suggests flaying people alive for information. The man's sigil is a flayed man and he shows absolutely zero emotion or sympathy while giving Robb nightmarish news.
27th Apr '17 6:24:21 AM Lheticus
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** [[JustForPun Love makes you stupid, Evil?]]
23rd Apr '17 7:42:51 PM Mdumas43073
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23rd Apr '17 7:38:09 PM Mdumas43073
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* The '80s sitcom ''It's Your Move'' featured Jason Bateman as a manipulative [[HighSchoolHustler teenaged con artist]] whose single mom was (initially, at least) blissfully unaware of his intrigues. The first dozen or so episodes dealt with his efforts to prevent the mother's equally devious boyfriend from exposing him. When she finally got wise to him, the show's whole comedic premise was effectively {{retool}}ed (and, arguably, ruined).

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* The '80s sitcom ''It's Your Move'' featured Jason Bateman starred Creator/JasonBateman as a manipulative [[HighSchoolHustler teenaged con artist]] whose single mom was (initially, at least) blissfully unaware of his intrigues. The first dozen or so episodes dealt with his efforts to prevent the mother's equally devious boyfriend from exposing him. When she finally got wise to him, the show's whole comedic premise was effectively {{retool}}ed (and, arguably, ruined).
1st Apr '17 3:23:03 PM BlackGryphon101
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* Duke Roger in ''Literature/SongOfTheLioness''. He's quite charming, but Alanna thinks he's a little off and he has a habit of goading Jon to do dangerous things or engineer danger for him (like a plague or a UriahGambit) along with sending a couple of {{Animal Assassin}}s after Alanna... but everyone else adores him, including Jon. [[spoiler:We learn at the end of the second book that Roger has magically protected himself from suspicion.]]

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* Duke Roger in ''Literature/SongOfTheLioness''. He's quite charming, but Alanna thinks he's a little off and he has a habit of goading Jon to do dangerous things or engineer danger for him (like a plague or a UriahGambit) along with sending a couple of {{Animal Assassin}}s after Alanna... but everyone else adores him, including Jon. [[spoiler:We learn at the end of the second book that Roger has magically protected himself from suspicion.]]]] The loop hole to the spell is that it only worked on those he created simulacra of. People who were unknown to him like George and Thom were unaffected.
23rd Mar '17 12:34:57 PM erforce
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* The entire town in ''Film/LittleSweetheart'' isn't just holding the IdiotBall, they're firmly grasping the IdiotBall. John Hurt's character, Robert Burger, practically has idiot ball hot glue gunned to him. His mistress, Dorothea, on the other hand, can tell that [[BigBad Thelma]] is not sweet, innocent, kind or anything but evil.


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* The entire town in ''Film/LittleSweetheart'' isn't just holding the IdiotBall, they're firmly grasping the IdiotBall. John Hurt's character, Robert Burger, practically has idiot ball hot glue gunned to him. His mistress, Dorothea, on the other hand, can tell that [[BigBad Thelma]] is not sweet, innocent, kind or anything but evil.
23rd Mar '17 12:34:30 PM erforce
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** Snob is particularly irritated by ''Film/DrillerKiller'''s lack of subtlety with regard to who the slasher is.

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** Snob is particularly irritated by ''Film/DrillerKiller'''s ''Film/TheDrillerKiller'''s lack of subtlety with regard to who the slasher is.



-->'''Kendall:''' ''[innocently]'' But I don't know the killer!"
-->'''Snob:''' Sure you do! It's '''[[DeanBitterman THE DEAN!]]'''

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-->'''Kendall:''' --->'''Kendall:''' ''[innocently]'' But I don't know the killer!"
-->'''Snob:''' --->'''Snob:''' Sure you do! It's '''[[DeanBitterman THE DEAN!]]'''
23rd Mar '17 12:33:47 PM erforce
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* ''Film/BatmanReturns'': Max Shreck retains public respectability even after his mayoral candidate, Oswald Cobblepot (The Penguin) is exposed as a criminal.
-->''[in a JustBetweenYouAndMe moment at a holiday costume party]''
-->'''Bruce Wayne:''' You almost made a monster the mayor of Gotham City.
-->'''Max Shreck:''' [[IAmTheNoun I am the]] ''[[IAmTheNoun light]]'' [[IAmTheNoun of this city]], and I am its mean, twisted soul. [[TheManBehindTheMan Does it really matter who's mayor?]]
** In the 1989 film, everyone in Gotham ''knows'' that Carl Grissom is the city's most notorious gangster, but District Attorney Harvey Dent just can't gather enough evidence to put him away. Ironically enough, ComicBook/TheJoker [[BadGuysDoTheDirtyWork takes care of that little problem]].

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* ''Film/BatmanReturns'': Max Shreck retains public respectability even after his mayoral candidate, Oswald Cobblepot (The Penguin) is exposed as a criminal.
-->''[in a JustBetweenYouAndMe moment at a holiday costume party]''
-->'''Bruce Wayne:''' You almost made a monster the mayor of Gotham City.
-->'''Max Shreck:''' [[IAmTheNoun I am the]] ''[[IAmTheNoun light]]'' [[IAmTheNoun of this city]], and I am its mean, twisted soul. [[TheManBehindTheMan Does it really matter who's mayor?]]
''Franchise/{{Batman}}''
** In the 1989 film, ''Film/{{Batman}}'' (1989), everyone in Gotham ''knows'' that Carl Grissom is the city's most notorious gangster, but District Attorney Harvey Dent just can't gather enough evidence to put him away. Ironically enough, ComicBook/TheJoker [[BadGuysDoTheDirtyWork takes care of that little problem]].



* ''Film/HarryPotter'': Tom Riddle comes across as completely creepy and obviously sinister in both ''Film/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets'' and ''Film/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince'', but he's completely trusted and well-liked by the teachers, especially by Slughorn. His creepiness in the films contrasts with the books, where he's stated and shown to be very charming as a young man and very good at presenting himself well.

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** Max Shreck in ''Film/BatmanReturns'' retains public respectability even after his mayoral candidate, Oswald Cobblepot (The Penguin) is exposed as a criminal.
--->''[in a JustBetweenYouAndMe moment at a holiday costume party]''
--->'''Bruce Wayne:''' You almost made a monster the mayor of Gotham City.
--->'''Max Shreck:''' [[IAmTheNoun I am the]] ''[[IAmTheNoun light]]'' [[IAmTheNoun of this city]], and I am its mean, twisted soul. [[TheManBehindTheMan Does it really matter who's mayor?]]
* ''Film/HarryPotter'': Tom Riddle comes across as completely creepy and obviously sinister in both ''Film/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets'' and ''Film/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince'', but he's completely trusted and well-liked by the teachers, especially by Slughorn. His creepiness in the films contrasts with the books, where he's stated and shown to be very charming as a young man and very good at presenting himself well.



* ''Literature/{{Redwall}}'': Reversed with Veil Sixclaw. Everyone except his foster-mother Bryony realises that he's a delinquent and guess that it was him when an Abbeydweller is nearly killed. Ironically, it's heavily implied that if they'd treated him as if he was normal, he'd have grown up okay. But then they ''are'' [[CarnivoreConfusion mice trying to raise a ferret]].

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* ''Literature/{{Redwall}}'': ''[[Literature/{{Redwall}} Outcast of Redwall]]'': Reversed with Veil Sixclaw. Everyone except his foster-mother Bryony realises that he's a delinquent and guess that it was him when an Abbeydweller is nearly killed. Ironically, it's heavily implied that if they'd treated him as if he was normal, he'd have grown up okay. But then they ''are'' [[CarnivoreConfusion mice trying to raise a ferret]].



* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': How anyone in Westeros could ever find it in themselves to trust Roose Bolton, lord of the [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Dreadfort]], is, frankly, shocking. The man's sigil is a flayed man because he comes from a family with a long-standing tradition of skinning their enemies alive and wearing their skins in battle; he always speaks in a CreepyMonotone, is a PaleSkinnedBrunette with godsdamned CreepyBlueEyes ''and'' his favorite pastime is getting leeched. Granted, everyone finds him a little unsettling but still, he's relied upon to perform extremely important roles several times. [[spoiler:Trusting him never, ever turns out well.]]

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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire''
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How anyone in Westeros could ever find it in themselves to trust Roose Bolton, lord of the [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Dreadfort]], is, frankly, shocking. The man's sigil is a flayed man because he comes from a family with a long-standing tradition of skinning their enemies alive and wearing their skins in battle; he always speaks in a CreepyMonotone, is a PaleSkinnedBrunette with godsdamned CreepyBlueEyes ''and'' his favorite pastime is getting leeched. Granted, everyone finds him a little unsettling but still, he's relied upon to perform extremely important roles several times. [[spoiler:Trusting him never, ever turns out well.]]



* ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'': Teyrn Loghain was painfully obvious, though everyone trusts him because he placed the blame on the Grey Wardens and was also a national hero for freeing the kingdom from decades of foreign occupation. The former can also be said of Arl Howe.
** Arl Howe was voiced by Creator/TimCurry. Other than being voiced by Curry, though, you probably wouldn't be expecting him to be a bad guy. At first.

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* ''Franchise/DragonAge''
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''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'': Teyrn Loghain was painfully obvious, though everyone trusts him because he placed the blame on the Grey Wardens and was also a national hero for freeing the kingdom from decades of foreign occupation. The former can also be said of Arl Howe.
** *** Arl Howe was voiced by Creator/TimCurry. Other than being voiced by Curry, though, you probably wouldn't be expecting him to be a bad guy. At first.



** Also Bartrand. Listening to him, you wonder why anyone works for him, why Varric hasn't abandoned him, and why Hawke and the rest of the group don't just shoot him on sight. [[spoiler:It would have saved them a lot of trouble.]]
* ''Franchise/MassEffect'' gives us more than a few examples. Of note is The Illusive Man, who is [[PlayerCharacter Commander Shepard's]] boss in the second game, and ends up as one of the villains of the third game. It helps that his organization, Cerberus, was openly villainous in the first game. The only reason Shepard is working for him in the second game is that [[EnemyMine the Reapers are a much bigger threat to both of them.]]

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** *** Also Bartrand. Listening to him, you wonder why anyone works for him, why Varric hasn't abandoned him, and why Hawke and the rest of the group don't just shoot him on sight. [[spoiler:It would have saved them a lot of trouble.]]
* ''Franchise/MassEffect'' gives us more than a few examples.
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Of note is The Illusive Man, who is [[PlayerCharacter Commander Shepard's]] boss in the [[VideoGame/MassEffect2 second game, game]], and ends up as one of the villains of the [[VideoGame/MassEffect3 third game.game]]. It helps that his organization, Cerberus, was openly villainous in the first game. The only reason Shepard is working for him in the second game is that [[EnemyMine the Reapers are a much bigger threat to both of them.]]



* The third line of dialogue from [[EvilChancellor Chancellor Cole]] in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSpiritTracks Zelda Spirit Tracks]]'' includes an ominous prediction while he stares at you with an insane evil smile. If you are still surprised when he shows himself as the BigBad of the game five minutes later, you should start getting worried.

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* ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda''
** ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'' gives us Ganondorf. Despite the various red flags this guy gives off (has a constant smug grin, spiky armor, is the ''King of Thieves'') the King of Hyrule places all his trust in this guy...which will lead to Hyrule's downfall and Ganondorf's ascension to power as the [[CardCarryingVillain Great King of Evil]].
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The third line of dialogue from [[EvilChancellor Chancellor Cole]] in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSpiritTracks Zelda Spirit Tracks]]'' includes an ominous prediction while he stares at you with an insane evil smile. If you are still surprised when he shows himself as the BigBad of the game five minutes later, you should start getting worried.



* ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime'' gives us Ganondorf. Despite the various red flags this guy gives off (has a constant smug grin, spiky armor, is the ''King of Thieves'') the King of Hyrule places all his trust in this guy...which will lead to Hyrule's downfall and Ganondorf's ascension to power as the [[CardCarryingVillain Great King of Evil]].



* WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob is particularly irritated by ''Driller Killer'''s lack of subtlety with regard to who the slasher is.
** A RunningGag in the ''Pieces'' review.

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* WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob ''WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob''
** Snob
is particularly irritated by ''Driller Killer'''s ''Film/DrillerKiller'''s lack of subtlety with regard to who the slasher is.
** A RunningGag in the ''Pieces'' ''Film/{{Pieces}}'' review.
16th Mar '17 1:04:24 PM morenohijazo
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* ''ComicBook/{{Iznogoud}}'': Comically inverted; Iznogoud looks, acts and ''is'' evil, he actually possesses almost all the defects required to be a villain, and the people of Baghdad are perfectly aware of his desire to overthrow the Caliph... but the Caliph himself never suspects a thing, instead seeing Iznogoud as a devoted, good, trustworthy friend. He even once admitted he often received anonymous letters trying to warn him about it, but never believed them. Ironically, the Caliph is the only person Iznogoud bothers acting good with.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Iznogoud}}'': Comically inverted; Iznogoud looks, acts and ''is'' evil, he actually possesses almost all the defects required to be a villain, IS definitely ObviouslyEvil, and the people of Baghdad are perfectly aware of his desire to overthrow the Caliph... but the Caliph himself never suspects a thing, instead seeing Iznogoud as a devoted, good, trustworthy friend. He even once admitted he often received anonymous letters trying to warn him about it, but never believed them. Ironically, the Caliph is the only person Iznogoud bothers acting good with.
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